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Qatar Airways Announces 7 New Routes In 2012

Wed Nov 16, 2011 11:44 am

http://www.ameinfo.com/281304.html

QR announces 7 new routes in 2012

1) Zagreb
2) Perth
3) Gassim
4) Helsinki
5) Kigali
6) Mombasa
7) Zanzibar

[Edited 2011-11-16 04:00:36]
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RE: Qatar Airways Announces 7 New Routes In 2012

Wed Nov 16, 2011 11:57 am

I am dissapointed. I expected at least two points in the USA, and Iraq to be in list. I assume 2 of the last 3 destinations will be linked with one flight.

Perth was long expected from QR before SYD. Cant wait. I assume A332, if it can make it.
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RE: Qatar Airways Announces 7 New Routes In 2012

Wed Nov 16, 2011 11:59 am

Quoting ojas (Thread starter):
Kigali
6) Mombasa
7) Rwanda

Kigali is Rwanda. The 7th destination is Zanzibar.
 
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RE: Qatar Airways Announces 7 New Routes In 2012

Wed Nov 16, 2011 12:01 pm

Quoting QatarA340 (Reply 1):
I assume A332, if it can make it.

I read in the paper here in PER today that QR are planning to use the 77L for PER.
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RE: Qatar Airways Announces 7 New Routes In 2012

Wed Nov 16, 2011 12:08 pm

I would have thought that QR would have announced more UK destinations by now, eg BHX or EDI.
 
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RE: Qatar Airways Announces 7 New Routes In 2012

Wed Nov 16, 2011 12:10 pm

Good news for Zagreb! Wonder if it will be direct or will they link it with some other city. Maybe Skopje or maybe if Sofia or Bucharest can go independent and the same happen as with Budapest?

One problem for ZAG is that they do not fly to SYD...

[Edited 2011-11-16 04:19:38]
 
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RE: Qatar Airways Announces 7 New Routes In 2012

Wed Nov 16, 2011 12:11 pm

Quoting QatarA340 (Reply 1):

Perth was long expected from QR before SYD. Cant wait. I assume A332, if it can make it.

DOH-PER is 9318km. There should be no problems there.

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RE: Qatar Airways Announces 7 New Routes In 2012

Wed Nov 16, 2011 12:21 pm

One stop to Croatia... only issue is that it juuussssttt stops a little short of the Dalmatian Coast   (SPU/DBV would have been nice  )

Zagreb would definitely be on the radar for an open-jaw trip in future however. Very interesting!

DOH-ZAG is narrowbody territory, yeah?
 
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RE: Qatar Airways Announces 7 New Routes In 2012

Wed Nov 16, 2011 12:22 pm

Quoting ju068 (Reply 5):
One problem for ZAG is that they do not fly to SYD...

not a problem when the majority of the Croat and Serb diaspora in Australia is centred in the city they already fly to... MEL

FYI: the rule of thumb is basically this:

MEL - larger diaspora from Southern Europe: from Italy all the way through the former Yugoslavia to Greece. As well as South Asia (India/Sri Lanka) and S.E. Asia - Singapore & Malaysia in particular.
SYD - larger diaspora from the Middle East: Turkey, Lebanon & Egypt in particular & East and North Asia (China, Japan and Korea).

either city will have some from the rough groupings, but generally that's where the largest ethnic enclaves are respectively in MEL and SYD.

and PER? Brits! hah.

[Edited 2011-11-16 04:33:31]
 
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RE: Qatar Airways Announces 7 New Routes In 2012

Wed Nov 16, 2011 12:45 pm

A route launch announcement of the calibre of SFO or LAX would warrant its own dedicated press release and conference along with some showbiz gala event. These cities do not hence for an expected LAX announcement for 2012, stay tuned because it will definitely help feed the massive planned expansion of QR's Iran bound flights in S12.
 
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RE: Qatar Airways Announces 7 New Routes In 2012

Wed Nov 16, 2011 1:21 pm

Quoting seansasLCY (Reply 2):
Quoting ojas (Thread starter):
Kigali
6) Mombasa
7) Rwanda

Kigali is Rwanda. The 7th destination is Zanzibar.

Great news for the East African Community, more businessmen and more tourists will enjoy the beauty of this Continent. While TK made an announcement last July for Kigali route, I was expecting Emirates faster than QR on those destinations, at least on MBA.
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RE: Qatar Airways Announces 7 New Routes In 2012

Wed Nov 16, 2011 4:53 pm

Quoting ojas (Thread starter):
5) Kigali

Very good move - tourist, business and NGO traffic abound here. Undeserved as well, I hear KLM does well on this route.


Quoting ojas (Thread starter):
7) Zanzibar

Now THAT'S a layover I want to have. I'm assuming this route is going A320? It'll be a nice reprieve those folks...the 320 crew really get shafted with their rosters at QR just by nature of the routes the 320 plies.

Quoting ojas (Thread starter):
2) Perth

Long awaited, glad to see finally come to fruition.

Quoting QatarA340 (Reply 1):
I am dissapointed. I expected at least two points in the USA, and Iraq to be in list. I assume 2 of the last 3 destinations will be linked with one flight.

I'd imagine US flights will be announced separately, I would be really very surprised if QR didn't expand westwards in the US in 2012.

Quoting CXB77L (Reply 3):
I read in the paper here in PER today that QR are planning to use the 77L for PER.

That's what I hear from galley gossip from QR crew as well.

Quoting eastafspot (Reply 10):
While TK made an announcement last July for Kigali route, I was expecting Emirates faster than QR on those destinations

Hmmm who knows? We may not be far behind  
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RE: Qatar Airways Announces 7 New Routes In 2012

Wed Nov 16, 2011 5:09 pm

Quoting seansasLCY (Reply 2):

Kigali is Rwanda. The 7th destination is Zanzibar.

Zanzibar, in Tanzania is a very interesting choice for QR. EK flies to Dar es Salaam (I forget if they use an A330 or a 777) which is a much larger airport. Kilimanjaro airport near Arusha is also much larger than Zanzibar, and sees heavy tourist traffic. Zanzibar is a very popular tourist destination, but most travellers probably fly to the mainland first before taking either the ferry or a plane to Zanzibar.
DAR-Zanzibar is a very quick flight-- the shortest commercial flight I've been on actually. Total flight time was about 10 minutes.
 
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RE: Qatar Airways Announces 7 New Routes In 2012

Wed Nov 16, 2011 5:17 pm

Fantastic news for PER! Definitely exciting times ahead.
 
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RE: Qatar Airways Announces 7 New Routes In 2012

Wed Nov 16, 2011 5:44 pm

Quoting bonusonus (Reply 12):
Zanzibar, in Tanzania is a very interesting choice for QR. EK flies to Dar es Salaam (I forget if they use an A330 or a 777) which is a much larger airport. Kilimanjaro airport near Arusha is also much larger than Zanzibar, and sees heavy tourist traffic. Zanzibar is a very popular tourist destination, but most travellers probably fly to the mainland first before taking either the ferry or a plane to Zanzibar.
DAR-Zanzibar is a very quick flight-- the shortest commercial flight I've been on actually. Total flight time was about 10 minutes.

-EK flies actually A345 to DAR es Salaam, daily,

-QR flies twice a day however the first one in via NBO, so maybe they can re-route that flight.

-Oman Air also flies to DAR via ZNZ a few times a week.

-Ethiopian also flies to ZNZ, direct from ADD with Dash-8 (or they used to do, very late in the night) and also via DAR.

-Very big Arabian comunity in ZNZ and lot of cargo coming from Asia (China, Malaysia..) and Middle east.


-Kigali is a good choice, the country is going forward very fast, and more and more routes are added.

-Mombassa is a nice surprise, not many international regular flights.

-KQ is going to be hurt a lot in KGL, MBA and ZNZ.
 
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RE: Qatar Airways Announces 7 New Routes In 2012

Wed Nov 16, 2011 6:45 pm

Does anyone know if service to ACC is in QR's plans?
 
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RE: Qatar Airways Announces 7 New Routes In 2012

Wed Nov 16, 2011 6:46 pm

While the details aren't out as of now, I foresee the new destinations operated as follows:

1) DOH - PER non stop B77L timings somewhat similar to MEL

2) DOH - HEL non stop using an A319LR

3) DOH - ZAG ... might be a non stop.

4) DOH - KGL should be going via EBB

5) DOH - MBA - ZNZ and v.v

Quoting kotoka (Reply 15):
Does anyone know if service to ACC is in QR's plans?

Yes, in fact I had heard that ACC was to come online this December itself.

[Edited 2011-11-16 10:48:04]
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RE: Qatar Airways Announces 7 New Routes In 2012

Wed Nov 16, 2011 8:27 pm

Quoting ojas (Thread starter):
4) Helsinki

Great news! Good to have more choices to Asia especially, more competition against AY.

Quoting ojas (Reply 16):
2) DOH - HEL non stop using an A319LR

A319LR sounds cool for a start, can't wait to get onboard  
 
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RE: Qatar Airways Announces 7 New Routes In 2012

Wed Nov 16, 2011 8:46 pm

Quoting HELyes (Reply 17):
A319LR sounds cool for a start, can't wait to get onboard

Those QR 319LRs are quite plush too. It'd be nice to fly an A319 on a medium haul flight. Just to try it out, you know?
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RE: Qatar Airways Announces 7 New Routes In 2012

Wed Nov 16, 2011 8:57 pm

Quoting sq_ek_freak (Reply 18):
Those QR 319LRs are quite plush too.

I hope SeatGuru got it wrong (often does): seat pitch 30", width 17,5" in Y... anyways, welcome QR!
 
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RE: Qatar Airways Announces 7 New Routes In 2012

Wed Nov 16, 2011 10:08 pm

Quoting ojas (Reply 16):
Quoting kotoka (Reply 15):Does anyone know if service to ACC is in QR's plans?
Yes, in fact I had heard that ACC was to come online this December itself.

I heard that as well with 4 weeklies A330 and someone did mention it is on the GDS..
I though they might add a tag on LOS or work as a triangle route DOH-LOS-AC-DOH
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RE: Qatar Airways Announces 7 New Routes In 2012

Wed Nov 16, 2011 10:31 pm

I am going to ZNZ next Sept.....this is going to work for me!

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RE: Qatar Airways Announces 7 New Routes In 2012

Wed Nov 16, 2011 10:50 pm

Slightly related question...whats the delivery schedule for the first A380's and B787's? Where would QR be sending these new birds?
 
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RE: Qatar Airways Announces 7 New Routes In 2012

Wed Nov 16, 2011 10:55 pm

Another option from LHR to PER, just as long as they dont use the 3-4-3 setup some other carriers in the area and I might be tempted to try it out.

Any ideas of schedules yet for the routes?
 
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RE: Qatar Airways Announces 7 New Routes In 2012

Thu Nov 17, 2011 12:24 am

Quoting EUFlyer (Reply 23):
just as long as they dont use the 3-4-3 setup some other carriers in the area and I might be tempted to try it out.

I'll be very surprised if QR changes from their current 3-3-3 layout. Especially, now that they are advertising their 5-star skytrax airline of the year status.

Anyway, I love that they are starting PER, gives me a second option to get to OSL from PER one stop, with the only other option being TG. Now, if they joined Star Alliance I would be a very happy camper!

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RE: Qatar Airways Announces 7 New Routes In 2012

Thu Nov 17, 2011 12:35 am

Quoting CXB77L (Reply 3):

I read in the paper here in PER today that QR are planning to use the 77L for PER.

Yep, thats whats printed in the West Australian.

Second new Air route for Perth within a couple of months which is great news, neither of them Qantas of course.
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RE: Qatar Airways Announces 7 New Routes In 2012

Thu Nov 17, 2011 1:47 am

Quoting ju068 (Reply 5):
One problem for ZAG is that they do not fly to SYD...
Quoting tayser (Reply 8):
either city will have some from the rough groupings, but generally that's where the largest ethnic enclaves are respectively in MEL and SYD.

Exactly back in the days of JAT flying the DC-10 MEL was the big destination!

To add to that list, the Germans and other northern europeans are generally around Queensland and South Australia though the far north of queensland does have a substantial Sicilian .. That's why you find more blondes in Queensland. It's also why Melbourne is more fashionable.
 
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RE: Qatar Airways Announces 7 New Routes In 2012

Thu Nov 17, 2011 1:54 am

With PER now in line, I guess QR will terminate its existing code share with MH on KUL-PER vv.
 
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RE: Qatar Airways Announces 7 New Routes In 2012

Thu Nov 17, 2011 2:22 am

Quoting bevisisback (Reply 22):
Any ideas of schedules yet for the routes?
Quoting ojas (Reply 16):
1) DOH - PER non stop B77L timings somewhat similar to MEL


I'm hazarding a guess but if QR's flight from DOH - MEL departs at 01:00 (local) and if the PER flight departs around the same time then the arrival into PER should be around 16:00 so PER spotters should be able to catch QR in the daylight. I think the flight times will be similar to PER's afternoon/evening Emirates's service.

Big Congrats to QR and PER. Its been a long time coming and I thought EY might of beaten them to PER due to the tie up with VA. Gaining CZ and QR recently makes up for loosing BI a couple of weeks ago.
 
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RE: Qatar Airways Announces 7 New Routes In 2012

Thu Nov 17, 2011 3:08 am

Quoting 9MMPD (Reply 28):
I'm hazarding a guess but if QR's flight from DOH - MEL departs at 01:00 (local) and if the PER flight departs around the same time then the arrival into PER should be around 16:00 so PER spotters should be able to catch QR in the daylight. I think the flight times will be similar to PER's afternoon/evening Emirates's service

I would assume they will be quite like EK420/421

Catch the morning connections to Europe, and catch the connections from Europe that land in DOH around midnight.

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RE: Qatar Airways Announces 7 New Routes In 2012

Thu Nov 17, 2011 9:06 am

Quoting LondonCity (Reply 4):
I would have thought that QR would have announced more UK destinations by now, eg BHX or EDI.

Or even NCL! The EK flights are going out full every day!

Quoting sq_ek_freak (Reply 11):
Now THAT'S a layover I want to have. I'm assuming this route is going A320? It'll be a nice reprieve those folks...the 320 crew really get shafted with their rosters at QR just by nature of the routes the 320 plies.

Visited here a few years ago and is such a fabulous island - nicest beach I've ever plonked myself down on. When I went there, am pretty sure the runway was only long enough to handle small props, so had to go via NBO. Very cute airport and great news that customers now have a good choice to fly there on.

Quoting bonusonus (Reply 12):
Zanzibar, in Tanzania is a very interesting choice for QR. EK flies to Dar es Salaam (I forget if they use an A330 or a 777) which is a much larger airport. Kilimanjaro airport near Arusha is also much larger than Zanzibar, and sees heavy tourist traffic. Zanzibar is a very popular tourist destination, but most travellers probably fly to the mainland first before taking either the ferry or a plane to Zanzibar.
DAR-Zanzibar is a very quick flight-- the shortest commercial flight I've been on actually. Total flight time was about 10 minutes.

ZNZ is a very up-and-coming destination and I think tour operators and travel agents are clamouring to get seats on flights there. Expansion at the airport has had a knock on expansion (not always in a good way) on the island. The great thing about ZNZ is that it's not as seasonal as say much of Thailand warranting leisure traffic year round, as well as business traffic.
 
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RE: Qatar Airways Announces 7 New Routes In 2012

Thu Nov 17, 2011 10:20 am

Qatar Airways announces Perth Schedule:

Effective 3rd July

QR 900 DOH - PER 0150 1815 Tu, Th, Sa 11hrs 25mins
QR 901 PER - DOH 2230 0520+1 Tu, Th, Sa 11hrs 50mins

Aircraft: A330-200
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RE: Qatar Airways Announces 7 New Routes In 2012

Thu Nov 17, 2011 10:54 am

^ no surprise but it ties in with the MEL schedule.

current DOH-MEL-DOH schedule (From google)

1:00 am → 10:30 pm DOH-MEL S M T W T F S Qatar 30 13h 30m duration

11:59 pm → 6:15 am MEL-DOH S M T W T F S Qatar 31 14h 16m duration

edit: aircraft is 77L

edit x2: DOTARS doesnt link to a specific treaty (as it says it's under negotiation) but does anyone, locally, know what Qatari airlines have access to the 4 mainland ports that usually fall under Air Services agreements? 14x weekly 21x? more?

http://www.infrastructure.gov.au/avi...tion/international/agreements.aspx

[Edited 2011-11-17 02:58:18]
 
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RE: Qatar Airways Announces 7 New Routes In 2012

Sun Nov 20, 2011 4:50 pm

QR CEO Al Baker announces BEG, KBP and LED, apart from already mentioned destinations in an interview at http://www.arabianbusiness.com/qatar...-new-routes-over-year-430624.html.

“We are also planning to go to Perth, Zagreb, Belgrade, Kiev, Helsinki, St Petersburg and many other destinations within the next 12 months. Fifteen new destinations in the next 12 months.”

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