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BA Adds 4,000 Seats A Week To LHR-GLA

Tue Oct 18, 2011 10:40 am

Not sure if this story has been covered here already ...

But BA will start to raise capacity on the Heathrow-Glasgow route by 25 % from the start of the winter schedule. It's to make up for the seat shortage caused by BD's withdrawal from the route earlier this year.

The extra capacity is coming from operating additional flights and using a 252-seater B767 on busy services.

The move has been welcomed by local business in Glasgow because it will improve links with the capital and make it easier to make international connections over LHR.

http://www.businesstraveller.com/news/ba-boosts-heathrow-glasgow-route
 
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Tue Oct 18, 2011 11:15 am

I always knew from my travels through GLA that the LHR services were busy, but enough to utilise at 767? Took me by surprise that one.
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Tue Oct 18, 2011 11:21 am

Quoting gingersnap (Reply 1):

I always knew from my travels through GLA that the LHR services were busy, but enough to utilise at 767? Took me by surprise that one.

bmi just recently dropped their GLA-LHR service, so there will be an increased demand for BA.

If the demand is enough to justify 2 767 flights a day plus extra services, I wonder if bmi have made a mistake here?
 
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Tue Oct 18, 2011 11:21 am

Quoting gingersnap (Reply 1):
but enough to utilise at 767? Took me by surprise that one.

Seeing as though BA is now the only airline on the GLA LHR route, yup its needed.

The 767 flight is utilised on the main flight people will get down and up for Euro and International Connections.
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Tue Oct 18, 2011 11:24 am

Quoting LondonCity (Thread starter):
The extra capacity is coming from operating additional flights and using a 252-seater B767 on busy services.

They used to be common enough on the GLA / EDI shuttles, one of the night stoppers went from a B757 to a B763, the last evening departure from GLA was also a B763 for a while, this is going back to the mid nineties though, just before the coming of FR and EZY.

The odd thing about this, is that I believe it's the frist Northbound out of LHR that's getting this B763, so will be the mid morning return from GLA, neither of which is in peak travel. I could be wrong though as I haven't travelled at those times for a while, but the peak flow was North to South at the same time this B763 is going South to North, or am I wrong?
 
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Tue Oct 18, 2011 12:46 pm

Nice to see a widebody on a UK domestic route again! It shows how useful it still is to have a 'small' widebody in the fleet, as there's still quite a capacity gap between the A321/739 and the 788/A332, especially as the latter aren't geared around short haul routes.
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Tue Oct 18, 2011 1:08 pm

Quoting AirbusA6 (Reply 5):
Nice to see a widebody on a UK domestic route again! It shows how useful it still is to have a 'small' widebody in the fleet, as there's still quite a capacity gap between the A321/739 and the 788/A332, especially as the latter aren't geared around short haul routes.

I hope EDI gets the 767 back. May be if they buy BD, they would reduce frequency and use 767s.
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Tue Oct 18, 2011 1:31 pm

My god! I was shocked to see a 767 getting used - great for the domestic flying market in the UK! Never thought I'd see the day! I might just plan a MAN-LHR-GLS-LHR-MAN trip... might be fun to do... maybe the MAN-LHR bits on BD... (wrong forum for that though...) glad to see BA filling the gap! Does GLS have widebody domestic gates?
 
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Tue Oct 18, 2011 1:56 pm

Quoting nighthawk (Reply 2):
I wonder if bmi have made a mistake here?

bmi have been making mistakes for 20+ years. A once very good airline, sadly now in the last days of existance

Might just book a GLA run for the 767 ride
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Tue Oct 18, 2011 2:03 pm

I flew GLA-LHR around a decade ago and was lucky enough to get a 767 on the route. I'd enjoy doing that again. Maybe it's time to start flying through LHR on BA between CPH & GLA rather than BMI direct.  
 
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Tue Oct 18, 2011 2:14 pm

Quoting planejamie (Reply 7):
Does GLS have widebody domestic gates?

I have used both Stand 19 and 22 on the B763, not sure if 21 is suitable though as I've never seen the 767 on there.
It's "GLA" by the way  
I'm not sure it's great for domestic service as these 767s were expected to have been retired by now and so are dying for a facelift inside. It's like flying on the old G-BUS* A320s, great for an enthusiast, time travel for the travelling public!
 
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RE: BA Adds 4,000 Seats A Week To LHR-GLA

Tue Oct 18, 2011 3:08 pm

Quoting skipness1E (Reply 10):
I'm not sure it's great for domestic service as these 767s were expected to have been retired by now and so are dying for a facelift inside

The facelift/cabin upgrade was confirmed to be going ahead only today to those of us on the 767.
The first LH 767-300 gets the upgrade in January 2012, with the first SH hull being rolled out onto the line in March 2012.

The delay was due to a supply issue with the new enlarged overhead lockers (which is a very important part of the cabin upgrade, especially on the high density SH routes). The upgrade is more than just overhead bins though, it's all the sidewall lighting and panels, new toilets, new IFE screens replacing the overhead TV's etc (on the SH hulls), and on the LH hulls modified Club World seat (slightly different from on the 744/777 due to the narrower cabin) plus the new upgraded World Traveller Plus (premium economy) and World Traveller (economy) seats as on the other LH BA fleets.

It should greatly enhance the experience that our customers have on board our 767's and it's a bonus to be able to fly it domestically from March as the SH hulls begin to be rolled out.

Also, the majority of the SH 767s (5 of 7) that BA are flying were the last that BA took delivery on in 1996-99, so they are not as old as you might think. They (the SH hulls) with the new cabin upgrades could easily be around for another 8 years or so if BA decide to keep them and upgrade their avionics to meet new regulations post 2016.

If BA do absorb BMI I could see 767 operating a lot of the 'shuttle' capacity to GLA/EDI/MAN.

The 767 is a very versatile aircraft for BA. It operated to Glasgow and as far east as Hyderabad, India, south as Lusaka, Zambia and west to Calgary, Canada.

I look forward to welcoming many of you aboard the upgraded 767's very soon, and certainly look forward to doing some 'shuttle' work again which has been missing since the end of the 757's.

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Tue Oct 18, 2011 3:35 pm

Hear hear, had a great time in Club Europe on LHR-FRA on the G-BNWY last month, even better flying back on G-BNWM !!!
 
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Tue Oct 18, 2011 4:13 pm

Quoting skipness1E (Reply 4):
The odd thing about this, is that I believe it's the frist Northbound out of LHR that's getting this B763, so will be the mid morning return from GLA, neither of which is in peak travel. I could be wrong though as I haven't travelled at those times for a while, but the peak flow was North to South at the same time this B763 is going South to North, or am I wrong?

According to the article, the B767 will appear on BA1472 ex-LHR and back from GLA with BA1477. Days of operation are daily, except 4, 6 and 7. The timings of these flights may be convenient for transit pax at LHR rather than those flying end-to-end ?
 
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Tue Oct 18, 2011 4:41 pm

Quoting nighthawk (Reply 2):
If the demand is enough to justify 2 767 flights a day plus extra services

Its one flight ex GLA only and on certain days a week (2 flights I suppose if you count the return)
 
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Tue Oct 18, 2011 5:36 pm

Now that BMI doesn't fly this route, what option does Star Alliance have for connecting passengers in LHR from GLA?
 
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Tue Oct 18, 2011 5:40 pm

They are using BA bizarrely....!
 
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Tue Oct 18, 2011 6:47 pm

Quite amazing. Just shows that perhaps BMI were a little to ready to give up on this market. My parents flew GLA-LHR-GLA at the weekend with BA and it was an A321 each way that was packed and there was a large standby list too.

Incidently I flew LHR-MAN in 1995 with BA on a Europe fleet 767. Some serious metal for a 25 minute flight!
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Tue Oct 18, 2011 6:55 pm

how many seats per week did BD formerly offer.
 
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Tue Oct 18, 2011 7:00 pm

Quoting adg737800 (Reply 17):
Quite amazing. Just shows that perhaps BMI were a little to ready to give up on this market. My parents flew GLA-LHR-GLA at the weekend with BA and it was an A321 each way that was packed and there was a large standby list too.

- Indeed, it does not matter what time of day you travel, and I'm travelling almost weekly on a mix of travel times,the BA EDI/GLA services are all pretty much full - it's a bit of a worry bmi was loosing £38 for every passenger it flew flew on the GLA route, they obviously got something wrong......
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Tue Oct 18, 2011 7:05 pm

Is there really the demand. I would have thought Virgin west coast have got the majority on the O&D market on that route.
 
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Tue Oct 18, 2011 7:07 pm

Quoting BA174 (Reply 20):
Is there really the demand.

- Yes, the flights are all full or as close as.
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Tue Oct 18, 2011 7:14 pm

and some of the fares are pretty steep....
 
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Tue Oct 18, 2011 7:20 pm

I think like the JFK shuttle, BA should relaunch the domestic shuttle concept with fixed

Quoting ba319-131 (Reply 19):
- Indeed, it does not matter what time of day you travel, and I'm travelling almost weekly on a mix of travel times,the BA EDI/GLA services are all pretty much full - it's a bit of a worry bmi was loosing £38 for every passenger it flew flew on the GLA route, they obviously got something wrong......

EDI has 6 or 7 A321s a day and GLA is getting a 767. Nice to see shorthaul domestic picking up... Loved those Super Shuttle days with hourly services to EDI at :00 to GLA at :15 and to Man at :30 at gate 5.
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Tue Oct 18, 2011 7:41 pm

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Tue Oct 18, 2011 7:49 pm

Quoting BA174 (Reply 20):
Is there really the demand. I would have thought Virgin west coast have got the majority on the O&D market on that route.

There is. Time wise the plane is still quite competitive against Virgin WC. Price wise there's not much difference between train and plane and then there's the Pendolino factor - my parents hate Pendolinos (find them too cramped, pervading smell of chemical loo and motion sickness problems!) and will always choose an alternative over one!
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Tue Oct 18, 2011 7:52 pm

Quoting gingersnap (Reply 1):
I always knew from my travels through GLA that the LHR services were busy, but enough to utilise at 767? Took me by surprise that one.

Never mind B763, I have seen B772 on the LHR - Glasgow route over the last while, one in fact was used last week.
 
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Tue Oct 18, 2011 7:58 pm

I wonder if we will ever see BD back on the route? Although, that's providing they continue operating in their current form, which isn't certain at all.

It's not like BA is alone in terms of the Glasgow-London flight market with EZY to LGW, LTN and STN, although they will now be carrying all the transfer passengers and premium traffic.

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Tue Oct 18, 2011 8:06 pm

Quoting EuroWings (Reply 27):
I wonder if we will ever see BD back on the route?

My initial thought to reading this thread was "what were BD thinking?" More to the point, why would they scrap GLA and keep hold of MAN, when GLA obviously has so much more O&D demand (since the WCML upgrade)

The answer may well be that MAN provides more connecting passengers, and perhaps higher yielding ones onto bmi's slightly oddball network (to Freetown and Almaty etc).
 
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Tue Oct 18, 2011 8:06 pm

Quoting awthompson (Reply 26):
Never mind B763, I have seen B772 on the LHR - Glasgow route over the last while, one in fact was used last week

It was Gatwick and as a result of tech 734's only
 
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Tue Oct 18, 2011 8:11 pm

Quoting shufflemoomin (Reply 9):
I flew GLA-LHR around a decade ago and was lucky enough to get a 767 on the route. I'd enjoy doing that again. Maybe it's time to start flying through LHR on BA between CPH & GLA rather than BMI direct.

Please continue to use CPH-GLA direct ... we need to use it or lose it!
 
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Tue Oct 18, 2011 8:16 pm

Quoting LH121GLA (Reply 30):

Please continue to use CPH-GLA direct ... we need to use it or lose it!

Poor frequency, tiny aircraft and extortionate prices- not reallly condusive to high throuput. Surprised its lasted. Will go in the BMI shake-up however.
 
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Tue Oct 18, 2011 8:22 pm

Quoting shufflemoomin (Reply 15):
Now that BMI doesn't fly this route, what option does Star Alliance have for connecting passengers in LHR from GLA?

None. BA are the only option to LHR.

To other Star Hubs - we have BD to CPH and CO/UA to EWR. US to PHL summer only.

The quicker LH dispose of BD the better in my opinion. Not sure what will happen to the BD service to CPH (please SK take this route over again)!

LH have missed a trick as far as GLA is concerned. They could and should have ALL of the East/South and to a lesser extent Westbound Star traffic ex-GLA. They need to be in here with 3 x daily GLA-FRA and perhaps 2 x daily GLA-MUC to capture traffic away from BA and KL/AF.

After all the 4,000 extra seats from BA are being provided to improve capacity for international connecting passengers.

Who knows, perhaps we shall see LH return to GLA after a 20+ year absence once they dispose of BD and once the ownership issue of GLA/EDI airport is known.
 
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Tue Oct 18, 2011 8:34 pm

BY738 you're being provocative. The GLA-CPH is a route going back decades and was inherited from SAS. Please provide something to back up your conclusive armchair statement. LH dropped GLA-FRA years ago, AF tried GLA-CDG twice and both failed. Legacy European routes only seem to work from EDI, even SN when they came back failed.

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Tue Oct 18, 2011 8:56 pm

Quoting skipness1E (Reply 33):
BY738 you're being provocative. The GLA-CPH is a route going back decades and was inherited from SAS. Please provide something to back up your conclusive armchair statement. LH dropped GLA-FRA years ago, AF tried GLA-CDG twice and both failed. Legacy European routes only seem to work from EDI, even SN when they came back failed.

I don't think he IS being provocative. I travel between Copenhagen and Scotland regularly and small aircraft and high prices are EXACTLY the reason why I stopped using the route and went to Norwegian to EDI. I get a 737 and I get prices that are sometimes 25% of BMI's or less. I don't see why it's provocative. I'd say the only people choosing that route over Norwegian are frequent flier members and business men. I'm sure if Norwegian sent even one aircraft a day to GLA that BMI's business would halve over night. I'm all about getting from A to B as comfortably and cheaply as possible and Norwegian offer me plenty that BMI doesn't. I've never went through LHR with BA because of the stop over, even though their prices are almost always cheaper than BMI but with the addition of the 767, I might give it a shot. BMI used to be my first and only choice for convenience, but since the introduction of DY on CPH-EDI, I've only used them once and don't plan on doing so again.
 
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Tue Oct 18, 2011 8:57 pm

Quoting skipness1E (Reply 10):
I have used both Stand 19 and 22 on the B763, not sure if 21 is suitable though as I've never seen the 767 on there.
It's "GLA" by the way  
I'm not sure it's great for domestic service as these 767s were expected to have been retired by now and so are dying for a facelift inside. It's like flying on the old G-BUS* A320s, great for an enthusiast, time travel for the travelling public!

Woops, my mistake! My other question, I presume eventually MAN will gain a 767 at some point, where will it park at MAN as the domestic 41-42 (and 43?) stands (and gates 141-143) are pretty tight!

Quoting MANfan (Reply 11):
I look forward to welcoming many of you aboard the upgraded 767's very soon, and certainly look forward to doing some 'shuttle' work again which has been missing since the end of the 757's.

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Tue Oct 18, 2011 9:08 pm

Quoting skipness1E (Reply 33):

From one "armchair" commentator to another- the facts are clear to see. And confirmed by those who actually use the service.... Revisit this subject in a year or so.

Quoting shufflemoomin (Reply 34):
I don't think he IS being provocative. I travel between Copenhagen and Scotland regularly
 
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Tue Oct 18, 2011 9:10 pm

Quoting planejamie (Reply 35):
Woops, my mistake! My other question, I presume eventually MAN will gain a 767 at some point

What makes you say that? There isn't nearly as much O&D traffic on that route.
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Tue Oct 18, 2011 9:27 pm

Very good point, I take it back, I don't get back as often as I should. DY would grow the market immensely, bmi have less capacity than the DC9-41 twenty years ago. Mind you they grew the Scotland-CPH market by adding a twice daily EDI but can't offer a good capacity with the ERJ.
 
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Tue Oct 18, 2011 9:50 pm

GLA-CPH August 2011 pax down 7%
GLA-CPH September (prov) 2011 pax down 9%
 
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Tue Oct 18, 2011 10:37 pm

Quoting shufflemoomin (Reply 34):
I travel between Copenhagen and Scotland regularly and small aircraft and high prices are EXACTLY the reason why I stopped using the route and went to Norwegian to EDI
BD also have exactly the same problem with EDI-ZRH. The last time I went to ZRH I flew EDI - BSL with U2 and took the train to ZRH. Obviously it took a bit longer but even including Speedy Boarding and the train fare it was about a third of the price and I'd choose an A319 in preference to an ERJ-145 anytime.

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Tue Oct 18, 2011 10:45 pm

Quoting shufflemoomin (Reply 15):

Now that BMI doesn't fly this route, what option does Star Alliance have for connecting passengers in LHR from GLA?

Not really necessary to go through LHR, GLA-FRA suffices for most connections. US for N.America
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Tue Oct 18, 2011 10:55 pm

Quoting EDICHC (Reply 41):
Not really necessary to go through LHR, GLA-FRA suffices for most connections. US for N.America

It doesn't work for me. I don't want to fly more than an hour east to end up flying west again. I'd much rather go through LHR. I've booked with United Vacations in the past and they deal exclusively with Star Alliance, as you would expect. I wonder what places like that do now if you live in Scotland and book a vacation with them. I assume they would just use BA?
 
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Tue Oct 18, 2011 11:21 pm

Quoting planejamie (Reply 35):
Thank-you, I might just plan such a trip MAN-LHR-GLS (got it right!) -LHR-MAN

Umm, unless you meant Galveston, Texas, USA, I'm not sure you did...
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Tue Oct 18, 2011 11:35 pm

Quoting shufflemoomin (Reply 42):
I'd much rather go through LHR.

Why?????????? Out of central Scotland there are far better options to cross the pond, even if you are restricting your self to *A. US GLA-PHL direct, UA/CO EDI-EWR direct.

Away from *A EDI/GLA via DUB to numerous US destinations all avoiding the black hole of LHR.
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Wed Oct 19, 2011 6:30 am

Quoting shufflemoomin (Reply 42):
I'd much rather go through LHR.

With the option of UA/CO from EDI & GLA, along with US from GLA I'm not sure why you would. I've connected through AMS for example many times to fly transatlantic.

I will admit that there always was something about travelling through LHR however, that just made me want to. Probably stems back from being a child up on the viewing terrace.
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RE: BA Adds 4,000 Seats A Week To LHR-GLA

Wed Oct 19, 2011 6:35 am

Quoting EDICHC (Reply 41):
Not really necessary to go through LHR, GLA-FRA suffices for most connections. US for N.America

LH dont fly GLA-FRA, they do however fly EDI-FRA, and soon ABZ-FRA
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RE: BA Adds 4,000 Seats A Week To LHR-GLA

Wed Oct 19, 2011 6:40 am

Quoting EDICHC (Reply 44):
Why?????????? Out of central Scotland there are far better options to cross the pond, even if you are restricting your self to *A. US GLA-PHL direct, UA/CO EDI-EWR direct.

To be honest, I don't consider a 757 across the pond a 'far better option'.

Quoting Gingersnap (Reply 45):
I've connected through AMS for example many times to fly transatlantic.

Again, I don't want to fly east to have to fly west again.
 
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RE: BA Adds 4,000 Seats A Week To LHR-GLA

Wed Oct 19, 2011 7:39 am

Using US GLA-PHL is only useful for conmections when it operates in the summer months.......
 
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RE: BA Adds 4,000 Seats A Week To LHR-GLA

Wed Oct 19, 2011 8:27 am

Quoting BA174 (Reply 20):

Time wise air travel is still very much an option on LON-GLA....

The fastest Pendolino times from Euston to Central are still over 4 hours on the fastest 2 stop services, and, as previously mentioned, many do not like the Pendolino trains (the service on board is great in first class, but trains are cramped, even in first, & the air con has a habit of breaking down). Fares on the West Coast route are also creeping up as there is now only one very slow train daily between Central & Kings Cross on the East Coast route cutting competition further.

Had the Glasgow Airport Rail Link have been built to completeion then air travel would have been even faster.
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