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Pan Am 747 Routing Patterns?

Sun Nov 06, 2011 10:25 pm

Howdy folks,

If anyone out there knows, did PA 747s have a tendency to fly certain routes frequently, or was there some variation from time to time?

For example, I was just looking at some YouTube vids of PA 747s in GIG, and the "Clipper Beacon Light" was featured in most, if not all of them. And looking at pics on here of the infamous "Maid of the Seas" the bulk of them were taken at LHR or FRA. In fact I remember as a child, seeing the sad photo of her nose in the field and thinking about all the wonderful places she must have flown over the years.

And, during the days of the Pacific Routes, would a 747-100 fly from Europe to JFK, then to LAX or SFO and onto maybe HNL or NRT? I know there was the RTW flight which ended in the early 80s, but I am thinking more mid to late 80s.

I sincerely appreciate any answers, as I have wondered about this from time to time over the years.

-Andrew

[Edited 2011-11-06 14:31:34]
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spartanmjf
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RE: Pan Am 747 Routing Patterns?

Mon Nov 07, 2011 12:43 am

With a large but nonetheless fairly limited fleet of 747 aircraft, I would presume PA aircraft could be seen running routes on a regular basis. N739PA, for example, arrived in LHR from [I believe] SFO before it operated the ill-fated PA103.
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RE: Pan Am 747 Routing Patterns?

Mon Nov 07, 2011 12:50 am

I flew PanAM in July of 1990. The routing of the 747 was as follows: Televiv, Paris, JFK, MIA, Panamá City.
 
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RE: Pan Am 747 Routing Patterns?

Mon Nov 07, 2011 3:29 am

Autumn 1983, I flew home from Frankfurt on a Pan Am B747. The entire routing for that aircraft that day: KHI-FRA-LHR-LAX. Back then, it never occured to me to snatch a pic of the nose and I could kick myself.
 
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RE: Pan Am 747 Routing Patterns?

Mon Nov 07, 2011 3:38 am

Well remember Pan Am had some different fleet variations.

For example in the late 1980s, Pan Am had two 747 cabin configuration. A high premium cabin version which IIRC was about 6-framed and served virtually exclusively the deep-South American network, and the regular version which had a higher Y class count.

Also PA had both -100s and -200s. They tried to schedule when possible the -200s on some of the longer segments such as LAX-FRA and on other markets where the -100s tended to take performance hits -- such as FCO(high temperatures) or ZRH (climb performance) back to JFK.
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747buff
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RE: Pan Am 747 Routing Patterns?

Mon Nov 07, 2011 6:29 am

Quoting LAXintl (Reply 4):

Also PA had both -100s and -200s.

Oh yes, I forgot to mention the 200s. I remember reading somewhere that there were performance issues on the non-SP TPAC routes, so wasn't that also part of the reason they were acquired?
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RE: Pan Am 747 Routing Patterns?

Mon Nov 07, 2011 2:00 pm

I flew PA110 in 1980. The routing was: JFK-FCO-IST (it used to continue to THR before the overthrow).
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RE: Pan Am 747 Routing Patterns?

Mon Nov 07, 2011 2:51 pm

Sometime in the mid-70s, I flew from SFO to GIG on a PA 747 (what version I have no idea, as in those days I didn't pay much attention to that sort of thing). The route, in both directions, was SFO-LAX-GUA-CCS-GIG and vice versa.

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