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OAG Changes 11/25/2011:AS/CO/DL/NK/US/WN

Wed Nov 23, 2011 9:03 pm

INSTRUCTIONS

WHAT IS THIS REPORT?
This compares what is for sale THIS WEEK for the stated period versus what was for sale LAST WEEK...It does NOT compare to last year or now (UNLESS OTHERWISE STATED).

HOW DO I READ IT?
XXX-YYY DEC 4>5 JAN 4>5 ; means that the listed airline changed the frequency between the two airports to add from 4 to 5 roundtrips in December and January. No other months were changed. I only list one direction, although it is possible the listed change is only one way. It is too difficult to average the two directions. I assume the change is roundtrip and that is most often the case.

HOW ARE THE DAILY DEPARTURES CALCULATED?
This report uses total operations for the month listed, divided over the days in the month.

WHAT ARE THE FRACTIONAL FLIGHTS?
Non-daily operations create fractional weekly service. In most cases flights are rounded, but in the case of international service or markets with low frequency, fractions are shown. If a flight operated 5 days out of 7, it would show 0.8 flights.

WHY ARE THERE WEIRD FREQUENCIES IN FAR AWAY MONTHS FOR LCCs?
Most airlines publish schedules 11 months in advance. This report covers the next 9 months. That avoids seeing schedules as they are loaded. Several LCCs load their schedules less than 9 months into the future. Their schedules may also end mid-month. If B6 loads their schedule until Jan15, all flights in Janaury will show half frequency because of the way the report is created.

WHY IS A WHOLE AIRLINE'S SCHEDULE SHOWN AS CHANGING FOR A FUTURE MONTH?
Similarly to the previous question, some airlines load their schedule from nothing inside the 9 month window of this report. When their schedule is extended it will show as new service because there was no previous schedule to compare to. In some instances I will show a more valid comparison against another period.

THOSE FLIGHTS AREN'T DELTA, THEY ARE PINNACLE
This report only shows the marketing code. It is too complicated to show all the operators.

THE FREQUENCIES MAY HAVE CHANGED AS YOU SHOW, BUT THE SEATS DIDNT CHANGE BECAUSE OF EQUIPMENT SWAPS
That is a natural weakness of a frequency based report, but it provides something to discuss below.

THE FREQUENCY DOESN'T SHOW A CHANGE, E.G. 4>4
This happens as a result of rounding. There is a change in service that is large enough to be listed, but through rounding it does not appear.

I marked some of the ones I thought were interesting with an "*".



4O SAT-TLC DEC 0>0.4 JAN 0>0.5 FEB 0>0.4 MAR 0>0.4 APR 0>0.4 MAY 0>0.5 JUN 0>0.4 JUL 0>0.5

5H LWA-NYK DEC 0>0.6 JAN 0>0.8 FEB 0>0.9 MAR 0>0.9 APR 0>0.3 MAY 0>0.3 JUN 0>0.3 JUL 0>0.3

9K SJU-VQS MAY 9>8 JUN 9>8 JUL 9>8
9K STX-VQS MAY 1.0>0.2 JUN 1.0>0 JUL 1.0>0
9K VQS-SJU JUN 8>7 JUL 8>7

AB JFK-DUS JAN 0.5>0.2 FEB 0.5>0

AF DTW-CDG JAN 1.0>0.9 FEB 1.0>0.9
This moved to DL didn't it?
*AF SEA-CDG MAR 0.8>0.5 APR 1.0>0 MAY 1.0>0 JUN 1.0>0 JUL 1.0>0

AM LAS-MTY JAN 0.6>0.4 FEB 0.6>0.4
AM MCO-MEX DEC 1.9>3

AS LAX-MZT JUN 0.6>0.4 JUL 0.6>0.4
AS LAX-PVR JUN 1.2>1.0 JUL 1.1>1.0
AS LAX-SJD JUN 2>1.7 JUL 2>1.7
AS LAX-ZLO APR 0.7>0.4 MAY 0.3>0.1
AS SAN-SJD APR 1.3>1.1 MAY 1.4>1.1
AS SEA-DFW MAR 3>2
AS SEA-PHX MAR 6>7

B6 BOS-RDU MAR 3>4 APR 3>4
B6 FLL-SJU MAY 3>4 JUN 4>6 JUL 4>6

CO AUS-CUN JUN 0>0.1 JUL 0>0.1
CO CLE-CVG MAR 3>1.5
CO CLE-MHT MAR 3>1.6 APR 3>1.6
CO CLE-NAS APR 0.3>0.1
CO CLE-PVD MAR 3>1.6 APR 4>1.6
CO CLE-RDU MAR 4>3 APR 4>3
CO CLE-RSW APR 3>1.9
CO CLE-SBN MAR 3>1.5 APR 3>1.4
CO CLE-SDF APR 4>3
CO CLE-STL MAR 1.6>3 APR 1.4>3
CO CLE-TPA MAR 3>1.9 APR 3>1.9
CO DEN-ANC JUN 0>0.8 JUL 0>1.0
CO DEN-BWI APR 0>1.0
CO DEN-LGA APR 0>2
CO DEN-PHL APR 0>1.0
CO DEN-PHX APR 0>2
CO DEN-TPA APR 0>1.0
*CO EWR-AMS MAR 1.3>1.0 APR 2>1.0 MAY 2>1.0 JUN 2>1.0 JUL 2>1.0
CO EWR-ANU FEB 0.9>1.1
CO EWR-ATL FEB 6>4
CO EWR-AUA APR 1.6>1.4
CO EWR-BCN APR 1.0>0.8
CO EWR-BDA APR 1.5>1.3
CO EWR-BDL MAR 3>4 APR 3>4
CO EWR-BHX APR 0.9>0.7
CO EWR-BUF MAR 6>5 APR 6>5
CO EWR-CLT FEB 5>4
CO EWR-CMH FEB 5>4
CO EWR-CPH APR 0.9>0.7
CO EWR-CUN MAR 4>3 JUL 4>3
CO EWR-DEL APR 1.0>0.9
CO EWR-DEN APR 5>6
CO EWR-DTW FEB 5>4
CO EWR-DUB APR 1.0>0.8
*CO EWR-EDI MAY 1.0>1.9 JUN 1.0>2 JUL 1.0>2
CO EWR-FRA APR 2>1.9
CO EWR-GCM APR 0.7>0.6
CO EWR-IND FEB 5>3
CO EWR-LAS MAR 7>6 APR 7>6
CO EWR-MCO APR 10>11
CO EWR-MSP FEB 5>3
CO EWR-MSY FEB 2.0>1.5
CO EWR-NAS APR 2>3
CO EWR-OMA MAR 3>1.7 APR 3>1.7
CO EWR-ORF MAR 5>4 APR 5>4
CO EWR-OSL APR 1.0>0.8
CO EWR-PAP APR 1.0>0.4
CO EWR-PBI APR 7>8
CO EWR-PIT FEB 6>5
CO EWR-PLS APR 1.0>0.6
CO EWR-PVR APR 0.4>0.3
CO EWR-SAL APR 0.1>0.3
CO EWR-SEA MAR 5>3 APR 5>3
CO EWR-SJD APR 1.0>0.7
CO EWR-STL APR 7>6
CO EWR-SXM APR 0.2>0.3
CO EWR-TLV APR 2>1.8
CO EWR-TYS MAR 1.5>0.8 APR 1.6>0.9
CO EWR-YQM MAR 1.0>1.8
CO EWR-YUL FEB 5>4
CO EYW-FLL DEC 4>5
CO FLL-ASD APR 0.1>0.3 MAY 0.1>0.3 JUN 0.2>0.3 JUL 0.1>0.3
CO FLL-ELH DEC 2>3 JAN 2>1.2 FEB 3>1.0 MAR 2>1.0 APR 2>1.0 MAY 2>1.0 JUN 2>1.0 JUL 2>1.0
CO FLL-FPO JAN 6>5 FEB 6>5 MAR 6>5 APR 6>5 MAY 6>5 JUN 6>5 JUL 6>5
CO FLL-GGT DEC 1.3>1.7
CO FLL-MHH DEC 2>3 JAN 2>4 FEB 3>4 MAR 2>3 APR 2>3 MAY 2>3 JUN 2>3 JUL 2>3
CO FLL-TCB JAN 2>1.1 FEB 3>1.0 MAR 2>1.0 APR 2>1.0 MAY 2>1.0 JUN 2>1.0 JUL 2>1.0
CO IAD-CDG APR 2>1.9
CO IAD-DEN APR 0>1.0
CO IAD-PHX APR 0>1.0
CO IAD-SEA APR 0>1.0
CO IAD-TPA APR 0>1.0
CO IAH-ABQ FEB 4>3
CO IAH-ACA APR 1.0>0.7
CO IAH-AGU APR 1.0>1.5
CO IAH-AMA MAR 4>3 APR 4>3
CO IAH-ATL FEB 6>5
CO IAH-AUS FEB 9>8
CO IAH-BNA MAR 7>6
CO IAH-BON APR 0.3>0.1
CO IAH-BTR MAR 9>8 APR 9>8
CO IAH-BWI MAR 4>3 APR 4>3
CO IAH-BZE APR 2>3
CO IAH-CAE MAR 1.5>0.8 APR 1.6>0.9
CO IAH-CLT MAR 7>6 APR 7>6
CO IAH-COS MAR 5>4 APR 5>4
CO IAH-CUN APR 8>7 JUN 8>7 JUL 8>7
CO IAH-CUU APR 1.0>1.5
CO IAH-CVG MAR 5>4 APR 5>4
CO IAH-CZM APR 1.6>1.3
CO IAH-DEN MAR 7>8 APR 7>10
CO IAH-DGO APR 0.3>0.4
CO IAH-DTW FEB 4>1.9
CO IAH-GSO MAR 1.5>0.9 APR 1.6>0.9
CO IAH-HUX APR 1.0>0.4
CO IAH-IAD FEB 3>1.8 APR 3>4
CO IAH-LBB APR 4>3
CO IAH-LEX MAR 1.8>1.0 APR 1.9>1.0
CO IAH-LHR APR 2>1.7
CO IAH-LIT MAR 6>5
CO IAH-MBJ APR 0.4>0.3
CO IAH-MEX APR 8>9
CO IAH-MFE APR 7>6
CO IAH-MKE APR 5>4
CO IAH-MLU MAR 3>4
CO IAH-MSP FEB 5>4
CO IAH-MTY APR 8>9
CO IAH-MZT FEB 0.9>0.7 APR 1.0>0.7
CO IAH-OMA FEB 6>5 MAR 7>6
CO IAH-ONT MAR 3>2 APR 3>2
CO IAH-ORF MAR 1.9>1.0 APR 2>1.0
CO IAH-PBC FEB 1.3>1.5 APR 1.0>1.4
CO IAH-PBI APR 4>3
CO IAH-PHX APR 7>6
CO IAH-PVR APR 1.6>1.0
CO IAH-QRO APR 2>3
CO IAH-RSW FEB 1.6>1.2 MAR 4>3 APR 3>2
CO IAH-RTB MAY 0.7>0.5
CO IAH-SAP APR 1.0>1.3
CO IAH-SAV MAR 3>2.0
CO IAH-SDF MAR 5>4 APR 5>4
CO IAH-SEA MAR 8>6 APR 8>6
CO IAH-SJC MAR 3>2
CO IAH-SJD APR 3>1.9
CO IAH-SJU APR 1.1>1.3
CO IAH-SLP FEB 1.6>3 APR 1.1>2
CO IAH-SLW APR 0.9>1.0
CO IAH-TAM FEB 1.3>1.5 APR 1.1>1.4
CO IAH-TRC APR 1.0>1.5
CO IAH-TUS FEB 3>1.0
CO IAH-VSA FEB 1.4>1.5 APR 1.1>1.4
CO IAH-YVR MAR 1.0>1.2
CO IAH-YYZ FEB 4>3
CO IAH-ZIH APR 1.1>0.7
CO IAH-ZLO APR 0.7>0.6
CO LAX-BOS APR 0>1.0
CO LAX-BWI APR 0>1.0
CO LAX-EWR MAR 8>6 APR 8>7
CO LAX-IAH MAR 13>10 APR 13>10 MAY 13>10
CO LGA-AUA APR 0.1>0
CO ORD-ANC JUN 0>0.8 JUL 0>1.0
CO ORD-DCA APR 0>2
CO ORD-DEN APR 0>1.0
CO ORD-EWR APR 7>8
CO ORD-IAH APR 10>11
CO ORD-LAS APR 0>1.0
CO ORD-LAX APR 0>2
CO ORD-MCO APR 0>1.0
CO ORD-SEA APR 0>1.0
CO ORD-SNA APR 0>2
CO ORD-STT APR 0.3>0.1 MAY 0.3>0.1 JUN 0.3>0.2 JUL 0.3>0.1
CO PBI-MHH DEC 1.0>1.5
CO SAT-CUN JUN 0>0.1 JUL 0>0.1
CO SFO-ANC JUN 0>0.8 JUL 0>1.0
CO SFO-ANC JUN 0>0.8 JUL 0>1.0
CO SFO-BOS APR 0>3
CO SFO-CLE MAR 1.9>1.0
CO SFO-DEN APR 0>2
CO SFO-EWR FEB 6>5 MAR 6>5 APR 6>7
CO SFO-IAH APR 6>8 JUN 6>7
CO SFO-LAX APR 0>2
CO SFO-PDX APR 0>1.0
CO SFO-PHX APR 0>1.0
CO SFO-SEA APR 0>2

*DL ATL-CPH JUN 1.0>0 JUL 1.0>0
*DL ATL-PRG JUN 1.0>0 JUL 1.0>0
*DL ATL-SVO JUN 1.0>0 JUL 1.0>0
DL ATL-TLH MAR 9>10 APR 9>10 MAY 9>10 JUN 9>10 JUL 9>10
DL BDL-RDU MAR 1.5>0.8
DL CVG-EWR MAR 4>3
*DL CVG-SAN MAR 0.8>0 APR 0.9>0.6
Wow, an addition!
**DL DTW-CDG JUN 0>1.0 JUL 0>1.0
DL DTW-MKE MAR 7>8 APR 7>8 MAY 7>8
DL FLL-TLH FEB 0>0.9 MAR 0>0.9 APR 0>0.8 MAY 0>0.7
*DL JFK-BER JUN 1.0>0 JUL 1.0>0
*DL JFK-BUD JUN 1.0>0 JUL 1.0>0
*DL JFK-MAN JUN 1.0>0 JUL 1.0>0
DL JFK-ROC MAR 4>3
DL JFK-SAN MAR 1.8>1.0
DL JFK-YYZ FEB 4>3
DL MSP-PVD MAR 1.0>0 APR 1.0>0.7
DL SLC-YVR FEB 1.8>1.7

ET IAD-ADD DEC 1.0>0.9

F9 DEN-CZM MAR 0.2>0.5

FL BWI-CUN APR 1.1>1.2 MAY 1.1>1.3

G4 ABE-MYR MAY 0.3>0.1
G4 ABE-PIE MAY 0.5>0.3 JUN 0.4>0.1 JUL 0.5>0.2
G4 ABE-SFB JUN 0.3>0.1 JUL 0.3>0.2
G4 ATW-AZA MAY 0.3>0.1
G4 ATW-LAS MAY 0.3>0.1
G4 ATW-SFB JUN 0.3>0.1 JUL 0.3>0.2
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RE: OAG Changes 11/25/2011:AS/CO/DL/NK/US/WN

Wed Nov 23, 2011 9:04 pm

G4 AZA-BIL MAY 0.3>0.1
G4 AZA-BIS JUN 0.3>0.1 JUL 0.3>0.2
G4 AZA-BLI MAY 0.5>0.3 JUN 0.4>0.1 JUL 0.5>0.2
G4 AZA-BZN JUN 0.3>0.1 JUL 0.3>0.2
G4 AZA-CID MAY 0.4>0.3 JUN 0.4>0.1 JUL 0.4>0.2
G4 AZA-COS JUN 0.3>0.1 JUL 0.3>0.2
G4 AZA-DLH MAY 0.3>0.1
G4 AZA-EUG MAY 0.3>0.1
G4 AZA-FAR MAY 0.5>0.3 JUN 0.6>0.1 JUL 0.5>0.2
G4 AZA-FNL JUN 0.3>0.1 JUL 0.3>0.2
G4 AZA-FSD MAY 0.4>0.3 JUN 0.4>0.1 JUL 0.4>0.2
G4 AZA-GFK MAY 0.3>0.1
G4 AZA-GRI MAY 0.3>0.1
G4 AZA-GRR JUN 0.3>0.1 JUL 0.3>0.2
G4 AZA-GTF MAY 0.4>0.3 JUN 0.4>0.1 JUL 0.4>0.2
G4 AZA-ICT MAY 0.3>0.1
G4 AZA-IDA MAY 0.3>0.1
G4 AZA-LAS MAY 0.8>0.5 JUN 0.9>0.1 JUL 0.9>0.2
G4 AZA-MLI MAY 0.3>0.1
G4 AZA-MOT MAY 0.3>0.1
G4 AZA-MSO JUN 0.3>0.1 JUL 0.3>0.2
G4 AZA-PIA JUN 0.3>0.1 JUL 0.3>0.2
G4 AZA-PSC MAY 0.3>0.1
G4 AZA-RAP JUN 0.3>0.1 JUL 0.3>0.2
G4 AZA-RFD MAY 0.3>0.1
G4 AZA-SBN JUN 0.3>0.1 JUL 0.3>0.2
G4 AZA-SGF MAY 0.3>0.1
G4 BGR-SFB JUN 0.3>0.1 JUL 0.3>0.2
G4 BIL-LAS MAY 0.3>0.1
G4 BIL-LAX JUN 0.3>0.1 JUL 0.3>0.2
G4 BIS-LAS JUN 0.3>0.1 JUL 0.3>0.2
G4 BLI-LAS MAY 4>1.9 JUN 4>0.8 JUL 4>1.0
G4 BLI-LAX MAY 0.6>0.4 JUN 0.6>0.1 JUL 0.6>0.2
G4 BLI-OAK MAY 0.4>0.3 JUN 0.4>0.1 JUL 0.4>0.2
G4 BLI-PSP MAY 0.8>0.5 JUN 0.9>0.3 JUL 0.8>0.3
G4 BLI-SAN JUN 0.3>0.1 JUL 0.3>0.2
G4 BZN-LAS JUN 0.3>0.1 JUL 0.3>0.2
G4 CHA-PIE MAY 0.3>0.1
G4 CHA-SFB MAY 0.3>0.1
G4 CID-LAS MAY 0.3>0.1
G4 CID-PIE MAY 0.3>0.1
G4 CID-SFB JUN 0.3>0.1 JUL 0.3>0.2
G4 COS-LAS MAY 0.5>0.3 JUN 0.6>0.1 JUL 0.6>0.2
G4 CPR-LAS JUN 0.3>0.1 JUL 0.3>0.2
G4 DLH-LAS JUN 0.3>0.1 JUL 0.3>0.2
G4 DSM-LAS MAY 0.5>0.3 JUN 0.6>0.1 JUL 0.6>0.2
G4 DSM-PIE JUN 0.3>0.1 JUL 0.3>0.2
G4 DSM-SFB JUN 0.3>0.1 JUL 0.3>0.2
G4 ELM-SFB MAY 0.4>0.3 JUN 0.4>0.1 JUL 0.4>0.2
G4 EUG-LAS MAY 0.5>0.3 JUN 0.6>0.1 JUL 0.6>0.2
G4 EUG-LAX MAY 0.3>0.1
G4 EUG-OAK JUN 0.3>0.1 JUL 0.3>0.2
G4 FAR-LAS MAY 0.5>0.3 JUN 0.6>0.1 JUL 0.6>0.2
G4 FAR-LAX MAY 0.3>0.1
G4 FAR-SFB MAY 0.3>0.1
G4 FAT-LAS MAY 0.8>0.5 JUN 0.9>0.1 JUL 0.9>0.2
G4 FCA-LAS JUN 0.3>0.1 JUL 0.3>0.2
G4 FLL-GSP MAY 0.4>0.3 JUN 0.4>0.1 JUL 0.4>0.2
G4 FLL-HTS MAY 0.3>0.1
G4 FLL-LEX MAY 0.3>0.1
G4 FLL-PBG MAY 0.3>0.1
G4 FLL-TYS MAY 0.3>0.1
G4 FNL-LAS MAY 0.5>0.3 JUN 0.6>0.1 JUL 0.6>0.2
G4 FSD-LAS MAY 0.5>0.3 JUN 0.6>0.1 JUL 0.6>0.2
G4 FSD-SFB JUN 0.3>0.1 JUL 0.3>0.2
G4 FWA-PIE MAY 0.5>0.3 JUN 0.4>0.1 JUL 0.5>0.2
G4 FWA-SFB JUN 0.3>0.1 JUL 0.3>0.2
G4 GFK-LAS MAY 0.5>0.3 JUN 0.6>0.1 JUL 0.6>0.2
G4 GFK-SFB MAY 0.6>0.3
G4 GJT-LAS MAY 0.3>0.1
G4 GJT-LAX MAY 0.3>0.1
G4 GRI-LAS JUN 0.3>0.1 JUL 0.3>0.2
G4 GRR-LAS MAY 0.3>0.1
G4 GRR-PIE JUN 0.3>0.1 JUL 0.3>0.2
G4 GRR-SFB MAY 0.3>0.1
G4 GSO-PIE JUN 0.3>0.1 JUL 0.3>0.2
G4 GSO-SFB MAY 0.3>0.1
G4 GSP-PGD JUN 0.3>0.1 JUL 0.3>0.2
G4 GSP-PIE MAY 0.4>0.3 JUN 0.4>0.1 JUL 0.4>0.2
G4 GSP-SFB MAY 0.4>0.3 JUN 0.4>0.1 JUL 0.4>0.2
G4 GTF-LAS MAY 0.8>0.5 JUN 0.9>0.1 JUL 0.8>0.2
G4 HTS-MYR JUN 0.3>0.1 JUL 0.3>0.2
G4 HTS-PIE MAY 0.4>0.3 JUN 0.4>0.1 JUL 0.4>0.2
G4 HTS-SFB MAY 0.3>0.1
G4 IAG-PIE MAY 0.3>0.1
G4 ICT-LAS MAY 0.5>0.3 JUN 0.6>0.1 JUL 0.6>0.2
G4 IDA-LAS JUN 0.3>0.1 JUL 0.3>0.2
G4 IDA-LAX JUN 0.3>0.1 JUL 0.3>0.2
G4 ILM-SFB JUN 0.3>0.1 JUL 0.3>0.2
G4 LAS-LEX MAY 0.3>0.1
G4 LAS-LFT MAY 0.3>0.1
G4 LAS-LRD MAY 0.3>0.1
G4 LAS-MFE MAY 0.8>0.5 JUN 0.9>0.1 JUL 0.8>0.2
G4 LAS-MFR JUN 0.3>0.1 JUL 0.3>0.2
G4 LAS-MLI MAY 0.3>0.1
G4 LAS-MOT MAY 0.6>0.4 JUN 0.6>0.1 JUL 0.6>0.2
G4 LAS-MRY MAY 0.3>0.1
G4 LAS-MSO MAY 0.3>0.1
G4 LAS-OWB MAY 0.3>0.1
G4 LAS-PIA MAY 0.5>0.3 JUN 0.6>0.1 JUL 0.6>0.2
G4 LAS-PSC MAY 0.5>0.3 JUN 0.6>0.1 JUL 0.6>0.2
G4 LAS-PUB MAY 0.3>0.1
G4 LAS-RAP JUN 0.3>0.1 JUL 0.3>0.2
G4 LAS-RDM JUN 0.3>0.1 JUL 0.3>0.2
G4 LAS-RFD MAY 0.3>0.1
G4 LAS-SBN MAY 0.3>0.1
G4 LAS-SCK MAY 1.6>0.9 JUN 1.7>0.3 JUL 1.7>0.3
G4 LAS-SGF MAY 0.5>0.3 JUN 0.6>0.1 JUL 0.6>0.2
G4 LAS-SHV MAY 0.5>0.3 JUN 0.6>0.1 JUL 0.6>0.2
G4 LAS-SMX MAY 0.5>0.3 JUN 0.6>0.1 JUL 0.6>0.2
G4 LAS-TWF MAY 0.3>0.1
G4 LAS-TYS JUN 0.3>0.1 JUL 0.3>0.2
G4 LAS-XNA MAY 0.3>0.1
G4 LAX-MFR JUN 0.3>0.1 JUL 0.3>0.2
G4 LAX-MSO MAY 0.3>0.1
G4 LAX-PSC JUN 0.3>0.1 JUL 0.3>0.2
G4 LAX-SGF MAY 0.3>0.1
G4 LAX-XNA JUN 0.3>0.1 JUL 0.3>0.2
G4 LEX-PGD MAY 0.3>0.1
G4 LEX-PIE JUN 0.3>0.1 JUL 0.3>0.2
G4 LEX-SFB MAY 0.3>0.1
G4 MBS-SFB MAY 0.3>0.1
G4 MLI-PIE MAY 0.3>0.1
G4 MLI-SFB JUN 0.3>0.1 JUL 0.3>0.2
G4 OWB-SFB MAY 0.3>0.1
G4 PBG-PIE JUN 0.3>0.1 JUL 0.3>0.2
G4 PBG-SFB MAY 0.3>0.1
G4 PGD-TYS MAY 0.3>0.1
G4 PHF-SFB MAY 0.6>0.4 JUN 0.6>0.1 JUL 0.6>0.2
G4 PIA-PIE MAY 0.5>0.3 JUN 0.4>0.1 JUL 0.5>0.2
G4 PIE-RFD JUN 0.3>0.1 JUL 0.3>0.2
G4 PIE-ROA MAY 0.3>0.1
G4 PIE-SBN JUN 0.3>0.1 JUL 0.3>0.2
G4 PIE-SGF MAY 0.3>0.1
G4 PIE-TOL MAY 0.3>0.1
G4 PIE-TRI MAY 0.3>0.1
G4 PIE-TYS MAY 0.4>0.3 JUN 0.4>0.1 JUL 0.4>0.2
G4 PIE-YNG MAY 0.3>0.1
G4 PSP-SCK JUN 0.3>0.1 JUL 0.3>0.2
G4 RFD-SFB JUN 0.3>0.1 JUL 0.3>0.2
G4 ROA-SFB MAY 0.3>0.1
G4 SBN-SFB JUN 0.3>0.1 JUL 0.3>0.2
G4 SFB-SGF JUN 0.3>0.1 JUL 0.3>0.2
G4 SFB-TOL JUN 0.3>0.1 JUL 0.3>0.2
G4 SFB-TRI JUN 0.3>0.1 JUL 0.3>0.2
G4 SFB-TYS MAY 0.6>0.4 JUN 0.6>0.1 JUL 0.6>0.2
G4 SFB-XNA MAY 0.3>0.1
G4 SFB-YNG MAY 0.3>0.1

*HT JFK-ATH JAN 0.5>0 FEB 0.6>0 MAR 0.5>0

IB JFK-MAD JAN 1.3>1.1

K5 JBR-MCI DEC 0.8>0.1 JAN 0.9>0 FEB 0.9>0 MAR 0.8>0
K5 JBR-MEM DEC 1.7>3 JAN 1.7>3 FEB 1.8>3 MAR 1.7>3

LA MIA-BOG FEB 1.0>0.4 MAR 1.0>0.5

LY JFK-TLV APR 3>2.0

For NK their schedule was extended, so these changes are Summer 2012 vs. Summer 2011.
NK ACY-MCO JUN 4>3 JUL 4>3
NK ATL-FLL JUN 2>3 JUL 2>3
NK BOS-FLL MAY 1.9>1.0 JUN 1.7>1.0 JUL 1.7>1.0
NK BOS-ORD MAY 0>2 JUN 0>2 JUL 0>2
NK CRW-FLL MAY 0.5>0.3
NK DFW-LAS JUL 3>2
NK DFW-ORD MAY 0>2 JUN 0>2 JUL 0>2
NK DTW-LGA MAY 2>3 JUN 2>3 JUL 2>3
NK DTW-ORD MAY 0>2 JUN 0>2 JUL 0>2
NK DTW-RSW MAY 1.3>0.5
NK DTW-TPA MAY 1.0>0.5
NK FLL-CTG MAY 0.4>0.6
NK FLL-CUN MAY 1.1>1.0 JUN 1.0>1.2 JUL 1.0>1.1
NK FLL-GUA MAY 0.6>0.7
NK FLL-KIN JUN 0.3>0.7 JUL 0.3>0.9
NK FLL-LGA MAY 6>4 JUN 6>4 JUL 6>4
NK FLL-MBJ JUN 0.7>1.0 JUL 0.7>1.0
NK FLL-NAS JUN 1.2>1.0 JUL 1.7>1.0
NK FLL-PUJ MAY 0.6>0.3
NK FLL-SAL MAY 0>0.4 JUN 0.3>0.4
NK FLL-SJO MAY 1.7>1.8 JUN 1.8>1.9
NK FLL-SJU MAY 3>2
NK FLL-STI MAY 0.3>0.6 JUN 0.4>0.6
NK FLL-SXM MAY 0.1>0.3 JUN 0.2>0.3
NK FLL-TLC MAY 0>0.3
NK IAG-MYR JUN 0.6>0.2 JUL 0.6>0.3
NK LAS-OAK MAY 0>3 JUN 0>3 JUL 0>3
NK LAS-ORD MAY 3>4
NK LAS-PDX MAY 0>2 JUN 0>2 JUL 0>2
NK LAS-SAN MAY 0>3 JUN 0>3 JUL 0>3
NK LGA-MYR MAY 3>2 JUN 3>2 JUL 3>2
NK LGA-ORD MAY 0>2 JUN 0>2 JUL 0>2
NK MCO-ORD MAY 0>1.0 JUN 0>1.0 JUL 0>1.0
NK MCO-SJU MAY 1.9>1.0 JUN 2>1.3
NK MYR-PBG JUN 0.4>0.1 JUL 0.4>0.3
NK ORD-RSW MAY 1.1>0

PD MDW-YTZ MAY 5>6
PD MYR-YTZ FEB 0>0.1 MAR 0>0.6 APR 0>0.6 MAY 0>0.2

S4 BOS-TER JUN 0>0.2 JUL 0>0.1

UA CKB-MGW FEB 1.3>0.9
UA CLE-MCO APR 0>2
UA DEN-ABQ MAR 6>5
UA DEN-BOI MAR 6>5
UA DEN-BOS APR 4>3
UA DEN-BWI APR 4>3
UA DEN-CLE APR 0.9>1.9
Wow this market used to have 4 RTs in it (UA+F9) during peak and now is just a few times on UA in some months.  
*UA DEN-CUN APR 1.0>0.7 MAY 1.0>0.4 JUN 1.0>0.7 JUL 1.0>0.7
UA DEN-CVG FEB 1.5>1.0 MAR 1.8>1.0
UA DEN-GJT MAR 7>6
UA DEN-LAS FEB 5>4 MAR 6>5 APR 6>5
*UA DEN-LGA APR 5>3
UA DEN-MSY MAR 3>2
UA DEN-OGG MAR 0.2>1.0
UA DEN-OKC MAR 5>4
UA DEN-ONT APR 3>2 MAY 3>2 JUN 3>2 JUL 3>2
UA DEN-PHL APR 1.9>1.0
UA DEN-PHX APR 6>5
*UA DEN-PVR APR 1.0>0.6 MAY 1.0>0.4 JUN 1.0>0.3 JUL 1.0>0.3
UA DEN-RAP MAR 7>6
UA DEN-SAN MAR 5>4
Interesting that this one is increased...
*UA DEN-SJD APR 0.1>0.3 MAY 0.1>0.3 JUN 0.2>0.3
UA DEN-TPA APR 2>1.0
UA EWR-DEN APR 1.0>2
UA EWR-LAS APR 0>1.0
UA EWR-MCO APR 0>1.0
UA EWR-MIA APR 0>2
UA EWR-SAT APR 0>1.0
UA EWR-SEA APR 0>1.0
UA EWR-SNA APR 0>1.0
UA EWR-SXM MAY 1.0>0.8
UA IAD-AUA MAY 0.3>0.1 JUN 0.3>0.2 JUL 0.3>0.1
UA IAD-CUN MAY 1.0>0.4 JUN 1.0>0.7 JUL 1.0>0.7
UA IAD-
 
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UA IAD-DEN MAR 9>8 APR 9>8
UA IAD-DME APR 0.8>0.7
UA IAD-GVA APR 1.0>0.8
UA IAD-JST FEB 1.3>0.9
UA IAD-LHR MAR 4>3 APR 4>3
*UA IAD-MBJ APR 0>0.1 MAY 0>0.1 JUN 0>0.2 JUL 0>0.1
UA IAD-MHT FEB 1.5>1.0
UA IAD-PHX APR 1.0>0
*UA IAD-PUJ APR 0>0.3 MAY 0>0.1 JUN 0>0.2 JUL 0>0.1
UA IAD-SEA APR 3>2
UA IAD-SXM APR 0.1>0.3
UA IAD-TPA APR 3>2
UA IAD-ZRH APR 1.0>0.8
UA IAH-ATL APR 0>1.0
UA IAH-BOS APR 0>1.0
UA IAH-DCA APR 0>2
UA IAH-DEN APR 4>1.0
UA IAH-DTW APR 0>1.0
UA IAH-EWR APR 0>1.0
UA IAH-IAD APR 5>3 MAY 5>4 JUN 5>4 JUL 5>4
UA IAH-LAS APR 0>1.0
UA IAH-LGA APR 0>3
UA IAH-PDX APR 0>1.0
UA IAH-PHL APR 0>1.0
UA IAH-PHX APR 0>1.0
UA IAH-SEA APR 0>2
UA LAX-BOS APR 2>1.0
UA LAX-BWI APR 1.0>0
UA LAX-CLE APR 0>3
Hmm, DL cuts and UA adds.
*UA LAX-CUN APR 0.1>1.0 MAY 0.1>1.0 JUN 0.2>1.0 JUL 0.1>1.0
UA LAX-DEN APR 9>8
UA LAX-ELP MAR 1.9>1.0 APR 2>1.0
UA LAX-IAH APR 0>1.0
UA LAX-IYK APR 3>2
UA LAX-KOA FEB 1.5>1.4
UA LAX-LAS APR 5>4
UA LAX-LHR APR 1.0>0.8
UA LAX-PDX APR 4>3
UA LAX-PSP FEB 6>7 MAR 6>7 APR 6>7
UA LAX-RNO APR 3>2
UA LAX-SEA MAR 4>3 APR 4>3
UA LAX-SMF MAR 4>3 APR 4>3
UA LAX-TUS MAR 3>4 APR 3>4
UA LAX-YVR FEB 1.4>1.0 MAR 1.7>1.0 APR 1.7>1.0
UA ORD-ABE APR 4>3
UA ORD-ALB APR 5>3
UA ORD-AUA MAY 0.1>0
UA ORD-BIL JUN 0>0.8 JUL 0>1.0
UA ORD-BOI APR 2>1.0
UA ORD-BOS APR 10>9
UA ORD-BTV APR 4>3
UA ORD-BUF APR 6>5
UA ORD-BWI APR 6>5
UA ORD-BZN JUN 0>1.6 JUL 0>2
UA ORD-CLE MAR 6>7 APR 6>7 MAY 6>7 JUN 6>7 JUL 6>7
UA ORD-CUN APR 1.0>1.3 JUN 1.0>1.1 JUL 1.0>1.1
UA ORD-DCA APR 14>12
UA ORD-DEN APR 10>9
UA ORD-EWR APR 9>10 MAY 9>8 JUN 9>8 JUL 9>8
UA ORD-FCA JUL 0>1.0
UA ORD-FRA APR 2>1.8
UA ORD-HPN MAR 6>5
UA ORD-JAC JUN 0>0.8 JUL 0>1.0
UA ORD-LAX APR 13>11
UA ORD-LIR APR 0>0.3 JUN 0>0.1 JUL 0>0.1
UA ORD-MBJ JUN 0>0.1 JUL 0>0.1
UA ORD-MCO APR 6>5
UA ORD-MHT APR 3>1.9
UA ORD-MSO JUN 0>0.8 JUL 0>1.0
UA ORD-OKC MAR 5>4
UA ORD-ORF APR 6>5
UA ORD-PUJ APR 0>0.1 MAY 0>0.1 JUN 0>0.2 JUL 0>0.1
UA ORD-PVR APR 0.1>0.4
UA ORD-RAP JUN 1.0>3 JUL 1.0>3
UA ORD-SEA APR 6>5
UA ORD-SLC JAN 3>4
UA ORD-SNA APR 4>1.9
UA ORD-SXM APR 0>0.1 MAY 0>0.1 JUN 0>0.2 JUL 0>0.1
UA ORD-SYR APR 6>5
UA ORD-YEG APR 3>1.9
UA ORD-YQB JUN 1.0>1.8 JUL 1.0>2
UA ORD-YWG MAR 5>4
UA SFO-ABQ APR 2>1.0 MAY 2>1.0 JUN 2>1.0 JUL 2>1.0
UA SFO-ACV MAR 7>6 APR 7>6
UA SFO-AUS APR 3>4
UA SFO-BOS MAR 5>6 APR 6>3 MAY 6>7 JUN 6>7 JUL 6>7
UA SFO-CLE APR 0>2
UA SFO-CUN APR 0.1>1.0 MAY 0.1>1.0 JUN 0.2>1.0 JUL 0.1>1.0
UA SFO-DEN APR 9>7
UA SFO-EUG MAR 7>6 APR 7>6
UA SFO-EWR APR 2>4
UA SFO-FRA MAR 1.3>1.0
UA SFO-IAD APR 10>11 MAY 10>11 JUN 10>11 JUL 10>11
UA SFO-LAS MAR 7>8 APR 8>9
UA SFO-LAX MAR 15>14 APR 16>13
UA SFO-LHR MAR 1.3>1.0 APR 2>1.9
UA SFO-MCO MAR 1.1>2 APR 1.0>2
UA SFO-MFR MAR 7>6 APR 7>6
UA SFO-ORD MAR 14>13 APR 15>14
UA SFO-PDX APR 7>6
UA SFO-PHX APR 4>3
UA SFO-PVR APR 0.4>1.1 MAY 0.4>1.1 JUN 0.4>1.2 JUL 0.4>1.1
UA SFO-RDM MAR 3>2 APR 3>2
UA SFO-RNO MAR 6>7
UA SFO-SAN MAR 9>8 APR 9>8
UA SFO-SEA MAR 8>7 APR 8>5
UA SFO-SJD APR 0.7>1.1 MAY 0.7>1.1 JUN 0.7>1.2 JUL 0.7>1.1
UA SFO-TUS APR 2>1.0
UA SFO-YYJ MAR 1.9>1.0 APR 2>1.0

UN JFK-DME FEB 0.5>0.3

US CLT-DUB MAY 0.3>0.9
US CLT-FRA MAY 1.0>1.3 JUN 1.0>2 JUL 1.0>2
US CLT-HHH MAR 7>8 APR 7>8 MAY 7>8 JUN 7>8 JUL 7>8
US CLT-PDX JUN 0>1.0 JUL 0>1.0
US CLT-SMF JUN 0>1.0 JUL 0>1.0
US PHL-PDX JUN 0>1.0 JUL 0>1.0
US PHL-SMF JUN 0>1.0 JUL 0>1.0

VS SFO-LHR APR 1.0>1.4 MAY 1.0>1.4 JUN 1.0>1.4 JUL 1.0>1.4

VX FLL-LAX MAR 2.0>3 APR 2>3
VX FLL-SFO APR 2>3

For WN their schedule was extended, so these changes are Summer 2012 vs. Summer 2011.
WN ABQ-PHX MAY 9>8 JUN 9>8 JUL 9>8
WN ABQ-SLC JUN 1.0>0.1 JUL 1.0>0
WN ATL-AUS MAY 0>2 JUN 0>1.9 JUL 0>1.9
WN ATL-BWI MAY 0>4 JUN 0>4 JUL 0>4
WN ATL-DEN MAY 0>2 JUN 0>2 JUL 0>2
WN ATL-HOU MAY 0>3 JUN 0>3 JUL 0>3
WN ATL-LAS MAY 0>1.0 JUN 0>1.0 JUL 0>1.0
WN ATL-MDW MAY 0>4 JUN 0>4 JUL 0>4
WN ATL-PHX MAY 0>1.0 JUN 0>1.0 JUL 0>1.0
WN AUS-MDW MAY 1.9>3
WN BDL-BNA MAY 1.0>0 JUN 1.0>0 JUL 1.0>0
WN BHM-SDF MAY 1.8>0 JUN 1.9>0 JUL 1.8>0
WN BNA-BWI JUN 7>6
WN BNA-PVD MAY 1.0>0 JUN 1.0>0 JUL 1.0>0
WN BNA-SEA MAY 1.0>0
WN BOI-RNO MAY 1.8>0 JUN 1.9>0 JUL 1.8>0
WN BOI-SEA MAY 1.8>0 JUN 2.0>0 JUL 2.0>0
WN BOI-SLC MAY 1.8>0 JUN 1.9>0 JUL 1.8>0
WN BOS-BWI MAY 9>8 JUN 9>8 JUL 9>8
WN BOS-PHL MAY 8>0 JUN 8>0 JUL 7>0
WN BUF-MCO MAY 3>4
WN BUF-MDW MAY 4>3
WN BUR-DEN MAY 0>1.9 JUN 0>2 JUL 0>2
WN BUR-OAK JUN 13>14 JUL 12>14
WN BUR-PHX JUN 8>7
WN BWI-EWR MAY 0>3
WN BWI-FLL JUN 6>5 JUL 6>4
WN BWI-ISP MAY 6>5
WN BWI-JAN MAY 1.8>1.0 JUN 1.9>1.0 JUL 1.8>1.0
WN BWI-MCO MAY 9>8
WN BWI-MSY MAY 2>3
WN BWI-PHX JUN 4>3 JUL 4>3
WN BWI-PIT MAY 3>4 JUN 3>4 JUL 3>4
WN BWI-PVD JUN 9>10 JUL 9>10
WN CMH-DEN MAY 0>1.0
WN CMH-MCO MAY 3>4
WN DAL-LIT JUN 6>5 JUL 6>5
WN DAL-MCI JUN 10>9
WN DEN-EWR MAY 0>3
WN DEN-HOU JUL 4>5
WN DEN-JAX MAY 0>1.0
WN DEN-LAX MAY 8>7 JUN 8>7 JUL 8>7
WN DEN-MHT MAY 0>1.0 JUN 0>1.0 JUL 0>1.0
WN DEN-MKE MAY 0>2 JUN 0>2 JUL 0>2
WN DEN-PIT MAY 0>1.0
WN DEN-PVD MAY 0>1.0 JUN 0>1.0 JUL 0>1.0
WN DEN-SAT JUL 2>3
WN DEN-SEA JUN 3>4 JUL 3>4
WN DEN-SNA MAY 3>4 JUN 3>4 JUL 3>4
WN DTW-MDW JUN 7>6 JUL 7>6
WN EWR-HOU MAY 0>1.9
WN EWR-PHX MAY 0>2
WN FLL-JAX JUN 4>3
WN FLL-PVD MAY 2.0>1.0
WN FLL-TPA JUN 7>6 JUL 7>6
WN GEG-SEA MAY 1.9>0 JUN 2>0 JUL 2.0>0
WN HOU-HRL MAY 7>5 JUN 7>5 JUL 7>5
WN HOU-MCI JUN 0>0.9 JUL 0>1.0
WN HOU-MDW JUN 6>7 JUL 6>7
WN HOU-RDU JUN 0>0.9 JUL 0>1.0
WN HOU-SEA JUN 0>0.9 JUL 0>1.0
WN ISP-MCO MAY 5>4 JUN 5>4 JUL 5>4
WN ISP-MDW MAY 4>2 JUN 4>0.1 JUL 4>0
WN ISP-PBI JUL 3>2
WN JAN-MDW MAY 1.8>1.0 JUN 1.9>1.0 JUL 1.8>1.0
WN JAX-PHL MAY 1.0>0 JUN 1.0>0 JUL 1.0>0
WN JAX-TPA MAY 3>1.9 JUN 3>2 JUL 3>2
WN LAS-ONT MAY 8>6 JUN 8>6 JUL 8>6
WN LAS-ORF MAY 1.0>0
WN LAS-PHX MAY 14>13 JUN 14>13 JUL 14>13
WN LAS-SNA MAY 8>7
WN LAX-OAK MAY 14>12 JUN 14>12 JUL 13>12
WN LAX-PHX MAY 11>9 JUN 11>10
WN MCI-SEA MAY 1.0>0
WN MCO-PHX JUN 1.7>1.0 JUL 1.8>1.0
WN MCO-STL MAY 4>5
WN MDW-MHT MAY 4>3
WN MDW-OKC JUN 0>0.9 JUL 0>1.0
WN MDW-RSW MAY 3>4
WN MDW-SMF JUN 1.7>1.1 JUL 1.8>1.1
WN MHT-PHL MAY 4>0 JUN 4>0 JUL 4>0
WN MKE-PHX JUN 2>1.2 JUL 2>1.1
WN MKE-STL MAY 0>2 JUN 0>1.9 JUL 0>1.9
WN OAK-SNA JUN 7>8 JUL 7>8
WN ONT-PHX MAY 8>6 JUN 8>6 JUL 8>6
WN PHL-PIT MAY 6>0 JUN 6>0 JUL 6>0
WN PHL-PVD MAY 4>0 JUN 4>0 JUL 4>0
WN PHL-RDU MAY 4>3 JUN 4>3 JUL 4>3
WN PHX-PVD MAY 1.0>0 JUN 1.0>0 JUL 1.0>0
WN PHX-SLC JUN 7>6 JUL 7>6
WN PHX-TPA JUN 1.9>1.0 JUL 2.0>1.0
WN RNO-SJC MAY 3>0 JUN 3>0 JUL 3>0
WN SAN-SJC MAY 9>10
WN SAN-SMF MAY 11>10 JUN 11>10 JUL 11>10
WN SAN-STL MAY 1.0>0
WN SJC-SNA MAY 7>8
WN SMF-SNA JUN 6>7 JUL 6>7

YV HNL-ITO JAN 4>2 FEB 5>3 MAR 4>2 APR 4>2 MAY 4>2 JUN 4>2 JUL 4>2
YV HNL-KOA JAN 6>3 FEB 7>4 MAR 6>3 APR 6>3 MAY 6>3 JUN 6>3 JUL 6>3
YV HNL-OGG JAN 7>10 FEB 8>11 MAR 7>10 APR 7>10 MAY 7>10 JUN 7>10 JUL 7>10
YV ITO-HNL JAN 4>2 FEB 5>3 MAR 4>2 APR 4>2 MAY 4>2 JUN 4>2 JUL 4>2
YV KOA-HNL JAN 6>3 FEB 7>4 MAR 6>3 APR 6>3 MAY 6>3 JUN 6>3 JUL 6>3
YV KOA-OGG JAN 0>1.0 FEB 0>1.0 MAR 0>1.0 APR 0>1.0 MAY 0>1.0 JUN 0>1.0 JUL 0>1.0
YV LIH-OGG JAN 0>1.0 FEB 0>1.0 MAR 0>1.0 APR 0>1.0 MAY 0>1.0 JUN 0>1.0 JUL 0>1.0
YV OGG-HNL JAN 7>10 FEB 8>11 MAR 7>10 APR 7>10 MAY 7>10 JUN 7>10 JUL 7>10
YV
 
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RE: OAG Changes 11/25/2011:AS/CO/DL/NK/US/WN

Wed Nov 23, 2011 9:05 pm

YV OGG-KOA JAN 0>1.0 FEB 0>1.0 MAR 0>1.0 APR 0>1.0 MAY 0>1.0 JUN 0>1.0 JUL 0>1.0
YV OGG-LIH JAN 0>1.0 FEB 0>1.0 MAR 0>1.0 APR 0>1.0 MAY 0>1.0 JUN 0>1.0 JUL 0>1.0

ZK CNY-PGA DEC 0.8>0.1 JAN 0.9>0 FEB 0.9>0 MAR 0.8>0 APR 0.9>0 MAY 0.9>0 JUN 0.8>0 JUL 0.9>0
ZK CNY-VEL DEC 0>0.9 JAN 0>1.0 FEB 0>1.0 MAR 0>1.0 APR 0>1.0 MAY 0>1.0 JUN 0>1.0 JUL 0>1.0
ZK DDC-GBD DEC 0.7>0.1 JAN 0.7>0 FEB 0.8>0 MAR 0.7>0 APR 0.7>0 MAY 0.7>0 JUN 0.7>0 JUL 0.7>0
ZK DEN-EAR JAN 2>3 MAR 2>3 APR 2>3 MAY 2>3 JUN 2>3 JUL 2>3
ZK DEN-GCK JAN 5>4 FEB 5>4 MAR 5>4 APR 5>4 MAY 5>4 JUN 5>4 JUL 5>4
ZK EAR-MCK DEC 1.7>1.1 JAN 1.7>1.0 FEB 1.8>1.0 MAR 1.7>1.0 APR 1.7>1.0 MAY 1.7>1.0 JUN 1.7>1.0 JUL

1.7>1.0
ZK GBD-HYS JAN 1.0>1.7 FEB 1.0>1.8 MAR 1.0>1.7 APR 1.0>1.7 MAY 1.0>1.7 JUN 1.0>1.7 JUL 1.0>1.7
 
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RE: OAG Changes 11/25/2011:AS/CO/DL/NK/US/WN

Wed Nov 23, 2011 9:10 pm

Quoting enilria (Thread starter):
CO DEN-BWI APR 0>1.0
CO DEN-LGA APR 0>2
CO DEN-PHL APR 0>1.0
CO DEN-PHX APR 0>2
CO DEN-TPA APR 0>1.0
Quoting enilria (Thread starter):
CO LAX-BOS APR 0>1.0
CO LAX-BWI APR 0>1.0
Quoting enilria (Thread starter):
CO ORD-LAS APR 0>1.0
CO ORD-LAX APR 0>2
CO ORD-MCO APR 0>1.0
CO ORD-SEA APR 0>1.0
CO ORD-SNA APR 0>2
CO ORD-STT APR 0.3>0.1 MAY
Quoting enilria (Thread starter):
CO SFO-CLE MAR 1.9>1.0
Quoting enilria (Thread starter):
CO SFO-LAX APR 0>2
CO SFO-PDX APR 0>1.0
CO SFO-PHX APR 0>1.0
CO SFO-SEA APR 0>2
Quoting enilria (Thread starter):
UA DEN-TPA APR 2>1.0
UA EWR-DEN APR 1.0>2
UA EWR-LAS APR 0>1.0
UA EWR-MCO APR 0>1.0
UA EWR-MIA APR 0>2
UA EWR-SAT APR 0>1.0
UA EWR-SEA APR 0>1.0
UA EWR-SNA APR 0>1.0
UA EWR-SXM MAY 1.0>0.8

BIG CHANGES!

As some predicted, PMCO 737s to some routes at the PMUA hubs!

Looks like the PMUA Airbuses and 757s are coming to EWR!!!! YAY!!!! 
"KEEP CLIMBING" -- DELTA
 
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RE: OAG Changes 11/25/2011:AS/CO/DL/NK/US/WN

Wed Nov 23, 2011 9:16 pm

Quoting TOMMY767 (Reply 4):
BIG CHANGES!

As some predicted, PMCO 737s to some routes at the PMUA hubs!

Looks like the PMUA Airbuses and 757s are coming to EWR!!!! YAY!!!! 

Frankly, I wish they would just use one code and make it less confusing for me!
 
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RE: OAG Changes 11/25/2011:AS/CO/DL/NK/US/WN

Wed Nov 23, 2011 9:30 pm

Quoting enilria (Reply 5):
Frankly, I wish they would just use one code and make it less confusing for me!

I just would like to point out that pretty much all swaps on PMUA metal to PMCO hubs is all 319. There is no variation. Could this just be dummy schedules? (aircraft could change later on as we get closer to the date?
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RE: OAG Changes 11/25/2011:AS/CO/DL/NK/US/WN

Wed Nov 23, 2011 9:37 pm

Quoting enilria (Thread starter):
CO
CO CLE-CVG MAR 3>1.5
CO CLE-MHT MAR 3>1.6 APR 3>1.6
CO CLE-NAS APR 0.3>0.1
CO CLE-PVD MAR 3>1.6 APR 4>1.6
CO CLE-RDU MAR 4>3 APR 4>3
CO CLE-RSW APR 3>1.9
CO CLE-SBN MAR 3>1.5 APR 3>1.4
CO CLE-SDF APR 4>3
CO CLE-STL MAR 1.6>3 APR 1.4>3
CO CLE-TPA MAR 3>1.9 APR 3>1.9

Kind of an OUCH for CLE?

[Edited 2011-11-23 13:40:18]
 
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RE: OAG Changes 11/25/2011:AS/CO/DL/NK/US/WN

Wed Nov 23, 2011 10:12 pm

Quoting TOMMY767 (Reply 6):

I just would like to point out that pretty much all swaps on PMUA metal to PMCO hubs is all 319. There is no variation. Could this just be dummy schedules? (aircraft could change later on as we get closer to the date?

Where are you looking?
Eastern Air lines flt # 701, EWR-MCO Boeing 757
 
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RE: OAG Changes 11/25/2011:AS/CO/DL/NK/US/WN

Wed Nov 23, 2011 10:29 pm

Quoting enilria (Thread starter):
CO CLE-SBN MAR 3>1.5 APR 3>1.4

With the very poor loads on that route (sub-30%), I'd say that UA/CO will replace it with a daily EWR or IAH in short order. Or maybe if UA is feeling gutsy, they could launch SBN-DEN to beat F9 to the punch. (For those not in the know, F9 is interested in SBN-DEN due to SBN's recently awarded SCASD grant for DEN service.)

Quoting enilria (Thread starter):
Wow, an addition!
**DL DTW-CDG JUN 0>1.0 JUL 0>1.0

Not sure if this is additional capacity. AF already flies DTW-CDG, so it might be a AF/KL/DL JV airline swap a la the AF/DL winter switcheroo on ORD-CDG.
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RE: OAG Changes 11/25/2011:AS/CO/DL/NK/US/WN

Wed Nov 23, 2011 10:36 pm

Quoting STT757 (Reply 8):
Where are you looking?

United.com and continental.com.

Again, CO and UA are known for their dummy skeds so they could change a bit as we get closer to APR 2012
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RE: OAG Changes 11/25/2011:AS/CO/DL/NK/US/WN

Wed Nov 23, 2011 11:02 pm

Virgin Atlantic adding a second LHR-SFO a few day a week. Nice to see that return.

Very interesting to see the mix of UA/CO routes adding up. Going to be seeing a lot more 737's at SFO. And finally UA going daily SFO-PVR/SJD. About time, to bad it took VX coming into the market to spur this on.
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RE: OAG Changes 11/25/2011:AS/CO/DL/NK/US/WN

Thu Nov 24, 2011 12:02 am

Quoting point2point (Reply 7):
Kind of an OUCH for CLE?

As expected...so to cite only one of lots of examples, the so called CLE "hub" referred to so primarliy only by a.netters at this point, will offer 2 CLE-MCO flights a day in May if I read above correctly, at $324 roundtrip nonstop on Expedia with the cheapest connection at $318 as of this writing, while WN offers a non-hub operation of 4 daily CMH-MCO, $280 roundtrip nonstop cheapest on the WN website as of this writing

To be fair though, Expedia shows 3 CLE-MCO for same time frame...May-June and the fare being charged is entirely reasonable.

But a.netters continue to threaten the imminent demise of the CLE "hub" to the likes of what's happened to CVG with it's similar 3 daily CVG-MCO flights for the same time frame at $514 nonstop roundtrip and the cheapest connection flight at $374 at this point on Expedia.

That's gouging and it all simply shows what a messed up industry this is with passenger "service" being the last thing on a legacy carrier priority list, it's all about devotion to the chosen few megahubs at the least cost and at the expense of other markets so they can link any and all city pairs they can.
 
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RE: OAG Changes 11/25/2011:AS/CO/DL/NK/US/WN

Thu Nov 24, 2011 12:07 am

Could somebody post the aircraft or direct to a link showing what aircraft PMUA is using from IAH and EWR?
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RE: OAG Changes 11/25/2011:AS/CO/DL/NK/US/WN

Thu Nov 24, 2011 12:31 am

Quoting TOMMY767 (Reply 4):

What BIG CHANGES for CLE? CO is "dropping" .9 of SFO freq but you don't mention UA is "adding" 2 dailies.

Quoting point2point (Reply 7):

I don't know. A lot of typical Florida/Nassau stuff. Nothing radical. No offense SBN.  
 
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RE: OAG Changes 11/25/2011:AS/CO/DL/NK/US/WN

Thu Nov 24, 2011 12:47 am

CLE-NAS doesn't run at all right now, its always been Saturday only during peak times.
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RE: OAG Changes 11/25/2011:AS/CO/DL/NK/US/WN

Thu Nov 24, 2011 12:52 am

Quoting enilria (Thread starter):
CO IAH-BZE APR 2>3

All I can say is it is not surprising!. They are doing well..and nice yields too.....DL is also doing well in BZE now...all at the expense of AA.
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RE: OAG Changes 11/25/2011:AS/CO/DL/NK/US/WN

Thu Nov 24, 2011 12:53 am

Quoting enilria (Thread starter):
MBS-SFB MAY 0.3>0.1

The beginning of the end for that route I fear   

Oh well.....MBS, as I've posted before, will succumb to FNT like some businesses cease operations when Wal-Mart enters an area.
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Thu Nov 24, 2011 1:28 am

Ok - you see the UA changes when you attempt to book them. They are not reflected in the timetable section. They are using dummy '319' aircraft - just as CO uses the 738. Some of those routes from IAH and EWR I could see being a mixture of 319/320/752...and hopefully 76 or 77 on the routes like IAH-EWR/LAX/LAS.
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RE: OAG Changes 11/25/2011:AS/CO/DL/NK/US/WN

Thu Nov 24, 2011 1:33 am

Quoting FilAmAirlines (Reply 17):

The beginning of the end for that route I fear

Oh well.....MBS, as I've posted before, will succumb to FNT like some businesses cease operations when Wal-Mart enters an area.

I wouldn't put much faith in the G4 OAGs. They seem to change routes all the time, I wouldn't be concerned about that cut until you can see what actually shows up on their schedule when they update it.
 
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RE: OAG Changes 11/25/2011:AS/CO/DL/NK/US/WN

Thu Nov 24, 2011 1:41 am

Quoting MLI717fan (Reply 19):
Quoting FilAmAirlines (Reply 17):

The beginning of the end for that route I fear

Oh well.....MBS, as I've posted before, will succumb to FNT like some businesses cease operations when Wal-Mart enters an area.

I wouldn't put much faith in the G4 OAGs. They seem to change routes all the time, I wouldn't be concerned about that cut until you can see what actually shows up on their schedule when they update it.

I actually put zero faith into purported Allegiant schedules in OAG. FWA management told me once that G4 does not release their schedule data to third parties like OAG. Period. Any G4 schedules that you see from a third party source and not from G4 themselves are estimates or guesses.
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RE: OAG Changes 11/25/2011:AS/CO/DL/NK/US/WN

Thu Nov 24, 2011 2:12 am

CO is going to fly Boston-LAX (1x) and Boston-SFO (3x) in ADDITION to the UA flights in those markets?

I know it's essentially one airline, so I'm not sure why we see both CO and UA listed.

Does this mean MORE flights between Boston and LAX/SFO or just a simple redistribution of the ones already there?
 
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RE: OAG Changes 11/25/2011:AS/CO/DL/NK/US/WN

Thu Nov 24, 2011 2:15 am

Quoting izbtmnhd (Reply 14):
Quoting TOMMY767 (Reply 4):

What BIG CHANGES for CLE? CO is "dropping" .9 of SFO freq but you don't mention UA is "adding" 2 dailies.

Look at CLE-LAX. It says UA is adding three, but I can't see CO pulling any. That would mean 5 or so trips per day.

Some of these swaps look like added utilization on one carrier or the other due to aircraft availability or total crew time available. I see 2 ORD-SNAs going CO and 1 EWR-SNA going UA. Wonder about aircraft types.

As a former CO employee, I love the ORD-LAX additions - reminds me of the 747 and DC10s in the 1970s. I'm sure these will be 737 or at most 753s.
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RE: OAG Changes 11/25/2011:AS/CO/DL/NK/US/WN

Thu Nov 24, 2011 2:30 am

Quoting TOMMY767 (Reply 6):
Quoting enilria (Reply 5):
Frankly, I wish they would just use one code and make it less confusing for me!

I just would like to point out that pretty much all swaps on PMUA metal to PMCO hubs is all 319. There is no variation. Could this just be dummy schedules? (aircraft could change later on as we get closer to the date?
Quoting point2point (Reply 7):
Quoting enilria (Thread starter):
CO
CO CLE-CVG MAR 3>1.5
CO CLE-MHT MAR 3>1.6 APR 3>1.6
CO CLE-NAS APR 0.3>0.1
CO CLE-PVD MAR 3>1.6 APR 4>1.6
CO CLE-RDU MAR 4>3 APR 4>3
CO CLE-RSW APR 3>1.9
CO CLE-SBN MAR 3>1.5 APR 3>1.4
CO CLE-SDF APR 4>3
CO CLE-STL MAR 1.6>3 APR 1.4>3
CO CLE-TPA MAR 3>1.9 APR 3>1.9

Kind of an OUCH for CLE?
Quoting Drerx7 (Reply 18):
Ok - you see the UA changes when you attempt to book them. They are not reflected in the timetable section. They are using dummy '319' aircraft - just as CO uses the 738. Some of those routes from IAH and EWR I could see being a mixture of 319/320/752...and hopefully 76 or 77 on the routes like IAH-EWR/LAX/LAS.

If that's real it's a big deal for CLE. Frankly, I hate this mess they have with their schedules. If it would solve the problem I would just combine it all under the UA code and be done with it, but because they don't file reciprocal schedule changes at the same time it would still be a cluster. I mostly ignore their schedules as a result until they go to a single code.

Quoting FWAERJ (Reply 9):
Quoting enilria (Thread starter):
Wow, an addition!
**DL DTW-CDG JUN 0>1.0 JUL 0>1.0

Not sure if this is additional capacity. AF already flies DTW-CDG, so it might be a AF/KL/DL JV airline swap a la the AF/DL winter switcheroo on ORD-CDG.

If you google it you will find media coverage from today. It is a net addition.

Quoting MLI717fan (Reply 19):
I wouldn't put much faith in the G4 OAGs. They seem to change routes all the time, I wouldn't be concerned about that cut until you can see what actually shows up on their schedule when they update it.
Quoting FWAERJ (Reply 20):
I actually put zero faith into purported Allegiant schedules in OAG. FWA management told me once that G4 does not release their schedule data to third parties like OAG. Period. Any G4 schedules that you see from a third party source and not from G4 themselves are estimates or guesses.

Well, let me walk the fence on G4. The schedules in OAG are actually from G4. Last year Wall Street convinced them to file schedules. You have to remember that GDS is not the only use for OAG schedules. Plenty of people do what we are doing with them and everybody wants to keep Wall Street happy. Wall Street analysts use them to measure industry capacity changes to predict earnings. They were peeved at Allegiant for not publishing a schedule and now they are. Whether it is accurate or not is a different matter. I have no idea. I'd assume it is accurate, but not updated in a timely manner so you get huge changes all at once rather than incremental changes like the other airlines, but that is speculation.
 
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RE: OAG Changes 11/25/2011:AS/CO/DL/NK/US/WN

Thu Nov 24, 2011 3:57 am

CO EWR-BHX APR 0.9>0.7

Bit unusual, i thought this route typically went back to a daily run for the summer.
 
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RE: OAG Changes 11/25/2011:AS/CO/DL/NK/US/WN

Thu Nov 24, 2011 4:21 am

YV HNL-ITO JAN 4>2 FEB 5>3 MAR 4>2 APR 4>2 MAY 4>2 JUN 4>2 JUL 4>2
YV HNL-KOA JAN 6>3 FEB 7>4 MAR 6>3 APR 6>3 MAY 6>3 JUN 6>3 JUL 6>3
YV HNL-OGG JAN 7>10 FEB 8>11 MAR 7>10 APR 7>10 MAY 7>10 JUN 7>10 JUL 7>10
YV ITO-HNL JAN 4>2 FEB 5>3 MAR 4>2 APR 4>2 MAY 4>2 JUN 4>2 JUL 4>2
YV KOA-HNL JAN 6>3 FEB 7>4 MAR 6>3 APR 6>3 MAY 6>3 JUN 6>3 JUL 6>3
YV KOA-OGG JAN 0>1.0 FEB 0>1.0 MAR 0>1.0 APR 0>1.0 MAY 0>1.0 JUN 0>1.0 JUL 0>1.0
YV LIH-OGG JAN 0>1.0 FEB 0>1.0 MAR 0>1.0 APR 0>1.0 MAY 0>1.0 JUN 0>1.0 JUL 0>1.0
YV OGG-HNL JAN 7>10 FEB 8>11 MAR 7>10 APR 7>10 MAY 7>10 JUN 7>10 JUL 7>10
YV OGG-KOA JAN 0>1.0 FEB 0>1.0 MAR 0>1.0 APR 0>1.0 MAY 0>1.0 JUN 0>1.0 JUL 0>1.0
YV OGG-LIH JAN 0>1.0 FEB 0>1.0 MAR 0>1.0 APR 0>1.0 MAY 0>1.0 JUN 0>1.0 JUL 0>1.0

Looks like Go! Will be shifting a lot of ops to OGG starting in January. HNL-ITO goes to 2x daily and HNL-KOA goes to 3x daily. Looks like HNL-LIH will remain unchanged. The biggest change is the addition of OGG-KOA and OGG-LIH 1x daily to both. BTW HA shows 25 roundtrips a day between OGG-HNL for January.
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RE: OAG Changes 11/25/2011:AS/CO/DL/NK/US/WN

Thu Nov 24, 2011 5:08 am

Quoting ChrisNH (Reply 21):

Yes, CO will operate with UA on these markets. CO has already been operating BOS-SFO. The 738/9 are just better suited for the westbound then the 320's.
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RE: OAG Changes 11/25/2011:AS/CO/DL/NK/US/WN

Thu Nov 24, 2011 3:54 pm

Quoting FWAERJ (Reply 9):
Quoting enilria (Thread starter):
Wow, an addition!
**DL DTW-CDG JUN 0>1.0 JUL 0>1.0

Not sure if this is additional capacity. AF already flies DTW-CDG, so it might be a AF/KL/DL JV airline swap a la the AF/DL winter switcheroo on ORD-CDG.

As enilria said, this is a net addition. DL is operating a summer-seasonal flight in addition to the AF flight.
There are a couple of reasons for this:
1) Additional capacity to funnel traffic to CDG to offset the reduction in ATL/JFK TATL flights into secondary markets
2) Additional capacity at the peak TATL bank from DTW, last year DL like what NW used to do, put a 744 on the 6pm DTW-AMS flight
3) Balancing ASMs in the DL-KLM-AF JV
4) Adding an additional option to get to CDG earlier in the day

For June/July/August:
DL 590 DTW CDG 5:50pm 7:55am+1 767-300ER
AF 377 DTW CDG 9:40pm 11:25am+1 A340-300
 
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RE: OAG Changes 11/25/2011:AS/CO/DL/NK/US/WN

Thu Nov 24, 2011 4:32 pm

Quoting dsuairptman (Reply 25):
Looks like Go! Will be shifting a lot of ops to OGG starting in January.

Desperate plan of the month!

Quoting PSU.DTW.SCE (Reply 27):
1) Additional capacity to funnel traffic to CDG to offset the reduction in ATL/JFK TATL flights into secondary markets

Good to see something increasing!
 
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RE: OAG Changes 11/25/2011:AS/CO/DL/NK/US/WN

Thu Nov 24, 2011 4:39 pm

Quoting PSU.DTW.SCE (Reply 27):
Additional capacity to funnel traffic to CDG to offset the reduction in ATL/JFK TATL flights into secondary markets

Might I suggest starting the never launched RDU-CDG? Hehehehee..
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RE: OAG Changes 11/25/2011:AS/CO/DL/NK/US/WN

Thu Nov 24, 2011 5:52 pm

As ever thanks for doing what must be a very time consuming report

Quote:
*CO EWR-EDI MAY 1.0>1.9 JUN 1.0>2 JUL 1.0>2

Not as interesting as it seems at first glance. 2xDaily is the usual Summer frequency, but when it was initially loaded for 2012 it was only at 1xDaily. The 2nd Daily has now been 'reinstated'

Though interesting the 2nd Daily hasn't gone to IAD as with MAN+DUB
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RE: OAG Changes 11/25/2011:AS/CO/DL/NK/US/WN

Thu Nov 24, 2011 6:17 pm

No confirmation as to aircraft breakdown for PMCO and PMUA swaps?

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RE: OAG Changes 11/25/2011:AS/CO/DL/NK/US/WN

Thu Nov 24, 2011 7:09 pm

Quoting joeman (Reply 12):
That's gouging and it all simply shows what a messed up industry this is with passenger "service" being the last thing on a legacy carrier priority list, it's all about devotion to the chosen few megahubs at the least cost and at the expense of other markets so they can link any and all city pairs they can.

I'm really not trying to be rude but i'm asking seriously because I don't know. What was your point exactly? What are they to do otherwise in your eyes? Fly to all possible destinations from money losing markets because it's the right thing to do as it's providing "passenger service"?

Quoting yellowtail (Reply 16):
All I can say is it is not surprising!. They are doing well..and nice yields too.....DL is also doing well in BZE now...all at the expense of AA.
Quoting ChrisNH (Reply 21):
I know it's essentially one airline, so I'm not sure why we see both CO and UA listed.

Because they are still two separate airlines. 11-11-11 has come and gone and they still do not have a single operating certificate. Last I heard the new date is the end of the month.

Quoting ERJ170 (Reply 29):
Might I suggest starting the never launched RDU-CDG? Hehehehee..

I'm not sure that we will see RDU-CDG before 2014, however, they have been pushing HARD to grab the RDU-LHR contract from AA. The issue right now aside from that fact that AA has held in steadily forever and a day, they;ll need to get the slot from somewhere. BOS and MIA are non-transferable and they have been looking for an earlier departure time for ATL since service was started so idk.
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RE: OAG Changes 11/25/2011:AS/CO/DL/NK/US/WN

Thu Nov 24, 2011 7:25 pm

I've done a bit of looking at the CO /UA swaps and adds/deletes on CO services into UA hubs and UA services into CO hubs. No idea about equipment.

SWAPS
DEN-BWI CO 0>1 , UA 4>3
DEN-LGA CO 0>2, UA 5>3
DEN-PHL CO 0>1, UA 1.9>1
DEN-TPA CO 0>1, UA 2>1
EWR-LAS CO 7>6, UA 0>1
IAD-DEN CO 0>1, UA 9>8
IAD PHX CO 0>1, UA 1>0
IAD-SEA CO 0>1, UA 3>2
IAD-TPA CO 0>1, UA 3>2
IAH-ATL CO 6>5, UA 0>1
IAH-DEN CO 7>10, UA 4>1
IAH-IAD CO 3>4, UA 5>4
IAH-PHX CO 7>6, UA 0>1
IAH-SEA CO 8>6, UA 0>2
LAX-BOS CO 0>1, UA 2>1
LAX-BWI CO 0>1, UA 1>0
ORD-DCA CO 0>2, UA 14>12
ORD-DEN CO 0>1, UA 10>9
ORD-EWR CO 7>8, UA 9>8
ORD-LAX CO 0>2, UA 13>11
ORD-MCO CO 0>1, UA 6>5
ORD-SEA CO 0>1, UA 6>5
ORD-SNA CO 0>2, UA 4>1.9
SFO-BOS CO 0>3, UA 6>3
SFO-PDX CO 0>1, UA 7>6
SFO-PHX CO 0>1, UA 4>3
Category net: CO +19, UA -19

ADDITIONS
DEN-CLE CO No Change, UA 0.9>1.9 (+1)
DEN-PHX CO 0>2, UA 6>5 (+1)
EWR-DEN CO 5>6, UA 1>2 (+2)
EWR-MCO CO 10>11, UA 0>1 (+2)
EWR-MIA CO No Change, UA 0>2 (+2)
EWR-SAT CO No Change, UA 0>1 (+1)
EWR-SNA CO No change, UA 0>1 (+1)
IAH-BOS CO No change, UA 0>1 (+1)
IAH-DCA CO No change, UA 0>2 (+2)
IAH-EWR CO No change, UA 0>1 (+1)
IAH-LAS CO No change, UA 0>1 (+1)
IAH-LGA CO No change, UA 0>3 (+3)
IAH-PDX CO No Change, UA 0>1 (+1)
IAH-PHL CO No Change, UA 0>1 (+1)
LAX-CLE CO No change, UA 0>3 (+3)
ORD-ANC CO 0>1 UA No change (+1) JUN
ORD-LAS CO 0>1, UA No change (+1)
SFO-ANC CO 0>1, UA No Change (+1)
SFO-DEN CO 0>2, UA No change (+2)
SFO-CLE CO No change, UA 0>2 (+2)
SFO-EWR CO 6>7, UA 2>4 (+3)
Category Net: CO +10, UA +23

REDUCTIONS
EWR-SEA CO 5>3, UA 0>1 (-1)
IAH-DTW CO 4>1.9, UA 0>1 (-2)
LAX-EWR CO 8>7, UA No change (-1)
LAX-IAH CO 13>10, UA 0>1 (-2)
LAX-SFO CO 0>2, UA 16>13 (-1)
SFO-SEA CO 0>2, UA 8>5 (-1)
Category Net: CO -12 UA -3

Net of all categories CO +17, UA +1
This total is just of these routes, not including additions/reductions on each carriers other hub routes.
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RE: OAG Changes 11/25/2011:AS/CO/DL/NK/US/WN

Thu Nov 24, 2011 8:17 pm

Quoting CALPSAFltSkeds (Reply 33):
Net of all categories CO +17, UA +1
This total is just of these routes, not including additions/reductions on each carriers other hub routes.


Sort of along the same lines, I quickly looked at each UA/CO hub, and below are the changes including both UA/CO, and the numbers are first the net domestic change, then the net international change, and then total change.


IAH…..-18.8…..3.4…..-15.4
LAX…..-12.1…..0.3…..-11.8
EWR ..-2.8…..-7.9…..-10.7
DEN…..-9.1…..-1.0….-10.1
CLE…..-6.7…..0.0…..-6.7
IAD…..-0.5…..-1.9…..-2.4
ORD…..-3.2…..1.1…..-2.1
SFO…..5.1….. -0.1…..5.0

Except for SFO, all stations have had some cuts, with IAH surprisingly having the largest amount.

Just using the same info above, nothing really significant in terms of numbers, but just wanted to note that WN has added 12 flights at DEN. So the DEN trend is obviously WN up and UA/CO down....

[Edited 2011-11-24 12:34:35]
 
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RE: OAG Changes 11/25/2011:AS/CO/DL/NK/US/WN

Thu Nov 24, 2011 9:18 pm

Quoting point2point (Reply 34):


with IAH surprisingly having the largest amount.

Probably not that surprising as its the largest UA/CO hub to start with.
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RE: OAG Changes 11/25/2011:AS/CO/DL/NK/US/WN

Fri Nov 25, 2011 12:04 am

Quoting OzarkD9S (Reply 35):

Probably not that surprising as its the largest UA/CO hub to start with.

True...
We won't have a complete picture unless we see the aircraft breakdown. If there is a shift of 757s to IAH and EWR etc. then the cuts may not be as drastic. Not that I expect that to make a huge difference.
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RE: OAG Changes 11/25/2011:AS/CO/DL/NK/US/WN

Fri Nov 25, 2011 2:45 am

Quoting FlyASAGuy2005 (Reply 32):
I'm not sure that we will see RDU-CDG before 2014

Ohhhh.. I'm sadden now. But at least it's only 2 years away.. uhmm..

Quoting FlyASAGuy2005 (Reply 32):
The issue right now aside from that fact that AA has held in steadily forever and a day, they;ll need to get the slot from somewhere.

Oh.. I'm sure AA would love to get that RDU flight for another MIA, JFK, or ORD flight. Delta could potentially get one from BMI or VS, maybe? Hmm..
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RE: OAG Changes 11/25/2011:AS/CO/DL/NK/US/WN

Fri Nov 25, 2011 3:28 pm

Quoting enilria (Thread starter):
CO CLE-SBN MAR 3>1.5 APR 3>1.4

Qouting FWAERJ
With the very poor loads on that route (sub-30%), I'd say that UA/CO will replace it with a daily EWR or IAH in short order. Or maybe if UA is feeling gutsy, they could launch SBN-DEN to beat F9 to the punch. (For those not in the know, F9 is interested in SBN-DEN due to SBN's recently awarded SCASD grant for DEN service.)

SBN-EWR and SBN-IAH most likely is coming. As far as SBN-DEN goes, the flight (UA) would have to be operated with Shuttle America E170 jets. The scope clause on United's pilot contract would prevent F9 from operating the route if Shuttle America operates it because the F9 E190's that would operate this route are operated by Republic, another Republic Airlines (Holding Company) carrier. The Scope Clause prevents them from competing on the same route. UA would also not get the SASCD money to operate this route either.
 
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RE: OAG Changes 11/25/2011:AS/CO/DL/NK/US/WN

Fri Nov 25, 2011 3:34 pm

UA/CO could also beaf up SBN-ORD to all 70-seaters with the loss of the CLE flights. Right now they have a few 70-seaters on the SBN-ORD run with almost all of the service SBN-ORD taken over by Expressjet E145's.
 
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Fri Nov 25, 2011 4:13 pm

With the DL US route Swap SBN-LGA is a possibility on DL using CRJ9's or E170's.
 
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RE: OAG Changes 11/25/2011:AS/CO/DL/NK/US/WN

Fri Nov 25, 2011 4:57 pm

Quoting freakyrat (Reply 40):
With the DL US route Swap SBN-LGA is a possibility on DL using CRJ9's or E170's.

'Generally' speaking, DL's strategy for large RJs on routes sub 750 miles is to provide a "seamless" experience for HVCs in F connecting to longer trans-cons/mid-cons and international flights. If you look at some routes ex ATL, there may be 5x daily CR2s with a lone CR7/9 timed for an international bank, Now this isn't always the case. If the market is there for purchased F seats then they will do it or simply for a/c utilization which is the major reason.

With LGA, most of the flights will survive on the O&D. Little to no connections so i'm not sure that we will see a market like SBN get a large RJ to LGA. Just my opinion though.
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Fri Nov 25, 2011 5:38 pm

Quoting FWAERJ (Reply 9):
With the very poor loads on that route (sub-30%), I'd say that UA/CO will replace it with a daily EWR or IAH in short order. Or maybe if UA is feeling gutsy, they could launch SBN-DEN to beat F9 to the punch. (For those not in the know, F9 is interested in SBN-DEN due to SBN's recently awarded SCASD grant for DEN service.)

In what world do airlines replace capacity on poorly performing routes from small markets with capacity to other hubs? You know what they replaced CRW-CLE with? Nothing. This isn't like DL pulling CVG routes with reasonable loads and sending the capacity to DTW. It's not like SBN-EWR would be an entirely new direction of flow for them either.

You may have an argument for IAH...that said it's still a long and thin route. I don't know of any airlines chomping at the bit to add long, thin regional jet routes at the moment. It would take an extremely strong business case to coax UA into flying that. SBN is so close to ORD that if there were truly a need for more capacity it would seem logical to add ORD.
 
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Fri Nov 25, 2011 6:01 pm

SBN-EWR has been flown on football weekends and was once flown by United during the Caravelle days and also with a B727 by United. The New York market is the top connecting market out of SBN. UA has plenty of capacity to ORD already from SBN and have upped a lot of flights during the busy season and during the busy days and times to E170's and CR7's. A better case could be made for Eagle returning with Regional Jet service to DFW and providing better connecting opportunities than a congested airport like ORD. As far as SBN-IAH being a long and thin route, What is SBN-ATL on Delta. All 3 flights to ATL coming and going out of SBN are near or at capacity all the time.
 
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Fri Nov 25, 2011 7:18 pm

Quoting freakyrat (Reply 43):
As far as SBN-IAH being a long and thin route, What is SBN-ATL on Delta. All 3 flights to ATL coming and going out of SBN are near or at capacity all the time.

It's 492nm compared to 828nm.....so it's a shorter route with more o&d and more connecting opportunities. Everyones ATL flights are near capacity; that's generally how ATL works unless you're an EAS city.

Quoting freakyrat (Reply 43):
The New York market is the top connecting market out of SBN.

SBN-NYC has healthy traffic for a city it's size and shouldn't have any problem making a 50 seater work. I'd imagine DL would be the best bet on service with a daily LGA flight after the slot swap.
 
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RE: OAG Changes 11/25/2011:AS/CO/DL/NK/US/WN

Sat Nov 26, 2011 2:25 am

Quoting freakyrat (Reply 38):
As far as SBN-DEN goes, the flight (UA) would have to be operated with Shuttle America E170 jets. The scope clause on United's pilot contract would prevent F9 from operating the route if Shuttle America operates it because the F9 E190's that would operate this route are operated by Republic, another Republic Airlines (Holding Company) carrier. The Scope Clause prevents them from competing on the same route.

That's not how the scope clause restriction works; Republic operates the E190 for Frontier on certain frequencies between DEN and DFW (along with other markets) while Shuttle America operates the E170 as United Express between DEN and DFW, too. The scope clause restriction has been on the individual carriers, not the holding company.

Quoting enilria (Reply 1):
UA DEN-ABQ MAR 6>5
UA DEN-BOI MAR 6>5
UA DEN-BOS APR 4>3
UA DEN-BWI APR 4>3
UA DEN-CLE APR 0.9>1.9
Wow this market used to have 4 RTs in it (UA+F9) during peak and now is just a few times on UA in some months.
*UA DEN-CUN APR 1.0>0.7 MAY 1.0>0.4 JUN 1.0>0.7 JUL 1.0>0.7
UA DEN-CVG FEB 1.5>1.0 MAR 1.8>1.0
UA DEN-GJT MAR 7>6
UA DEN-LAS FEB 5>4 MAR 6>5 APR 6>5
*UA DEN-LGA APR 5>3
UA DEN-MSY MAR 3>2
UA DEN-OGG MAR 0.2>1.0
UA DEN-OKC MAR 5>4
UA DEN-ONT APR 3>2 MAY 3>2 JUN 3>2 JUL 3>2
UA DEN-PHL APR 1.9>1.0
UA DEN-PHX APR 6>5
*UA DEN-PVR APR 1.0>0.6 MAY 1.0>0.4 JUN 1.0>0.3 JUL 1.0>0.3
UA DEN-RAP MAR 7>6
UA DEN-SAN MAR 5>4
Interesting that this one is increased...
*UA DEN-SJD APR 0.1>0.3 MAY 0.1>0.3 JUN 0.2>0.3
UA DEN-TPA APR 2>1.0

Some of these cuts are offset by the CO additions above, but it is quite surprising to see cuts at DEN in a month which ought to be relatively strong with ski traffic -- i.e. in markets like DEN-BOS, DEN-MSY, & DEN-SAN. Then again, perhaps we haven't seen all the offsetting CO additions yet.

Quoting enilria (Reply 2):
UA IAH-BOS APR 0>1.0
Quoting enilria (Thread starter):
CO SFO-BOS APR 0>3

Unless they plan to (at least temporarily) consolidate their presence at BOS, I can see a fair bit of passenger confusion as to where to check in.

Quoting enilria (Reply 2):
WN HOU-HRL MAY 7>5 JUN 7>5 JUL 7>5

Kind of surprising to see that steep of a cut on this route.
 
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RE: OAG Changes 11/25/2011:AS/CO/DL/NK/US/WN

Sat Nov 26, 2011 2:36 am

Quoting Humberside (Reply 30):

As ever thanks for doing what must be a very time consuming report

THANKS!

Quoting Humberside (Reply 30):
Though interesting the 2nd Daily hasn't gone to IAD as with MAN+DUB

I agree, although it is fair to say that there is probably nearly zero O&D to IAD from EDI.

Quoting CALPSAFltSkeds (Reply 33):
I've done a bit of looking at the CO /UA swaps and adds/deletes on CO services into UA hubs and UA services into CO hubs. No idea about equipment.

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Quoting point2point (Reply 34):
Just using the same info above, nothing really significant in terms of numbers, but just wanted to note that WN has added 12 flights at DEN. So the DEN trend is obviously WN up and UA/CO down....

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Quoting freakyrat (Reply 38):
I'd say that UA/CO will replace it with a daily EWR or IAH in short order.
Quoting freakyrat (Reply 38):
SBN-EWR and SBN-IAH most likely is coming.
Quoting freakyrat (Reply 43):
SBN-EWR has been flown on football weekends and was once flown by United during the Caravelle days

UA/CO's strategy for EWR is to eliminate small markets and fly key destinations to eliminate congestion as much as possible and manage their slots. While there are exceptions to this, I'd be shocked to see SBN added.

Quoting ScottB (Reply 45):
Some of these cuts are offset by the CO additions above, but it is quite surprising to see cuts at DEN in a month which ought to be relatively strong with ski traffic -- i.e. in markets like DEN-BOS, DEN-MSY, & DEN-SAN. Then again, perhaps we haven't seen all the offsetting CO additions yet.

Sadly I equate more usefulness to the G4 updates than the CO/UA updates because they are such a tangled mess.

Quoting ScottB (Reply 45):
Kind of surprising to see that steep of a cut on this route.

I think the day will come when WN leaves CRP, HRL, and MAF. It may be 10 years away, but the day is coming.

That might actually be an interesting thread for somebody to start. As WN's costs rise and their strategy changes, what long-held WN cities are the most likely to be closed? (as opposed to FL stations)
 
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RE: OAG Changes 11/25/2011:AS/CO/DL/NK/US/WN

Sat Nov 26, 2011 2:46 am

What does/would SBN-IAH bring to the table that couldn't be handled over ORD (or even DEN). Airlines are not likely in this day and age to start flying long/thin RJ routes over 700 miles that overfly other hubs unless there is some commanding reason to do so.
 
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RE: OAG Changes 11/25/2011:AS/CO/DL/NK/US/WN

Sat Nov 26, 2011 5:04 am

Quoting Kcrwflyer (Reply 44):

SBN-NYC has healthy traffic for a city it's size and shouldn't have any problem making a 50 seater work. I'd imagine DL would be the best bet on service with a daily LGA flight after the slot swap.
Quoting Kcrwflyer (Reply 44):
It's 492nm compared to 828nm.....so it's a shorter route with more o&d and more connecting opportunities. Everyones ATL flights are near capacity; that's generally how ATL works unless you're an EAS city.

I was born & raised in SBN, but I have to say that I don't see SBN-NYC coming anytime soon. First, DL is drawing down the 50 seaters. Delta retired a lot of Saabs earlier this year and will most likely retire more next year as fuel goes up.

Second the prices don't justify it. My family just flew SBN-NYC thru CLE on UA for $208 r/t. In general people will choose price over everything else, even number of connections, and at $208 you can't support a 50 seat RJ.

Third, there's not enough slots to go around. UA would rather have a high RASM flight using that slot, not a RJ without any premium customers. LGA is also slot restricted, and although DL has a lot more to play with now, they will go through them quickly.

I'd like to see UA add SBN-DEN or SBN-IAH but those are flights best served by a C-Series 100 seater, just because of their length, and UA doesn't seem interested in adding that type of plane to their fleet.
 
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RE: OAG Changes 11/25/2011:AS/CO/DL/NK/US/WN

Sat Nov 26, 2011 7:04 am

Qouting Bolleria

"I was born & raised in SBN, but I have to say that I don't see SBN-NYC coming anytime soon. First, DL is drawing down the 50 seaters. Delta retired a lot of Saabs earlier this year and will most likely retire more next year as fuel goes up.

Second the prices don't justify it. My family just flew SBN-NYC thru CLE on UA for $208 r/t. In general people will choose price over everything else, even number of connections, and at $208 you can't support a 50 seat RJ."

Just recently I flew DFW-SBN on DL through ATL for $252.00 R/T.

As far as SBN-DEN goes, those flights may start next year on F9 using E190 acft. SBN-IAH could be run with a CR7 which has EXPLUS seating. UA uses jets with EXPLUS seating from SBN-ORD. SBN-IAH could also be run with a B737-500. We shall see what happens in SBN when the new security area is finished in February and they can rehang the jetways on A2 and A4 and also install the new jetway on A8 which is used to park the CO Dash8's temporarily and doesn't as yet have a jetway installed. What's left of the SBN-CLE run than can go back to A1 and park and F9 can come in and use A8.

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