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Sat Oct 08, 2011 9:59 am

Went to browse departedflights.com this morning and was saddened to find this message:

"From what I gather, few people have found this site of interest. I've heard very few responses or little if no feedback from anyone. So, I will, for now, discontinue this site. It is not worth my time or effort to keep up this site. For those of you who have written to me, I appreciate it. However, it is simply not worth the effort to continue on. I tried to create a site valuable to all, but it seems to be unappreciated. Again, thanks to those that actually took a few minutes to comment on it."

I know a lot of us resourced this great site often, and used it countless times to answer questions and settle "disputes". Hopefully the webmaster has a change of heart and restarts it. Maybe an A-net campaign and a few donations might change his mind?

Note: I am not the webmaster of the site, nor am I grubbing for money on the webmaster's behalf.

[Edited 2011-10-08 08:56:42 by srbmod]
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Sat Oct 08, 2011 10:12 am

Wow, it was certainly one I used, to research my recent thread regarding the SEA-PDX tag route. Without departed flights I would have not been as succesful. Sad to see it go, I get the webmasters frustrations, It's hard to feel unappreciated when it takes the amount of time and energy to maintain it. I know it was mentioned tons of times, on many threads on A.net as a source of reliable information. Thanks for the work that was done, allowing many of us a great source of info, too little too late I guess.
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Sat Oct 08, 2011 10:12 am

Oh no! I was just checking out that site this past Monday! Found it to be great!

 
 
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Sat Oct 08, 2011 12:53 pm

Used it quite a lot even in the last few days, i found it very useful. It is a pity he has decided to close it down. I should have printed off those OAG schedules off it when i had the chance.
 
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Sat Oct 08, 2011 1:22 pm

Sad to see it go, as it was a great site to browse.

It would have been nicer to see the Webmaster admit that he just can't afford to run the site anymore, rather than blame the lack of "appreciation", but whatever.
 
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Sat Oct 08, 2011 1:39 pm

I love(d) that website. I for one appreciated it.
 
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Sat Oct 08, 2011 2:36 pm

The shutdown of Departedflights.com is a great loss. As the OP noted, it has been a major resource for us at A.net. If the webmaster isn't getting enough support to keep it up, could Airliners.net adopt the site and keep it running as a section of our site, supported by this site's advertising and donations? Much as we have pages for aircraft information, etc.?

I had no idea that Departedflights.com wasn't getting enough support. I for one referenced it regularly.

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Sat Oct 08, 2011 2:36 pm

I was just on the site and still found it there, but there is something up, I can't access the main page.
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Sat Oct 08, 2011 2:47 pm

I used that site as a source for an aviation research paper. This is terrible news!

We really should do something about this as a community. This resource was too valuable to just let go away.  


EDIT:

Okay guys, I found a back door to accessing the pages of departedflights.com. I'm not sure how long this will work, but if you click this link:

http://tinyurl.com/5v6xdlb


You get all of Google's page results for the site, and all the links still work. So start saving the data! Maybe if we can get a good backup of all the information here, one of us with the resources to put up a site can create a new site to house the data. I have to leave my house for a while but if no one else begins to back up this data, I will do it myself and then figure out what to do with it later.

At the very least I could store all of this stuff on my computer for the time being and then try to figure out a new home for it at a later date.

[Edited 2011-10-08 07:55:49]
 
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Sat Oct 08, 2011 2:59 pm

That was a very good website! Hopefully he mibht change his mind after reading all the comments here.

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Sat Oct 08, 2011 3:12 pm

I just spent 2 hours on that site last Sunday. Darn! I hope he changes his mind. I guess I should have given a donation.
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Sat Oct 08, 2011 3:17 pm

I used this site often. When I was a little boy start-ups were all over the place, and I'd run to departedflights often as I randomly remembered a different name or airplane from my childhood to see what they were about.

Sad to see it go. I think it has a valuable place on the net for archiving aviation history.
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Sat Oct 08, 2011 3:41 pm

I checked this site almost daily. This is a tremendous loss to those of us that love aviation.
 
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Sat Oct 08, 2011 3:49 pm

This site was more than appreciated. It was frequented by a lot of people, there was just not a means or a forum to provide feedback. Was there even a comments area? It was sort of like how wikipedia works. BRING IT BACK!
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Sat Oct 08, 2011 3:53 pm

Wow, what a loss.. but I have to say it because it appears that nobody else will. My first reaction upon reading the WM's explanation was one of disgust. This is the internet, and our hobby represents an extremely small slice of it. We're smart, serious, and extremely detailed in our knowledge and interest of civil aviation. But what we have in quality, we lack in numbers.

What did the WM expect? Those of us who did enjoy DepartedFlights showed our support by visiting and using the site. As wonderful of a resource as it was, its not Google.. even if everyone in our niche community used it, it wouldn't be that many people.

So my advice to anyone building a website for our hobby.. keep your expectations low. Even if it's as useful as an RZjets, DepartedFlights, etc. its still not likely to get a wild amount of hits, despite its usefulness and appreciated status.
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Sat Oct 08, 2011 4:10 pm

Currently in the process of saving complete HTML copies of every page. this will take a few hours. some were down and I had to use a cached copy, but if there's anyone here who knows how to build a website and wants to begin the process of setting one up I can provide the source material. Let me know, otherwise I'll do it myself down the road.
 
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Sat Oct 08, 2011 4:35 pm

In addition to the Google cache, you can also get some of the fills here:
http://wayback.archive.org/web/*/http://www.departedflights.com

I can sympathize with the website owner, though... several years ago I ran a rather unique aviation website and almost never got any feedback, though I was aware the pages were viewed heavily and came to find out later the site was widely referenced. I did increasingly feel like I was talking into a vacuum, and I eventually lost interest in updating it, and later lost interest in the topic. Though instead of canceling it, I just folded it back in with my personal website elsewhere and discontinued the domain name.

If the owner of the site is still around, I'd suggest to him to put the files back up with some changes: add a small forum or blog type interface allowing comments so an upstream avenue of communication can be opened, and put up some Google Ads or a donation box (if there wasn't one already). Those are the things I would have done in hindsight. We all see a lot of websites every day and take them for granted, so if he doesn't get messages of thanks, there would at least be evidence that the site is being used and appreciated.
 
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Sat Oct 08, 2011 5:19 pm

Quoting poLOT (Reply 4):
It would have been nicer to see the Webmaster admit that he just can't afford to run the site anymore, rather than blame the lack of "appreciation", but whatever.

Hope the guy reads that comment-- he'll know he made the right move.
 
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Sat Oct 08, 2011 5:35 pm

Quoting timz (Reply 17):

Hope the guy reads that comment-- he'll know he made the right move.

Nobody shuts down a site because they feel its not being appreciated (how he wants to be appreciated is not entirely clear). Not update it and slowly let it die? Sure. But to immediately (attempt, as it seems he only closed the main page) to close it down suggests that financial pressure may be playing a greater role...
 
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Sat Oct 08, 2011 5:36 pm

For those who are saving the content of the site, how much hard drive space is it taking up? I have some web space and would be willing to host it if there isn't anyone who's in a better position to do so, and assuming that I have enough space. I'd save the contents myself except that I'm short on time at the moment.

In any event, I can understand why he's doing it, but it's still a shame...that site is a great resource, and I hope that someone's able to restore the information to a new website...
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Sat Oct 08, 2011 5:42 pm

As I recall the person behind departedflights.com was on A.net also as N702ML.

However its looks like the account was cancelled.
http://www.airliners.net/profile/n702ml

The site was indeed a neat little repository of historic information.
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Sat Oct 08, 2011 5:49 pm

Quoting Aloha717200 (Reply 15):
Currently in the process of saving complete HTML copies of every page. this will take a few hours.

While I don't have time to manage it, I can provide hosting for it free of charge.
 
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Sat Oct 08, 2011 6:08 pm

Quoting poLOT (Reply 18):
Nobody shuts down a site because they feel its not being appreciated

With razor-sharp insight you noodled out the real reason he dumped it-- it costs money and time. Too much money and time for the appreciation he got; if users sneer at his hope for appreciation, $1 a year would be too much.

Quoting poLOT (Reply 18):
(how he wants to be appreciated is not entirely clear)

It's clear enough. He probably did have unrealistic expectations, tho.
 
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Sat Oct 08, 2011 6:22 pm

Quoting timz (Reply 22):
It's clear enough. He probably did have unrealistic expectations, tho.

I don't think he ever made it clear how much he wanted to be appreciated though. While he asked for donations, there was never any warnings that he was on the verge of no longer being able to continue the site with revenue from the donations he did received and his own money, never really any calls to provide feedback. No forum/blog that people can post at. How was the average user suppose to know that he wanted people to write to him? If he was having major issues, why didn't he ask for help rather than trying to close it out of the blue?

You can't expect random people on the internet to provide appreciation out of the blue, you have to coax it out of them (like what he is doing now by shutting it down).
 
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Sat Oct 08, 2011 6:42 pm

Quoting DCA-ROCguy (Reply 6):
If the webmaster isn't getting enough support to keep it up, could Airliners.net adopt the site and keep it running as a section of our site, supported by this site's advertising and donations? Much as we have pages for aircraft information, etc.?

That's an interesting idea!
 
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Sat Oct 08, 2011 6:46 pm

Truly a loss of a great resource I hope some one else takes up the baton and preserves the site or make it even better.
 
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Sat Oct 08, 2011 6:57 pm

I would re-create the site for free and maintain it, no problem at all!!! So long as someone has all of the data it should just be time-consuming, not too difficult. This is right up my alley so if it can be done, I'm in  
 
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Sat Oct 08, 2011 7:20 pm

Quoting warden145 (Reply 19):
For those who are saving the content of the site, how much hard drive space is it taking up? I have some web space and would be willing to host it if there isn't anyone who's in a better position to do so, and assuming that I have enough space. I'd save the contents myself except that I'm short on time at the moment.

I've got quite a ways to go to finish saving the data. There are 56,000 hits related to the site and I have to sort through them, so this process could take a couple of days at the soonest...considering I have a job in real life to show up at as well.  

But I will let you guys know what the final tally is.

Quoting cleared2land (Reply 26):

I would re-create the site for free and maintain it, no problem at all!!! So long as someone has all of the data it should just be time-consuming, not too difficult. This is right up my alley so if it can be done, I'm in  

If you have the time to help create a new version of the site that would be wonderful! Perhaps you two could partner up or somesuch and the site can be resurrected that way. Less work for all involved. My main shortage is money and time. So if this guy didnt have the money or time to keep it running, I probably wouldn't either. But this site is and was far too valuable to just let be lost to history, so I want to do something to save it before the data is gone for good.

I'll keep you posted.
 
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Sat Oct 08, 2011 7:25 pm

deleted.....

filler filler filler

[Edited 2011-10-08 12:27:54]
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Sat Oct 08, 2011 7:41 pm

Well, if anyone has data from the site PM me for my email address. I would like to have a look at the content and see what it would take to get it back online.

Im dedicated to helping with this project. I went ahead and snagged the .net for this site already, just in case this does go forward   Who knows if we can get control of the .com TLD.

Let's make this happen!
 
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Sat Oct 08, 2011 7:47 pm

Quoting Aloha717200 (Reply 27):
I've got quite a ways to go to finish saving the data. There are 56,000 hits related to the site and I have to sort through them, so this process could take a couple of days at the soonest...considering I have a job in real life to show up at as well.

I guess you may already know about this, but the utility "wget" (info) is awesome for scraping websites and there's binaries for Windows too, not just Linux. Not sure how well it works with Google cache though.

In any case, thanks for saving this bit of history. I don't care too much about timetimes, but it was a great place to revisit the golden age of air travel.
 
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Sat Oct 08, 2011 7:49 pm

Quoting cleared2land (Reply 29):


Let's make this happen!

Count me in for donations once it's up and running. It's something a lot of us may have taken for granted (myself included) so I will gladly give up a few bucks a month to restore and hopefully grow the site. I'm sure quite a few of us have memorabilia we could contribute.

A friend of the WM emailed me via this site and is passing along our support to him, as he is a friend of the WM's. Hopefully we A-nutters can pull together and get this project a reality. We already have a few people above willing to donate time and resources to bring this incredible and GREATLY APPRECIATED website back. There really was nothing else of it's scope on the web, at least as North American airline history goes.

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Sat Oct 08, 2011 8:10 pm

It's back......

Check it out.
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Sat Oct 08, 2011 8:20 pm

i've started grabbing the data just in case
 
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Sat Oct 08, 2011 8:34 pm

Quoting PI767 (Reply 32):

It's back......

Check it out.

I was up to 138 megs of saved data.

I'm going to email the admin of the site to ask him what he's decided to do.
 
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Sat Oct 08, 2011 8:41 pm

Email sent. We'll see what he has to say.

If he needs help running the site or donations, are you guys interested in pitching in to help him keep it afloat?
 
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Sat Oct 08, 2011 8:45 pm

Quoting Aloha717200 (Reply 35):
Quoting Aloha717200 (Reply 35):

Email sent. We'll see what he has to say.

If he needs help running the site or donations, are you guys interested in pitching in to help him keep it afloat?

Absolutely. I would like to take this static HTML site and get it database driven!
 
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Sat Oct 08, 2011 8:51 pm

Quoting cleared2land (Reply 36):
Absolutely. I would like to take this static HTML site and get it database driven!

That would be fantastic to see. I've let him know that some are interested in helping to run the site. No reply so far.
 
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Sat Oct 08, 2011 8:55 pm

Quoting cleared2land (Reply 33):

i've started grabbing the data just in case

Hey, what do have saved so far? I've got the main page, hub pages, and working on the route maps right now.
 
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Sat Oct 08, 2011 8:59 pm

nearly all of it! Im at about 90 percent
 
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Sat Oct 08, 2011 9:02 pm

Sounds good!


The admin just posted this on the main page:

A message to the aviation fans of departedflights.com

Last night, I made the decision to close this website. This website takes a considerable amount of time and effort to maintain and add new information.

It truly seemed to me that it was a waste of time to continue working on the site as the amount of feedback I received regarding the site has been virtually non-existant. I truly felt as though no one actually used or appreciated the site.

A friend of mine contacted me today to inform me that my decision had stirred up quite the discussion on a popular aviation forum and his words convinced me that I should reconsider my decision.

The site is back up and will continue to grow. Those of you who have been trying to save all of the data can relax.

Thank you to those of you who posted positive things regarding the site today and thank you to the few people over the years who have taken the time to email me.

And now.... back to departedflights.com



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I suggest we continue to hang onto the data regardless. If he considered shutting it down once before, he may again, and this data should be archived for that possible eventuality.
 
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Sat Oct 08, 2011 9:15 pm

Quoting cleared2land (Reply 36):
I would like to take this static HTML site and get it database driven!

To the person in contact with the webmaster of departedflights.com:

It may be that he can drastically reduce the amount of work it takes to input all that data by converting it to a database driven site. That way, he could simply enter each line of data into a web form and then click "save" and that would go into the database.

It also makes it much easier (and expands the usefulness of the site) to pull data based on user queries, i.e. "Show me all EWR flights for October 1974").

I would suggest that the site owner contact his local college or university and outline the following requirements and perhaps the Computer Science department could assign this "project" to one of the students as some kind of graduate project of some sort.

Database: MySQL
Front and Back End: ASP.NET (VB or C#)

Requires admin data entry form with fields for Airline, Flight #, Departure Airport, Arrival Airport, Departure Time, Arrival Time, Meal, Equipment, DaysOfWeek, OAG Date

Requires admin ability to search and modify/delete a specific record (perhaps based on Airline/Flight#/Originating Airport/OAG Date

Requires user ability to put in specific parameters (perhaps Airport, OAG Date) and system to then display all records, grouped / sorted by destination airport.

Just some initial thoughts...
 
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Sat Oct 08, 2011 9:20 pm

Quoting N62NA (Reply 41):

As soon as I have all of the data I am going to see if there is commonality between all of the HTMl files. If so, I can write a script to grab the relevant text and get it into a format so I can import into a database. From that point it will be easy to start writing some queries  
 
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Sat Oct 08, 2011 9:21 pm

I've been in contact with the webmaster, here's a bit of what he had to say:

Quote:
It is certainly my pleasure to provide the site. As I said, I just didn't think anyone ever looked at it on a regular basis other than a few people. I know the counter shows a lot of hits, but I just assumed those were one-time hits as a result of links from anet.

I didn't mean to cause a scare today. I apologize for that.

And in regards to converting the site over to a database driven format:


Quote:
Let me think about the other offer.... I have been doing the site the "old" way for so long, I am not sure if I am ready to change how I add the information.

Would it be difficult to change it over?
 
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Sat Oct 08, 2011 9:31 pm

14,877 items over 2.98 gigs. I have the whole site. We'll see where it goes from here.
 
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Sat Oct 08, 2011 9:32 pm

Quoting Aloha717200 (Reply 43):
And in regards to converting the site over to a database driven format:


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Let me think about the other offer.... I have been doing the site the "old" way for so long, I am not sure if I am ready to change how I add the information.

Would it be difficult to change it over?

No, it would not be difficult at all. He wouldn't have to retype any information that he already has in the "old" format. It's very basic "computing 101" to take what he has and get that into a database.

The project I outlined is also a very basic, simple, database kind of project. Perfect for a student project (and at no charge whatsoever!).
 
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Sat Oct 08, 2011 9:36 pm

Someone needs to tell the owner of the site these points:

1. Database driven site will be easier and sometimes cheaper to operate than a flat-file site.

2. User experience will be enhanced

3. The site could nearly run and maintain itself  

4. The current site is made up of over 8400 HTML files! It can definitely be made more efficient. With a template-based database-driven site that number could be reduced to a number that you could count on two hands.
 
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Sat Oct 08, 2011 9:39 pm

Quoting N62NA (Reply 45):
No, it would not be difficult at all. He wouldn't have to retype any information that he already has in the "old" format. It's very basic "computing 101" to take what he has and get that into a database.

The project I outlined is also a very basic, simple, database kind of project. Perfect for a student project (and at no charge whatsoever!).

I agree.

I have done several conversions like what we are talking about. Usually some fairly basic scripting and we could have spider the current site, extract the data, and directly inject in into a database. From that point some basic queries and templates and we have a new look for departed flights.com  
 
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Sat Oct 08, 2011 9:45 pm

Quoting N62NA (Reply 45):
No, it would not be difficult at all. He wouldn't have to retype any information that he already has in the "old" format. It's very basic "computing 101" to take what he has and get that into a database.

The project I outlined is also a very basic, simple, database kind of project. Perfect for a student project (and at no charge whatsoever!).
Quoting cleared2land (Reply 46):
Someone needs to tell the owner of the site these points:

1. Database driven site will be easier and sometimes cheaper to operate than a flat-file site.

2. User experience will be enhanced

3. The site could nearly run and maintain itself  

4. The current site is made up of over 8400 HTML files! It can definitely be made more efficient. With a template-based database-driven site that number could be reduced to a number that you could count on two hands.

Sadly, I have to head to work. Since he's online at the moment, how about you guys email him and just mention you're the guys from a.net that want to help out, and then just tell him what you mentioned here.

This is his email: departing1983@yahoo.com

Just shoot him emails and see if it's something he'd like to do. Worse he can do is say no, and at best it might make his site easier to maintain! He seems like a nice guy.  Smile

[Edited 2011-10-08 14:46:22]
 
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RE: Departedflights.com No More

Sat Oct 08, 2011 9:47 pm

Quoting Aloha717200 (Reply 48):

Right on. All we can do is offer. In the least we can help him with the cost or workload.

Thanks!