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New Swiss Aviation Thread No. 28

Wed Nov 09, 2011 9:29 am

Continuation of discussion from : New Swiss Aviation Thread No. 27 (by ZRH Jul 2 2011 in Civil Aviation)#1

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RE: New Swiss Aviation Thread No. 28

Wed Nov 09, 2011 9:38 am

Thanks for opening this new topic!

A lot of things are currently going on.
Rumours about new destinations for LX, as it seems that DLA & NSI will be axed.
Also the upcoming referendum in ZRH is something which is highly important for Swiss aviation.
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RE: New Swiss Aviation Thread No. 28

Wed Nov 09, 2011 7:41 pm

Quoting slz396 (Reply 241):
in future, LX probably being the most suited one for this task, as it is undoubtably able to offer a premium product.

Agreed, but Saudi Arabia isn't such an easy market, with hardly any non-religious Tourism, and business traffic dependent upon local sponsors.

Quoting slz396 (Reply 241):
I'd expect quite a lot of the more lucrative routes of bmi to be transferred to other airlines like LX, SN, OS and of course LH itself prior to the sale to BA.

That's one possibility indeed.

But which ex-BD routes for LX? IKA, AMM, BEY (ex WK), ALA, ESB, DKR, CMN, KBP, LAS (WK)? Where would it get the fleet to operate these routes?
 
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RE: New Swiss Aviation Thread No. 28

Wed Nov 09, 2011 7:58 pm

Would it be an option for LH to transfer the LH Italia aircraft to LX? This would mean a substantial increase both in aircraft, but also in flexibility seatwise. It's just an idea which is probably nothing more than bulls**t with BER getting 15 LH 32S stationed....
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RE: New Swiss Aviation Thread No. 28

Wed Nov 09, 2011 8:29 pm

Quoting DALCE (Reply 3):
Would it be an option for LH to transfer the LH Italia aircraft to LX? This would mean a substantial increase both in aircraft, but also in flexibility seatwise. It's just an idea which is probably nothing more than bulls**t with BER getting 15 LH 32S stationed...

and they could get rid of those wetlease operations.... But it seems this will only happen once the 30 C Jet's were delivered by 201X
 
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RE: New Swiss Aviation Thread No. 28

Wed Nov 09, 2011 8:50 pm

Quoting LXA340 (Reply 4):
and they could get rid of those wetlease operations.... But it seems this will only happen once the 30 C Jet's were delivered by 201X

That's why the wet lease contracts for the four Helvetic F100 will expire in 2014 once the first C-Series aircraft will have been delivered.
 
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RE: New Swiss Aviation Thread No. 28

Thu Nov 10, 2011 8:15 am

With only 2 320's joining the fleet next year expansion remains to be tough in the short haul network.
Is there by any chance some info 'bout C-series first flights?
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RE: New Swiss Aviation Thread No. 28

Thu Nov 10, 2011 10:00 am

Hi guys,

I didn't see an answer in the previous topic, but will LX continue to operate the MCT tag-on from DXB, now Oman Air starts a direct service? I always get the impression most of the pax get off in DXB. Are there many bookings for just the MCT-DXB leg? The prices are very reasonable (120EUR return, booked for next week) but since it's operating in the middle of the night local time, I can't imagine it being a popular itinerary.

Next week I will fly to Dubai again, it will be interesting to see how many people remain seated during the deboarding process in DXB.

If anyone has any information on this topic, I would be interested to learn about it.

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RE: New Swiss Aviation Thread No. 28

Thu Nov 10, 2011 10:17 pm

Quoting DALCE (Reply 3):
Would it be an option for LH to transfer the LH Italia aircraft to LX? This would mean a substantial increase both in aircraft, but also in flexibility seatwise. It's just an idea which is probably nothing more than bulls**t with BER getting 15 LH 32S stationed....

LX wouldn't have anyone to fly them, they can hardly cope with their current expansion, and our new CLA doesn't allow the use of any more wetlease or "temporary"-pilots from elsewhere. Secondly, it's no secret that LX isn't happy with the A319 and is looking at getting rid of them, and as far as I know, most LH Italia aircraft are A319s.

There is no room for further expansion at LX, they are stretching it as it is.

As for the new (old) destination being looked at, it has been mentioned a few times above, but that is really all I can say..
 
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RE: New Swiss Aviation Thread No. 28

Thu Nov 10, 2011 10:23 pm

Quoting SandroZRH (Reply 8):
LX wouldn't have anyone to fly them, they can hardly cope with their current expansion

Why does it take LX so long to finally overcome their crew shortage problems which have existed for years? Is the pilot's market drained in Europe or is it due to LX's own restrictive hiring procedures that they are not able to fill the gaps?

It seems to me that LX could have built up much more capacity at times when they flourished but were not able to due to this crew shortage.
 
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RE: New Swiss Aviation Thread No. 28

Thu Nov 10, 2011 10:45 pm

Quoting SandroZRH (Reply 8):
Secondly, it's no secret that LX isn't happy with the A319 and is looking at getting rid of them,

May we expect LX to confirm the 30 C10 options which it has, besides the 30 firm orders?

Or will there be upgauges to 320? or C30 orders?
 
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RE: New Swiss Aviation Thread No. 28

Thu Nov 10, 2011 11:06 pm

Quoting SandroZRH (Reply 8):
LX isn't happy with the A319

How come? Because of their size/capacity/...? I'm curious
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RE: New Swiss Aviation Thread No. 28

Thu Nov 10, 2011 11:16 pm

Quoting PhilInBRN (Reply 9):
Why does it take LX so long to finally overcome their crew shortage problems which have existed for years?

Because they are not thinking ahead. They are planning with the minimum amount of crews needed for their current operations to keep labour costs down, and they still havent realised yet that ou can't just hire quality flightcrews off the street in a days matter when they need them.

Quoting AntonovA330 (Reply 11):
How come? Because of their size/capacity/...? I'm curious

Exactly. It's basically a plane with the costs of an A320 but fewer revenue potential. This is also why the A318 has never been a success..
 
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RE: New Swiss Aviation Thread No. 28

Sat Nov 12, 2011 10:03 am

Quoting SandroZRH (Reply 12):

Ok, thanks for clairification.

Speaking of new destination(s), NZZ newspaper is mentioning possible reopening of SIN because of high business demand.
http://www.nzz.ch/magazin/reisen/bus..._swiss_umgeruestet_1.13283262.html
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RE: New Swiss Aviation Thread No. 28

Sat Nov 12, 2011 10:48 am

Should LX serve again SIN with its own metal, it would be with 343.

In that case, it would be a good idea to re-fit F and Y cabins (and IFE) to 333 standards.

Any chance LX also adds more longhaul flights to/from GVA in this decade?.
 
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RE: New Swiss Aviation Thread No. 28

Sat Nov 12, 2011 1:58 pm

An A330-200 (HB-IQA) is now operated by Swiss for Brussels Airlines on routes to/from Africa.
 
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RE: New Swiss Aviation Thread No. 28

Sat Nov 12, 2011 8:15 pm

Quoting viasa (Reply 15):
An A330-200 (HB-IQA) is now operated by Swiss for Brussels Airlines on routes to/from Africa.

Is the aircraft still flown with SWISS crews under the SWISS callsign? How long will it be until it is registered OO-SFY?
 
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RE: New Swiss Aviation Thread No. 28

Sat Nov 12, 2011 8:20 pm

Quoting viasa (Reply 15):
An A330-200 (HB-IQA) is now operated by Swiss for Brussels Airlines on routes to/from Africa.

HB-IQA is going to be SN's first A332, but for the moment is it not yet entered on the Belgian register, as it first needs to be sold to a lessor before SN can lease it from them.

Quoting LONGisland89 (Reply 16):
Is the aircraft still flown with SWISS crews under the SWISS callsign? How long will it be until it is registered OO-SFY?

As far as I know, it is flown by Belgian crews only... it should be registered as OO-SFY early next year.
 
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RE: New Swiss Aviation Thread No. 28

Sun Nov 13, 2011 6:39 pm

Quoting SR4ever (Reply 14):
Should LX serve again SIN with its own metal, it would be with 343.

In that case, it would be a good idea to re-fit F and Y cabins (and IFE) to 333 standards.

Any chance LX also adds more longhaul flights to/from GVA in this decade?.

Well there were always some rumours around for LX to receive a couple of used A346's would maybe be better for that route as I am not sure if the A343's of LX can operate ZRH-SIN non stop without any weight restrictions

Regarding the A343 refit, I gave up my hopes on that. With the saving policy of SWISS they will not be bothered because by around 2017 yes exactly at least another 6+ years they will start to replace the fleet with the A350's. Let0s hope they'll reconsider that again.
 
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RE: New Swiss Aviation Thread No. 28

Sun Nov 13, 2011 6:50 pm

Quoting LONGisland89 (Reply 16):
Is the aircraft still flown with SWISS crews under the SWISS callsign? How long will it be until it is registered OO-SFY?

Full SN crews. Registration is expected next month.

Quoting slz396 (Reply 17):
HB-IQA is going to be SN's first A332, but for the moment is it not yet entered on the Belgian register, as it first needs to be sold to a lessor before SN can lease it from them.

Correctly  
Quoting slz396 (Reply 17):
As far as I know, it is flown by Belgian crews only... it should be registered as OO-SFY early next year.

It should be on the Belgian Civil Register somewhere next month.
 
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RE: New Swiss Aviation Thread No. 28

Mon Nov 14, 2011 12:18 am

Quoting LXA340 (Reply 18):
Well there were always some rumours around for LX to receive a couple of used A346's would maybe be better for that route as I am not sure if the A343's of LX can operate ZRH-SIN non stop without any weight restrictions

LH operate MUC-SIN without restrictions using an A343. ZRH is only 154 miles further - surely there would be a minimal (if any) impact on the payload?
 
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RE: New Swiss Aviation Thread No. 28

Tue Nov 22, 2011 11:48 pm

The new central security building and Dock B were opened today by Federal Counsellor Doris Leuthard. Pax use starts by December 1.

I just hope there still will be a fast track!

Also, how do they deal with transfer pax arriving in Zurich requiring a security check (e.g. if arriving from a non-Schengen destination)? Where will they be screened?

And I'm still curious to see which flights/airlines will use Dock B. How many stands does it have?
 
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RE: New Swiss Aviation Thread No. 28

Wed Nov 23, 2011 6:49 am

Quoting mozart (Reply 21):
I just hope there still will be a fast track!

Also, how do they deal with transfer pax arriving in Zurich requiring a security check (e.g. if arriving from a non-Schengen destination)? Where will they be screened?

And I'm still curious to see which flights/airlines will use Dock B. How many stands does it have?

I don't know if there will be a fast track. But there are 26 security points. When they open enough a fast track will not be needed.
For transfer pax from non-Schengen countries there still will be security checks right after arrival before they get into the Airside Center. The central security building is for all pax originating ZRH.
Dock B will mainly be used by SWISS and Air Berlin. Probably the SWISS North American flights will leave there. 9 stands at the dock usable for Schengen or non-Schengen flights. Gates B and D. One of them is A 380 capable.
 
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RE: New Swiss Aviation Thread No. 28

Wed Nov 23, 2011 9:53 am

Quoting mozart (Reply 21):
Also, how do they deal with transfer pax arriving in Zurich requiring a security check (e.g. if arriving from a non-Schengen destination)? Where will they be screened?

It appears that they will be screened in the main building as the Heidi train is being partitioned.

Will they still cordon off half of the E dock for US flights (since TSA requirements are different to ICAO requirements)?
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RE: New Swiss Aviation Thread No. 28

Wed Nov 23, 2011 10:31 am

Quoting helvknight (Reply 23):
It appears that they will be screened in the main building as the Heidi train is being partitioned.

Well, if arriving at Dock E and

departing from Dock E or Dock A >>>>>> security check at Dock E; or

departing from Dock B >>>>>> security check when entering Dock B


If arriving at Dock B >>>> security check at Dock B upon arrival
 
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RE: New Swiss Aviation Thread No. 28

Wed Nov 23, 2011 2:19 pm

Quoting helvknight (Reply 23):
Will they still cordon off half of the E dock for US flights (since TSA requirements are different to ICAO requirements)?

I am not sure this is necessarily the case. Look at the setup in Frankfurt or Munich, where there is no more additional security check for pax flying to the USA. The "normal" check that all pax, also those not going to the US, go through is deemed sufficient.

So maybe the opening of new security infrastructure will also lead to a procedure that keeps the TSA happy and will thus do away with the special checks in Dock E.
 
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RE: New Swiss Aviation Thread No. 28

Thu Nov 24, 2011 5:38 am

Quoting helvknight (Reply 23):
Will they still cordon off half of the E dock for US flights (since TSA requirements are different to ICAO requirements)?

I read somewhere that probably the SWISS North American flights will leave from new Dock B.
 
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RE: New Swiss Aviation Thread No. 28

Thu Nov 24, 2011 5:47 am

 
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RE: New Swiss Aviation Thread No. 28

Thu Nov 24, 2011 9:01 am

Quoting mozart (Reply 25):
I am not sure this is necessarily the case. Look at the setup in Frankfurt or Munich, where there is no more additional security check for pax flying to the USA. The "normal" check that all pax, also those not going to the US, go through is deemed sufficient.

That's changed in that case, I flew to the US from FRA a few years ago and there was definitely a further check then.

Quoting ZRH (Reply 26):

I read somewhere that probably the SWISS North American flights will leave from new Dock B.

That would be a good idea, currently a lot of space is wasted in the US end of Dock E.
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RE: New Swiss Aviation Thread No. 28

Thu Nov 24, 2011 10:12 am

Quoting ZRH (Reply 26):
I read somewhere that probably the SWISS North American flights will leave from new Dock B.

According to a source close to the airport operations there will be no North American flights operated from Dock B, at least not right after the opening thereof.
 
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RE: New Swiss Aviation Thread No. 28

Thu Nov 24, 2011 2:16 pm

Quoting helvknight (Reply 28):
That's changed in that case, I flew to the US from FRA a few years ago and there was definitely a further check then.

As you say: a few years ago.

Thing is that even fewer years ago they did away with the extra checks at FRA and MUC and I believe also at all other German airports.

So let's see what things will look like in Zurich.
 
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RE: New Swiss Aviation Thread No. 28

Thu Nov 24, 2011 3:15 pm

In Geneva you only have one security check for all passengers (domestic, Schengen, international and USA). The only exception is El Al flights.
 
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RE: New Swiss Aviation Thread No. 28

Fri Nov 25, 2011 4:36 pm

with only 9 docking bays I don't believe you will see NA flights from dock B. Sadly grossly undersized for the needs...
 
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RE: New Swiss Aviation Thread No. 28

Sun Nov 27, 2011 6:02 am

Quoting mozart (Reply 21):
Also, how do they deal with transfer pax arriving in Zurich requiring a security check (e.g. if arriving from a non-Schengen destination)? Where will they be screened?

Interesting video here:

http://www.zurich-airport.com/desktopdefault.aspx/tabid-842/
 
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RE: New Swiss Aviation Thread No. 28

Sun Nov 27, 2011 1:26 pm

It seems that the two referenda against Zurich Airport are declined. Fortunately. Thank's to all people who voted 2xNEIN!    There are not only NIMBYs here.
 
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RE: New Swiss Aviation Thread No. 28

Sun Nov 27, 2011 2:20 pm

Quoting ZRH (Reply 34):

It seems that the two referenda against Zurich Airport are declined. Fortunately. Thank's to all people who voted 2xNEIN!    There are not only NIMBYs here.

It is now definite  
 
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RE: New Swiss Aviation Thread No. 28

Sun Nov 27, 2011 4:59 pm

Quoting ZRH (Reply 35):
It is now definite

This result is certainly a relief and another indication that the people are usually smarter than the politicians.

I am really grateful that we live in a country that has such an extensive direct democracy and lets us vote on so many issues.

  
 
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RE: New Swiss Aviation Thread No. 28

Sun Nov 27, 2011 8:37 pm

Quoting HAJflyer (Reply 36):
This result is certainly a relief and another indication that the people are usually smarter than the politicians.

I am really grateful that we live in a country that has such an extensive direct democracy and lets us vote on so many issues.

Let's be clear. ZRH is a national asset and as such any vote should be nationwide. The fact that a few rich slobs in the south of Zurich almost single handily destroyed ZRH is unbelievable. Happy for the vote but these idiots will be back again, mutating into a different form but with the same idiotic goals.
 
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RE: New Swiss Aviation Thread No. 28

Mon Nov 28, 2011 11:20 am

Congrats to the very positive votes of the people living in Zurich!


So, how will the next master-plan regarding tarmac and runway expansion look like?

What do we know so far:

-RWY 10-28 to be extended at the west end
-RWY 14-32 to be extended at the north end
-Additional ramps for the new C-Series jets north of Dock E
More?

Questions:
How long are the RWY-extensions supposed to be?
Will we see a proper parallel taxiway for 14-32 all the way op to the north end?
How about the industrial buildings in Rümlang close to the new west end of 10-28? Will they remain there?

Is there a master plan map available?

Thanks!
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RE: New Swiss Aviation Thread No. 28

Mon Nov 28, 2011 11:53 am

Quoting glidepath73 (Reply 38):
How long are the RWY-extensions supposed to be?

A newspaper article (NZZ) dating back to 2009 mentions 400 meters (RWY14/32) and 450 meters (RWY10/28) respectively. Don't know if these numbers are still valid though.
http://www.nzz.ch/nachrichten/politi...in_die_konsultation_1.3333875.html
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RE: New Swiss Aviation Thread No. 28

Mon Nov 28, 2011 12:12 pm

Only to make sure, isn't there still a popular vote for all changes of the runway's?
I thought this is fixed in the law.
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RE: New Swiss Aviation Thread No. 28

Mon Nov 28, 2011 12:13 pm

Quoting FlySwiss (Reply 40):
Only to make sure, isn't there still a popular vote for all changes of the runway's?
I thought this is fixed in the law.

As far as I know this is the case.
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RE: New Swiss Aviation Thread No. 28

Mon Nov 28, 2011 2:20 pm

Quoting AntonovA330 (Reply 39):
A newspaper article (NZZ) dating back to 2009 mentions 400 meters (RWY14/32) and 450 meters (RWY10/28) respectively. Don't know if these numbers are still valid though.
http://www.nzz.ch/nachrichten/politi....html

Thanks for posting!

Would be nice to see an official masterplan soon!  
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RE: New Swiss Aviation Thread No. 28

Thu Dec 01, 2011 9:26 am

The new Dock B is now open. The first flight to use it was a A 343 LX 289 from Johannesburg.
Here a few pictures:
http://www.flickr.com/photos/swissin...in/set-72157628230674095/lightbox/
 
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RE: New Swiss Aviation Thread No. 28

Thu Dec 01, 2011 11:02 am

With LX236 (CAI) leaving from gate E23, LX16 (JFK) from E52 and LX160 (NRT) from E35, the wall in Dock E in place for US flights must finally be a thing of the past now. The US side used to be from E18-35.

Quoting ZRH (Reply 43):
The new Dock B is now open. The first flight to use it was a A 343 LX 289 from Johannesburg.


  
 
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RE: New Swiss Aviation Thread No. 28

Thu Dec 01, 2011 11:11 am

Quoting ZRH (Reply 43):
The new Dock B is now open. The first flight to use it was a A 343 LX 289 from Johannesburg.




Does this mean we will have even long haul aircraft's on Dock B in the future? Or was the A340 flight just a special thing, for the opening only?
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RE: New Swiss Aviation Thread No. 28

Thu Dec 01, 2011 12:35 pm

Quoting glidepath73 (Reply 45):
Does this mean we will have even long haul aircraft's on Dock B in the future? Or was the A340 flight just a special thing, for the opening only?

The gates are widebody (in fact one is apparently able to handle the A380) so I'd imagine that we could see widebodies. Looking at the ZRH page though it seems to be mainly short haul Euro such as LHR on the D gates.
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RE: New Swiss Aviation Thread No. 28

Thu Dec 01, 2011 12:52 pm

Well, let's order some new planes LX  And you better hurry now  
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RE: New Swiss Aviation Thread No. 28

Thu Dec 01, 2011 4:58 pm

I have been on terrace B today. It is really great, although it is shorter than the old one you see about the same. Unfortunately the terrace E is now again only open on Wednesdays, Saturdays and Sundays and only in Summer like it was before. At the end there are now two taxi-ways, but the inner is only usable for aircrafts with max 36 meters wingspan. This means max A 320 family and B 737. When wide-body aircrafts go to SRTechnics for example they have to use the outer t/w.
 
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RE: New Swiss Aviation Thread No. 28

Thu Dec 01, 2011 8:10 pm

Dock B look nice, really.

Now Dock A should be rebuilt to the same standards. LX deserves something better for its Schengen flights.

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