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Are There Any US Planes With Reg. #'s On The Wings

Sun Oct 23, 2011 1:36 pm

Just a random question here. Looks like most international carrier aircraft have there numbers on either above, below or both on the wings but I personally never seen it on a US carrier planes wings. My airline doesn't have it and just wanted to know if there any that do and if it is none why is that? I'm talking about commercial only aircraft.

Thanks in advance.

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RE: Are There Any US Planes With Reg. #'s On The Wings

Sun Oct 23, 2011 2:12 pm

In many countries, their aviation regulations require that registration (and sometimes even the airline name) on the wings. I'm not sure when the regulation was changed here in the US (or if it was required at all), but airlines in the US did previously have the registration (and airline name) on their wings. It appears this practice ended sometime in the 1950s, but a/c retained them for some time until they were repainted. Some examples:


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RE: Are There Any US Planes With Reg. #'s On The Wings

Sun Oct 23, 2011 3:40 pm

It's not a requirment in the USA, but if you have the paint and own the airplane, feel free to decorate it as you see fit.
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RE: Are There Any US Planes With Reg. #'s On The Wings

Sun Oct 23, 2011 4:38 pm

Can't speak for other countries, but the CARs here in Canada say that for fixed wing aircraft the registration on the wings is completely optional.

However, it does say that with the registration painted only on the fuselage/tail area the letters must be at least 30cm high, but if one also paints it on the underside of the left wing (letters here must be at least 50cm high) then the fuselage letters only need to be 15cm high. Sometimes this helps to clean up a paint scheme, specially on smaller aircraft where the 30cm lettering on the side of the airplane starts to look a little out of proportion.

For those of you who care (which I doubt there are very many of), this comes from Canadian Aviation Regulations, Part 2, Standard 222. http://www.tc.gc.ca/eng/civilaviatio.../cars/part2-standards-222-1005.htm



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RE: Are There Any US Planes With Reg. #'s On The Wings

Sun Oct 23, 2011 4:53 pm

The large wing numbers were phased out beginning in 1958 in the U.S. None of the 707s, DC-8s, Electras and Convair 880s delivered to the airlines had them. The prototypes of the above all did. For the airliners that did have them, they were mostly gone by the early 1960s. The FAA required 12 high fuselage numbers on small civil aircraft by January 1, 1962. For some strange reason UAL painted the 12 inch numbers on the piston fleet and the Viscounts.

Today, if your aircraft was delivered with the wing numbers you can still have them. My 1957 Cessna 172 is restored to original and features the 20 inch high wing numbers.
 
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RE: Are There Any US Planes With Reg. #'s On The Wings

Sun Oct 23, 2011 10:18 pm

Very interesting. Thank you all for the info.
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RE: Are There Any US Planes With Reg. #'s On The Wings

Mon Oct 24, 2011 3:33 am

I have also noticed, that many foreign countries that had the wing registration requirement, seem to be phasing out this practice, particularly in Europe and Asia. Perhaps, as time goes on, less and less countries feel it is necessary.

On a side note, it is interesting to note, many recent Aeromexico MD-80 types flew w/ "N" numbers on their wings, when they were leased from U.S. lessors. This coincided w/ Mexican wing registration requirements, but I also think Mexico, may also be doing away with this.
 
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RE: Are There Any US Planes With Reg. #'s On The Wings

Mon Oct 24, 2011 3:52 pm

I can remember flying on Trans World in the late 60s and seeing the letters TWA on the wings. IIRC, this was on a 707, but I don't think the 727s had letters on their wings.

I also seem to recall that when AA had the lightning bolt scheme, I seem to recall that 707s and CV-990s had their ailerons painted in AA's orange/red.
 
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RE: Are There Any US Planes With Reg. #'s On The Wings

Mon Oct 24, 2011 5:38 pm

Quoting crownvic (Reply 6):
I have also noticed, that many foreign countries that had the wing registration requirement, seem to be phasing out this practice, particularly in Europe and Asia.

I love this flying Asian carriers, I didn't realize they were phasing it out!



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RE: Are There Any US Planes With Reg. #'s On The Wings

Mon Oct 24, 2011 7:58 pm

I have always liked seeing the registration of the aircraft I am on - to boot, I agree:

Quoting spacecadet (Reply 8):
Impossible to forget which airplanes you've flown on!

I also appreciate the additional registration under the wing when I am photographing aircraft - most foreign planes are much easier to identify that way.

Having had the good fortune to ride the EAA Tri-Motor, I haven't forgotten the registration of that aircraft:

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