EDTrauma
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In Memoriam, American Eagle 4184

Tue Nov 01, 2011 2:03 am

Just a pause in memory of my friend, Jeff Gagliano, and his crew and passengers who left this world in tragedy 17 years ago tonight. You will always be loved and remembered.

[Edited 2011-10-31 19:12:57]
 
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RE: In Memoriam, American Eagle 4184

Tue Nov 01, 2011 2:23 am

RIP to all aboard.   
Ironically I have never flown a Delta MD-90 :)
 
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RE: In Memoriam, American Eagle 4184

Tue Nov 01, 2011 2:27 am

Quoting DeltaMD90 (Reply 1):
RIP to all aboard.

Thank you for remembering with me.
 
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RE: In Memoriam, American Eagle 4184

Tue Nov 01, 2011 2:31 am

May they rest in peace. A few of the passengers were traveling to meet with me and others in Frankfurt.
Early in the morning in Europe we received the dreadful news.
A painful memory of lives lost because of bureaucratic incompetence.
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RE: In Memoriam, American Eagle 4184

Tue Nov 01, 2011 2:54 am

A real tragedy indeed. It's hard to believe it's been so long - this was the first aviation disaster for which I can vividly remember the immediate aftermath and media coverage. My thoughts continue to be with all those involved.
 
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RE: In Memoriam, American Eagle 4184

Tue Nov 01, 2011 2:57 am

Quoting SKGSJULAX (Reply 3):
A painful memory of lives lost because of bureaucratic incompetence.

You nailed it exactly on the head with that description.
 
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RE: In Memoriam, American Eagle 4184

Tue Nov 01, 2011 4:16 am

R.I.P. to the victims of Eagle 4184. Whenever I worked IND-ORD as a FA I always thought of them and said a little prayer. Here is a list of the victims:

AGUIAR, Orlando, 29, Round Lake, Ill. Pilot. He had logged 4,638 flight-hours since 1991, when American Eagle started computerizing its records. He joined the airline seven years ago.

GAGLIANO, Jeffrey, 30, Eagle, Wis. Co-pilot. He had logged 3,862 hours since 1991 and had worked for the airline for five years.

HOLBERG, Amanda, 23, Houston. Flight attendant. Joined the airline on Oct. 6.

MODAFF, Sandi, 27, Naperville, Ill. Flight attendant. Joined American Eagle in 1988.

PASSENGERS

ANGLEMYER, Bruce, 49, Rocky Mount, N.C.

BAILENSON, Mark, 32, Carpentersville, Ill.

BAKER, Nancy, 48, San Jose, Calif.

BEGENY, Joseph, 52, Grayslake, Ill.

BONNEAU, Peter, 37, LaChenale, Canada.

BRAMLEY, Timothy, 48, Springfield, Va.

BURRELL, Jeff, 22, Salisbury, Mass.

CALDERON, Jose V., Chicago.

CALDERON, Jose W., Chicago.

CUNNINGHAM, Richard, 51, Walton, Ind.

DeMARCO, Gino, 35, Mount Prospect, Ill.

DENNY, Rich, 38, San Jose, Calif.

DROY, John, 61, Rockford, Ill.

DWYER, Cheryl, 41, Arlington Heights, Ill.

ERNST, Kenneth Raymond.

FERRYMAN, Valerie, 44, Indianapolis.

FULLE, G. Kathleen, 47, Des Plaines, Ill.

GANONG, Jay, 52, Orange County, Calif.

GARBUTT, Ian W., 33, Hartlepool, England.

GRIFFO, Richard, 28, Elizabeth, N.J.

GRIMBERG, Adrian, 24, Colombia.

GRIMBERG, Gilda, 43, Colombia.

GRIMBERG, Sammy, 45, Colombia.

GUBA, Elizabeth A., 37, Indianapolis.

HENRY, Mrs. Pat, Glenview, Ill.

HENRY, Pat, Glenview, Ill.

JOHNSON, Peter, 48, Piedmont, Calif.

KO, Wan Suk, Seoul, Korea.

LANDES, Dave, Indianapolis.

LAROCHE, Brigitte, Granby County, Canada.

LEECH, The Rev. Ken, Preston, England.

MacDONALD, John J., 32, Carmel, Ind.

MASILO, Patricia, 42, Maseru, Lesotho.

McDAVID, Eileen, Terre Haute, Ind.

McGEE, Mrs. Jason, Bamberg, Germany.

McKAY, Elizabeth, 63, Glasgow, Scotland.

McMILLIN, Rob, Rockford, Ill.

MICHEL, Jerry, 48, Shelbyville, Ind.

MOORE, Anthony, 26, Seattle.

MORRIS, Lewise, 75, Lakeport, Fla.

NOVICHUK, Bill, 47.

PARMAR, J. S., Sutton Coldfield, England.

RAMM, Alan, Preston, England.

READING, William, 34, Bloomington, Ind.

ROBITAILLE, Serge, Granby County, Canada.

SAYLES, Javier, 14.

SHELLBERG, David, 25, Norman, Okla.

SHERIDAN, Frank.

SITHOLE, Elkin, 63, Chicago.

SJOEBERG, Eva, 77, Ramvik Harmosand, Sweden.

SJOEBERG, Svenlennart, 74, Ramvik Harmosand, Sweden.

SMITH-FIELD, Allison.

SNYDER, David A., 58, Kokomo, Ind.

SPENCER, Ken, 53.

STACKHOUSE, Bernice, 58, Tucson, Ariz.

STACKHOUSE, Dr. H. L., 61, Tucson, Ariz.

STANSBERRY, Brad, 27, Anderson, Ind.

STEIN, Maurice B., 58, Hartsdale, N.Y.

THOMAS, Jerry, Indianapolis.

THOMPSON, Dana, 27, Chicago.

TRIBBLE, Barbara, 50, Dallas.

TWEEDIE, Betty, 60, Renfrew, Scotland.

WRIGHT, Thomas H., 47, Indianapolis.
 
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RE: In Memoriam, American Eagle 4184

Tue Nov 01, 2011 4:58 pm

Quoting steex (Reply 4):

I was down the road at a halloween party. it was entirely crazy watching all the emergency crews come flying by.  

This came right after USAir 427 in Pittsburgh - made me not want to fly for a while.
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RE: In Memoriam, American Eagle 4184

Tue Nov 01, 2011 6:30 pm

Sorry for your loss, EDTrauma. I hope you have found comfort in fond memories and warm thoughts of your friend, today and always.
"We hope you've enjoyed flying with us as much as we've enjoyed taking you for a ride."
 
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RE: In Memoriam, American Eagle 4184

Tue Nov 01, 2011 7:16 pm

I saw the crew board that flight in ORD earlier that day, and I knew Orlando,Jeff and Sandy very well, good people all, talked to Jeff a few days before the crash. The aftermath of this crash is a whole other story, anyone who worked at any AA Eagle affiliate was affected by the events of that winter.
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RE: In Memoriam, American Eagle 4184

Wed Nov 02, 2011 12:22 am

Quoting EDTrauma (Thread starter):
Just a pause in memory of my friend, Jeff Gagliano, and his crew and passengers who left this world in tragedy 17 years ago tonight.

I always remember that tragic accident and the ones that were lost that night. Can't believe it has been already 17 years .... Thoughts and prayers with families and friends that lost loved ones that awful evening.

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RE: In Memoriam, American Eagle 4184

Wed Nov 02, 2011 12:54 am

Quoting EDTrauma (Thread starter):
Just a pause in memory of my friend, Jeff Gagliano, and his crew and passengers who left this world in tragedy 17 years ago tonight. You will always be loved and remembered.

Thank You for this thread.   

Watched the Airline Investigation (Nat. Geographic) on You Tube last night. Very sad indeed. Its a tragedy that the manufactorer goes after the pilots who can't speak for themselves. They fought like gangbusters to the end.

I didn't realize on an ATR that there was a snack/beverage service for such a short flight. At least as shown in this dramatization.
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RE: In Memoriam, American Eagle 4184

Wed Nov 02, 2011 1:28 am

God Bless all that were lost that night.

I cannot claim any connections to this accident but like so many others I am touched by those that can and remember.
None shall pass!!!!
 
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RE: In Memoriam, American Eagle 4184

Wed Nov 02, 2011 2:04 am

Not trying to cause any painful memories, but for those who are unfamiliar with the accident (as was I) may want to watch the Air Investigations episode on it: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7_v7YXN6GGQ
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RE: In Memoriam, American Eagle 4184

Wed Nov 02, 2011 2:13 am

Quoting zippyjet (Reply 11):
I didn't realize on an ATR that there was a snack/beverage service for such a short flight. At least as shown in this dramatization.

yes. flew the route several times back in the 90's. there was beverage/snack service Champaign to O'hare


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The crash happened on a farm right next to the one i was at on halloween. Obviously we couldn't just get by the crash site for obvious reasons but that didn't stop us the days following from getting on the roof of our friends and looking at the area through a telescope. I'll never forget looking through the telescope and seeing literally a sea of say 2,000 orange flags. At first we thought that was pieces of the plane ... then right when we were looking through them we caught a newspaper article saying it was mark to where body parts where found. Uuuuggggghhhh.......
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RE: In Memoriam, American Eagle 4184

Wed Nov 02, 2011 2:27 am

Something wonderful can come from such a tragedy. Project Morry (founded in honor of Morry Stein, passenger)

http://www.projectmorry.org/
 
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RE: In Memoriam, American Eagle 4184

Wed Nov 02, 2011 5:40 am

Quoting SKGSJULAX (Reply 3):
May they rest in peace. A few of the passengers were traveling to meet with me and others in Frankfurt.
Early in the morning in Europe we received the dreadful news.

I'm so sorry for your loss. Please know that you are not alone in your grief.

[quote=thegoldenargosy,reply=6]R.I.P. to the victims of Eagle 4184. Whenever I worked IND-ORD as a FA I always thought of them and said a little prayer. Here is a list of the victims:

Thank you for your tribute. Jeff was, and is, a good friend of mine.

Quoting UALFAson (Reply 8):
Sorry for your loss, EDTrauma. I hope you have found comfort in fond memories and warm thoughts of your friend, today and always

Many thanks, my new friend.

Quoting charlienorth (Reply 9):
I saw the crew board that flight in ORD earlier that day, and I knew Orlando,Jeff and Sandy very well, good people all, talked to Jeff a few days before the crash. The aftermath of this crash is a whole other story, anyone who worked at any AA Eagle affiliate was affected by the events of that winter.

Please message or email me if you would like. Would like to get in touch and hear more about your memories. There is a Eagle pilot that I am looking to network with.

Quoting zippyjet (Reply 11):
Thank You for this thread.

Watched the Airline Investigation (Nat. Geographic) on You Tube last night. Very sad indeed. Its a tragedy that the manufactorer goes after the pilots who can't speak for themselves. They fought like gangbusters to the end.

I didn't realize on an ATR that there was a snack/beverage service for such a short flight. At least as shown in this dramatization.

Thank you! What I have done, in their memory, is to become an aviation safety advocate. I am working with many sources as we speak.

Quoting pshifrin (Reply 15):
Something wonderful can come from such a tragedy. Project Morry (founded in honor of Morry Stein, passenger)

A beautiful work indeed.

Just as a sidenote: Trying to plan a gathering for the 20th anniversary, 10/31/14.

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