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SFO-Paris In 1980s

Fri Dec 09, 2011 3:53 am

What would have been the most likely options for a person flying from San Francisco to Paris around 1985? Pan Am/TWA to NYC/DC and then onto Paris? Or what?
 
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RE: SFO-Paris In 1980s

Fri Dec 09, 2011 4:21 am

TWA via BOS/JFK/IAD were all options in '85. UTA and UA hadn't begun their SFO-CDG nonstops until later in the 80s (perhaps early 90s for UA), I believe.

The morning flight to JFK from SFO was still a 747 when I flew it in September 1985.

BA was also an option via LHR, plus AF via LAX.
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RE: SFO-Paris In 1980s

Fri Dec 09, 2011 4:24 am

Quoting washingtonian (Thread starter):
What would have been the most likely options for a person flying from San Francisco to Paris around 1985? Pan Am/TWA to NYC/DC and then onto Paris? Or what?

It would have been more convenient and a few hundred miles shorter to connect at LHR, FRA or LAX than on the east coast. BA and Pan Am both had nonstops SFO-LHR, LH SFO-FRA, and AF LAX-CDG.
 
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RE: SFO-Paris In 1980s

Fri Dec 09, 2011 5:40 am

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RE: SFO-Paris In 1980s

Fri Dec 09, 2011 6:12 pm

I am a first generation French immigrant, and my big trip was CDG - JFK - SFO, on November 22, 1980. The first leg was on a 741, and the transcon on a 1011. I believe the whole flight was TWA801. I still recall the overly sweet taste of the lemonade at the TWA terminal at JFK, while watching planes take off and land in the golden afternoon light. I also remember the movie was "Starting Over" on one of the flights.
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RE: SFO-Paris In 1980s

Sat Dec 10, 2011 9:40 am

How about SFO-YYZ-CDG (or ORY) ?

I would imagine that a Montreal connection would have been tough since YMX handled overseas flights and YUL handled transborder flights in those days.
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RE: SFO-Paris In 1980s

Sat Dec 10, 2011 10:55 pm

Quoting AussieItaliano (Reply 5):
I would imagine that a Montreal connection would have been tough since YMX handled overseas flights and YUL handled transborder flights in those days.

There was also no nonstop service SFO-YUL during the 1980s.
 
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RE: SFO-Paris In 1980s

Sun Dec 11, 2011 12:41 am

I did SFO-LHR-CDG on BA, which was an awful airline in 1984. I remember that weird food and those nasty old FAs. I believe they learned a thing or two since.
 
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RE: SFO-Paris In 1980s

Sun Dec 11, 2011 12:44 am

For a very short time...I think one summer...Rich International had a charter series from OAK through Duluth MN and on to ORY using a DC-8.

Later Corsair flew ORY-OAK-PPT using a 747SP.
 
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RE: SFO-Paris In 1980s

Sun Dec 11, 2011 1:02 am

Quoting AussieItaliano (Reply 5):
I would imagine that a Montreal connection would have been tough since YMX handled overseas flights and YUL handled transborder flights in those days.

But in the 60's, LH flew to San Francisco via Montreal, amazingly enough.

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RE: SFO-Paris In 1980s

Sun Dec 11, 2011 3:35 pm

How about this one? When Rock Hudson was dying of AIDS, he chartered an Air France 747 to fly him and his medical team from Paris back to LA. Was this common at the time--a celebrity chartering a commercial jet? I guess this was before the rise of Netjets, etc.
 
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RE: SFO-Paris In 1980s

Sun Dec 11, 2011 9:22 pm

Quoting AeroWesty (Reply 9):
Quoting AussieItaliano (Reply 5):
I would imagine that a Montreal connection would have been tough since YMX handled overseas flights and YUL handled transborder flights in those days.

But in the 60's, LH flew to San Francisco via Montreal, amazingly enough.

Yes, but no 5th freedom rights between SFO and YUL..