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Pilot Falls Ill On AA 777 Flight

Fri Sep 30, 2011 8:07 pm

It looks like a 777 made an unscheduled stop at a place they normally don't fly to: BNA. The Tennessean newspaper is reporting that one of the pilots fell ill and the flight (#2050, Chicago to Miami) was diverted to Nashville. The pilot has been taken to the hospital in stable condition. The plane is schedule to leave again about 3 PM CT but was waiting for a relief pilot to be flown in.

http://www.tennessean.com/article/20...dyssey=mod|breaking|text|FRONTPAGE
 
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RE: Pilot Falls Ill On AA 777 Flight

Fri Sep 30, 2011 9:07 pm

They were not messing around. They stayed out on the runway and he stopped pretty short from his touchdown point. Guess they wanted the medics on-board pretty quick.
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RE: Pilot Falls Ill On AA 777 Flight

Fri Sep 30, 2011 9:13 pm

He didn't have the Fish... did he? 

Seriously, hope its nothing life threatening.
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RE: Pilot Falls Ill On AA 777 Flight

Fri Sep 30, 2011 9:25 pm

Apparently it was a double medical emergency. A female passenger also made the trip to the same hospital.

Regardless, it's a pretty big passenger plane to visit BNA. Usually the only widebodies we see these days are 767's that are NFL charter flights. Otherwise its pretty much a MD-88/DC-9/737/A320 destination for larger jets.

[Edited 2011-09-30 14:29:36]
 
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RE: Pilot Falls Ill On AA 777 Flight

Fri Sep 30, 2011 11:31 pm

Quoting EMBQA (Reply 1):
They stayed out on the runway and he stopped pretty short from his touchdown point. Guess they wanted the medics on-board pretty quick.

FWIW, some of the media reports say that they couldn't get a gate, but AA widebody diversions here aren't all that uncommon (usually a gas and go for DFW weather). I suspect you are correct.
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RE: Pilot Falls Ill On AA 777 Flight

Fri Sep 30, 2011 11:59 pm

Quoting mffoda (Reply 2):
He didn't have the Fish... did he?

Haha, that's the first thing that crossed my mind when I read the thread title. Time to inflate the autopilot...
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RE: Pilot Falls Ill On AA 777 Flight

Sat Oct 01, 2011 3:50 am

Quoting FSDan (Reply 5):
Time to inflate the autopilot...

It's a different kind of flying, altogether...
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RE: Pilot Falls Ill On AA 777 Flight

Sat Oct 01, 2011 4:08 am

What is the procedure in a situation like this? Like, if one of the pilots is totally incapacitated, that seems like a huge workload for one pilot to get the plane down by himself, especially reading checklists, handling radios, and flying the plane.

[Edited 2011-09-30 21:08:44]
 
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RE: Pilot Falls Ill On AA 777 Flight

Sat Oct 01, 2011 4:25 am

Quoting FSDan (Reply 5):
Haha, that's the first thing that crossed my mind when I read the thread title. Time to inflate the autopilot...

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RE: Pilot Falls Ill On AA 777 Flight

Sat Oct 01, 2011 4:39 am

The captain freaked out that AA might mess with his B fund before he had the chance to retire early. A/c was N777AN.

Quoting NathanH (Reply 7):
What is the procedure in a situation like this? Like, if one of the pilots is totally incapacitated, that seems like a huge workload for one pilot to get the plane down by himself, especially reading checklists, handling radios, and flying the plane.

Flight attendants help all the time.
 
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RE: Pilot Falls Ill On AA 777 Flight

Sat Oct 01, 2011 6:18 am

Quoting FSDan (Reply 5):
Time to inflate the autopilot...

You mean Otto?

Quoting cha747 (Reply 6):
It's a different kind of flying, altogether...

"It's and entirely different kind of flying."
"It's and entirely different kind of flying."

Did they need a translator who spoke Jive?

Quoting NathanH (Reply 7):
Like, if one of the pilots is totally incapacitated, that seems like a huge workload for one pilot to get the plane down by himself, especially reading checklists, handling radios, and flying the plane.

I wouldn't believe that on such a large plane going hub-to-hub that there wasn't a deadheading pilot of some kind that could assist, even if not type-rated. The flight attendants, while they can help, usually have their hands full in the cabin with wary passengers, right?
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RE: Pilot Falls Ill On AA 777 Flight

Sat Oct 01, 2011 6:42 am

Quoting NathanH (Reply 7):
What is the procedure in a situation like this? Like, if one of the pilots is totally incapacitated, that seems like a huge workload for one pilot to get the plane down by himself, especially reading checklists, handling radios, and flying the plane.

It is a big workload, however we are trained that in an event of a crew incapacitation, we can land the plane totally unaided. Once you declare an emergency with ATC and let them know of the situation, they can actually reduce a lot of your workload by giving you vectors to approaches and priority handling into the airport. It's tough, not something I would necessarily want to do, but if the situation demanded it, you better bet I would do it! I suspect in this case though, that there might have been either a deadheading or commuting pilot who could of helped. Also I remember their was a Continental plane that had a passenger who was a private pilot come and assist the first officer land the plane!
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RE: Pilot Falls Ill On AA 777 Flight

Sat Oct 01, 2011 7:21 am

Quoting NathanH (Reply 7):
What is the procedure in a situation like this? Like, if one of the pilots is totally incapacitated, that seems like a huge workload for one pilot to get the plane down by himself, especially reading checklists, handling radios, and flying the plane.

This made me think of a flight some twenty years ago:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/British_Airways_Flight_5390

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RE: Pilot Falls Ill On AA 777 Flight

Sat Oct 01, 2011 12:19 pm

Quoting NathanH (Reply 7):
What is the procedure in a situation like this? Like, if one of the pilots is totally incapacitated, that seems like a huge workload for one pilot to get the plane down by himself, especially reading checklists, handling radios, and flying the plane.

Had to do it on a CRJ200 proving flight from 36,000 feet over KMCI; on the ground in less than 15 minutes (VFR conditions). It is a little more stressful, but definitely manageable.

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RE: Pilot Falls Ill On AA 777 Flight

Sat Oct 01, 2011 12:47 pm

Quoting KBUF (Reply 8):
What is the procedure in a situation like this? Like, if one of the pilots is totally incapacitated, that seems like a huge workload for one pilot to get the plane down by himself, especially reading checklists, handling radios, and flying the plane.

ATC usually clears everything around you and you may choose to initiate emergency descent (i.e. as if the aircraft were experiencing technical difficulties), or so I've read in published cases. SR had such an emergency on one of its 747-357s sometime in the late 80s or early 90s, when the captain had a heart attack and collapsed unconscious. The co-pilot was able to land the plane in Helsinki.
 
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RE: Pilot Falls Ill On AA 777 Flight

Sat Oct 01, 2011 4:52 pm

Quoting NathanH (Reply 7):
What is the procedure in a situation like this? Like, if one of the pilots is totally incapacitated, that seems like a huge workload for one pilot to get the plane down by himself, especially reading checklists, handling radios, and flying the plane.

The fact that the airplane has a good autopilot goes a long ways. General aviation pilots fly IFR all the time single pilot, admittedly there are fewer cockpit procedures, but the instrumentation and autopilots usually aren't as good as the commercial airliners. If you want a big workload, the Fairchild Metroliner is a twin-engine turboprop that is certified for single pilot ops (as long as it is part 91 or 135) and many of them have no autopilot at all.
 
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RE: Pilot Falls Ill On AA 777 Flight

Sat Oct 01, 2011 4:54 pm

Thanks for all the answers! I didn't doubt that it could be done. I was just curious about the actual hows, and that has been greatly answered.
 
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RE: Pilot Falls Ill On AA 777 Flight

Sat Oct 01, 2011 4:58 pm

Quoting NathanH (Reply 7):
What is the procedure in a situation like this? Like, if one of the pilots is totally incapacitated, that seems like a huge workload for one pilot to get the plane down by himself, especially reading checklists, handling radios, and flying the plane.

On top of what was already mentioned ... we are also trained on some other "single pilot" worse case scenarios. Like:

A rapid decompression caused emergency descent where one of the pilots is incapacitated. Not all that far fetched if you think about it. One pilot must do both sides of the emergency descent drill.

Or ... my favourite ... (sarcasm)

One pilot becomes incapacitated during the takeoff roll, the other pilot notices it and rejects the takeoff (alone). During the reject you have an uncontrollable engine fire necessitating an evacuation. (I usually leave the dead F/O behind.   )
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