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Sun Oct 02, 2011 2:45 pm

Does the info from the link below seem representative of a typical day in the working life of a QF attendant? How does it compare with the routines of attendants from other carriers on medium/long haul routes - in terms of pre-flight briefings and post-flight 'activities'.

BTW to help you understand the Australian English, "Hungry Jacks" is the same as US "Burger King" and "lollies" are "candy/confectionery"

http://www.news.com.au/travel/the-se...ostie/story-e6frfqor-1226153505168
 
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Sun Oct 02, 2011 9:39 pm

It is a glamourised version of the job.
Also BTW QF A380 crew only fly to LAX and SIN with LHR crew only doing SIN....hardly "seeing the world".
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Sun Oct 02, 2011 9:57 pm

I agree with ZKpilot that this is a very positive spin to 'a day in the life' of crew. The earlier than usual check-in and briefing (compared to domestic) is right on. The vast majority US based crews have no more than 18 to 28 hours at the destination, even ULH, so you spend allot of your time recovering from the inbound leg and getting ready for the next one. Also, many carriers have a 12 hour no booze rule rather than the FAA mandated 8, so that cuts into the 'crew debriefing' activities.
 
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Mon Oct 03, 2011 12:14 am

It kind of reminds me of: http://www.eglobaltravelmedia.com.au...y-in-lift-prompt-ba-crackdown.html which reports "wild topless parties" at BA (albeit New Fleet).

The media love trivialising and glamourising the job, but in reality it isn't really like this all the time. My sister is an FA (with BA) and love-hates her job. Sometimes downroute you are having the most amazing experience and have to pinch yourself to make sure you aren't dreaming and are actually been paid for this; other times it is 4am, you've been flying for 10 hours and still 3 hours out from LHR, a baby has just thrown up on the floor and somebody else is screaming at you because their PTV won't work. You win some, you loose some...
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Mon Oct 03, 2011 12:19 am

Very rarely do crews have wild toga party layovers. Usually if its a layover with friends or people you have flown with, its usually, dinner a few drinks movies or tv shows bed wake up report to work.  
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Mon Oct 03, 2011 1:48 am

How long's this bird been flying? She certainly is giving pitch-side of it all. I would be far-too honest about it all. I love my job, but sometimes you can be having an awful trip, day, month. Conflicts with other crew, passengers, gate agents are all too-common. It being fun and exciting but as said above, you're really not seeing a hell of a whole lot, especially for US crew because where we're based dictates what part of the world, and how much of that part of the world you're likely to see. Luckily, out of SEA, we see a little bit of everything
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Mon Oct 03, 2011 11:53 am

My Mom taught several classes at a local university for people wanting to get into the nursing field, and she said a whole lot of them were flight attendents (this was back in the 80 and 90's, while not quite the golden era, the airlines were doing much better back then in ways). This article fails to mention picking up toe nail clippings, dirty diapers, beligerently drunk pax, passengers who think that by buying a deeply discounted Y ticket they are entitled to royal treatment and treat you like garbage. There are reasons why my Mom had a lot of FA's wanting to change careers.
On another note
"Crew don't go out as often as they did when the A380 first started flying the route, but tonight there is a good crowd of flight attendants and pilots because there is a birthday celebration.

"Sometimes you are so knackered you just go to bed," De Waard says."
The article is essentially saying that these nights of partying are relatively rare. Like many jobs there are amazing parts to it, me personally I would love to do a year or two stint as an FA, but I know there are a whole lot of downsides.
 
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Mon Oct 03, 2011 12:14 pm

Quoting ordjoe (Reply 6):
On another note
"Crew don't go out as often as they did when the A380 first started flying the route, but tonight there is a good crowd of flight attendants and pilots because there is a birthday celebration.

"Sometimes you are so knackered you just go to bed," De Waard says."
The article is essentially saying that these nights of partying are relatively rare. Like many jobs there are amazing parts to it, me personally I would love to do a year or two stint as an FA, but I know there are a whole lot of downsides.

This is true however I am sure that any non-aviation source would focus in on the 'late night partying by QF crew' section of the article.

On another point I am sure that QF selected the crewmember to be interviewed and had full control over what to edit. So therefore I doubt we would read about the IFE being unreliable, pax special meals not being onboard, pax having a row, etc.
(I'm not claiming this is a regular occurance on QF but they would want to brush it under the carpet)
 
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Mon Oct 03, 2011 8:26 pm

As former QFLink crew who has a number of family members and friends who are QF long haul crew I actually don't think this is too far off.

The article does neglect the safety and security aspect of the job and does not delve into the customer service aspect, it focuses entirely on the lifestyle, but I don't think it is trying to conceal this or suggest other wise.

QF crew are blessed compared with their US and Middle-Eastern counter parts. They do often get longer slips in ports due to the scheduling and work rules, do some of the old Nannas head out every night? Nope, some of the younger ones would head out a bit, just depends on personal preference, the port itself, time of slip, fatigue and local nightlife. I don't think this article portrays a lifestyle that is particularly extravagant, the girl goes out one night and then runs errands followed by some cool ones before and early night...

I think as an article that focus on the the lifestyle of a QF long-haul crew member this is pretty accurate for a good SIN trip with two days there.

As for US crew or others world wide I wouldn't have a clue.
 
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Tue Oct 04, 2011 3:41 am

Quoting smi0006 (Reply 8):
QF crew are blessed compared with their US and Middle-Eastern counter parts.

Not sure that's quite true with regards to the Middle-Eastern crews (though you're probably right regarding the American crews) -- I've got a friend who works for EK and absolutely loves it to pieces. They have an enormous range of destinations and have some incredible layovers (ie three days on tropical islands, there's a four day layover in some North African resort etc). So on the same points as what the article raises (being the lifestyle aspect) I'd say they're at least on par, if not a bit more blessed...
 
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Tue Oct 04, 2011 5:45 am

Quoting smi0006 (Reply 8):
As for US crew or others world wide I wouldn't have a clue.

Well, for us, where most of the junior FAs are stuck with domestic flying, where as the international long-hauls are typically more senior. FAs with less than 15-20 years seniority, see less international, unless you're a language speaker to a specific destination or they're on reserve. The high value trips goes to the higher seniority flight attendants, which are almost always the more desirable flying which the domestic narrow-body flying falls to the bottom because of the long duty days combined with the shorter nights. Huntsville AL isn't as sexy as Paris, Rome or Beijing and Sydney.
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Tue Oct 04, 2011 8:27 am

Quoting smi0006 (Reply 8):
The article does neglect the safety and security aspect of the job and does not delve into the customer service aspect, it focuses entirely on the lifestyle, but I don't think it is trying to conceal this or suggest other wise.

I agree. Focuses on the 'lifestyle' rather than the actual work/prep involved.

I too get my dry cleaning done on another continent...........
 
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Tue Oct 04, 2011 9:56 am

At BA we get 60hrs slip time in SIN. Don't the oz based A380 crew get less than 24hrs in SIN? And the LHR based crews slightly more (36hrs tops?). We stay at the same hotel as QF in SIN. The oz based crews nightly antics seem to pale against their LHR based counterparts. I never knew a group of people could be so excited in Singapore lol.

[Edited 2011-10-04 02:59:39]
 
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Wed Oct 05, 2011 6:34 am

Quoting bastew (Reply 12):

At BA we get 60hrs slip time in SIN. Don't the oz based A380 crew get less than 24hrs in SIN? And the LHR based crews slightly more (36hrs tops?). We stay at the same hotel as QF in SIN. The oz based crews nightly antics seem to pale against their LHR based counterparts. I never knew a group of people could be so excited in Singapore lol.

[Edited 2011-10-04 02:59:39]


Well if you look at flight times it's about 8 hours SYD. LHR is about 13. That's quite a bit more but the timing of the flights would be the reason why some LHR crew get 30 odd hours and some get 24 (morning/evening arrivals, evening departures for both).
Oz crew get a change of scene in LAX, LHR A380 goes just to SIN but they can go to HKG on a 744 (HKG/SIN same-same city states in Asia).
60 hours for BA must be nice.
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