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BA World Cargo 748f Taxi Test Video

Fri Oct 21, 2011 8:42 am

Matt Cawsby haqs posted a video of G-GSSD making a taxi teston 20 October in preparation for its first flight:

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It should be delivered late this month or at the very begining of November. I heard that its first revenue flight might be on 2 November if test flights are OK.
 
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RE: BA World Cargo 748f Taxi Test Video

Fri Oct 21, 2011 10:39 am

I never fail to be stunned when I think of everything that goes into constructing an aircraft like that, to get everything together and up and running and how quickly they can do it. On a related note, it looks beautiful.
 
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Fri Oct 21, 2011 11:09 am

Great video, the 748-F looks stunning in BA's colours, shame there is no place for the -I in the mainline fleet.
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RE: BA World Cargo 748f Taxi Test Video

Fri Oct 21, 2011 6:48 pm

Man, that's a good looking airplane! Thanks!
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RE: BA World Cargo 748f Taxi Test Video

Fri Oct 21, 2011 9:44 pm

Wow! That is one looong plane.

I didn't know they were adding the "World Cargo" back onto the livery.. looks good (though I am disappointed at the lack of a crest).

Quoting shufflemoomin (Reply 1):

I never fail to be stunned when I think of everything that goes into constructing an aircraft like that, to get everything together and up and running and how quickly they can do it. On a related note, it looks beautiful.

+1 It's one of the many reasons I admire aviation.. everything works in perfect synchronization.
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RE: BA World Cargo 748f Taxi Test Video

Fri Oct 21, 2011 10:15 pm

Quoting ba319-131 (Reply 2):
the 748-F looks stunning in BA's colours, shame there is no place for the -I in the mainline fleet.

I agree completely!!! Maybe time will tell. We can always hope......
 
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RE: BA World Cargo 748f Taxi Test Video

Sat Oct 22, 2011 2:07 am

Is it me or is the BA union flag tail paint job slightly different than the pax 744 aircraft. The angle of the flag on the tail looks different to me having seen a million of the 744.
 
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RE: BA World Cargo 748f Taxi Test Video

Sat Oct 22, 2011 8:03 am

Quoting N93109 (Reply 6):

Is it me or is the BA union flag tail paint job slightly different than the pax 744 aircraft. The angle of the flag on the tail looks different to me having seen a million of the 744.

There was a thread about this a few weeks ago, there was a reason for it, but I can't actually remember.. But I agree, it does look strange.
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RE: BA World Cargo 748f Taxi Test Video

Sat Oct 22, 2011 8:40 am

There was no reason for it, just a slight update to design fleetwide or maybe just the 747 fleet.
 
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RE: BA World Cargo 748f Taxi Test Video

Sun Oct 23, 2011 10:20 am

What a beautiful looking aircraft, I hope airlines start buying this jet and keep ther 747 flying .
 
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RE: BA World Cargo 748f Taxi Test Video

Sun Oct 23, 2011 12:32 pm

Quoting 777way (Reply 8):
There was no reason for it, just a slight update to design fleetwide or maybe just the 747 fleet.

Anyone know when we can expect to see the updated tail on the first passenger aircraft?
 
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RE: BA World Cargo 748f Taxi Test Video

Mon Oct 24, 2011 12:23 pm

Quoting ghifty (Reply 4):
I didn't know they were adding the "World Cargo" back onto the livery..

It was part of the lease agreement that the new aircraft would operate under the British Airways full branding for a period of 5 years.

Quoting N93109 (Reply 6):
Is it me or is the BA union flag tail paint job slightly different than the pax 744 aircraft.

I believe this was due to the NEW positioning of the stabilizer therefore the Union flag has been adjusted...

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RE: BA World Cargo 748f Taxi Test Video

Mon Oct 24, 2011 12:44 pm

Quoting N93109 (Reply 6):
Is it me or is the BA union flag tail paint job slightly different than the pax 744 aircraft.
Quoting EK413 (Reply 11):
I believe this was due to the NEW positioning of the stabilizer therefore the Union flag has been adjusted...

My guess is that this is correct. Passenger 744 G-BNLU was recently (27 September) rolled out at LHR after repainting:


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RE: BA World Cargo 748f Taxi Test Video

Mon Oct 24, 2011 12:53 pm

Quoting VV701 (Reply 12):
My guess is that this is correct. Passenger 744 G-BNLU was recently (27 September) rolled out at LHR after repainting:

The tail on BNLU looks the same as previously, if I'm not mistaken... not like the one on the 748
 
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RE: BA World Cargo 748f Taxi Test Video

Mon Oct 24, 2011 12:55 pm

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Mon Oct 24, 2011 1:13 pm

just curious that as this has a short upper deck, does it have a spiral staircase as per the 100/200?
 
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RE: BA World Cargo 748f Taxi Test Video

Mon Oct 24, 2011 4:56 pm

Quoting JACK02116 (Reply 15):
just curious that as this has a short upper deck, does it have a spiral staircase as per the 100/200?

It's a freighter...it's got a foldable ladder rather than a staircase.

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RE: BA World Cargo 748f Taxi Test Video

Tue Oct 25, 2011 7:52 am

Quoting Vasu (Reply 13):

Its the same currnt design not the new one, I doubt stabiliser change can cause design alteration so that dosent make sense.
 
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RE: BA World Cargo 748f Taxi Test Video

Tue Oct 25, 2011 11:04 am

Answers here :

PICTURE: BA World Cargo 747-8F (by blackwidow Oct 4 2011 in Civil Aviation)

Rumored BA Livery Change? (by G-CIVP Sep 21 2011 in Civil Aviation)
 
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RE: BA World Cargo 748f Taxi Test Video

Tue Oct 25, 2011 11:07 am

Quoting 777way (Reply 17):
Its the same currnt design not the new one, I doubt stabiliser change can cause design alteration so that dosent make sense.

I guess that we will have to wait and see. If this is a purposeful change in tail livery not impacted by other practical consideration it also makes no sense at all.

BA 748F G-GSSD was first pictured on the Boeing flight line at PAE on 30 September wearing the "new" tail livery.

Meanwhile 744 G-BNLU had been rolled out of BA's own paint shop at LHR on 27 September. It was resplendent in the "old" version of the tail livery. But it was wearing the modified version of the BA fuselage livery. This incorporates for the first time the BA "To Fly. To Serve" herealdic crest after the main titles. This is the crest that featured on the tail as part of the Landor livery. This revised fuselage livery will eventually be worn by the whole BA fleet:


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RE: BA World Cargo 748f Taxi Test Video

Tue Oct 25, 2011 11:39 am

Quoting VV701 (Reply 19):
This is the crest that featured on the tail as part of the Landor livery. This revised fuselage livery will eventually be worn by the whole BA fleet:

I suspect it won't, I know it's the stated intention, but looking at in real life, hmmmmm. It jars with the rest of the livery.
 
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RE: BA World Cargo 748f Taxi Test Video

Tue Oct 25, 2011 3:42 pm

Quoting skipness1E (Reply 20):

Exactly, more so where its placed, near the cockpit or nose section would be better, I tried both on the above pic and they look much better, but cant post image here as this site does not allow its photos to be modified, though everyone is doing so at aviation-design site.

As for the tail, has the aircraft been painted fully as in after D check? sometimes they just repaint them in parts, like some SQ birds had big title on old livery, or new tail with old titles.

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RE: BA World Cargo 748f Taxi Test Video

Tue Oct 25, 2011 4:38 pm

Not sure but it's been in desert storage for a long time so it would have faded badly in the sun if they didn't.
 
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RE: BA World Cargo 748f Taxi Test Video

Tue Oct 25, 2011 7:49 pm

Quoting 777way (Reply 21):
As for the tail, has the aircraft been painted fully as in after D check?

I cannot be totally sure. But there are a significant number of indicators that it has been completely repainted.

First have another look at the aircraft as it is today:


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Then remember that this aircraft spent many months parked up in the Southern California desert at VCV until it arrived back at CWL on 31 March this year. Does it look as if it has been in the desert for a prolonged period? I do not think so.

When it was with British Airways Maintenance Cardiff at CWL it is known to have undergone major maintenance - a 'D' Check - as well as having the new BA F Class cabin fitted. On completion of this work it was ferried to LHR on 8 July and returned to service.

It continued to operate out of LHR until it completed a rotation to JFK (BA113/16) on 12 September. It did not fly again until after it was rolled out at LHR on 30 September carrying the 'To Fly. To Serve' heraldic crest and 'Dreamflight 25' titles.

If you compare this photo taken while it was parked at VCV with the picture above:


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note that in the photo taken at VCV there are vertical red alignment marks below the each side of the cabin door. On the latest photo these two lines that are adjacent to the blue painted area are still present. However there is now a third line adjacent to the forward end of the base of the door that was not there before. It also seems to me that the positioning of the 'Speedmarque' with reference to both the top of the cabin door and to the aft end upper cabin windows is very slightly different.

If you look at any photos in the data base taken before September of this year you will see that this aircraft has the abbreviated registration 'LU' painted on the top rear tail. But in the latest photo it has 'NLU' painted in the same position instead.

Finally BA has announced that it plans to add the heraldic crest to all its aircraft as they are repainted. This very strongly suggests that G-BNLU has indeed been repainted. This would also explain why it was out-of-service at LHR from 12 to 30 September when BA carries out all major maintenance on all its wide-bodied aircraft at CWL, but paints and repaints all its aircraft at LHR.
 
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RE: BA World Cargo 748f Taxi Test Video

Tue Oct 25, 2011 9:34 pm

Ah! If it has the last three on the fin, it's been resprayed. Policy is to have the last three on the fin rather than the traditional last two, the Airbus A319 fleet has almost been completed and the A320s are now being done. Indeed the latest B777-236ERs were delivered with the last three on the fin. Except that the new B777-300ERs have only the last two like every recent delivery from Toulouse, including G-EUYM, consistently inconsistent!