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LH 748i, First Destination?

Sat Nov 05, 2011 1:57 am

Has the first destination for the B748i have been announced yet? From what I head, IAD will be first in March. But I had not seen anything out there about it? Looking at a previous locked thread, it seems that what I had heard would confirm speculations of A.netters as IAD being first. Anyone with more info on this?

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LH 748i, First Destination?

Sat Nov 05, 2011 2:19 am

I'm guessing FRA-DEN. Both airports are ready (and waiting) for this bird.  

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LH 748i, First Destination?

Sat Nov 05, 2011 3:33 am

I'd guess IAD or ORD. Either way I think it's going to come to the US, which would make sense if it were IAD or ORD given the *A hubs, strong relationship with UA, and that the 380 hasn't been deployed on these routes. I'd think that DEN, LAX, and IAH could be possibilities down the line as well.
 
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LH 748i, First Destination?

Sat Nov 05, 2011 3:55 am

Some where premium heavy since it has a large business cabin with fully flat seats.

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LH 748i, First Destination?

Sat Nov 05, 2011 6:12 am

I'm gonna say IAH.


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LH 748i, First Destination?

Sat Nov 05, 2011 7:15 am

Quoting fpetrutiu (Thread starter):
Has the first destination for the B748i have been announced yet?

No. I heard GRU, IAH as the first destinations. But as the airplane is still couple of months away from being delivered, we have to be patient.

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RE: LH 748i, First Destination?

Sat Nov 05, 2011 7:49 am

I always thought India would be among the first destinations; since the A380 won't be flying to India, the 748's extra capacity would give it an advantage there.
 
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RE: LH 748i, First Destination?

Sat Nov 05, 2011 7:59 am

Quoting kaitak (Reply 6):
I always thought India would be among the first destinations; since the A380 won't be flying to India, the 748's extra capacity would give it an advantage there.

It is on the list as well. But as the Indian market is rather difficult at times, they'll need it somewhere else first. And GRU and IAH are very high on that list.

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RE: LH 748i, First Destination?

Sat Nov 05, 2011 9:19 am

Quoting wilco737 (Reply 5):
No. I heard GRU, IAH as the first destinations. But as the airplane is still couple of months away from being delivered, we have to be patient.

wilco737

Sounds reasonable, but GRU cannot be done daily with just one airframe. Can IAH? If it can, then I would expect to see IAH first, otherwise GRU 3x weekly to start with (like JNB started on the A380).
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RE: LH 748i, First Destination?

Sat Nov 05, 2011 10:40 am

Quoting flyingalex (Reply 8):
but GRU cannot be done daily with just one airframe.

Correct.

Quoting flyingalex (Reply 8):
Can IAH?

Well, the flight to IAH leaves at 10:25am in FRA and gets back to FRA at 8:55am. So that would give you 1.5 hours of ground time if you only use one frame which is rather tight, especially if you have to do the regular checks...

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RE: LH 748i, First Destination?

Sat Nov 05, 2011 10:43 am

The first two destinations will be HKG and EZE, the third one a US city.......heard it through the grapevine.  
 
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RE: LH 748i, First Destination?

Sat Nov 05, 2011 10:44 am

Quoting LHPII (Reply 10):
heard it through the grapevine.  

Yeah, we all hear things... I heard that it will be GRU and IAH  

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RE: LH 748i, First Destination?

Sat Nov 05, 2011 11:10 am

I heard , off the record, it will be most probably MEX... By the way, the MUC flight is NOT 100% confirmed, though it appears already in system and is bookable

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RE: LH 748i, First Destination?

Sat Nov 05, 2011 11:11 am

Quoting SQ773 (Reply 12):

I heard , off the record, it will be most probably MEX...

That's the problem: we all heard things "off the record" as there is no record yet and no confirmed route. LH is sending out their guys checking and calculating which airport works fine with the 748i...

The delivery date is still 2+ months from now....

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RE: LH 748i, First Destination?

Sat Nov 05, 2011 11:20 am

I'm gonna throw in FRA-EWR after DEN. Nobody's mentioned them yet. I know that LH has its A380s going to JFK, but could EWR be a station for the 748s?
 
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RE: LH 748i, First Destination?

Sat Nov 05, 2011 11:24 am

Quoting point2point (Reply 14):
I know that LH has its A380s going to JFK, but could EWR be a station for the 748s?

During winter both JFK flights are 346 and end of march 346 and 744 are planned on the JFK route to keep the 380 on the SIN run...

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RE: LH 748i, First Destination?

Sat Nov 05, 2011 11:26 am

Quoting wilco737 (Reply 13):

The delivery date is still 2+ months from now....

which brings up the question, which will be the first German airport? It used to be HAM but the last delivery of a 744 is so long ago I really can't remember if they went to HAM or FRA. What I still do remember was the delivery of the world's (and of course Lufthansa's) first 747F which landed at HAM with a full load of Washington State apples. All customers got a case or more and the apples tasted delicious. But I think at least all pax -100 and -200s went to HAM first for interior fitting.

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RE: LH 748i, First Destination?

Sat Nov 05, 2011 11:28 am

Quoting PanHAM (Reply 16):
which will be the first German airport?

I guess it will be FRA. But of course I don't know yet. Somehow I have the feeling that the guys who pick up the new toy want to fly into FRA  

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RE: LH 748i, First Destination?

Sat Nov 05, 2011 11:40 am

Quoting point2point (Reply 14):
I'm gonna throw in FRA-EWR after DEN. Nobody's mentioned them yet. I know that LH has its A380s going to JFK, but could EWR be a station for the 748s?

Actually, the JFK flights (LH400/LH401 and LH404/LH405) are currently operated by two A346s this winter. At the moment, they are both scheduled on B744s in the summer.

Maybe the B748 will end up going to JFK. The flight is fairly short and leaves plenty of time on the ground at both ends to get used to the new aircraft. Then again, that's the argument that had a lot of people thinking that FRA-JFK would be the first A380 route for LH, and we all know what became of that.

By the way, the early EWR flight (LH402) is scheduled with a B744 both this winter and next summer. The second FRA-EWR flight (LH484/LH485, currently an A343) is scheduled on an A346 in the summer.
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RE: LH 748i, First Destination?

Sat Nov 05, 2011 11:42 am

You're all wrong...it's being put on the twice daily Dusseldorf-Newcastle run that is currently operated by CR9s  
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RE: LH 748i, First Destination?

Sat Nov 05, 2011 12:43 pm

The 748-i is not a new aircraft type. It is a 747-400 only bigger.
That it has a more advanced flight deck such as the 787 I am not able to tell.

Will they have an inaugural flight for the 748i to a different place than the first destination, maybe?

Thinking ANA. 787 inaugural went to HKG while first international flight will go to Frankfurt.

Will the 748i inaugural flight be sold/auctioned for charity? Will it be private or accessible to the general public?

    
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RE: LH 748i, First Destination?

Sat Nov 05, 2011 1:13 pm

I wonder has LH thought about using the 747-8i on the FRA-SFO route during the winter? FRA-SFO is very popular, hence the reason why LH used the A380 on this route during the summer.
 
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RE: LH 748i, First Destination?

Sat Nov 05, 2011 1:18 pm

Quoting RayChuang (Reply 21):
I wonder has LH thought about using the 747-8i on the FRA-SFO route during the winter? FRA-SFO is very popular, hence the reason why LH used the A380 on this route during the summer.

Because the loads in winter are far less than in the summer and even the 744 is not always full during winter time. So no need for additional seats with the 748i.

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RE: LH 748i, First Destination?

Sat Nov 05, 2011 1:25 pm

Quoting wilco737 (Reply 22):
Because the loads in winter are far less than in the summer and even the 744 is not always full during winter time. So no need for additional seats with the 748i.

In that case, we'll probably not see the 747-8i at SFO. Has LH ever used the A340-600 on the FRA-SFO route during the winter months?
 
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RE: LH 748i, First Destination?

Sat Nov 05, 2011 1:27 pm

Quoting RayChuang (Reply 23):
Has LH ever used the A340-600 on the FRA-SFO route during the winter months?

AFAIK the 744 has been on that route for a long time until the 380 came. Loads during summer are good, so the 380 makes good money there.

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RE: LH 748i, First Destination?

Sat Nov 05, 2011 1:47 pm

Quoting flyingalex (Reply 8):
GRU cannot be done daily with just one airframe
Quoting wilco737 (Reply 9):
So that would give you 1.5 hours of ground time if you only use one frame which is rather tight, especially if you have to do the regular checks...

Very slightly off topic, what is the delivery calendar?

Quoting gkirk (Reply 19):
it's being put on the twice daily Dusseldorf-Newcastle run that is currently operated by CR9s

  
 
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RE: LH 748i, First Destination?

Sat Nov 05, 2011 2:27 pm

Quoting GVAJFKflyer (Reply 25):
Very slightly off topic, what is the delivery calendar?

From what I am hearing, the first delivery will be in March...
 
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RE: LH 748i, First Destination?

Sat Nov 05, 2011 2:56 pm

Quoting wilco737 (Reply 15):
During winter both JFK flights are 346 and end of march 346 and 744 are planned on the JFK route to keep the 380 on the SIN run...

Maybe the fact that SQ is using their A380 on FRA-JFK-FRA has something to do with it as well.

Quoting LHPII (Reply 10):
The first two destinations will be HKG and EZE, the third one a US city.......heard it through the grapevine.
Quoting wilco737 (Reply 11):
I heard that it will be GRU and IAH

And I heard the idea is to put the 748 on business destinations that aren't big tourist markets.

IAD, IAH, ORD, HKG, GRU, MEX all sound plausible. I'd like to throw in ICN, KIX, PVG, CCS, BOG?, DEN, DXB in the mix as well. LH will probably start with flights that can be done with one frame only until the fleet size has grown and long ground times can be avoided, so my dinero would be on ORD and/or IAD.

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RE: LH 748i, First Destination?

Sat Nov 05, 2011 3:27 pm

I just wish I knew when it is coming to Denver. I am looking forward to a trip over the pond on it.
 
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RE: LH 748i, First Destination?

Sat Nov 05, 2011 5:44 pm

Quoting something (Reply 27):

And I heard the idea is to put the 748 on business destinations that aren't big tourist markets.

Makes sense, since those would be the markets in which LH could monetise the new full-flat Business class that is supposed to come online with the B748.

Quoting something (Reply 27):

IAD, IAH, ORD, HKG, GRU, MEX all sound plausible. I'd like to throw in ICN, KIX, PVG, CCS, BOG?, DEN, DXB in the mix as well. LH will probably start with flights that can be done with one frame only until the fleet size has grown and long ground times can be avoided, so my dinero would be on ORD and/or IAD.

I agree with all of the first group, but I disagree with some of the others.

ICN - the A346 seems to be big enough for this market. I base this on the amount of award availability you can find on the route, even close in. When everything else to Asia is sold out, ICN will usually still have a seat available for miles.

KIX - similar to ICN. There are strong Economy loads with outbound tour groups from Japan, but premium demand is often weak. FRA-KIX-FRA has even been operated by two-class aircraft on occasion.

PVG - definintely! LH wanted to send the A380 here rather than PEK, but China would not let them. The B748 may be an acceptable substitute. Unless of course LH can convince the Chinese to allow them to fly to PVG on the A380 after all.

CCS - depends on what happens with Chavez in the next few years.

BOG - seems to be going strong, but A346 to B748 is a pretty big capacity upgrade. Time will tell.

DEN - good possibility.

DXB - I can't really see it happening. There are usually 1 or 2 days per week with really strong loads, but there are also plenty of flights with weak loads. Perhaps a mix of B744 and B748 in the future, since pilots can fly them on a common rating.
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RE: LH 748i, First Destination?

Sat Nov 05, 2011 5:47 pm

Quoting flyingalex (Reply 29):
KIX - similar to ICN. There are strong Economy loads with outbound tour groups from Japan, but premium demand is often weak. FRA-KIX-FRA has even been operated by two-class aircraft on occasion.

KIX has just been upgraded to 744 in winter. So looks like there is more demand than expected. And the 744s are all 3 class configuration.

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RE: LH 748i, First Destination?

Sat Nov 05, 2011 6:18 pm

I think it should be their return to GIG. (or have they started?) It was the Hindenburg's first big destination (please NO jokes about the ultimate fate of the Hindenburg...and NO jokes about trying to equate the 748i either)

It could be good PR in both Germany and Brazil...I think. But I have my bets she will (when there are 2) to GRU. German business people are not hard to find at a downtown Brazilian BBQ house! Germany has a lot of investment in Brazil and both in RIO & SP. Thus a lot of premium pax. Not to forget the huge Brazilian population of German of decendent. VARIG's 777 non-stop FRA/GIG was always packed and expensive. I spent 10,000 usd one way for business class once! In fact, I have flown between both countries, on both carriers, often and have never been on an empty one.

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RE: LH 748i, First Destination?

Sat Nov 05, 2011 9:21 pm

Quoting point2point (Reply 1):
I'm guessing FRA-DEN. Both airports are ready (and waiting) for this bird.

When LH ordered the 748i they informed DEN that they intended to fly it there and DEN would need to move the road behind concourse A so it could fit.
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RE: LH 748i, First Destination?

Sat Nov 05, 2011 9:48 pm

Quoting N104UA (Reply 32):

Really! How many meters longer is it? I seem to recall about 10? Is there that much demand from Denver?
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RE: LH 748i, First Destination?

Sat Nov 05, 2011 10:05 pm

Quoting something (Reply 27):
Maybe the fact that SQ is using their A380 on FRA-JFK-FRA has something to do with it as well.

Wow I've not been to FRA in a long time if that is true. SQ is using the A380 on the SIN-FRA-JFK-FRA-SIN run now?

Quoting fpetrutiu (Reply 26):
From what I am hearing, the first delivery will be in March...

Is that a ready-to-go for line training aircraft or will it still need cabin fitting in HAM (I believe I read about this to happen at LHT internally, not Boeing)
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RE: LH 748i, First Destination?

Sat Nov 05, 2011 10:09 pm

Quoting PanHAM (Reply 16):
What I still do remember was the delivery of the world's (and of course Lufthansa's) first 747F which landed at HAM with a full load of Washington State apples.

That was the only 747 freighter for over 2 years. LH took delivery of it in March 1972. The next pure freighter wasn't delivered until July 1974 (to Seaboard World). A couple of convertible passenger-freighters were delivered in 1973 to World Airways.

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RE: LH 748i, First Destination?

Sat Nov 05, 2011 10:16 pm

Quoting N104UA (Reply 32):
When LH ordered the 748i they informed DEN that they intended to fly it there and DEN would need to move the road behind concourse A so it could fit.

Don't know the source, but I thought it was just doing some painting. And if there is a road that needed to be moved, has it been done yet, would you know?

Quoting VC10er (Reply 33):
Is there that much demand from Denver?

DEN got upgraded I believe in spring 11 from an A346 (which I believe was constantly overbooked) to a 744. This 744 is now staying for the winter. And from another thread going on here....

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Quoting lows (Reply 48):
I did DEN-FRA in July and was disappointed (sorry, Wilco737) that we had been upgauged from a A346. However, when we boarded, I could see why. I recall counting only about 10 empty seats in the back of Y.

.... it looks as though the 744 is filling up quite well in all sections as well.

Besides a lot of O&D, with lots of German business investment in Colorado (the new energy thing...) and a lot of tourists both ways, this is also a major *A hub-to-hub route as well.

In a way it is surprising that this does so well, but on the other hand, it currently is only one of two daily across-the-pond flights to/from DEN, with the other being BA to LHR, so....... 
 
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RE: LH 748i, First Destination?

Sat Nov 05, 2011 10:21 pm

Quoting VC10er (Reply 31):
I think it should be their return to GIG. (or have they started?)

Yes, they started this week, with the switchover to the winter schedule 2011/2012. They are using A343s for now.

Quoting VC10er (Reply 31):
Does TAM fly that route now? (GIG/FRA)

Yes, 4x/week on an A332.

Quoting Semaex (Reply 34):
Wow I've not been to FRA in a long time if that is true. SQ is using the A380 on the SIN-FRA-JFK-FRA-SIN run now?

They will start using the A380 on that route on 15 January 2012.
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RE: LH 748i, First Destination?

Sat Nov 05, 2011 11:10 pm

Quoting Viscount724 (Reply 35):
That was the only 747 freighter for over 2 years. LH took delivery of it in March 1972.

I was transferred by my company to NY in June 72, just in time to witness the official inaugural flight FRA-JFK in June or July 72. Had an invitation to attend, the aircraft was flown by the famous Capt. Werner Utter and LH had a unique nose-dock in the new cargo building at JFK. I saw D-ABYE more or less daily when I drove to work in the morning.
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RE: LH 748i, First Destination?

Sun Nov 06, 2011 1:18 am

Quoting flyingalex (Reply 8):
Sounds reasonable, but GRU cannot be done daily with just one airframe. Can IAH? If it can, then I would expect to see IAH first, otherwise GRU 3x weekly to start with (like JNB started on the A380).

LH actually started their first A380 D-AIMA 3x weekly to NRT. Especially with their first few frames they were being very conservative. This was different from SQ's approach, who chose to start off with SIN-SYD-SIN specifically because they could do the flight daily from the beginning.

LH's first A380s had plenty of spare time to use them for training, certifications, and promotion flights. This gave LH a very high dispatch reliability right from the start. I believe they will choose a similar conservative approach with the B748, especially since they are the launch customer, though I do not believe they will be having as many promotional flights.
 
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RE: LH 748i, First Destination?

Sun Nov 06, 2011 4:54 am

Quoting flyingalex (Reply 29):
ICN - the A346 seems to be big enough for this market. I base this on the amount of award availability you can find on the route, even close in. When everything else to Asia is sold out, ICN will usually still have a seat available for miles.

KIX - similar to ICN. There are strong Economy loads with outbound tour groups from Japan, but premium demand is often weak. FRA-KIX-FRA has even been operated by two-class aircraft on occasion.

PVG - definintely! LH wanted to send the A380 here rather than PEK, but China would not let them. The B748 may be an acceptable substitute. Unless of course LH can convince the Chinese to allow them to fly to PVG on the A380 after all.

CCS - depends on what happens with Chavez in the next few years.

BOG - seems to be going strong, but A346 to B748 is a pretty big capacity upgrade. Time will tell.

DEN - good possibility.

DXB - I can't really see it happening. There are usually 1 or 2 days per week with really strong loads, but there are also plenty of flights with weak loads. Perhaps a mix of B744 and B748 in the future, since pilots can fly them on a common rating.

ICN produces insane growths numbers. Nippon used to be ishi ban (number one), but is losing more and more dominance to South Korea. ICN will not be started from the get-go, but I can totally see that happening somewhere down the line.

KIX has taken over a lot of business from Tokyo after the earth quake and some of that has just remained there. Tokyo is also too crowded and expensive for most companies so with LH being the only service to Europe out of KIX (as far as I'm informed), I have no doubt in my mind they will make a good buck there.

CCS/BOG cargo is bananas. Figuratively speaking.

DXB is a rather short flight and could work nicely in tandem with another flight to get the most air time out of two frames. On that note, TLV falls in the same category.

Quoting Semaex (Reply 34):
Wow I've not been to FRA in a long time if that is true. SQ is using the A380 on the SIN-FRA-JFK-FRA-SIN run now?

Not now, but from I believe Jan 14th on.

Quoting Semaex (Reply 34):
still need cabin fitting in HAM (I believe I read about this to happen at LHT internally, not Boeing)

I can confirm this. All 748s will go through HAM for cabin fitting before entering service.

Quoting point2point (Reply 36):
In a way it is surprising that this does so well, but on the other hand, it currently is only one of two daily across-the-pond flights to/from DEN, with the other being BA to LHR,

I am booking tickets to DEN for next summer these days and it's ridiculous. Germany- Denver is not to be had for under €700 at best. Flights to LAX cost €100 less than that, despite being significantly farther. LH is surely is making the most of their quasi-monopoly on the Denver - Europe service. Oh and by the way, the €700 are on CO via EWR. The non stop is north of €900.

Quoting LH422 (Reply 39):
LH's first A380s had plenty of spare time to use them for training, certifications, and promotion flights. This gave LH a very high dispatch reliability right from the start. I believe they will choose a similar conservative approach with the B748, especially since they are the launch customer, though I do not believe they will be having as many promotional flights.

Excellent contribution and I was going to say the same. The difference between A380 and 748 is though that the A380s joined LH once at a time, months apart. The first four 748s will join the fleet literally within day off each other. The limiting factor will be LHT Hamburg who can't equip the aircraft as fast as Boeing could deliver them.
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RE: LH 748i, First Destination?

Sun Nov 06, 2011 5:21 am

Quoting something (Reply 40):
Tokyo is also too crowded and expensive for most companies so with LH being the only service to Europe out of KIX (as far as I'm informed),

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Sun Nov 06, 2011 3:26 pm

Quoting something (Reply 40):
I can confirm this. All 748s will go through HAM for cabin fitting before entering service.
Quoting something (Reply 40):
The first four 748s will join the fleet literally within day off each other. The limiting factor will be LHT Hamburg who can't equip the aircraft as fast as Boeing could deliver them.

How long is it expected for each frame to get outfitting in HAM? Or in other words, how long is it estimated to take between Boeing delivery and commercial service?
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RE: LH 748i, First Destination?

Sun Nov 06, 2011 3:41 pm

Quoting something (Reply 40):
with LH being the only service to Europe out of KIX (as far as I'm informed)
Quoting Lufthansa (Reply 41):

You forgot about Finnair!

Air France and Alitalia too...

Quoting LH422 (Reply 39):
LH actually started their first A380 D-AIMA 3x weekly to NRT. Especially with their first few frames they were being very conservative. This was different from SQ's approach, who chose to start off with SIN-SYD-SIN specifically because they could do the flight daily from the beginning.

LH's first A380s had plenty of spare time to use them for training, certifications, and promotion flights. This gave LH a very high dispatch reliability right from the start. I believe they will choose a similar conservative approach with the B748, especially since they are the launch customer, though I do not believe they will be having as many promotional flights.

I know that NRT was LH's first A380 route, but I mentioned FRA-JNB-FRA because in terms of the schedule, it resembles FRA-GRU-FRA more than FRA-NRT-FRA does. Therefore, if GRU ends up being the first B748 route, I expect it to be approached in more or less the same way that LH approached the introduction of A380 service to JNB.
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RE: LH 748i, First Destination?

Sun Nov 06, 2011 4:40 pm

Quoting something (Reply 40):
The limiting factor will be LHT Hamburg who can't equip the aircraft as fast as Boeing could deliver them.

so it is like int he old days, they go SEA-HAM for the interior fitting. good.
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RE: LH 748i, First Destination?

Sun Nov 06, 2011 6:05 pm

Is LAX in question for LH's 748i?

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RE: LH 748i, First Destination?

Sun Nov 06, 2011 6:05 pm

Quoting Semaex (Reply 42):
How long is it expected for each frame to get outfitting in HAM? Or in other words, how long is it estimated to take between Boeing delivery and commercial service?

I don't know what exactly will be done, but for reference an A380 needs about 6 months, a private, customized jet 12-14 months. The 744s that got the new economy class installed at HAM stayed for 6 weeks if I remember correctly.

So depending on what needs to be done and how smooth the process sails along, I'd imagine it'll take somewhere around 2-3 months.
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RE: LH 748i, First Destination?

Tue Nov 08, 2011 9:30 pm

Quoting point2point (Reply 36):
Quoting N104UA (Reply 32):
When LH ordered the 748i they informed DEN that they intended to fly it there and DEN would need to move the road behind concourse A so it could fit.

Don't know the source, but I thought it was just doing some painting. And if there is a road that needed to be moved, has it been done yet, would you know?

It is just changing the painting of the 'road' and I do not know if it has been done yet
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RE: LH 748i, First Destination?

Wed Nov 09, 2011 2:17 am

Quoting N104UA (Reply 47):
It is just changing the painting of the 'road' and I do not know if it has been done yet

Okay, and I guess that it's good that it's not a major project.

I 'm also pretty certain (though not 100%) that somewhere I read that this was done, although I looked throughout the internet for the source and could not find it. I think that what I read was that some painting was required, which you verified, and that this was done. I also think that this same thing that I read stated that DEN was ready for the 748, so.....

At any rate, it'll be good to see this new big baby here if it does get scheduled, although when I'm out at DEN to depart/arrive with late afternoon/evening flights, and LH's big bird 744 is there, I don't know that I'll be able to tell the difference between that and the 748 yet. I guess maybe that I'll have to look closely for some feature(s) that will differentiate the two.



 
 
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RE: LH 748i, First Destination?

Wed Nov 09, 2011 8:00 am

Quoting point2point (Reply 48):
I don't know that I'll be able to tell the difference between that and the 748 yet. I guess maybe that I'll have to look closely for some feature(s) that will differentiate the two.

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The three easiest ways to know which is which:

1. The 744 has winglets, the 748 has raked wingtips.

2. If the length of the Upper Deck is not enough of a clue, look for those two single windows at the back. If they're there, it's a 748.

3. Look at the engines. If you see that sawtooth pattern, it's a 748.
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