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Ryanair Announces Its 48th Base - Billund

Tue Dec 06, 2011 1:39 pm

Starting in March.

Initially 2 738s and 5 new routes, for a total of 19 routes from BLL.

The 5 new ones are: Carcassonne, Corfu, Krakow, Venice/Treviso and Zadar.

These 19 routes are expected to deliver 800,000 passengers/year to BLL.

Source: http://www.irishexaminer.com/breakin...air-opens-billund-base-531158.html

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Good to see FR launch another base. This will be its third in Scandinavia after NYO and RYG.
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RE: Ryanair Announces Its 48th Base - Billund

Tue Dec 06, 2011 2:48 pm

Quoting Pe@rson (Thread starter):
19 routes from BLL

Don't you mean Copenhagen West?

Good luck to them. Nice to see an airline actually expanding and more jobs for Billund.
and with that..cabin crew, seats for landing please.
 
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RE: Ryanair Announces Its 48th Base - Billund

Tue Dec 06, 2011 3:55 pm

Quoting Babybus (Reply 1):


Don't you mean Copenhagen West?

No, I mean Billund. If I were completely unoriginal I would say Copenhagen West.
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RE: Ryanair Announces Its 48th Base - Billund

Tue Dec 06, 2011 10:23 pm

Quoting Pe@rson (Reply 2):
No, I mean Billund. If I were completely unoriginal I would say Copenhagen West.

Correct me if I'm wrong, but didn't Ryanair at one time sell flights to Malmø that were listed as Copenhagen..?
 
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RE: Ryanair Announces Its 48th Base - Billund

Wed Dec 07, 2011 10:11 am

Quoting Pe@rson (Thread starter):
This will be its third in Scandinavia after NYO and RYG.

Seems like FR tries to cover the Scandinavian capitals... Oslo, Stockholm and now... Legoland!
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RE: Ryanair Announces Its 48th Base - Billund

Wed Dec 07, 2011 10:23 am

Quoting Babybus (Reply 1):
Don't you mean Copenhagen West?

It's the primary airport for Jutland, serving roughly 2,5M high-income inhabitants. It takes almost 3 hours and a toll-bridge to get from Billund to Copenhagen.

It serves as the biggest airport for the area (EBJ, AAR and AAL are all smaller, and not always an alternative) and for vacation flights for people living south of Billund, it also competes with HAM.

Quoting shufflemoomin (Reply 3):
Correct me if I'm wrong, but didn't Ryanair at one time sell flights to Malmø that were listed as Copenhagen..?

True, but MMX is way closer to CPH than BLL. More important, MMX positions itself as an alternative for CPH. For Danish passengers for example, they offer steep discounts on the toll for the Oresund bridge.

Since the bridge has been built, actually CPH has become an alternative for MMX for people from Malmo. CPH is about as far from Malmo as MMX and has very frequent train connections.
 
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RE: Ryanair Announces Its 48th Base - Billund

Wed Dec 07, 2011 10:50 am

Quoting joost (Reply 5):

It's the primary airport for Jutland, serving roughly 2,5M high-income inhabitants. It takes almost 3 hours and a toll-bridge to get from Billund to Copenhagen.

It serves as the biggest airport for the area (EBJ, AAR and AAL are all smaller, and not always an alternative) and for vacation flights for people living south of Billund, it also competes with HAM.

I fly regular to BLL. If I fly SIN-FRA-BLL, the cost of FRA-BLL on LH is almost the same as SIN-FRA on SQ if you have the same flexibility in fare. If I fly KL AMS-BLL, the totally inflexible lowest fare is around 350-400 Euro. In my experience, the flight is always full at the times I fly. Hopefully the prices go down a bit flying in and out of BLL.

And on a side note, BLL used to be 1 of only a few 4-star rated airports in Europe (there are no 5-star airports in Europe). I don't know what the latest rating is.
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RE: Ryanair Announces Its 48th Base - Billund

Wed Dec 07, 2011 11:38 am

Quoting joost (Reply 5):
It's the primary airport for Jutland

I've actually been to Billund. I was in Legoland many years ago.

Since Ryanair don't fly to Copenhagen directly they will probably try and let customers assume Billund is near Copenhagen. The way Hamn equals Frankfurt.
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RE: Ryanair Announces Its 48th Base - Billund

Wed Dec 07, 2011 1:23 pm

Quoting Babybus (Reply 7):
Since Ryanair don't fly to Copenhagen directly they will probably try and let customers assume Billund is near Copenhagen. The way Hamn equals Frankfurt.

They don't. It's simply listed as Billund, and also the press release doesn't mention Copenhagen at all. That would be extremely far-fetched. (Although Paris Vatry is far-fetched too).

A difference here is that Billund is aimed at originating (Danish) passengers, willing to go on vacation. They know where Billund is.
 
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RE: Ryanair Announces Its 48th Base - Billund

Wed Dec 07, 2011 1:34 pm

Quoting joost (Reply 8):
A difference here is that Billund is aimed at originating (Danish) passengers, willing to go on vacation. They know where Billund is.

Absolutely. It's very clear from the destinations.
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RE: Ryanair Announces Its 48th Base - Billund

Wed Dec 07, 2011 1:40 pm

Quoting joost (Reply 5):
True, but MMX is way closer to CPH than BLL. More important, MMX positions itself as an alternative for CPH. For Danish passengers for example, they offer steep discounts on the toll for the Oresund bridge.

I know, I can see both Kastrup and Malmø from my window. It was directed at the idea that Ryanair don't bill other airports as somewhere they're not. Malmø might be close, but it's not in Copenhagen. It's not even in the same country. It was simply to prove that they do have a habit of misleading destinations. That's not to mention PIK. Not only do Ryanair bill it as Glasgow but the bloody airport do too and it couldn't be further from the truth.
 
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RE: Ryanair Announces Its 48th Base - Billund

Wed Dec 07, 2011 1:49 pm

Congratulations to Billund, it was only a matter of time before they opened a base there.

On the downside is that QI, EZ and others are going to have a harder time in BLL.

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RE: Ryanair Announces Its 48th Base - Billund

Wed Dec 07, 2011 1:58 pm

Quoting Babybus (Reply 7):
Since Ryanair don't fly to Copenhagen directly they will probably try and let customers assume Billund is near Copenhagen. The way Hamn equals Frankfurt.

Not really. Billund Airport (BLL) is around 3 hours by car from Copenhagen.

However, Sturup Airport (MMX) near Malmö is only 66 km and approx 50 mins by car from the center of Copenhagen. Ryanair will have 5 routes from MMX during S12 and if you look it up they are actually not calling it Copenhagen. Not defending Ryanair here. I will probably never fly them myself.
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RE: Ryanair Announces Its 48th Base - Billund

Wed Dec 07, 2011 2:01 pm

Quoting EBGflyer (Reply 12):
Not defending Ryanair here.


Why would you be defending them if you're simplying stating the facts? As you said, FR simply says "Malmo" in its pull-down menu and on its route map.
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RE: Ryanair Announces Its 48th Base - Billund

Wed Dec 07, 2011 6:47 pm

Quoting Pe@rson (Reply 13):
Why would you be defending them if you're simplying stating the facts?

Sure it's the facts, but facts can indeed be used and chosen to support either positive or negative sides of a case. It's also a fact that Ryanair only allow a maximum of 4 disabled people on their flights, but presenting those facts is not something that really presents Ryanair in a positive way. I normally don't support the practices of Ryanair, so was just underlining that the statement was certainly not to present them in a positive way.
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RE: Ryanair Announces Its 48th Base - Billund

Wed Dec 07, 2011 7:42 pm

Quoting Pe@rson (Reply 13):
Why would you be defending them if you're simplying stating the facts? As you said, FR simply says "Malmo" in its pull-down menu and on its route map.

You're trying to pretend like they've not been well known for it in the past as well as selling Malmø as Copenhagen: http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/business/1870411.stm
 
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RE: Ryanair Announces Its 48th Base - Billund

Wed Dec 07, 2011 8:00 pm

Quoting shufflemoomin (Reply 15):

You're trying to pretend like they've not been well known for it in the past as well as selling Malmø as Copenhagen: http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/business/...1.stm

What? I have not mentioned the past. I have kept to the facts: if you check, it does not have Malmo as Copenhagen, despite what an earlier poster alluded to.
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RE: Ryanair Announces Its 48th Base - Billund

Wed Dec 07, 2011 9:33 pm

Why so overly defensive of Ryanair? Their tactics and habits are well known. Someone made a joke about it based on truth and you get bent out of shape. I didn't say you had mentioned the past, I was merely pointing out that the joke was based on history and deserved, in my opinion.
 
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RE: Ryanair Announces Its 48th Base - Billund

Wed Dec 07, 2011 9:41 pm

I haven't been defensive of Ryanair. I have simply said they don't call it Copenhagen - although if I worked for them and had the power, I wouldn't, if necessary, hesitate to call it Copenhagen.   Anyway, you are reading far too much into it, so I suggest that we revert to the purpose of this thread.

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RE: Ryanair Announces Its 48th Base - Billund

Wed Dec 07, 2011 9:48 pm

Quoting Larshjort (Reply 11):
On the downside is that QI, EZ and others are going to have a harder time in BLL.

I agree. Cimber/Sterling is in dire need of paying passengers. Added competition from one of their bases is not what they need right now. It's another nail in their coffin as far as I'm concerned. I detest QI, but it's always sad to see a "local" airline struggle.
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RE: Ryanair Announces Its 48th Base - Billund

Thu Dec 08, 2011 3:21 pm

Is this where new recruits will be based?

Quoting EBGflyer (Reply 14):
It's also a fact that Ryanair only allow a maximum of 4 disabled people on their flights

Is it not 4 unaccompanied disabled people? Therefore an unlimited amount of those who are accompanied?
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RE: Ryanair Announces Its 48th Base - Billund

Thu Dec 08, 2011 4:26 pm

Quoting aerdingus (Reply 20):
Is it not 4 unaccompanied disabled people? Therefore an unlimited amount of those who are accompanied?

No, not that I am aware off.

http://www.ryanair.com/en/news/gen-en-181005

If it's really a safety issue, I have always wondered why this is not a general rule and not just a policy of Ryanair. One could suspect Ryanair for not wanting to take on board too many disabled pax as it would disturb their tight flight operation as it would be difficult or impossible to make a turn-around in 25 minutes or less.
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