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First CO 764 With E+ And Lie Flat Enters Service

Fri Nov 18, 2011 4:10 pm

Hope I'm on this aircraft from IAH to FRA on 11/30!

- Economy Plus seats
- Lie flat Business First
- AVOD in both cabins
- Channel 9!

Talk about best of both worlds.

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RE: First CO 764 With E+ And Lie Flat Enters Service

Fri Nov 18, 2011 4:16 pm

Quoting airlineaddict (Thread starter):
Hope I'm on this aircraft from IAH to FRA on 11/30!

Sorry, but it will be taking me to HNL that day!!!   

Only kidding, but it would be nice. Anyone know what Ship Number it is?
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RE: First CO 764 With E+ And Lie Flat Enters Service

Fri Nov 18, 2011 4:25 pm

This was briefly mentioned in the United/Continental Existing Fleet Upgrade Status 7 thread.

Quoting IAHFLYR (Reply 1):
Sorry, but it will be taking me to HNL that day!!!

Wish the 76Hs were also getting the upgrades, but alas no.   

Quoting IAHFLYR (Reply 1):
Only kidding, but it would be nice. Anyone know what Ship Number it is?

# 060 will be the first. Not sure if there's a schedule out but those birds would be a nice ride when the entire 764 fleet is done!
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RE: First CO 764 With E+ And Lie Flat Enters Service

Fri Nov 18, 2011 4:37 pm

I know that the BusinessFirst seats will be the B/E Aerospace Diamond. However, with the new AVOD and Y+ installation, will the existing seats be retained (although with the new monitors installed), or will new seats be installed? If new seats are installed, will they be B/E Aerospace Pinnacle?
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RE: First CO 764 With E+ And Lie Flat Enters Service

Fri Nov 18, 2011 4:41 pm

Quoting 1337Delta764 (Reply 3):
I know that the BusinessFirst seats will be the B/E Aerospace Diamond. However, with the new AVOD and Y+ installation, will the existing seats be retained (although with the new monitors installed), or will new seats be installed? If new seats are installed, will they be B/E Aerospace Pinnacle?

They're new seats.
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RE: First CO 764 With E+ And Lie Flat Enters Service

Fri Nov 18, 2011 4:48 pm

What's the capacity on these 767-424ERs after the mods?
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RE: First CO 764 With E+ And Lie Flat Enters Service

Fri Nov 18, 2011 4:59 pm

I look forward to seeing some interior pics in the near future.

When are they adding Y+ etc to the Internation 757 fleets. Are they starting that soon?
 
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RE: First CO 764 With E+ And Lie Flat Enters Service

Fri Nov 18, 2011 5:01 pm

Quoting Sulley (Reply 4):
They're new seats.

Do you happen to know the model? I presume they are B/E Aerospace Pinnacle considering that is what CO had installed on their Sky Interior 737s. I could be wrong though. Koito (CO's longtime preferred Y seat supplier) is out of the question due to their fabrication of safety tests. The Weber 5751 could be another possibility considering UA has them on their IPTE 772ERs.

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Fri Nov 18, 2011 5:47 pm

Quoting FlyCaledonian (Reply 5):
What's the capacity on these 767-424ERs after the mods?

39J / 91 Y+ / 112 Y
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RE: First CO 764 With E+ And Lie Flat Enters Service

Fri Nov 18, 2011 6:26 pm

Quoting aznmadsci (Reply 8):
39J / 91 Y+ / 112 Y

vs 35 / 200 before. where did the extra 7 seats come from when they supposedly took seats out for e+?
 
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Fri Nov 18, 2011 6:28 pm

Quoting aznmadsci (Reply 8):
39J / 91 Y+ / 112 Y

this is a net increase of 4J and 3Y(and Y+) seating from the original configuration of 35J/200Y. I wonder if any lavs, closets or galleys were removed to make room for the additional seating or if the additional seating is a result of the slimline seats only.
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RE: First CO 764 With E+ And Lie Flat Enters Service

Fri Nov 18, 2011 7:35 pm

Quoting fun2fly (Reply 9):
vs 35 / 200 before. where did the extra 7 seats come from when they supposedly took seats out for e+?
Quoting cslusarc (Reply 10):
this is a net increase of 4J and 3Y(and Y+) seating from the original configuration of 35J/200Y. I wonder if any lavs, closets or galleys were removed to make room for the additional seating or if the additional seating is a result of the slimline seats only.

I wonder if non-E+ seats are down to 31" of pitch vs. 32" currently.
 
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Fri Nov 18, 2011 9:29 pm

Quoting airlineaddict (Reply 11):

I wonder if non-E+ seats are down to 31" of pitch vs. 32" currently.

The back of the aircraft now has 15 rows of Y, equaling 105 seats. Removing an inch of pitch gets you 15 inches, not enough for an additional row at 31 inches pitch. Maybe going to 31 inches plus reducing the legroom in the bulkhead row or reducing last row's recline up against the doorway gets the extra 16 inches needed? In any case it looks like 112Y is the result.

The middle of the aircraft now has 14 rows minus the middle seats in the last row, equaling 95. I think the Lav got removed and one row removed, giving a total of 91 Y+ seats.

Up front, lavs closets and galleys take up two seats each. So, either 2 lavs were removed, or a lav plus a closet/galley or the closet and the galley. that would get 4 extra seats. I don't think the aircraft is going from 8 lavs to 5, but DL's got 6 lavs on their 764 with a few more seats.
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RE: First CO 764 With E+ And Lie Flat Enters Service

Fri Nov 18, 2011 9:36 pm

Will the fleet number change for N67060? Under CO it was 060, and became 0060 when UNITED titles were applied, so now there has been a configuration change will we see a revised fleet number like with PMUA aircraft?
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RE: First CO 764 With E+ And Lie Flat Enters Service

Sat Nov 19, 2011 12:59 am

Tail number 0060 is N78060
 
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RE: First CO 764 With E+ And Lie Flat Enters Service

Sat Nov 19, 2011 1:04 am

Heard the mid-galley is gone. Gonna be interesting! Feel bad for the FA's
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RE: First CO 764 With E+ And Lie Flat Enters Service

Sat Nov 19, 2011 2:56 am

Quoting CALPSAFltSkeds (Reply 12):
Up front, lavs closets and galleys take up two seats each. So, either 2 lavs were removed, or a lav plus a closet/galley or the closet and the galley. that would get 4 extra seats. I don't think the aircraft is going from 8 lavs to 5, but DL's got 6 lavs on their 764 with a few more seats.

In BF, a lav and closet are gone to give the 4 extra seats where last row becomes 2-0-2. As for Y+ I believe it's 34" pitch.
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RE: First CO 764 With E+ And Lie Flat Enters Service

Sat Nov 19, 2011 3:42 pm

I remember flying to the UK on a 767 in BF and had the wonderful single seat in the middle, guess that has gone now with the new layout.   
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RE: First CO 764 With E+ And Lie Flat Enters Service

Sat Nov 19, 2011 3:46 pm

Quoting readytotaxi (Reply 17):

I remember flying to the UK on a 767 in BF and had the wonderful single seat in the middle, guess that has gone now with the new layout.   
No seat plan yet on CO web site.

The seats should be 2-1-2 as before.
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RE: First CO 764 With E+ And Lie Flat Enters Service

Sat Nov 19, 2011 3:54 pm

Quoting United1 (Reply 18):
The seats should be 2-1-2 as before.

Wow, that single is going to be popular.  
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RE: First CO 764 With E+ And Lie Flat Enters Service

Sat Nov 19, 2011 4:43 pm

Quoting CALPSAFltSkeds (Reply 12):
The back of the aircraft now has 15 rows of Y, equaling 105 seats. Removing an inch of pitch gets you 15 inches, not enough for an additional row at 31 inches pitch. Maybe going to 31 inches plus reducing the legroom in the bulkhead row or reducing last row's recline up against the doorway gets the extra 16 inches needed? In any case it looks like 112Y is the result.

Switching to slimline seats would probably gain you an inch a row so if the pitch becomes 31" (from 32") and you install slimline seats you end up with room for an extra row.

Pull out one of the mid cabin lavs (reducing from 8 to 7 lavs onboard) and you get room for 3 more Y seats by the number 3 doors. Pull out a row for Y+ and presto you end up with 91 seats in Y+.

Pull out the closet and outboard galley by the number 2 doors and you should be able to fit in 4 more J class seats.
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Sat Nov 19, 2011 8:10 pm

Quoting United1 (Reply 20):
Pull out one of the mid cabin lavs (reducing from 8 to 7 lavs onboard) and you get room for 3 more Y seats by the number 3 doors. Pull out a row for Y+ and presto you end up with 91 seats in Y+.

The lav that would make sense to remove (Row 29) is posted as wheelchair accessible on the CO website. There are wheelchair accessible lavs on the 772 and 762. Maybe the center lav just behind the Row 29 lav was enlarged for wheelchairs.

Quoting United1 (Reply 20):
Switching to slimline seats would probably gain you an inch a row so if the pitch becomes 31" (from 32") and you install slimline seats you end up with room for an extra row.

With slimline seats, 31 would feel like 32, I assume, but regardless of slimline or not, the pitch is calculated the same way. So, it would take 30 inch pitch to gain the extra row (15 rows X 2 inches = 30 inches). Could it be the pitch will be 30, feeling like 31?
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RE: First CO 764 With E+ And Lie Flat Enters Service

Sat Nov 19, 2011 8:58 pm

Any info on where the first flight is headed today?
 
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RE: First CO 764 With E+ And Lie Flat Enters Service

Sat Nov 19, 2011 10:06 pm

The routing is HKG-HNL-EWR.

They're actually letting employees list for it, but it has no revenue pax.
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RE: First CO 764 With E+ And Lie Flat Enters Service

Sat Nov 19, 2011 10:20 pm

Here is a question. Is the AVOD system fitted during these refits the CO system with the CO content or the UA system that's appearing in the 777 refits?
As far as I'm aware the CO system offers a lot more content that the UA one?

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RE: First CO 764 With E+ And Lie Flat Enters Service

Sun Nov 20, 2011 6:58 am

Quoting CALPSAFltSkeds (Reply 21):
The lav that would make sense to remove (Row 29) is posted as wheelchair accessible on the CO website. There are wheelchair accessible lavs on the 772 and 762. Maybe the center lav just behind the Row 29 lav was enlarged for wheelchairs
Quoting CALPSAFltSkeds (Reply 21):
Could it be the pitch will be 30, feeling like 31?

Go to Continental.com and do a search for the flight status of flight 9817 and the new seat map will come up.

They list the configuration as: 242 (39 BusinessFirst, 70 Economy Plus, 133 Economy Class.) Not the 39J/91Y+/112Y as reported above although looking at the seat map I can certainly understand why one would think that.


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RE: First CO 764 With E+ And Lie Flat Enters Service

Sun Nov 20, 2011 7:11 am

Aircraft is currently in route from HKG-HNL most likely for a crew change and fuel stop and then headed HNL-EWR where it will arrive on Sunday, it will stay in EWR for a couple of days and then it will ferry EWR-IAH. Currently the first scheduled revenue service is IAH-AMS CO46 on NOV 24th.
 
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Sun Nov 20, 2011 11:12 pm

This is a change from last post regarding aircraft routing of aircraft 060. Currently these are a list of flights to be flown in the next several days.

CO107-23NOV EWR-IAH
CO129-23NOV IAH-GIG
CO128-24NOV GIG-IAH
CO129-25NOV IAH-GIG
CO128-26NOV GIG-IAH
CO1-27NOV IAH-HNL.
 
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Sun Nov 20, 2011 11:43 pm

Surely one of our CO friends will post some photos soon!

Amazing they added 7 seats to the a/c, with 4 of them BF significantly increasing revenue potential. It's only 11 BF's short of a 772!

How will this compare to the newly reconfigured PMUA 763's?
 
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Mon Nov 21, 2011 12:07 am

Quoting United1 (Reply 26):
They list the configuration as: 242 (39 BusinessFirst, 70 Economy Plus, 133 Economy Class.) Not the 39J/91Y+/112Y as reported above although looking at the seat map I can certainly understand why one would think that.

Based on the seat map, we can confirm the one Y mid lav is removed and the closet/and galley are removed in BF. the Y+ vs. Y split may make more sense as 91Y+ may seem heavy.

However, if you look at Seat Guru vs. the CO map, the two lavs behind door three appear to be moved in front of the door. One row (plus seat pairs where the lavs were) has been removed from the from Y section and space allocated to the 91 Y+ rows. 17 rows replace the 15 current rows in the back section, but the lavs have been moved out of that section. Maybe 31 inch pitch vs. 32 plus the lav removal picks up the 2 rows.
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Mon Nov 21, 2011 12:12 am

Hey whats happening with Public Relations, and Marketing at UA?
They aren't showing any photos of the new interior. The same thing happened with 777-224/ER new interior.
I hope that in the new CO ( UA) they will get better in this.
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Mon Nov 21, 2011 2:09 am

I wonder what the interior is, I must assume it's totally CO with light blue bulkheads and walls with the mini squiggly pattern? And the Y seats? And will UA continue with the silver with a navy wainscoting?

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Mon Nov 21, 2011 6:48 am

Quoting SHAQ (Reply 31):
Hey whats happening with Public Relations, and Marketing at UA?
They aren't showing any photos of the new interior. The same thing happened with 777-224/ER new interior.
I hope that in the new CO ( UA) they will get better in this.

Agreed. Delta would likely have a detailed blog post, several pictures, perhaps a video, a few photos uploaded to Facebook and tweets for good measure! They have committed to an effective use of social networking and unequivocally get it right. For new United, it seems like an afterthought.

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Mon Nov 21, 2011 7:23 am

Quoting CODC10 (Reply 33):
They have committed to an effective use of social networking and unequivocally get it right. For new United, it seems like an afterthought.

Very much agreed -- neither airline was particularly gifted in this area. CO had/has a more user-friendly website and its mobile app has been adopted by the combined entity, but active outreach/disseminating information and marketing through social media was never strong, and never integrated. Hmmm. I *did* want a job in Chicago...
 
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Tue Nov 22, 2011 4:15 am

Quoting robo65 (Reply 28):
This is a change from last post regarding aircraft routing of aircraft 060. Currently these are a list of flights to be flown in the next several days.

CO107-23NOV EWR-IAH
CO129-23NOV IAH-GIG
CO128-24NOV GIG-IAH
CO129-25NOV IAH-GIG
CO128-26NOV GIG-IAH
CO1-27NOV IAH-HNL.

Interesting. I hope they will make IAH-GIG a route for the new 764 as probably is among their best performers, as soon as they have 2 frames available.
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Tue Nov 22, 2011 6:42 pm

ANy updates on the schedule?

I'm flying IAH-FRA Sunday evening on CO and would love to get the "new" bird  
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Tue Nov 22, 2011 7:01 pm

Quoting robo65 (Reply 28):
CO1-27NOV IAH-HNL.

And then maybe it will go through to Guam, and end up back at IAH on morning of 30 NOV from HNL to return to HNL as Flight 1.   
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Tue Nov 22, 2011 7:04 pm

Quoting LipeGIG (Reply 35):
Interesting. I hope they will make IAH-GIG a route for the new 764 as probably is among their best performers, as soon as they have 2 frames available

That route needs a 3 class PMUA 777.
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Wed Nov 23, 2011 2:24 am

Quoting STT757 (Reply 38):
That route needs a 3 class PMUA 777.

I hope they do that in the near future. The recent Chevron problem in Rio required more than 150 last minute workers that probably paid high fares from IAH (mostly) and other oil routes.
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Wed Nov 23, 2011 2:54 am

Quoting IAHFLYR (Reply 37):
Quoting robo65 (Reply 28):
CO1-27NOV IAH-HNL.

And then maybe it will go through to Guam, and end up back at IAH on morning of 30 NOV from HNL to return to HNL as Flight 1.

HNL-GUM is flown by a PMUA 772 these days.

Quoting CODC10 (Reply 33):
Come on, CO/UA, you can do better than this!

It's kind of odd that they haven't posted anything yet...PMUA had pics of the first IPTE 772 up fairly quickly.
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Sat Nov 26, 2011 5:20 am

There are a couple pics of the new configuration up on another website. I'ts the standard PMCO colors in J and Y class...
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Sat Nov 26, 2011 8:39 pm

Quoting United1 (Reply 41):

Please, give us the link or show us the photos  
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Sat Nov 26, 2011 8:49 pm

Hopefully, the PMCO pilots will make From the Flight Deck available.

Quoting 1337Delta764 (Reply 7):
Koito (CO's longtime preferred Y seat supplier) is out of the question due to their fabrication of safety tests.

Not to mention the fact that those seats are universally hated, because they are less comfortable than a park bench.

Quoting fun2fly (Reply 9):

Quoting aznmadsci (Reply 8):
39J / 91 Y+ / 112 Y

vs 35 / 200 before. where did the extra 7 seats come from when they supposedly took seats out for e+?

They took out a lav.

Quoting United1 (Reply 40):
HNL-GUM is flown by a PMUA 772 these days.

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Sat Nov 26, 2011 9:54 pm

Quoting SHAQ (Reply 42):
Quoting United1 (Reply 41):

Please, give us the link or show us the photos

Google First Continental aircraft with Economy Plus is here
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Sat Nov 26, 2011 10:27 pm

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CO 1 - 27 NOV IAH - HNL
CO 2 - 27 NOV HNL - IAH
CO 106 - 28 NOV IAH - EWR
CO 106 - 28 NOV EWR - MUC
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Sat Nov 26, 2011 10:42 pm

Quoting N1120A (Reply 43):

Not to mention the fact that those seats are universally hated, because they are less comfortable than a park bench.

My guess is the new 764ER seats are B/E Aerospace Pinnacle, considering they have PMCO cloth.
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RE: First CO 764 With E+ And Lie Flat Enters Service

Sat Nov 26, 2011 10:58 pm

Quoting 1337Delta764 (Reply 46):
My guess is the new 764ER seats are B/E Aerospace Pinnacle, considering they have PMCO cloth.

I've been told these seats are Weber 5751 with the Panasonic Eco9i integrated IFE 9" monitors. No more armrest controllers.

If so, a MAJOR improvement.

Quoting CALPSAFltSkeds (Reply 44):
Google First Continental aircraft with Economy Plus is here

Credit to the Wandering Aramean (Seth) and the owner of the photos, link below:

http://boardingarea.com/blogs/thewan...ntinental-767-businessfirst-cabin/

 
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Sun Nov 27, 2011 3:08 am

Quoting CODC10 (Reply 47):
Credit to the Wandering Aramean (Seth) and the owner of the photos, link below:

He would be one of the first to share such pics! Thanks for sharing! Those Y+/Y seats look rather interesting.
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Sun Nov 27, 2011 3:16 am

If they've just been totally redone and the Continental brand is to be dead in literally a day, why do they have BusinessFirst branding in them?

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