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Air Berlin To Launch Berlin-Los Angeles In S12

Tue Oct 18, 2011 12:14 pm

3 times per week from S12.

They will also increase JFK-Berlin from 4 to 7xw

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air Berlin continues to develop its long-distance offer starting from Berlin to North America: With beginning of the summer flight plan in May 2012 of Germany starts for the first time second largest airline nonstop from Berlin to Los Angeles and connects the German capital three times weekly with the west coast of the USA. Thus air Berlin is the only airline, which operates nonstop between Berlin and Los Angeles. At the same time air Berlin increases the number of its flights from Berlin to New York. Instead of four times per week „ the Big Apple can be attained “ starting from May 2012 daily.

full press release

http://98.139.168.220/babelfish/tran...es_dr.php%3fLANG%3ddeu%26ID%3d3868
 
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RE: Air Berlin To Launch Berlin-Los Angeles In S12

Tue Oct 18, 2011 12:20 pm

I hope they can make money on this route... does this mean they reduce long haul connections from DUS, where LH is expanding?
 
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RE: Air Berlin To Launch Berlin-Los Angeles In S12

Tue Oct 18, 2011 12:22 pm

So, AB in S12 will fly to the following destinations in USA/Canada :

Vancouver (DUS)
Fort Myers (DUS)
Miami (BER, DUS)
Los Angeles (BER, DUS)
San Francisco (DUS)
New York (BER, DUS)

Does anyone see the potential for more points to be added?
Toronto? Chicago? Boston?
 
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RE: Air Berlin To Launch Berlin-Los Angeles In S12

Tue Oct 18, 2011 12:28 pm

Quoting LIPZ (Reply 2):

Does anyone see the potential for more points to be added?
Toronto? Chicago? Boston?

Not without a change to their business model. LA, New York and Miami are the three highest-demand markets from Germany to the U.S., and nothing comes close except San Francisco. They are still a leisure airline at heart, and rely on that traffic. They need to develop a more traditional hub/spoke model and introduce a stronger business product before making smaller demand leisure markets like Boston or Chicago work. Adding Anchorage, or returning to Las Vegas or Orlando, makes much more sense than Boston or Chicago.
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RE: Air Berlin To Launch Berlin-Los Angeles In S12

Tue Oct 18, 2011 12:38 pm

Considering the May start date, would this route initially be TXL-LAX or BER-LAX?
 
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RE: Air Berlin To Launch Berlin-Los Angeles In S12

Tue Oct 18, 2011 12:53 pm

With the introduction of this new flight to Berlin LAX will get another direct service to another point in Europe.

As it should look like next summer LAX-Europe (+Turkey/Israel)


- Amsterdam (KLM, Arkefly)
- Berlin (Air Berlin)
- Dusseldorf (Air Berlin)
- Frankfurt (Lufthansa)
- Istanbul (Turkish Airlines)
- London (Air New Zealand, American Airlines, British Airways, United Arlines, Virgin Atlantic)
- Madrid (Iberia)
- Moscow (Aeroflot)
- Munich (Lufthansa)
- Paris (Air France, Air Tahiti Nui)
- Rome (Alitalia)
- Tel Aviv (EL AL)
- Zurich (Swiss)


It's a pity that not long ago Aer Lingus dropped LAX.

[Edited 2011-10-18 05:53:38]
 
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RE: Air Berlin To Launch Berlin-Los Angeles In S12

Tue Oct 18, 2011 1:49 pm

Quoting BNAOWB (Reply 4):

TXL. BER won't operate untill early june.
 
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RE: Air Berlin To Launch Berlin-Los Angeles In S12

Tue Oct 18, 2011 1:57 pm

This is really good news for Berlin. I understand that the city has had trouble attracting major businesses and industries in part because of the lack of non-stop long haul flights. I hope AB is able to make the flights work and eventually increase service. It would be great to see them serve SFO from BER as well.

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RE: Air Berlin To Launch Berlin-Los Angeles In S12

Tue Oct 18, 2011 2:03 pm

Quoting MAH4546 (Reply 3):
Not without a change to their business model.

IMHO, the new BER airport will change AB's business model naturally thanks to the consolodation of 'hubbing potential.' New routes, with lower p2p O&D, will become viable thanks to the connecting traffic. Not to mention AB is joining OW and a saturated LHR will provide some 'natural feed.'

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RE: Air Berlin To Launch Berlin-Los Angeles In S12

Tue Oct 18, 2011 2:24 pm

Does this mean airBerlin will fly to California altogether 7x weekly, DUS-SFO and BER-LAX? Will AB use the current airbus economy seat configuration at 30" pitch for the 10-11 hour flights? What about in-flight entertainment?
 
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RE: Air Berlin To Launch Berlin-Los Angeles In S12

Tue Oct 18, 2011 3:30 pm

Does anybody know from which routes the aircraft for the new flights and the additional flights to JFK are coming?
 
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RE: Air Berlin To Launch Berlin-Los Angeles In S12

Wed Oct 19, 2011 3:22 am

Quoting frat (Reply 10):
Does anybody know from which routes the aircraft for the new flights and the additional flights to JFK are coming?


The first Boeing 787 in airberlin livery is planned to be delivered to the airline in April 2014, but with the Chinese cancellation and possibly AI cancelation, they could negotiate for some early frames as some production slots open up. I guess that goes for other airlines as well, but I think it could be a possibility to say snatch 2 frames early. Short of the 787's, I would say it would be a leased A330 if needed.

[Edited 2011-10-18 20:26:16]
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RE: Air Berlin To Launch Berlin-Los Angeles In S12

Wed Oct 19, 2011 3:33 am

Quoting lindy field (Reply 7):
I understand that the city has had trouble attracting major businesses and industries in part because of the lack of non-stop long haul flights.

It's actually the other way round: Since the greater Berlin area is not very attractive for major businesses and industries, there are only very, very few airlines operating long-haul from either TXL or SXF.
 
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RE: Air Berlin To Launch Berlin-Los Angeles In S12

Wed Oct 19, 2011 3:37 am

How will AirBerlin build up its relationships with OneWorld carriers? From Asia and Australasia, Cathay and Qantas operate into FRA (subject to curfew). As an AirBerlin hub, BER would make a lot of sense for both CX and QF.

There would be good connections between the AirBerlin network and Qantas if AirBerlin would do Berlin to Singapore, or if AirBerlin thinks of itself as more of a leisure carrier, perhaps Jetstar will be the airline to work with.
 
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RE: Air Berlin To Launch Berlin-Los Angeles In S12

Wed Oct 19, 2011 3:46 am

Quoting LIPZ (Reply 5):
It's a pity that not long ago Aer Lingus dropped LAX.

They will possibly be returning for 2013.
 
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RE: Air Berlin To Launch Berlin-Los Angeles In S12

Wed Oct 19, 2011 4:04 am

Quoting alangirvan (Reply 13):
How will AirBerlin build up its relationships with OneWorld carriers?

This is what many people in the industry have asked eversince AB announced they will join OneWorld. Their hubs are TXL, NUE and STR in Germany, PMI, STN and LGW. Almost none of these airports gets fed by any other OneWorld carrier.
AB will not be able to obtain any slots in LHR for obvious reasons and FRA - well, they have not applied in a big scale for new slots recently.

IMO, joining OneWorld was another deperate attempt of ex-CEO Joachim Hunold to make money with AB - but I guess it will utterly fail, just as all the other attempts before (like competing with LH on FRA-HAM routes).
 
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RE: Air Berlin To Launch Berlin-Los Angeles In S12

Wed Oct 19, 2011 8:19 am

Quoting alangirvan (Reply 13):
How will AirBerlin build up its relationships with OneWorld carriers?

AB have already signed a code-share agreement with AA to complement their TALT routes (and also Finnair).
http://www.airberlin.com/site/pressnews_dr.php?ID=2278&LANG=eng
Recently when looking for a flight to MAD, once of the options showing was a combined AB-IB ticket.

There's still a lot of work to be done, but integration with OW is the only hope for AB to survive. Maybe OW carriers should start thinking out of the box a bit and flying more to DUS & BER instead of Star fortress hubs like FRA.

Quoting 1979AirBuzz (Reply 12):

It's actually the other way round: Since the greater Berlin area is not very attractive for major businesses and industries, there are only very, very few airlines operating long-haul from either TXL or SXF.

Yes, but the conditions for long-haul flights don't exist either. SXF is a low-cost carrier airport in every sense, and TXL is saturated and not built for connecting traffic, let alone a hub operation with short-haul feed. With the new BER, the conditions to enable long-haul flights will be created for the first time. Today, with or without interest from business, these conditions do not exist.
 
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RE: Air Berlin To Launch Berlin-Los Angeles In S12

Wed Oct 19, 2011 10:12 am

Quoting LIPZ (Reply 2):
Vancouver (DUS)
Fort Myers (DUS)
Miami (BER, DUS)
Los Angeles (BER, DUS)
San Francisco (DUS)
New York (BER, DUS)

What happened to Vegas?
 
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RE: Air Berlin To Launch Berlin-Los Angeles In S12

Wed Oct 19, 2011 10:20 am

Quoting fpetrutiu (Reply 11):
The first Boeing 787 in airberlin livery is planned to be delivered to the airline in April 2014

- I thought these were cancelled some time ago?
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RE: Air Berlin To Launch Berlin-Los Angeles In S12

Wed Oct 19, 2011 10:23 am

Quoting ba319-131 (Reply 18):
- I thought these were cancelled some time ago?

Half of them, not all.
 
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RE: Air Berlin To Launch Berlin-Los Angeles In S12

Wed Oct 19, 2011 11:33 am

Quoting r2rho (Reply 16):
There's still a lot of work to be done, but integration with OW is the only hope for AB to survive. Maybe OW carriers should start thinking out of the box a bit and flying more to DUS & BER instead of Star fortress hubs like FRA.

BA is assisting AB's entry into OW.
BA flies to both AB hubs at DUS and TXL so I assume TXL will move over to BER when it opens.
AB could code share on BA and there you have access to LHR. Plus AB operate out of LGW so there's access to another BA hub.

Could we see a closer integration or investment of AB into IAG? If so, and if IAG buys up BD for it's LHR slots then perhaps a few of those could be utilised by AB (if it were an IAG airline).

I'm sure we'll see other OW members working with AB out of the new BER very soon.

What about a code share with BE to link regional UK routes to the new BER hub?
 
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RE: Air Berlin To Launch Berlin-Los Angeles In S12

Wed Oct 19, 2011 11:51 am

Quoting MAH4546 (Reply 3):
Not without a change to their business model.

They are just overhauling the business class and economy class on their longhaul fleet. It's actually madatory for the Oneworld entry  
Quoting frat (Reply 10):
Does anybody know from which routes the aircraft for the new flights and the additional flights to JFK are coming?

AB just acquired two ex-Swiss A330's  
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RE: Air Berlin To Launch Berlin-Los Angeles In S12

Wed Oct 19, 2011 7:53 pm

Quoting ba319-131 (Reply 18):
I thought these were cancelled some time ago?

10 out of 25 were cancelled, 5 options kept. Currently on order are 15 firm + 5 options.

http://www.flightglobal.com/news/art...s-orders-for-up-to-15-787s-339515/
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RE: Air Berlin To Launch Berlin-Los Angeles In S12

Thu Oct 20, 2011 2:01 am

Air Berlin will also add a third weekly frequency on SFODUS (operates Monday) and a fifth weekly on MIADUS (operates Saturday; total MIA service will be 8w, with DUS and BER overlapping on Saturdays).
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RE: Air Berlin To Launch Berlin-Los Angeles In S12

Thu Oct 20, 2011 3:13 am

I'm hoping that AA will announce ORD-BER for S12, but that would reverse the direction they seem to be heading on ORD-Europe. One can dream, though.
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RE: Air Berlin To Launch Berlin-Los Angeles In S12

Thu Oct 20, 2011 4:59 am

Quoting FSDan (Reply 24):
I'm hoping that AA will announce ORD-BER for S12, but that would reverse the direction they seem to be heading on ORD-Europe. One can dream, though.

One can dream indeed. Realistically, with AB's anticipated BER hub and entrance into OW, It would be insane for them to not to fly there. AA is and has been the weakest U.S. carrier to Germany, so I think seeing AA in BER would be good for AA, AB and OW. JFK is already covered by AB so ORD-BER seems natural (would DFW be better?). If AA doesn't announce BER for the summer, I've lost all hope for them (I don't want to start bashing them in this thread, so I'll stop here). Show us some signs of life, grow a pair and fly to BER.
 
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RE: Air Berlin To Launch Berlin-Los Angeles In S12

Thu Oct 20, 2011 5:42 am

If United does not beat them to BER.  
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RE: Air Berlin To Launch Berlin-Los Angeles In S12

Thu Oct 20, 2011 3:15 pm

Quoting 1979AirBuzz (Reply 15):
none of these airports gets fed by any other OneWorld carrier

So what other major alliances would have been a better choice, in this respect . . .      
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RE: Air Berlin To Launch Berlin-Los Angeles In S12

Thu Oct 20, 2011 5:56 pm

Quoting 1979AirBuzz (Reply 15):
Their hubs are TXL, NUE and STR in Germany, PMI, STN and LGW. Almost none of these airports gets fed by any other OneWorld carrier.

Since when are STR, STN and LGW hubs for AB? NUE and PMI are mainly leisure, so the hubs that will be relevant in the log term are BER, DUS and VIE.
 
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RE: Air Berlin To Launch Berlin-Los Angeles In S12

Fri Oct 21, 2011 3:19 am

Quoting dazeflight (Reply 28):
Since when are STR, STN and LGW hubs for AB? NUE and PMI are mainly leisure, so the hubs that will be relevant in the log term are BER, DUS and VIE.

If you look at how many operations AB has per day at PMI and that they connect passengers via PMI to several Spanish, UK and other locations, this is what made me comment it is one of their hubs.
If you have a better definition of hub - let me know. I am dying to learn from your wisdom!!!
 
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RE: Air Berlin To Launch Berlin-Los Angeles In S12

Fri Oct 21, 2011 4:54 am

Quoting r2rho (Reply 16):
Yes, but the conditions for long-haul flights don't exist either. SXF is a low-cost carrier airport in every sense, and TXL is saturated and not built for connecting traffic, let alone a hub operation with short-haul feed. With the new BER, the conditions to enable long-haul flights will be created for the first time.

100% agree. Only with the new airport is there a chance for a hubbing operation.

Without hubbing, O&D has to pay for all of the seats. With hubbing, some fraction is paid for with feed. It is a chicken and egg scenario. Business will be stimulated by flight connections which will increase the flights....

Quoting PW100 (Reply 27):
So what other major alliances would have been a better choice, in this respect . . .

Nice logic. I agree. OW gains having AB as a partner and AB gains from OW. It will be interesting to see how AB is integrated into OW considering the BA/IB merger. It will increase yield for AB. I'm just stumped on how the other OW partners will tie in...

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RE: Air Berlin To Launch Berlin-Los Angeles In S12

Fri Oct 21, 2011 9:57 am

Quoting 1979AirBuzz (Reply 29):
If you look at how many operations AB has per day at PMI and that they connect passengers via PMI to several Spanish, UK and other locations, this is what made me comment it is one of their hubs.
If you have a better definition of hub - let me know. I am dying to learn from your wisdom!!!

Spare me the jokes and rather explain why STR, LGW and STN are hubs? Further, I did not state that NUE and PMI don't have any hubbing operations, I merely pointed out that both are mostly leisure oriented and won't have a big future in a fully OW-integrated AB. Serious hubs will be BER, DUS and VIE, I don't think there's a doubt about it.
 
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RE: Air Berlin To Launch Berlin-Los Angeles In S12

Fri Oct 21, 2011 10:02 am

Quoting dazeflight (Reply 28):
NUE and PMI are mainly leisure, so the hubs that will be relevant in the log term are BER, DUS and VIE.

Air Berlin would beg to differ on PMI. PMI, along with BER/DUS/VIE with be the focus for expansion
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RE: Air Berlin To Launch Berlin-Los Angeles In S12

Fri Oct 21, 2011 10:42 am

^ Shape and size is a short-term programm to bring back the benefits. It will be very difficult for AB to keep the leisure oriented part when it's fully integrated into oneworld. Even if PMI will be kept, long-term growth will happen at the other hubs.
 
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RE: Air Berlin To Launch Berlin-Los Angeles In S12

Fri Oct 21, 2011 3:02 pm

Quoting dazeflight (Reply 33):
Shape and size is a short-term programm to bring back the benefits. It will be very difficult for AB to keep the leisure oriented part when it's fully integrated into oneworld. Even if PMI will be kept, long-term growth will happen at the other hubs.

Considering that the leisure ops via PMI are currently the only little moneymaker for AB whereas they lose gazillions of money with each "business" flight, your statement is a joke!
If AB can't survive alone, I decline to agree that entering OW and axing the only profitable routes will be their shelter
 
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RE: Air Berlin To Launch Berlin-Los Angeles In S12

Fri Oct 21, 2011 3:23 pm

Would love to see you coming East for Hong Kong  
 
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RE: Air Berlin To Launch Berlin-Los Angeles In S12

Fri Oct 21, 2011 4:26 pm

Quoting 1979AirBuzz (Reply 34):
Considering that the leisure ops via PMI are currently the only little moneymaker for AB whereas they lose gazillions of money with each "business" flight, your statement is a joke!
If AB can't survive alone, I decline to agree that entering OW and axing the only profitable routes will be their shelter

I guess that's why size and shape axed quite a few destinations and frequencies at the PMI-hub while the TXL and VIE, dominated by "money-losing business flights", still get frequencies and destinations added. PMI exists only to distribute passengers to spanish airports, of which most are served already. Care to explain where future growth should come from?

And yet again, you're pretty quite regarding that ridiculous statement of yours calling STR, LGW and STN AB hubs. I guess that means you took a few minutes to inform yourself about the topic at hand.
 
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RE: Air Berlin To Launch Berlin-Los Angeles In S12

Fri Oct 21, 2011 4:33 pm

Quoting dazeflight (Reply 36):
I guess that's why size and shape axed quite a few destinations and frequencies at the PMI-hub while the TXL and VIE, dominated by "money-losing business flights", still get frequencies and destinations added.

Let's see if that will help and AB will be profitable for the first time since...ahemm: founding date of the company
 
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RE: Air Berlin To Launch Berlin-Los Angeles In S12

Fri Oct 21, 2011 4:42 pm

Quoting lightsaber (Reply 30):
I'm just stumped on how the other OW partners will tie in...

I'm in no way an expert on the workings of alliances but that won't keep me from adding my 2cents....

1) AB and AA work together to strengthen their TATL ties. AB already flies to two major AA hubs; JFK & MIA which gives them access to most of the Eastern US and tons of Caribbean / South American destinations. Also AB offers a lot of "second" tier destinations which may not be available through LHR. AA could start ORD-DUS but they would be going up agains LH/UA, not sure if they're brave enough for that. What about AA in LAX? Do they offer any decent connections to coincide with AB?

2) AB & IB work together for destinations in South America. IB's presence there is very extensive. Close cooperation would allow AB pax to choose between going through the US or MAD.

3) AB & OY as far as I know already code share on OY's flights to Asia.

So right there are 3 major OW members already tied together with AB.

Again just some thought from a novice.
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RE: Air Berlin To Launch Berlin-Los Angeles In S12

Fri Oct 21, 2011 5:14 pm

Quoting 1979AirBuzz (Reply 37):
Let's see if that will help and AB will be profitable for the first time since...ahemm: founding date of the company

#fail

AB must have been founded in 2007 then, because that is the last time they were profitable: Air Berlin plc financial statements 2007

You should try to grow up and argue with facts and sources instead of beliefs.
 
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RE: Air Berlin To Launch Berlin-Los Angeles In S12

Fri Oct 21, 2011 6:02 pm

Quoting G500 (Reply 17):
What happened to Vegas?

AB never flew to Vegas.
DE is/was flying there from FRA

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