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Jetblue Announces DFW Service From BOS

Wed Dec 07, 2011 1:50 am

Service begins May 1st! 3 daily BOS-DFW.

http://boston.cbslocal.com/2011/12/0...gin-service-from-boston-to-dallas/

Congrats B6! Great move.

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RE: Jetblue Announces DFW Service From BOS

Wed Dec 07, 2011 2:20 am

How dare they invade their partner's turf, maybe the dance is over between AA and B6?
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RE: Jetblue Announces DFW Service From BOS

Wed Dec 07, 2011 2:24 am

Quoting OzarkD9S (Reply 1):
How dare they invade their partner's turf, maybe the dance is over between AA and B6?

They've been picking off their partner's Caribbean destinations one by one, so I'm not sure how close they are. I think B6 is clearly defending against NK here--whether or not AA gave them implicit or explicit approval to do so is anyone's guess.
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RE: Jetblue Announces DFW Service From BOS

Wed Dec 07, 2011 2:26 am

Fantastic...another option thats not AA...  

3x daily isnt bad at all
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RE: Jetblue Announces DFW Service From BOS

Wed Dec 07, 2011 2:36 am

Wow DFW, way to go!

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I am surprised DFW-JFK is not the first route but I imagine it's a weak market and not one they want to waste slots on for DFW-JFK since AA only flies it one daily. I wanted to argue the competition with Spirit for DFW-LGA plays a hand but...NK will be flying DFW-BOS as well.

Maybe this will stir the rumors more  
Quoting airportugal310 (Reply 3):
Fantastic...another option thats not AA...

What's wrong with Spirit?! :P You already had another option that's not AA  

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RE: Jetblue Announces DFW Service From BOS

Wed Dec 07, 2011 2:45 am

Wow, I did not see this one coming. Now I'm wondering why BOS-HOU hasn't come yet. This is obviously a reaction to NK, but NK launched LGA service also, and this route is BOS-only. Interesting they would serve one Texas city from one hub and another Texas city from another hub as well as the third Texas city with flights to both hubs.

Quoting OzarkD9S (Reply 1):
How dare they invade their partner's turf, maybe the dance is over between AA and B6?

B6 already competes with AA on every other hub route except BOS-MIA (B6 is at FLL), so I don't think that is the case. For that matter, B6 competes with all of pre-merger UA's hub flights also.

Nice to see #44, I thought it would be LGA (that should be coming soon). I'm happy to see that PVD is under review for future service as well.
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RE: Jetblue Announces DFW Service From BOS

Wed Dec 07, 2011 2:47 am

Quoting atrude777 (Reply 4):
I am surprised DFW-JFK is not the first route but I imagine it's a weak market and not one they want to waste slots on for DFW-JFK since AA only flies it one daily. I wanted to argue the competition with Spirit for DFW-LGA plays a hand but...NK will be flying DFW-BOS as well.

They've been discussing DFW-BOS for over a year. JFK isn't as high on the radar because the DFW-New York market already has three majors offering at least dailies (AA, DL, UA) and B6 wanted to go to a less crowded market. Glad to see them in DFW and hope to see them, in a few years, at DAL  

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RE: Jetblue Announces DFW Service From BOS

Wed Dec 07, 2011 2:50 am

Quoting BOStonsox (Reply 5):
I thought it would be LGA (that should be coming soon).

B6 already serves LGA
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RE: Jetblue Announces DFW Service From BOS

Wed Dec 07, 2011 2:51 am

Am I the only one who thinks B6 will slowly connect DFW to their 'hubs?' SFO (or OAK), JFK, MCO, FLL?
Note: I doubt LGB/LAX due to VX already serving DFW. But perhaps far in the future?

Quoting OzarkD9S (Reply 1):
How dare they invade their partner's turf, maybe the dance is over between AA and B6?

That was my first thought. What happened to AA and B6 playing nice?

Quoting MaverickM11 (Reply 2):
think B6 is clearly defending against NK here--whether or not AA gave them implicit or explicit approval to do so is anyone's guess.

I suspec that is the case.

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RE: Jetblue Announces DFW Service From BOS

Wed Dec 07, 2011 2:55 am

The vultures are circling...wonder if someone like Volaris is next   
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RE: Jetblue Announces DFW Service From BOS

Wed Dec 07, 2011 3:04 am

Quoting atrude777 (Reply 4):
What's wrong with Spirit?! :P You already had another option that's not AA

haha...would you accept "six one way, half a dozen the other" as an acceptable answer?

I think the last time I went to DFW, I flew CO through EWR...that was cheapest!
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RE: Jetblue Announces DFW Service From BOS

Wed Dec 07, 2011 3:11 am

Quoting planeguy727 (Reply 7):
B6 already serves LGA

Not from BOS though. Not yet, anyway.
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RE: Jetblue Announces DFW Service From BOS

Wed Dec 07, 2011 3:14 am

I thought that B6 already served DFW? Maybe it was from JFK or something.
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RE: Jetblue Announces DFW Service From BOS

Wed Dec 07, 2011 3:24 am

this is AWESOME! Makes me so happy to see new carriers coming into DFW and competing against AA. Best of luck to B6! These flights should do well and offer better schedules as an alternative to NK. Woof.
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RE: Jetblue Announces DFW Service From BOS

Wed Dec 07, 2011 3:43 am

Great news for DFW... it certainly seems like some parties are smelling AA blood and trying to nip in while AA may not be so readily able to defend DFW as they have in the past. First NK with several extra destinations, now B6 finally starts DFW service. Will VX expand?
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RE: Jetblue Announces DFW Service From BOS

Wed Dec 07, 2011 3:43 am

It's about time B6!!!! I was wondering what was taking them so long to serve the metroplex!
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RE: Jetblue Announces DFW Service From BOS

Wed Dec 07, 2011 3:53 am

As texan (who is from New Zealand) rightly noted, DFW-BOS has been kicked around by B6 for years. The real interesting part comes in 2014, when B6 tries to start BOS/JFK/MCO-DAL.
 
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RE: Jetblue Announces DFW Service From BOS

Wed Dec 07, 2011 5:13 am

This just made my day. Now I don't have to change terminals when I fly to PVC. Welcome Jet Blue. DAL is gate limited regardless of the Wright Amendment expiration in 2014. I sought if B6 will be coming to DAL.
 
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RE: Jetblue Announces DFW Service From BOS

Wed Dec 07, 2011 6:37 am

Quoting gdg9 (Reply 14):
First NK with several extra destinations, now B6 finally starts DFW service. Will VX expand?

These services were being talked about long before AA filed for bankruptcy, and I dare say would have been announced either way.

NK's expansion at DFW is driven by two factors:
-WIN buying FL and removing it from the market;
-The large population West of DFW that likes low fares but isn't convinced to drive to DAL to fly WN. That market was largely untapped at DFW (FL flight to ATL excepted).

As for B6, I think it was just time. DFW was one of the largest, if not the largest untapped market left, it was only a matter of time before they came in.
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RE: Jetblue Announces DFW Service From BOS

Wed Dec 07, 2011 7:06 am

Quoting lightsaber (Reply 8):
Am I the only one who thinks B6 will slowly connect DFW to their 'hubs?' SFO (or OAK), JFK, MCO, FLL?
Note: I doubt LGB/LAX due to VX already serving DFW. But perhaps far in the future?

VX already doing it would be precisely why we would connect LGB and SFO to DFW. If for no other reason to lower the yield that VX gets on the route(s)
 
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RE: Jetblue Announces DFW Service From BOS

Wed Dec 07, 2011 7:30 am

I wonder if they will be hiring actual employees, or contracting it out.
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RE: Jetblue Announces DFW Service From BOS

Wed Dec 07, 2011 7:31 am

Quoting legend500 (Reply 16):
As texan (who is from New Zealand)

From?!? Come now! I haven't abandoned my Texas roots  

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RE: Jetblue Announces DFW Service From BOS

Wed Dec 07, 2011 7:33 am

Quoting usairways787 (Reply 20):
I wonder if they will be hiring actual employees, or contracting it out.

What makes you wonder that? I wouldn't be surprised if some deal between AA and B6 are in the works, but I don't think they would (or even could) do that.
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RE: Jetblue Announces DFW Service From BOS

Wed Dec 07, 2011 1:50 pm

Quoting blueflyer (Reply 18):
These services were being talked about long before AA filed for bankruptcy, and I dare say would have been announced either way.

Perhaps so.Either way, good to see new service at DFW!
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RE: Jetblue Announces DFW Service From BOS

Wed Dec 07, 2011 1:57 pm

If there was ever proof that a merger is happening this is it!   

On a serious note great news for DFW I'm a huge B6 fan.
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RE: Jetblue Announces DFW Service From BOS

Wed Dec 07, 2011 2:13 pm

I was kind of surprised at this one, do you need to go after NK who is running 1 flight on the route which is timed as a red-eye?? I thought LGA would have been first.
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RE: Jetblue Announces DFW Service From BOS

Wed Dec 07, 2011 2:18 pm

Quoting atrude777 (Reply 4):

AA flys JFK DFW like 3 times a day
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RE: Jetblue Announces DFW Service From BOS

Wed Dec 07, 2011 2:18 pm

This was definitely something I did not expect, especially given B6's overwhelming concentration on Caribbean flying. That being said, this makes perfect sense -- B6 has really established a name for itself in BOS, while AA has continued to retrench.

Also, the schedule is fantastic for business travelers in both cities. Not to mention that Texas has a below-average unemployment rate, while the greater Boston area has faired better than most other cities as well. Great move!

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RE: Jetblue Announces DFW Service From BOS

Wed Dec 07, 2011 2:22 pm

Gonna be an ugly bloodbath . . . like BWI-BOS, only with more fuel being wasted on a longer flight.

100% agree that this market was needed for B6, but it will be a $$ loser for a while
 
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RE: Jetblue Announces DFW Service From BOS

Wed Dec 07, 2011 2:48 pm

Quoting nkops (Reply 25):
I was kind of surprised at this one, do you need to go after NK who is running 1 flight on the route which is timed as a red-eye?? I thought LGA would have been first.

LGA is clearly the preferred airport, so with an LCC in LGA I'm not sure B6 would have a chance at JFK. B6 hasn't been very successful with JFKHOU, so I imagine that factors into the decision as well.
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RE: Jetblue Announces DFW Service From BOS

Wed Dec 07, 2011 2:58 pm

Quoting OzarkD9S (Reply 1):
How dare they invade their partner's turf, maybe the dance is over between AA and B6?

I was laughed at just a few months ago when I suggested that B6 would be taking over more of AA's flying from BOS and that it was just a matter of time until AA is reduced to just 2-3 daily flights to each of its hubs. This is only the first step towards reducing AA's presence in BOS even more and I still stand by my statement.
 
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RE: Jetblue Announces DFW Service From BOS

Wed Dec 07, 2011 3:02 pm

Quoting BOStonsox (Reply 11):
Not from BOS though. Not yet, anyway

hopefully soon i think it would be great for them
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RE: Jetblue Announces DFW Service From BOS

Wed Dec 07, 2011 3:02 pm

Quoting Emirates202 (Reply 26):
AA flies DFW-JFK once daily as does DL.... On the other hand, AA serves LGA from DFW with 15 daily flights.

Edited to add that I REALLY hope we connect LGB to DFW. Heeeeehaaaaaw!

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RE: Jetblue Announces DFW Service From BOS

Wed Dec 07, 2011 3:03 pm

Quoting Emirates202 (Reply 26):

AA flys JFK DFW like 3 times a day

Show me...

My Source..

AA.com

Show AA operating one flight DFW-JFK
Flight 400
Dprt 10:40am
Arrive: 2:59pm
Arcft: 737-800

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RE: Jetblue Announces DFW Service From BOS

Wed Dec 07, 2011 3:04 pm

I see these will be on E190s... anyone have an idea on schedules yet for these flights?
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RE: Jetblue Announces DFW Service From BOS

Wed Dec 07, 2011 3:10 pm

Glad to see B6 at DFW!

I dont see what the fuss is. I see this as B6 and AA getting closer, not at war with each other. There is room in the market for two carriers on this route. I dont count NK because few will take them seriously with that god awful schedule.
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RE: Jetblue Announces DFW Service From BOS

Wed Dec 07, 2011 3:14 pm

This was just a totally necessary ad that jetblue needed to make its customers happy they are slowly working on dominating BOS they need to serve all the big markets
 
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RE: Jetblue Announces DFW Service From BOS

Wed Dec 07, 2011 3:17 pm

Quoting gdg9 (Reply 34):
I see these will be on E190s... anyone have an idea on schedules yet for these flights?

Boston (BOS) to Dallas/Fort Worth (DFW):
7:30 a.m. - 10:45 a.m.
1:50 p.m. - 5:05 p.m.
6:50 p.m. - 10:05 p.m.

Dallas/Fort Worth (DFW) to Boston (BOS):
7:00 a.m. - 11:45 a.m.
11:30 a.m. - 4:15 p.m.
5:45 p.m. - 10:30 p.m.
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RE: Jetblue Announces DFW Service From BOS

Wed Dec 07, 2011 3:24 pm

thanks jetMARC! Very helpful!
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RE: Jetblue Announces DFW Service From BOS

Wed Dec 07, 2011 3:26 pm

Quoting MaverickM11 (Reply 2):
whether or not AA gave them implicit or explicit approval to do so is anyone's guess.

Pretty sure that would be in violation of the Sherman Antitrust Act....
 
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RE: Jetblue Announces DFW Service From BOS

Wed Dec 07, 2011 3:27 pm

Quoting atrude777 (Reply 33):
Show AA operating one flight DFW-JFK
Flight 400
Dprt 10:40am
Arrive: 2:59pm
Arcft: 737-800

That's actually horrible timing to connect to the evening European bank out of JFK. I guess AA really prefers to send people via LHR - which is much worse since it involves a terminal change at that mess.
 
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RE: Jetblue Announces DFW Service From BOS

Wed Dec 07, 2011 3:34 pm

Quoting lightsaber (Reply 8):
Am I the only one who thinks B6 will slowly connect DFW to their 'hubs?' SFO (or OAK), JFK, MCO, FLL?

I heard this is only BOS-DFW with no connecting the dots planned. They are focusing on business travel here.
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RE: Jetblue Announces DFW Service From BOS

Wed Dec 07, 2011 3:43 pm

Just curious, what was B6 last new destination in the states and when?
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RE: Jetblue Announces DFW Service From BOS

Wed Dec 07, 2011 3:44 pm

Great News! I am looking forward to B6 adding some flights to DFW from upstate NY (BUF, SYR, ALB and ROC).
 
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RE: Jetblue Announces DFW Service From BOS

Wed Dec 07, 2011 3:48 pm

Quoting 727LOVER (Reply 43):

Off the top of my head, I want to say BDL last year.
 
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RE: Jetblue Announces DFW Service From BOS

Wed Dec 07, 2011 3:50 pm

Quoting jetbluefan1 (Reply 27):
Also, the schedule is fantastic for business travelers in both cities. Not to mention that Texas has a below-average unemployment rate

Texas? Just barely but 8.4% is nothing to be proud of, especially when so much of your unemployed work force is made up of illegal aliens who do not factor into the unemployment figures. So the real number is quite a bit higher. I think you've been listening to Rick Perry a bit too much  

Nevertheless I think this will be huge for B6. Only AA flies non-stop from Boston to Dallas. The BOS-DFW fares are ridiculously high. Just last month I paid over $1000 for a discounted Y ticket bought weeks in advance.
 
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RE: Jetblue Announces DFW Service From BOS

Wed Dec 07, 2011 3:55 pm

Quoting crosswinds21 (Reply 42):
ZRH: 6:00PM
BCN: 5:30PM
BRU: 6:10PM
CDG: 5:05PM
LHR: 6:10PM
MXP: 5:55PM
YHZ: 6:40PM
HEL: 5:45PM

Wow I didn't know an average 3 hour layover is considered "well-timed", especially for a connection that doesn't involve immigration, re-clearing security lines, or changing terminals. For an airline that's all about frequency (15x to LGA), this flight gives exactly zero choice.

And they don't even fly to your home country.
 
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RE: Jetblue Announces DFW Service From BOS

Wed Dec 07, 2011 3:58 pm

Quoting SATexan (Reply 43):
Great News! I am looking forward to B6 adding some flights to DFW from upstate NY (BUF, SYR, ALB and ROC).

Wouldn't those be long and thin routes? How about ROC-BOS to permit ROC-BOS-DFW?
 
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RE: Jetblue Announces DFW Service From BOS

Wed Dec 07, 2011 4:03 pm

Quoting icebird757 (Reply 41):
I heard this is only BOS-DFW with no connecting the dots planned. They are focusing on business travel here.
Quoting airbazar (Reply 45):
Just last month I paid over $1000 for a discounted Y ticket bought weeks in advance.

This new route confuses me even more. Does B6 want to be AA's friend or enemy ? Taking away one of AA's few golden goose....
 
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RE: Jetblue Announces DFW Service From BOS

Wed Dec 07, 2011 4:17 pm

Quoting mogandoCI (Reply 48):
This new route confuses me even more. Does B6 want to be AA's friend or enemy ? Taking away one of AA's few golden goose....

Maybe they are going to focus on partnering with B6 even more so to bring down costs during this bankruptcy... here are some JFK routes(from the OAG thread) I'm sure we'll interline/codeshare with from JFK, assuming we don't already do so...

*AA JFK-PLS APR 1.0>0.1 MAY 1.0>0 JUN 1.0>0 JUL 1.0>0 AUG 1.0>0
*AA JFK-PUJ APR 1.0>0.1 MAY 1.0>0 JUN 1.0>0 AUG 1.0>0.6
*AA JFK-SJO APR 1.0>0.0 MAY 1.0>0 JUN 1.0>0 JUL 1.0>0 AUG 1.0>0
*AA JFK-SXM APR 0.5>0.1 MAY 0.4>0 JUN 0.4>0 JUL 0.4>0 AUG 0.4>0

Quoting mogandoCI (Reply 48):
Taking away one of AA's few golden goose....

Don't really think we're taking away any geese as they still have 8 flights a day DFW-BOS, mostly with B757s...

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