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LAN To Code-Share With JAL

Thu Oct 13, 2011 6:15 pm

LAN Airlines S.A. and Japan Airlines Co., Ltd. were both approved by the U.S. DOT to engage in reciprocal blanket code-sharing.

LAN is permitted to place JAL's code on LAN operated flights between any points behind Chile, via any points in Chile and any intermediate points, to any points in the U.S., and beyond.

JAL is permitted to place LAN's code on JAL operated flights between any points behind Japan, via any points in Japan and any intermediate points, to any points in the U.S., and beyond.

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RE: LAN To Code-Share With JAL

Thu Oct 13, 2011 6:30 pm

I am surprised this wasn't done years ago...good to see OneWorld continue to strengthen their alliance...it has been quite amazing over the past 1-2 years!
 
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RE: LAN To Code-Share With JAL

Thu Oct 13, 2011 6:38 pm

Good news but why has this taken place only now seeing that these airlines have been OneWorld members for several years(3 to 4 years?)

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RE: LAN To Code-Share With JAL

Thu Oct 13, 2011 6:52 pm

Quoting A388 (Reply 2):
Good news but why has this taken place only now seeing that these airlines have been OneWorld members for several years(3 to 4 years?)

It is due to the fact that 3 or 4 years ago LAN did not operate into LAX 10 to 11 times weekly, SFO was not a LAN destination, SCL-JFK did not operate daily, and LAN did not operate the SCL-LAX route non-stop on a year-round basis. LAN plans to operate the SCL-LAX route on a year-round basis in the near future and will launch new routes into both JFK and LAX; thus the two carriers are planning ahead of time.
 
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RE: LAN To Code-Share With JAL

Thu Oct 13, 2011 6:59 pm

I guess this removes any remaining residual doubt that the merged LATAM is going to OneWorld......
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RE: LAN To Code-Share With JAL

Thu Oct 13, 2011 7:16 pm

The new code-share relationship between LAN and JAL will allow seamless connections between South America, Japan and beyond via certain U.S. points. This new agreement will greatly benefit both carriers' customers. For example, last year LAN Airlines and LAN Perú entered into a bilateral code-share agreement with Cathay Pacific Airways which covers several routes operated by both LAN and Cathay. The code-share relationship between LAN and Cathay is doing very well and both carriers' customers benefit from the relationship forged between the two carriers. Also, LAN recently received approval to code-share on QF's new thrice weekly non-stop service between SYD and SCL. QF has been code-sharing with LAN for years on LAN's daily SCL-AKL-SYD service. Soon both LAN and Qantas customers will enjoy 10 weekly direct flights between SYD and SCL!
 
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RE: LAN To Code-Share With JAL

Thu Oct 13, 2011 8:37 pm

Quoting SCL767 (Reply 3):

It is due to the fact that 3 or 4 years ago LAN did not operate into LAX 10 to 11 times weekly, SFO was not a LAN destination, SCL-JFK did not operate daily, and LAN did not operate the SCL-LAX route non-stop on a year-round basis. LAN plans to operate the SCL-LAX route on a year-round basis in the near future and will launch new routes into both JFK and LAX; thus the two carriers are planning ahead of time.

I have seen codeshared flights with airlines only having one daily flight to an airport where the partner airline also operated into. I wasn't aware that codeshares needed a minimum number of flights in order to have each other's codes on those flights. Strange but oh well, such is the way it goes with LAN/JAL (apparently).

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RE: LAN To Code-Share With JAL

Thu Oct 13, 2011 8:57 pm

Quoting A388 (Reply 6):
I have seen codeshared flights with airlines only having one daily flight to an airport where the partner airline also operated into. I wasn't aware that codeshares needed a minimum number of flights in order to have each other's codes on those flights. Strange but oh well, such is the way it goes with LAN/JAL (apparently).

I'm not sure if you are aware of JAL's recent history. JAL almost left OW during a huge bidding war, and was entering BK. Perhaps LAN was simply being cautious since there was a lot of uncertainty facing JAL's future in many areas. Is it not wise for a carrier to remain cautious considering JAL's position at that time? I'm sure you will disagree...
 
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RE: LAN To Code-Share With JAL

Thu Oct 13, 2011 11:44 pm

Quoting SCL767 (Thread starter):
LAN Airlines S.A. and Japan Airlines Co., Ltd. were both approved by the U.S. DOT to engage in reciprocal blanket code-sharing.

Why does the US DOT need to rule on this? Shouldn't this be between Chile and Japan?
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RE: LAN To Code-Share With JAL

Fri Oct 14, 2011 12:27 am

Quoting blink182 (Reply 8):
Quoting SCL767 (Thread starter):
LAN Airlines S.A. and Japan Airlines Co., Ltd. were both approved by the U.S. DOT to engage in reciprocal blanket code-sharing.

Why does the US DOT need to rule on this? Shouldn't this be between Chile and Japan?

It involves code-sharing via points with-in the U.S.on flights operated by both LA and JL. Initially, JAL will place its code on LA's SCL-LIM-JFK, SCL-LIM-LAX and SCL-JFK routes and LAN will place its code on JL's JFK-NRT and LAX-NRT routes.
 
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RE: LAN To Code-Share With JAL

Fri Oct 14, 2011 11:38 am

Quoting SCL767 (Reply 7):
I'm not sure if you are aware of JAL's recent history. JAL almost left OW during a huge bidding war, and was entering BK. Perhaps LAN was simply being cautious since there was a lot of uncertainty facing JAL's future in many areas. Is it not wise for a carrier to remain cautious considering JAL's position at that time? I'm sure you will disagree...

This is a different story as you never mentioned this in your previous post, so yes I disagree with your post.

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RE: LAN To Code-Share With JAL

Wed Oct 19, 2011 4:18 pm

JAL's code-share with LAN Airlines S.A. launches on October 20th:

LA600 SCL-LIM-LAX sold as JL7620
LA601 LAX-LIM-SCL sold as JL7621

LA530 SCL-LIM-JFK sold as JL7624
LA535 JFK-LIM-SCL sold as JL7625

LA602 SCL-LAX sold as JL7622
LA603 LAX-SCL sold as JL7623

LA532 SCL-JFK sold as JL7626
LA533 JFK-SCL sold as JL7627

JAL and LAN Enter New Codeshare Agreement
 
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RE: LAN To Code-Share With JAL

Wed Oct 19, 2011 4:22 pm

Great news, finally it's happening after 3 (to 4) years. Congratulations to JAL and LAN!!!

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RE: LAN To Code-Share With JAL

Wed Oct 19, 2011 4:41 pm

LAN now has code-share relationships with fellow oneworld alliance members AA, BA, CX, IB, JL, and QF.


The next step is for JAL to enter into a code-share agreement with LAN Perú S.A. which operates flights between LIM and LAX, SFO and soon JFK. Also, both LAN and JAL will be amongst the first carriers to operate the B-787 Dreamliner.

[Edited 2011-10-19 10:03:51]
 
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RE: LAN To Code-Share With JAL

Wed Oct 19, 2011 4:45 pm

Quoting steve6666 (Reply 4):
I guess this removes any remaining residual doubt that the merged LATAM is going to OneWorld......

Why? Code-sharing agreements across alliances is not all that unusual. More importantly, there's no evidence that despite the merger, each airline won't remain in its own alliance. In fact, what do they gain from leaving either alliance? Not much. TAM's markets don't overlap with LAN's markets at all.
 
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RE: LAN To Code-Share With JAL

Wed Oct 19, 2011 4:51 pm

Quoting airbazar (Reply 14):
More importantly, there's no evidence that despite the merger, each airline won't remain in its own alliance. In fact, what do they gain from leaving either alliance?

As directed by the TDLC, LATAM Airlines Group S.A. cannot be in the same alliance as AV-TA. Star Alliance has selected AV-TA to join that alliance, thus Star Alliance will loose TAM as a member, as well as access to a plethora of destinations in one of the most important markets in the world.
 
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RE: LAN To Code-Share With JAL

Wed Oct 19, 2011 5:08 pm

Quoting SCL767 (Reply 13):

If Lan Peru was to join the code-sharing, could we see them changing their flight schedule into SFO to streamline with JL 1/2, which operates late afternoon to Haneda?
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RE: LAN To Code-Share With JAL

Wed Oct 19, 2011 5:12 pm

Quoting as739x (Reply 16):
If Lan Peru was to join the code-sharing, could we see them changing their flight schedule into SFO to streamline with JL 1/2, which operates late afternoon to Haneda?

Most likely, LAN Airlines and LAN Perú will soon announce changes to its flight schedules at LIM that will go into effect during March, 2012.
 
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RE: LAN To Code-Share With JAL

Wed Oct 19, 2011 6:51 pm

LAN plans on strengthening operations at the Lima Hub next year by increasing the frequency of flights at LIM and launching new intercontinental routes. This is possible as LAN incorporates new wide-body a/c into the fleet. For example, LAN Perú will increase frequency on the LIM-MIA route to 13x weekly, resume non-stop service between Lima and Easter Island and add additional frequencies on the LIM-EZE route utilizing the B-767-316ERs. Thus, LAN will operate the LIM-EZE route 23x weekly. LAN Perú will also operate into JFK next year, increase frequencies into LAX and SFO and will add 7 additional frequencies between LIM and the Caribbean.
LAN aumentará de 10 a 17 las frecuencias semanales desde la capital peruana hacia distintos puntos del Caribe:
LAN Perú anuncia vuelos directos entre Lima y La Habana

Last Monday, LAN received its newest B-767-316ER, CC-CDA.

CC-CDA:
http://paineairport.com/images/kpae7343.png

http://paineairport.com/kpae4223.htm

CC-CDB:
http://paineairport.com/images/kpae7429.png

http://paineairport.com/kpae4309.htm

LAN also plans on operating the B-787-8s into LIM next year.

LAN Expects To Operate 787 First RNP Approaches In Lima

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LAN is working to implement about five required navigation performance (RNP) approaches at Lima, LAN’s CNS/ATM Technical Pilot Christian Staiger said at the GE Aviation Services Global Performance-Based Navigation Summit in Seattle last week. The carrier is scheduled to begin taking delivery of its 787s in early 2012, and while it is not the first customer for this aircraft, it is expected to be the first to operate 787s on RNP approaches.
LAN Expects To Operate 787 First RNP Approaches In Lima