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Turkmenistan Airlines Orders 2 777LRs

Sat Oct 08, 2011 7:28 pm

The article is dated 8 Oct 11.

Turkmenistan to purchase 2 Boeing 777LR aircraft.

http://www.menafn.com/qn_news_story....b49e9-c790-4f05-8b87-0469d328ddc5}

Although nothing is showing on Boeing's site yet... Good news for the 777 program!  

Might break the record this year....
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Turkmenistan Airlines Orders 2 777LRs

Sat Oct 08, 2011 8:38 pm

I'm guessing these are going to be VIP jets?
 
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Turkmenistan Airlines Orders 2 777LRs

Sat Oct 08, 2011 8:41 pm

I hope these aren't more VIP aircraft.  
Turkmenistan already has a VIP 77L as well as a 763, 737 and a BAe 125. (A bit excessive to say the least)

Anyway congratulations to Boeing, the 77L is a fine looking jet.

None of T5's current routes require anywhere near this aircraft's range (Longest is ASB-BHX, 2620nm) so it will be interesting to see what they do with them.
 
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Turkmenistan Airlines Orders 2 777LRs

Sat Oct 08, 2011 8:43 pm

Quoting faddypainter (Reply 2):
None of T5's current routes require anywhere near this aircraft's range (Longest is ASB-BHX, 2620nm) so it will be interesting to see what they do with them.

Maybe they want to make ASB the new DXB?

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Turkmenistan Airlines Orders 2 777LRs

Sat Oct 08, 2011 9:05 pm

More dictator´s toys. Wonder if they will ever be delivered.
 
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Turkmenistan Airlines Orders 2 777LRs

Sat Oct 08, 2011 9:13 pm

Quoting na (Reply 4):
More dictator´s toys. Wonder if they will ever be delivered.

As long as the Turkmenistan government stays in power, and I haven't heard of any resistance against it, then I don't see why they wouldn't be delivered.

[Edited 2011-10-08 14:14:48]
 
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Turkmenistan Airlines Orders 2 777LRs

Sat Oct 08, 2011 9:18 pm

Quoting na (Reply 4):
More dictator´s toys. Wonder if they will ever be delivered.

Well they have taken delivery of 7 new Boeing's since 2007.
2 - 737-800's
4 - 737-700's
1 - 777LR last year

So, I would say it is very likely they would be delivered! Wouldn't you?
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RE: Turkmenistan Airlines Orders 2 777LRs

Sun Oct 09, 2011 2:26 am

It is interesting how the demand for new 77Ls seems to have almost completely dried up because most of the airlines that had planned 77Ls for their fleets have already received them. As of Sept 30 there was only one undelivered 77L (for Air Austral scheduled for delivery in April 2012). This order for T5, if confirmed, will triple the 77L backlog.
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RE: Turkmenistan Airlines Orders 2 777LRs

Sun Oct 09, 2011 3:20 am

Hopefully they can put a cheat-line or something on them this time.


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RE: Turkmenistan Airlines Orders 2 777LRs

Sun Oct 09, 2011 5:27 am

Quoting mffoda (Thread starter):
Good news for the 777 program!

Might break the record this year....

Indeed, and I sincerely hope se. The 777 has had a stellar run this year, helped in no small part by the A350 delays. Can't be long now before the 777 overtakes the 747 as the most successful widebody jet  
Quoting faddypainter (Reply 2):
Anyway congratulations to Boeing, the 77L is a fine looking jet.

  

Quoting na (Reply 4):
More dictator´s toys. Wonder if they will ever be delivered.

 

Wonder if you'll be saying this if they had ordered the 748i instead ...  
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RE: Turkmenistan Airlines Orders 2 777LRs

Sun Oct 09, 2011 6:20 am

Quoting poLOT (Reply 1):
I'm guessing these are going to be VIP jets?

I doubt it; they already have one for VIP so it does not make sense to get two more.

Quoting simpilot459 (Reply 8):
Are they getting enough use out of their current one to justify two more?

The first one just entered service after a VIP interior installation. I don't think they really have had a chance to use it much.

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RE: Turkmenistan Airlines Orders 2 777LRs

Sun Oct 09, 2011 8:36 am

At least one of 772LR will be used for ASB-BKK route.
For years the airline used to be a cheaper alternative to fly from Moscow to Bangkok.
In this business they are in competition with Uzbekistan.
 
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RE: Turkmenistan Airlines Orders 2 777LRs

Sun Oct 09, 2011 12:57 pm

Quoting The777Man (Reply 10):

I doubt it; they already have one for VIP so it does not make sense to get two more.
Quoting pylon101 (Reply 11):
At least one of 772LR will be used for ASB-BKK route.

Could they actually fill a 777? Their largest aircraft used for commercial services is a 757. (Not that they actually care if it is filled or not)
 
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RE: Turkmenistan Airlines Orders 2 777LRs

Sun Oct 09, 2011 1:03 pm

Quoting poLOT (Reply 12):
Quoting pylon101 (Reply 11):
At least one of 772LR will be used for ASB-BKK route.

Could they actually fill a 777?

And even if they could why LR. A second-hand 77A would be fine for ASB-BKK.

Long-shot but JFK?
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RE: Turkmenistan Airlines Orders 2 777LRs

Sun Oct 09, 2011 7:01 pm

Quoting CXB77L (Reply 9):
The 777 has had a stellar run this year

Certainly not the most spectular livery I've seen on one   

  Congrats again to Boeing!  

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Sun Oct 09, 2011 7:02 pm

BHX-ASB-DEL anyone?

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RE: Turkmenistan Airlines Orders 2 777LRs

Sun Oct 09, 2011 9:51 pm

Quoting RyanairGuru (Reply 13):
Long-shot but JFK?

While it makes little commercial sense, a nonstop ASB-JFK route could be seen by T5 as adding much prestige to that airline as it would be the first Central Asia-North America nonstop.
 
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RE: Turkmenistan Airlines Orders 2 777LRs

Mon Oct 10, 2011 2:11 am

Quoting BNAOWB (Reply 16):
While it makes little commercial sense, a nonstop ASB-JFK route could be seen by T5 as adding much prestige to that airline as it would be the first Central Asia-North America nonstop.

That was my thinking. I'm sure there would be more than 50 people/day wanting to fly between the two, but similarly I'm not sure how relevant that would be!
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RE: Turkmenistan Airlines Orders 2 777LRs

Mon Oct 10, 2011 2:38 am

what about a daily ASB-CCS-ASB run... I am sure the 2 guys in power have an excelent relationship or? ....
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RE: Turkmenistan Airlines Orders 2 777LRs

Mon Oct 10, 2011 1:40 pm

Quoting RyanairGuru (Reply 13):
Long-shot but JFK?

I was going to say the same. Ashgabat makes a half decent transit point if headed for Central or South Asia. Probably another delusion of grandeur on the part of their leadership, yet, after seeing Turkish Airlines' success to the west and Etihad, Emirates and Qatar Airways to the south in connecting South Asia/Central Asia to Europe/North America, I'm sure in President Berdimuhamedow (there's a mouthful) 's mind there is nothing stopping Turkmenistan from becoming the Qatar of the Caspian.

As for delivery, I wouldn't worry, Turkmenistan's government is awash in cash, courtesy of ridiculous natural gas reserves.
 
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RE: Turkmenistan Airlines Orders 2 777LRs

Mon Oct 10, 2011 2:27 pm

Quoting BNAOWB (Reply 16):
While it makes little commercial sense, a nonstop ASB-JFK route could be seen by T5 as adding much prestige to that airline as it would be the first Central Asia-North America nonstop.

Didn't/doesn't Uzbekistan have an airline that served/serves JFK nonstop from Tashkent? If it did, but does not serve that route any longer, anyone know why? Poor yields?
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RE: Turkmenistan Airlines Orders 2 777LRs

Mon Oct 10, 2011 3:20 pm

Quoting Grid (Reply 20):
Didn't/doesn't Uzbekistan have an airline that served/serves JFK nonstop from Tashkent? If it did, but does not serve that route any longer, anyone know why? Poor yields?

Uzbekistan still serves JFK, but it flies via Riga, Latvia, and not nonstop to Tashkent.
 
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RE: Turkmenistan Airlines Orders 2 777LRs

Mon Oct 10, 2011 4:58 pm

Quoting poLOT (Reply 21):
Quoting Grid (Reply 20):
Didn't/doesn't Uzbekistan have an airline that served/serves JFK nonstop from Tashkent? If it did, but does not serve that route any longer, anyone know why? Poor yields?

Uzbekistan still serves JFK, but it flies via Riga, Latvia, and not nonstop to Tashkent.

I see. Was it ever nonstop?
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RE: Turkmenistan Airlines Orders 2 777LRs

Mon Oct 10, 2011 5:08 pm

Quoting Grid (Reply 22):
I see. Was it ever nonstop?

Looking at the fleet of HY, I don't think it is possible to fly non-stop to JFK
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RE: Turkmenistan Airlines Orders 2 777LRs

Mon Oct 10, 2011 7:23 pm

Quoting RyanairGuru (Reply 13):
And even if they could why LR. A second-hand 77A would be fine for ASB-BKK.

Why buy a second-hand oldie when you have the cash for a brand-new premium model?   I would probably do the same if I was in their position.

Quoting RyanairGuru (Reply 13):
Long-shot but JFK?

Was my first thought as well.
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RE: Turkmenistan Airlines Orders 2 777LRs

Mon Oct 10, 2011 7:42 pm

Congrats to Boeing but hopefully these will go to the civilian airline and not be configured as VIP transport, for a fleet of 3 77Ws does seem excessive. Maybe this will mark the ''emergence'' of Turkmenistan Airlines on some good, long distance routes, feeding in from DME and other countries in the CIS? Even so, I wonder how they would find demand to fill a 77W.
 
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RE: Turkmenistan Airlines Orders 2 777LRs

Mon Oct 10, 2011 11:13 pm

Quoting malioil (Reply 25):
Maybe this will mark the ''emergence'' of Turkmenistan Airlines on some good, long distance routes, feeding in from DME and other countries in the CIS?

I'd imagine so, and it would fit in with the ambitions of petro-dollar fueled expansion. Central Asia is has enormous potential (read: Gas and a little oil). If the Trans Caspian pipeline is built, Turkmenistan will make itself a small but important player in the European gas market (they will be able to bypass Russian to ship its gas to Europe, it'll give them more leverage in pricing).

Expanding Turkmenistan Airlines has some quite reasonable economic grounding. Creating a transit hub in Ashgabat creates jobs at home. After looking at the success in Dubai, Abu Dhabi and Qatar, I would not be surprised to see T5 turn into a ET type carrier for Central Asia. The Arab Spring was a wake up call to President Berdimuhamedow, who, after witnessing the fall of several of his dictator-buddies, realized that job creation - be it people working to dig holes then fill them back up, or to fly planes, they need to do more to create jobs.

That, or he just bought two more VIP aircraft for some of his cronies.

Quoting Grid (Reply 22):
I see. Was it ever nonstop?
Quoting Grid (Reply 20):
Didn't/doesn't Uzbekistan have an airline that served/serves JFK nonstop from Tashkent? If it did, but does not serve that route any longer, anyone know why? Poor yields?

It was never nonstop, but previously served via Kiev and Birmingham. They had local traffic rights on both KBP-JFK-KBP and BHX-JFK-BHX. IIRC they lost traffic rights on the Kiev-New York sector.

Flying via BHX allowed them to capture a (tiny mostly budget) share of the Birminham - New York market, as well as some of the Birmingham-India traffic.
 
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RE: Turkmenistan Airlines Orders 2 777LRs

Mon Oct 10, 2011 11:41 pm

Quoting elmothehobo (Reply 26):
It was never nonstop, but previously served via Kiev and Birmingham.

It was also flown via Belgrade a few years ago. A friend of mine took it regularly.

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