Chamonix
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You Fly An Alliance,Not An Airline!

Tue Dec 06, 2011 11:39 am

Interesting IHT article on the future of air travel.
http://www.nytimes.com/2011/12/06/bu...ll-about-alliances.html?ref=global
 
Burkhard
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RE: You Fly An Alliance,Not An Airline!

Tue Dec 06, 2011 11:54 am

Times of national carriers are over, and the time of 1000 competing tiny airlines is going to end, the biggets with 4% world wide market share. There will be three effective airlines offering full connections from every significant airport to every significant airport. Due to over regulation and extremely protective laws in some countries that date back into the 50th of last century the aid mean of alliances still has to use, where there is not place for more than 3 airlines on the world market.

Why can there be more airlines on the market as car makers?
 
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RE: You Fly An Alliance,Not An Airline!

Tue Dec 06, 2011 11:00 pm

Quoting Burkhard (Reply 1):
not place for more than 3 airlines on the world market.

A bit (well, probably a LOT) extreme but given that profits are hard to come by in the airline industry there probably are too many carriers. Take away all the protectionism and it will sort itself out pretty quick with a few big multinational mergers. The problem is that it will almost certainly result in higher fares AND poorer service.
 
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RE: You Fly An Alliance,Not An Airline!

Wed Dec 07, 2011 1:28 am

Quoting Burkhard (Reply 1):
Why can there be more airlines on the market as car makers?

May I suggest some are a little too caught up in the alliance hysteria desperately advertised by the old school "legacy" airliines? I have yet to see the alliance addiction conjure up reliable profits year-in and year-out like some of the non-allied airlines.

Is Ryanair in an alliance? They carry more in Europe than Lufthansa or BA.
Is Southwest in an alliance?
FlyBe? A surprisingly big airline with lots of destinations.
Spirit?
jetBlue?
easyJet?
...lots others

The number of people who need to be in Hong Kong one week, Paris next week and Chicago the week after that is actually very tiny and so alliances are overrated...the vast majority of us fly only in our local region or to other regions on our local airline almost exclusively.

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