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Which Airlines Do You Think Will Come To LGW Next?

Mon Oct 10, 2011 1:00 am

This year we have had Air Asia, Vietnam, Lufthansa and now Korean who announced they will be coming to LGW. I was wondering if anyone knew or could take a guess in to who is likely to be next at Gatwick... Isn't Garuda considering coming back?

[Edited 2011-10-09 18:28:01]
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RE: Which Airlines Do You Think Will Come To LGW Next?

Mon Oct 10, 2011 8:29 am

Wasn't AR looking to add London? If they still are then I'd guess they would also consider LGW along with LHR. As Skyteam is the weakest of the three major alliances I can see AR considering LGW along with VN and KE. As you say, GA may also consider LGW as well although as a Skyteam member I can see them adding CDG first before London. With CDG and AMS they have the UK pretty much covered at a basic (non-metal kind of) level.
 
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RE: Which Airlines Do You Think Will Come To LGW Next?

Mon Oct 10, 2011 11:00 am

Avianca requested daily slots for LGW for this Winter, to operate the route LGW-BOG (arrival 1 pm, departure 3 pm) only to cancel them soon afterwards.
Even though they would prefer LHR, it is still likely that they might come to LGW. If so, it would most likely be in Q1 2012, as AV take delivery of their 8th A330 in January. Service is unlikely to start at daily, though.
 
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RE: Which Airlines Do You Think Will Come To LGW Next?

Mon Oct 10, 2011 5:22 pm

Hopefully not AA. Awful airline, staff and service. Would like to see UA or CO.
 
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RE: Which Airlines Do You Think Will Come To LGW Next?

Mon Oct 10, 2011 5:42 pm

Air India wouldn't be a bad one. They used to drop into LGW as often as possible in the 80s to avoid the higher fees of LHR.

I believe they are having a hard time right now so maybe this could be one cost saving measure.

Maybe they could re-paint their aircraft in the old livery too. Would be much better than their current livery, IMO.
and with that..cabin crew, seats for landing please.
 
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RE: Which Airlines Do You Think Will Come To LGW Next?

Mon Oct 10, 2011 6:42 pm

Wouldn't want Air India or PIA, or Bangladesh Biman for that matter! Glad Air Nigeria have postponed too.
 
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RE: Which Airlines Do You Think Will Come To LGW Next?

Mon Oct 10, 2011 9:55 pm

Well thanks for all your ideas and info.!   Lets all hope the best for LGW!
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RE: Which Airlines Do You Think Will Come To LGW Next?

Mon Oct 10, 2011 11:50 pm

Quoting jet72uk (Reply 5):
Wouldn't want Air India or PIA, or Bangladesh Biman for that matter! Glad Air Nigeria have postponed too.

Why wouldn;t you want them?
 
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RE: Which Airlines Do You Think Will Come To LGW Next?

Tue Oct 11, 2011 11:48 am

I'd like to see Vueling routes from BCN and MAD.
 
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RE: Which Airlines Do You Think Will Come To LGW Next?

Tue Oct 11, 2011 12:31 pm

That Hong Kong one in the premium config, operating from the north terminal
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RE: Which Airlines Do You Think Will Come To LGW Next?

Tue Oct 11, 2011 12:37 pm

Quoting jet72uk (Reply 5):

Wouldn't want Air India or PIA, or Bangladesh Biman for that matter! Glad Air Nigeria have postponed too.

Why single out those 3 carriers? It suggests rascist overtones with regard to that part of the world on your behalf.

Why would you not want Air India, PIA or Biman?

All operate modern B777 family fleets.

None have recent history for non-payment of fees.

So what's your issue with these three?

Just curious...

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RE: Which Airlines Do You Think Will Come To LGW Next?

Tue Oct 11, 2011 3:08 pm

Quoting jet72uk (Reply 5):
Wouldn't want Air India or PIA, or Bangladesh Biman for that matter! Glad Air Nigeria have postponed too.

Why not? As long as they pay what they owe, why shouldn't they serve the airport given the potential for VFR traffic for all four airlines in south east London?
 
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RE: Which Airlines Do You Think Will Come To LGW Next?

Tue Oct 11, 2011 4:38 pm

How likely is it that LHR will become oneworld only one day and that LGW will handle the rest?

Quoting mdavies06 (Reply 1):
As Skyteam is the weakest of the three major alliances

I assume you mean in London?
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RE: Which Airlines Do You Think Will Come To LGW Next?

Wed Oct 12, 2011 4:53 am

Quoting FlyingHollander (Reply 12):
I assume you mean in London?

Yes sorry I only meant LHR.
 
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RE: Which Airlines Do You Think Will Come To LGW Next?

Wed Oct 12, 2011 8:23 am

Not the greatest source, but Wikipedia has Afriqiyah as returning to London Gatwick at the end of October...
 
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RE: Which Airlines Do You Think Will Come To LGW Next?

Wed Oct 12, 2011 2:15 pm

Quoting bmibaby737 (Reply 16):
Not the greatest source, but Wikipedia has Afriqiyah as returning to London Gatwick at the end of October...

Wiki is most of the time right, I would like to see them return again.
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RE: Which Airlines Do You Think Will Come To LGW Next?

Wed Oct 12, 2011 2:28 pm

I would love to see this happening, it might merely be personal bias but I have always preferred LGW over LHR anyway and from a passenger perspective it is a much more pleasant experience then terminals 1,3 and 4 at LHR (T5 is admittedly very impressive though) - especially with all the recent investment in facilities. I have never completely understood how on earth the airlines don't see it that way and still insist that passengers want to fly to LHR.

Regarding the second runway though: I was under the impression that GIP had stated their intention was to continue operating and plan growth at Gatwick as a single runway facility for the medium to long term future.

[Edited 2011-10-17 08:25:55 by SA7700]
 
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RE: Which Airlines Do You Think Will Come To LGW Next?

Thu Oct 13, 2011 6:04 am

Likely 2 daily services by Hong Kong Airlines with all-premium configured A332.
 
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RE: Which Airlines Do You Think Will Come To LGW Next?

Mon Oct 17, 2011 12:54 pm

Turkish Airlines might start flights to LGW in 2011, when a/c available

http://www.turkishairlines.com/en-IN...vestor_relations/special/2011.aspx
 
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RE: Which Airlines Do You Think Will Come To LGW Next?

Tue Oct 18, 2011 8:40 am

I think LGW needs to place more emphasis on being an alternative to LHR, instead of an LCC hub. Comparable to EWR.

Gatwick has a lot to offer in terms of getting there:

- Although outside London, it has excellent road links. M23 and M25 nearby.

- The train links are excellent from Victoria and London Bridge as well as Thameslink trains from Bedford, St Pancras and Blackfriars. Also if you take a Southern Train, it will only take about 5-10 minutes longer and costs much less than the Gatwick Express (and Heathrow Express if we are comparing LHR).

I wonder if TG would ever considering starting a service to LGW for VFR traffic with maybe a LGW-HKT or LGW-BKK-HKT route using a 772. I guess there could be opportunities to tie up with Virgin Holidays on this as currently they use other airlines to Thailand.

This might sound a bit outlandish but is there any way Jetstar would consider starting up on the Kangaroo route... Maybe SYD/MEL - SIN/BKK - LGW. Definitely doable with an A330-200. Only problem here is that it may step on Qantas' shoes somewhat but with QF reducing capacity between the UK and OZ some of the VFR stuff could be replaced with Jetstar metal.

India could be a good market for LGW as well... I know that Jet Airways has its European base in Brussels but with the right persuasion, could be persuaded to move this to LGW. This would attracted a lot of local traffic due to the large Indian commuties in the London area and would then offer some direct routes through to New York at cheap prices!
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RE: Which Airlines Do You Think Will Come To LGW Next?

Tue Oct 18, 2011 11:48 am

Quoting FlyingHollander (Reply 12):
How likely is it that LHR will become oneworld only one day and that LGW will handle the rest?

Incredibly far fetched given that T4 was rebuilt for SkyTeam and T2 is being built exclusively for STAR. LGW and LHR are apples and pears.
 
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RE: Which Airlines Do You Think Will Come To LGW Next?

Tue Oct 18, 2011 12:40 pm

Quoting eljonno (Reply 16):
I have never completely understood how on earth the airlines don't see it that way and still insist that passengers want to fly to LHR.

I respect your preference, but there are many many people like me, who think LGW is the absolute hellhole airport in London. My favorite ranking is LCY, LTN, LHR, STN, LGW.
LGW has ultralong walking distances (well, depending on the gate, but how about proper walkways?), the facilities are ancient, and the queue at immigration was always horrbily long. LHR has the benefit of the much cheaper Picadilly line taking the same time (45min to central, same as from LGW, unless you explicity want to go to Victoria or London Bridge =30min).
LGW seriously needs to upgrade their airport facilities and customer experience to keep up with legacy airport standards. But I assume, thats what they are actually doing now. Otherwise, it will stay the secondary cost-cutting option.
 
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RE: Which Airlines Do You Think Will Come To LGW Next?

Tue Oct 18, 2011 12:54 pm

Quoting hal9213 (Reply 21):
LGW seriously needs to upgrade their airport facilities and customer experience to keep up with legacy airport standards. But I assume, thats what they are actually doing now. Otherwise, it will stay the secondary cost-cutting option.

The new owners have spent hundreds of millions of pounds so far upgrading facilities... So far:

- New immigration hall at South Terminal with innovative ticket control methods and many more lanes.
- New terminal expansion at North Terminal with a new check in area for British Airways and a new terminal facade.
- New signage throughout the airport.
- Refurbished transit train from North to South Terminal.
- Construction has begun on a new expansion to the South Terminal including replacing the old domestic pier and building a new facade.
- New bagage systems being installed across the airport.
- New glass jetbridges being installed to replace older models.

Give it another year or two and it will be a topnotch airport. Now all they need to do is build that second runway...
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RE: Which Airlines Do You Think Will Come To LGW Next?

Tue Oct 18, 2011 1:00 pm

One point that no one mentions about LGW.

If you are coming from West, you can get a train straight through from Reading, (almost to the door).
 
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RE: Which Airlines Do You Think Will Come To LGW Next?

Tue Oct 18, 2011 1:14 pm

I would like to see LGW at the pre-Open Skies Agreement capacity again. Hopefully, UA might operate a EWR-LGW and DL JFK-LGW (already has ATL-LGW). But I think that will be in a few years when the economy picks up. I see AR and GA going to LGW, but not before AMS and CDG where their major Skyteam partner hubs are. AMS and CDG can offer them excellent connections throughout Europe.
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RE: Which Airlines Do You Think Will Come To LGW Next?

Tue Oct 18, 2011 2:20 pm

Quoting staralliance85 (Reply 24):
UA might operate a EWR-LGW and DL JFK-LGW (already has ATL-LGW).

Both these routes were closed in recent years and moved to Heathrow. Every route LHR-ABC vs LGW-ABC "apparently" yields more out of LHR on the North Atlantic, as confirmed by the resasons given for CO (now UA) moving it's last LGW-EWR / IAH routes into LHR and DL moving all of LGW-JFK to LHR without even trying dual operations.

Quoting SKAirbus (Reply 22):
Now all they need to do is build that second runway...

Highly unlikely they'll be many votes in concreting a large part of green belt Sussex / Surrey, I love LGW and use it a lot but I have never seen a business case that I agreed with for a runway 2. I would be like MAN I think, nice to have but not a necessity as LGW can be pretty dead at times. As many times I have had to queue down at A1 to depart, off peak it is possible to taxi out and line up 26L, not something that happens at LHR a lot !
 
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RE: Which Airlines Do You Think Will Come To LGW Next?

Tue Oct 18, 2011 2:31 pm

Per ATI today, "Turkish Airlines will begin flights to four new destinations including London Gatwick cover the coming months."
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RE: Which Airlines Do You Think Will Come To LGW Next?

Wed Oct 19, 2011 1:48 pm

According to http://www.gatwickairport.com/flights/ U2 are moving all UK flights to the North Terminal, so should be some spare gates in the South terminal for others, or do they mean U2 UK domestic flights?

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RE: Which Airlines Do You Think Will Come To LGW Next?

Wed Oct 19, 2011 1:51 pm

Quoting Pe@rson (Reply 26):
Per ATI today, "Turkish Airlines will begin flights to four new destinations including London Gatwick cover the coming months."

Alright, good to hear!

Quoting richardw (Reply 27):
According to http://www.gatwickairport.com/flights/ U2 are moving all flights to the North Terminal, so should be some spare gates in the South terminal for others.

Wasn't expecting that, I thought there would have been more space at the South rather than the North...
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RE: Which Airlines Do You Think Will Come To LGW Next?

Wed Oct 19, 2011 2:06 pm

It was anounced a while back, it's GLA, ABZ and INV to join BFS and EDI which have the use of Stands 57L and 57R / Gates 55H and 55J in the domestic lounge. There won't be any more room as it's for the closure of Pier 1, I think FlyBe will be shoehorned into Pier 2 until the completion of the rebuild.

The above post has had the keyword "UK" added !

[Edited 2011-10-19 07:08:18]
 
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RE: Which Airlines Do You Think Will Come To LGW Next?

Wed Oct 19, 2011 2:50 pm

Yes, I re-read the Gatwick airport website notice, UK domestic would have been clearer.
 
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RE: Which Airlines Do You Think Will Come To LGW Next?

Wed Oct 19, 2011 8:57 pm

I think all this back patting for LGW's new flights needs to be balanced with the number of impending withdrawls/reductions of routes by NAX, SAS, EZY, BER & BTI etc.

The THY is a current LHR flight number, is this another 'lack of LHR slot' move?

[Edited 2011-10-19 14:04:48]

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