ILUV767
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1 Carry On For International Flights?

Thu Oct 05, 2000 10:02 am

Hello all,

Is it true that there is a carry-on limit of 1 bag on international flights? What counts as one bag? Do the airlines make exceptions? If they do, when?

I have a rolling cart, and a small bag that attaches to it. If I brought both on board, and had no check luggage, would I be allowed to board, with both bags?

Just wondering?

Thanks for your replies.
 
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RE: 1 Carry On For International Flights?

Thu Oct 05, 2000 10:06 am

Different carriers have different rules, but Delta's carry-on policy is identical for international and domestic flights, as is Continental's. The only thing that varies is the amount of allowed checked-baggage (on Delta at least.) Bear in mind that European airlines allow a maximum of 14lbs (6kg) carry-on baggage. Delta and Continental both allow 44lbs (20kgs) per bag, max of two bags. For checked, Delta is a maximum of 70lbs per checked piece no more than two pieces per person.

Hope this helps.

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RE: 1 Carry On For International Flights?

Thu Oct 05, 2000 10:09 am

And yes both Continental and Delta will accept a 'wheeley-bag' and a rucksack for example together, on all international flights. (I fly with exactly that combination to London and I know it works....)

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RE: 1 Carry On For International Flights?

Thu Oct 05, 2000 10:13 am

Are you talking in means of standby or regular ticket.

BA's Club Europe has a max. of 2 bags for an Int'l flight. I don't know what Club europe and First have a max of. Can someone post it?

World travallier has 1 max.
I find some more airlines.

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RE: 1 Carry On For International Flights?

Thu Oct 05, 2000 10:16 am

Stand By

BTW, thanks for your responces so far!  
 
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RE: 1 Carry On For International Flights?

Thu Oct 05, 2000 10:16 am

The European airlines have a limit in Coach of one piece of cabin baggage no heavier than 14lbs / 6kg - a lot smaller than a wheely-bag. If travelling in Europe, it'll have to be checked. (and they don't Gate Check either.) This one piece includes a pocket book. (Tho that won't affect you....)

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FLY777UAL
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RE: 1 Carry On For International Flights?

Thu Oct 05, 2000 10:19 am

While the actual limitation set by the company is one bag, most times, CSR's will have no problem with passengers toting extra bags along with them as long as they are modest in size.

-Be calm, cool, and collected while boarding
-Be non-chalant about the extra bag. Pretend it isn't there.
-Have a great attitude toward the CSR's. If you're their "friend", then they will be yours, too.

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RE: 1 Carry On For International Flights?

Thu Oct 05, 2000 11:13 am

It also depends on how full the flight is. F/A's and CSA's in my experience tend to be more lenient if the flight is less full. Only twice have I been forced to check a second carry-on: Once on AC when I had a carry-on and a shopping bag and was told to choose (shoving my shaving kit and valuables into my shopping bag; They were very polite and assured me they'd take good care of my carry-on), and once on Saudia when they forced me to check my PC. Fortunately, it arrived in Jeddah undamaged, much to my relief!

Charles
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RE: 1 Carry On For International Flights?

Thu Oct 05, 2000 11:16 am

Fly777UAL,
I'm always like that! I fly out of SMF weekly to go home, and I know all of the CSR's. We joke a lot, and they do what they can to get me on a flight back home.

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RE: 1 Carry On For International Flights?

Thu Oct 05, 2000 12:49 pm

The Express CSR's seem to be the most helpful, in my opinion.

When my DEN flight was delayed by two hours, a UEX CSR re-planned my entire itinerary for me (was SMF-DEN-SFO-SMF, and then turned into: SMF-SFO-DEN-SMF).

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RE: 1 Carry On For International Flights?

Thu Oct 05, 2000 1:14 pm

FLY777UAL,
The CSR's in SMF are all UAL employees. I guess they do SkyWest a favor!  
The CSR's in SMF are some of the nicest, and most helpful that I have ever encountered!
 
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RE: 1 Carry On For International Flights?

Thu Oct 05, 2000 1:24 pm

Whichever ones seem to be working the UEX counter, though are the niceset, to me at least.

The CSR's I usually see are:
-Maria Gonzalez
-A short, skinny Asian guy
-A short, skinny Middle Eastern/Indian guy

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RE: 1 Carry On For International Flights?

Thu Oct 05, 2000 4:13 pm

"European airlines allow a maximum of 14lbs (6kg)"

"The European airlines have a limit in Coach of one piece of cabin baggage no heavier than 14lbs / 6kg - a lot smaller than a wheely-bag."

I quote the following from the regulations of one European airline, KLM

"One piece of cabin baggage is allowed per passenger, maximum dimensions 55 x 35 x 25 cm, maximum weight : 10 kg's."

"World Business Class passengers are allowed to carry on an additional garment bag (folded, a maximum depth of 20 cm and a maximum weight of 8 kg's), or a briefcase (maximum depth of 20 cm and a maximum weight of 8 kg's)"

My "wheely-bag" measures exactly 55 x 35 x 25 cms. This is no coincidence, it was designed as carry-on luggage.

Most KLM check-in counters have frame with the above dimensions mounted on a scale. If your bag doesn't fit the frame or is too heavy it must be checked. In theory, at least. I've gotten away with 13½ kg. How strictly the rules are enforced depends on a variety of factors, such as your appearance and demeanor, FF status etc.

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Lufthansa - Please Read!

Thu Oct 05, 2000 4:49 pm

Hi out there

on international FLights with Lufthansa nobody cares if you even take 3 big suitcases on board!!

I often realised Trampers on Board Lufthansa 526 FRA-EZE-SCL with heavy 1.2m tall "Rucksacks" and none of the LH crew staff said "no sir"

I ALWAYS have a Rucksack and my Photobag with me, and after showing my "Miles and More" card on the gate, I 'm allowed to board with "no questions asked".

Mario

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RE: 1 Carry On For International Flights?

Thu Oct 05, 2000 5:36 pm

In my experience (with Ansett, Air New Zealand, Qantas, JAL, Air Vanuatu, Southern Pacific, FlightWest, BA and Delta, United and Tower Air)it is only US airlines that *officially* allow you more than 1 carry-on bag. It was a real shock the first time I flew US domestic with DL and they announced that beause the flight was full, passengers with more than one carry-on bag could only stow one in the overhead compartment and the other under the seat - I had thought you were only allowed one!
But its not stictly one bag only. Its one bag plus "...personal items such as overcoat, umbrella, handbag, purse, camera, binoculars and a reasonable amount of reading matter for the flight..." In practice this has normally allowed in my experience one bag plus one/two duty-free bags with no problems.
 
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Bear In Mind...

Thu Oct 05, 2000 5:56 pm

I believe that no Airline can efford it to reject you on the gate because of to much carry on Luggage........

That' sound rediculous, airlines have to fight for each passenger and being rejected at the gate in my eyes is the best way to lose a customer......

correct me if I'm wrong......
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RE: 1 Carry On For International Flights?

Thu Oct 05, 2000 5:58 pm

When I flew DL it was something like you can have a total of 3 bags: 2 carryon, 1 checked or 2 checked, 1 carryon or 0 carryon, 3 checked, etc. etc. Also I bought one of those wheeled suitcases cause it had a tag on it that says it is allowed for carryon on every US airline, well when I went to check in for my NW flight my bag didnt fit in the size-wise or whatever they call it and NW made me check it in. Dont believe what the bag manufacturer says.
 
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RE: 1 Carry On For International Flights?

Thu Oct 05, 2000 6:36 pm

Well, that depends.

Personally I appreciate it when the rules are enforced (at least as far as quantity and dimensions are concerned). Stowage space on board is limited, so it is somewhat annoying to discover that your fellow pax have stuffed all the overhead lockers, leaving no room for your single bag. As I make a habit of being one of the last passengers to board (I'm not going to stand in line if I can avoid it), the others invariable beat me to the lockers.
A recent customer survey by I-forget-which airline revealed that one of the most important reasons for pax wanting to board first, even though they have pre-assigned seats, is the lack of stowage space.

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RE: 1 Carry On For International Flights?

Thu Oct 05, 2000 6:53 pm

What the airlines should do is try to make it where they dont lose too many peoples luggage. This is the reason why people carry-on most of their stuff, because they want to make sure its going to arrive with them. I have had my luggage lost about 4 times, and the last time I lost my luggage, they didnt find it for about 4 days. It really sucked. Anyhow, when I finally got my bag back, it was missing a few of my things (my 200$ Columbia jacket, and my 60$ electric toothbrush) well they sent me a claim form 3 months later, and to get money for the stuff they lost, they needed sales receipts, my ticket stubs, date of purchase and a bunch of other crap. Well, I dont save receipts for things and I dont save my ticket stubs either. I told them this and they said "I guess thats just too bad". Now because of this experience, I am very hesitant to hand my personal belongings over to any airline.
 
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RE: 1 Carry On For International Flights?

Thu Oct 05, 2000 7:21 pm

You have a valid point there about checked luggage.

I regularly travel by bus between gate and aircraft at AMS and I almost just as regularly see amazing examples of how luggage is treated. I shall resist the temptation to describe all the things I have seen done to luggage, suffice to say that I too avoid checking baggage whenever possible. I try to travel light, a maximum of one checked and one carry-on item. I also avoid purchasing tax free items at the airport or on board.

As far as compensation goes, I have always been compensated in full for damage done to my bags, although not always promptly. One one occasion the airline paid out twice on the same claim.


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RE: 1 Carry On For International Flights?

Thu Oct 05, 2000 9:00 pm

Once tavelling by Qatar Airways from London to Karachi I was with a group of eight relatives we had double number of hand bags, the Lady Officer at the airport counter wouldnt let us take that on board, we hid some of the bags at a distance so she wouldnt see them and finally got to take them all, the flight was packed to capacity a/c was an A300-600, but I think its dangerous to stuff the cabin with so much hand luggage.

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RE: 1 Carry On For International Flights?

Fri Oct 06, 2000 5:35 am


Okay, Right now I am looking at UA's baggage info on the ticket holder. It is a recent one with gray cover and the new UA logo with the logo in the gray barley visible.


Baggage Info and tips:

Okay Im looking.........


Carry on baggage:

Here it is!

In parenthises (max. 2 pieces for travel in U.S. , Canada, Peurto Rico 1 piece to/from all other destanations

I don't know if this regards stand by too but this is worth a try.

Hope that helps, probably won't..

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RE: 1 Carry On For International Flights?

Fri Oct 06, 2000 6:05 am

Well, I took three carry-ons aboard my return flight on Aeroflot last June (SVO-ORD) and no one batted an eyelash. I had a larger carry-on - a two-wheeled F/A-type bag - and two smaller bags. They fit neatly into either the overhead bin on the 767-300ER or under the seat in front of me. Aeroflot isn't too strict about that sort of thing.   However, on other flights, I've been severely limited - in fact, not only was I allowed one carry-on only on SAS in 1996, they wanted to fine me for the additional luggage (2 boxes and a duffel bag) I had as I was moving back from living abroad after 4.5 years. Since I had no money, I ended up having to leave three items behind in Stockholm, where they are to this day.

So based on my experience, the number of carry-ons allowed depends on the airline, as well as how full the flight is, in many cases. Several airlines have strict set standards they abide by. Others, like Aeroflot, LOT, CSA and MALEV, don't.
 
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RE: 1 Carry On For International Flights?

Fri Oct 06, 2000 6:58 am

My experience in regularly flying transAtlantic, predominantly on Virgin but also on BA and Northwest, is that you can carry on one piece in coach, no heavier than 5kgs, if it is to go in the overhead (good thing too as any overhead piece can kill in an accident).

You can get a heavier piece on board if it is able to fit under the seat in front of you and, for years, I had a case which carried 2 SLRs, 4 lenses, a mirror telescope and film made specially to fit the space (and the space in the overhead ceiling locker used, when seated as I always try to be, in an exit row).

That has now died and I found that I can get an SLR, lenses and a video camera into the video camera bag which is far smaller than the previous case.

I also found that I could also get a soft document bag, which also carries a spare shirt, underwear and toiletries
plus travel docs, on board at the same time.

All ladies can officially carry one piece plus a purse (known as a handbag in England).

In addition, of course, the airlines break their own rules by handing out bottles of volatile imflammable liquid in unprotected containers at the gate to those with the right documents (otherwise known as duty free liquor).

Regional flights within Europe are often more stringent and anyone expecting the crazy free for all airlines allow, in practice if not in theory, in the USA is in for a shock.