JosephJarvis
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Continental Airlines LGW Operations

Sat Dec 03, 2011 12:25 am

Hi everyone,

Continental Airlines has now merged with United Airlines and become one airline. They will be missed. Its a good thing they kept the globe tail design though as it never gets boring.

I remember when Continental used to operate services to LGW years ago and I am particularly interested in their 777 routes from LGW. I have seen various photographs between 1999 and 2004 of Continental 777s at London Gatwick, sometimes seeing three 777s parked along side each other at Gatwick's South Terminal Main Pier.

I see two 777s, sometimes three 777s in some photographs at LGW between 1999 and 2004, and in other shots I see other Continental aircraft such as 767-400s and 767-200s.

My question is did they operate the same number of flights per day and were they all operated using Boeing 777s or did they use different aircraft as well?

Also, presumabably they had 3 777 services on some days, maybe more. Does anyone know how many 777 services they had on a typical day at London Gatwick and whether all their LGW services were operated using 777s or not? Also what time the aircraft arrived and departed at LGW, as it appears some of their aircraft were there for quite some time?

Wondered if anyone could help me with any of this please?

Thank you for your time.
 
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RE: Continental Airlines LGW Operations

Sat Dec 03, 2011 12:38 am

In 2005 they had four B777s, two IAH, two EWR, with CLE as a B757.
 
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RE: Continental Airlines LGW Operations

Sat Dec 03, 2011 12:51 am

Quoting skipness1E (Reply 1):
In 2005 they had four B777s, two IAH, two EWR, with CLE as a B757.

Thanks for the reply. Do you know any of the departure or arrival times of any of these flights?

Thanks.
 
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RE: Continental Airlines LGW Operations

Sat Dec 03, 2011 10:16 am

Sure, I'll boot up the laptop later and add some colour.
 
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RE: Continental Airlines LGW Operations

Sat Dec 03, 2011 1:54 pm

CO had a very long history at LGW. Before the 777, they operated many routes with the DC10.
And DEN-LGW was a DC10 for many, many, many years.
 
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RE: Continental Airlines LGW Operations

Sat Dec 03, 2011 3:13 pm

For many years the DC10 was CO's main product. Then in 1999 they did a 777 and a DC10 combo to LGW. Right after 9/11, they retired the DC10 from that route.
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RE: Continental Airlines LGW Operations

Sat Dec 03, 2011 3:25 pm

Quoting klwright69 (Reply 4):
And DEN-LGW was a DC10 for many, many, many years.

Ahhhh, I did this route twice on the way to LAX and once got upgraded to First from Business, that's when CO did international First. Remember they carved the meat at your seat at dinner. Also experienced a 767 from EWR into LGW.
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RE: Continental Airlines LGW Operations

Sat Dec 03, 2011 6:42 pm


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I guess that CO inaugurated their LGW service from DEN - in the beginning of the 1980s with DC-10-30s (was not able to find any prove for that though)...

The pic above shows a People Express 747 next to a CO DC-10. I assume CO only flew to EWR after taking over People Express in 1987?

I always liked the DC-10s of Continental, and I have also liked their globe-livery a lot. DC-10s were the aicraft that were used in their massive European expansion in the late 90s,

here a pic from LGW from April 1996 (when there was still the dearly missed spectators' terrace)...



Continental Airlines DC-10-30; N14062@LGW;14.04.1996 by Aero Icarus, on Flickr
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RE: Continental Airlines LGW Operations

Sat Dec 03, 2011 6:53 pm

Hi there,

As far as departure are concerned if I remember correctly:

CO35 LGW-IAH at 0935
CO5 LGW-IAH at 1200
CO19 LGW-EWR at 1115
CO29 LGW - EWR at 1315

The last may be a bit off time

CO67 LGW-CLE at 11 something!

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RE: Continental Airlines LGW Operations

Sat Dec 03, 2011 8:06 pm

Quoting HBIHLtoEZE (Reply 7):
I guess that CO inaugurated their LGW service from DEN - in the beginning of the 1980s with DC-10-30s (was not able to find any prove for that though)...

The pic above shows a People Express 747 next to a CO DC-10. I assume CO only flew to EWR after taking over People Express in 1987?

Continental's first service to Gatwick began in the April or May of 1985 with a single nonstop-roundtrip to Houston Intercontinental.

Continental's Newark service was, as you stated, a result of The People Express acquisition. People Express began the route on May 26, 1983 and it became a Continental route effective February 1, 1987.

The Denver route followed, beginning as a 4x weekly flight on June 14, 1987.
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RE: Continental Airlines LGW Operations

Sat Dec 03, 2011 8:35 pm

Quoting HBIHLtoEZE (Reply 7):
I guess that CO inaugurated their LGW service from DEN - in the beginning of the 1980s with DC-10-30s (was not able to find any prove for that though)...

The original DEN-LGW was a Western DC-10 service - it didn't last very long. CO became a LGW operator when they took over PeoplExpress and their EWR route. They built up the LGW operation from there, adding other CO cities.
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RE: Continental Airlines LGW Operations

Sat Dec 03, 2011 9:43 pm

No mention of Continental 747s yet, from after the PEx take-over to the mid '90s IIRC. All EWR, I seem to recall.

Regards - musang
 
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RE: Continental Airlines LGW Operations

Sat Dec 03, 2011 10:38 pm

CO @ LGW June 1987

DEN-LGW
CO34 lv 1915 arr 1105+1d D10 X136
LGW-DEN
CO35 lv 1400 arr 1630 D10 X247

IAH-LGW
CO4 lv 1850 arr 0950+1d D10
LGW-IAH
CO5 lv 1145 arr 1555 D10

EWR-LGW
CO28 lv 1930 arr 0715+1d 747
LGW-EWR
CO25 lv 1400 arr 1640 747

MIA-LGW
CO30 lv 1945 arr 0915+1d D10
LGW-MIA
CO31 lv 1115 arr 1515 D10

[Edited 2011-12-03 14:38:57]
 
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RE: Continental Airlines LGW Operations

Sat Dec 03, 2011 10:59 pm

I remember these times very well (well I should do as it was only a few years ago  ), the only American carriers at LHR were UA and AA. To get your fix of DL, US, CO and NW you had to head down to LGW. For many years the airlines campaigned to get Bermuda II removed so that the other carriers could fly from LHR. This also meant that certain destinations in the US could only be served from LGW.

Openskies finally put an end to that mess a few years ago, and finally all airlines can operate with full competition from LHR.
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RE: Continental Airlines LGW Operations

Sun Dec 04, 2011 2:09 pm

OKAY, the 2005 view

CO18 0640 Newark B777
CO34 0655 Houston B777
CO66 0750 Cleveland B757
CO28 0830 Newark B777
CO4 0955 Houston B777
CO104 1000 Newark B757

CO35 0930 Houston B777
CO19 1030 Newark B777
CO67 1155 Cleveland B757
CO5 1200 Houston B777
CO105 1200 Newark B757
CO29 1230 Newark B777

This was the view that lasted until the move to LHR, when LGW had the following on summer 2008

CO114 0655 Newark B757
CO34 0745 Houston B764
CO116 0840 Newark B757

CO35 0930 Houston B764
CO115 1030 Newark B757
CO117 1130 Newark B757

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RE: Continental Airlines LGW Operations

Sun Dec 04, 2011 3:03 pm

Quoting skipness1E (Reply 14):

Thanks for the info, thats excellent. That's quite a long time for Continental Airlines to keep some of their aircraft on the ground at LGW. It can't of been that cheap for them to do this on a daily basis?

Regards,
 
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RE: Continental Airlines LGW Operations

Sun Dec 04, 2011 3:51 pm

CO took over the MIA-LGW route from Eastern around '87. EA acquired some DC-10s from AZ to launch MIA-LGW and MIA-MAD, they launched LGW but not MAD. Later when they transferred the route to CO Eastern used those DC-10s to first operate MIA-EZE-SCL and later MIA-GIG-EZE.

CO sold the MIA-London authorities to AA around the time they purchased EA's Latin America operations.
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RE: Continental Airlines LGW Operations

Sun Dec 04, 2011 4:15 pm

Quoting CODC10 (Reply 12):
CO @ LGW June 1987

DEN-LGW
CO34 lv 1915 arr 1105+1d D10 X136
LGW-DEN
CO35 lv 1400 arr 1630 D10 X247

A few bits of trivia. CO 34/35 was part of one of the first modern-day codeshares between airlines of different countries. By the time I started flying this route in 1988, CO35 originated in AMS as a flight on a regularly scheduled Transavia 737-200, complete with a row of Business Class configured 2x2, and offered a complete hot meal in J, sandwiches in a lunch bag in Y. Same with CO34, it terminated in AMS on the turnaround of the codeshared Transavia flight.

When the DC-10 continued to LAX or HNL from DEN, CO would give out new boarding passes in the customs area when rechecking bags. The cardstock for LGW-DEN said Continental International, while the BPs at DEN said Continental Micronesia.

Quoting JosephJarvis (Reply 15):
It can't of been that cheap for them to do this on a daily basis?

As was pointed out in the other thread, the cost to park a plane at a gate for a few hours is highly exaggerated on a.net. Some airports even include a set number of hours of parking in with the landing fee.
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RE: Continental Airlines LGW Operations

Mon Dec 05, 2011 2:12 am

Was the DEN-HNL portion of CO35 started at the same time that the LGW-DEN portion started (June of 1987) or was it started later?
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RE: Continental Airlines LGW Operations

Mon Dec 05, 2011 3:24 am

Who uses the check-in area at LGW South Terminal where CO used to be - the one where you had to take a ramp going to a lower level? Also, did anybody take over the PC that was at LGW South?
 
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RE: Continental Airlines LGW Operations

Mon Dec 05, 2011 9:39 am

Air Transat and Aer Lingus last time I was through in October.
 
JosephJarvis
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RE: Continental Airlines LGW Operations

Wed Dec 07, 2011 10:50 am

What routes would they have operated the 767-200 and 767-400 on?
 
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RE: Continental Airlines LGW Operations

Wed Dec 07, 2011 11:08 am

Quoting JosephJarvis (Reply 21):
What routes would they have operated the 767-200 and 767-400 on?

I have seen the B762 on LGW-EWR and the B764 on LGW-IAH.
 
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RE: Continental Airlines LGW Operations

Wed Dec 07, 2011 11:15 pm

It seems that Newark was served by Continental from Gatwick twice daily with both services using 777s, but also a 777 and a 767-200 or 767-400. It seems the morning Newark service was always operated by a 777, but the afternoon service was operated by a 777 or a 767. I have been taking a look through the LGW-LHR Archive website and many flight logs between 1999 and 2004 show that the afternoon CO19 LGW-EWR service using a 777 departed significantly earlier than when it was operated by a 767. The logs show the 777 operating the route always departed around 13:15-13:30pm, whereas the logs show the 767 departed around 15:00-15:30pm, sometimes even as late as 16:15! I have seen various photos of Continental 767-200s and 767-400s parked at a remote stand at Gatwick but never a 777. Also other photos indicate the 767 left quite late in the day as it is shown being towed onto stand at the South Terminal when most other North American traffic had departed.

Can anyone help me out on this please?

Regards,
 
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RE: Continental Airlines LGW Operations

Thu Dec 08, 2011 2:16 pm

Quoting JosephJarvis (Thread starter):

Continental Airlines has now merged with United Airlines and become one airline. They will be missed. Its a good thing they kept the globe tail design though as it never gets boring.


You must not see it alot, it gets down right lame! wish they would have come up with a new paint scheme when the two merged. I hear people call the globe on the tail, the Death Star! or a sewer grate.

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