olba
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Untitled 747 At SFO

Tue Dec 06, 2011 2:49 am

Hey everyone,
Last night i was on a UA flight from SFO to LAX and realized an untitled 747 at the United maintenance. I think it had United colors. Can anyone provide me more info on this aircraft? it is supposed to be scrapped?

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RE: Untitled 747 At SFO

Tue Dec 06, 2011 3:35 am

It is possible that UA was leasing it out.
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RE: Untitled 747 At SFO

Tue Dec 06, 2011 4:59 am

Quoting OLBA (Thread starter):

I don't have the reg's, but there are actually a few UA birds that appear to be leaving the fleet. There is also a 757 with title's and Tulip gone. They have been here a few weeks.
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RE: Untitled 747 At SFO

Tue Dec 06, 2011 5:19 am

I'm pretty sure its N173UA. I believe the lease ended in October.
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SEA
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RE: Untitled 747 At SFO

Tue Dec 06, 2011 5:27 am

Would this 744 have had the new interior with IFE in Y?
 
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RE: Untitled 747 At SFO

Tue Dec 06, 2011 6:31 am

Quoting LAXintl (Reply 3):
I'm pretty sure its N173UA. I believe the lease ended in October.

Looks like a good guess to me. All signs point to its last flight being in late September.

I got some pictures of it back in August, too. Likely the last time I saw it.
 
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RE: Untitled 747 At SFO

Tue Dec 06, 2011 8:09 am

Quoting SEA (Reply 4):
Would this 744 have had the new interior with IFE in Y?

I think all the 744s in service now have IPTE. As for PTVs in Y, if that's what you mean, I think putting PTVs in Y on the 744s would have required all new seats and with the 787s and 350s coming on line in the next 5 years to replace the 744s, PMUA wasn't willing to make that kind of investment in the comfort of their lowest yielding passengers. Who knows, maybe now that CO has taken over and LH is putting PTVs in Y on their 744s, we'll see a change. I guess we'll just have to wait and see.

I do have to wonder though, when an airline puts in a proprietary hard product, like IPTE, on a leased airplane, then returns the plane to the lessor, do they put back the previous generation first and business class seats? or just fill in the empty spaces with coach seats? I can't imagine UA would not tear out the IPTE seats before they hand it over, as those are the property of United, not the lessor, I would think.

Feel free to correct me.
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RE: Untitled 747 At SFO

Tue Dec 06, 2011 8:44 am

Those two planes are still there? They've been sitting there for ages. I believe the B744 is awaiting original engines that were swapped out during it's service.
 
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RE: Untitled 747 At SFO

Tue Dec 06, 2011 8:18 pm

Has United replaced these returned 744s with other aircraft or is it reducing the number of aircraft it operates? Has anyone picked up the lease for these 744s? They must be pretty well maintained. How many 744s are parked these days without a home?


Quoting NorthstarBoy (Reply 6):
I can't imagine UA would not tear out the IPTE seats before they hand it over, as those are the property of United, not the lessor, I would think.

So where does UAL store unused business class seats?? That must be an interesting warehouse to wander through!
 
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RE: Untitled 747 At SFO

Tue Dec 06, 2011 8:32 pm

Noting the data acquired by: http://data.flight24.com/airplanes/n173ua/ the last flight was UAL9925 today

Flightaware shows: http://flightaware.com/live/flight/U...5/history/20111206/1730Z/KSFO/KMZJ

So it appears it was ferried SFO-MZJ and arrived 45 mins ago.

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RE: Untitled 747 At SFO

Wed Dec 07, 2011 1:23 am

Quoting NorthstarBoy (Reply 6):
and LH is putting PTVs in Y on their 744s, we'll see a change. I guess we'll just have to wait and see.

Yes, but keep in mind that LH is only going to be installing the PTVs in Y on the 16 (?? 16 sounds right) 744's that will be staying in the fleet. The others are not being refitted and will be replaced by 748's which will have the PTVs.
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