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GOL B763 Already In TUS On Delivery To DL!

Sun Dec 11, 2011 4:34 pm

That certainly happened quickly after the recent announcement of DL's $100M investment in GOL!

Boeing 767 -383 24846 309 PR-VAO Gol Linhas Aeréas ferried 09-10dec11 CNF-MAO-TUS, all wh, Varig titl on delivery to Delta Air Lines ex TF-FIC
 
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RE: GOL B763 Already In TUS On Delivery To DL!

Sun Dec 11, 2011 6:19 pm

Gol has become "allergic" to these frames. They really don't know what to do with widebody aircraft, so they want to get rid of them as fast as possible.
They have been blaming their widebody fleet for their losses for years on their quarterly results. They are mentioned like in every conference call.
 
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RE: GOL B763 Already In TUS On Delivery To DL!

Sun Dec 11, 2011 6:48 pm

Why TUS? I would think DL would want to get it to ATL so TechOps can take a look at it and get to work.

[Edited 2011-12-11 11:02:51]
 
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RE: GOL B763 Already In TUS On Delivery To DL!

Sun Dec 11, 2011 6:52 pm

Quoting LV (Reply 2):
Why TUS? I would think DL would want to get it to ATL so TechOps can take a look at it and get the work.

Maybe TUS is doing the painting, then to ATL TOC for the rest of the work?
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RE: GOL B763 Already In TUS On Delivery To DL!

Sun Dec 11, 2011 7:05 pm

How does this B767-383ER differ from DLs other B767-332ERs? Is it the location of the galleys, lavatories and other things? Just wondering if this will confuse FAs who forget which aircraft they are flying in?
 
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RE: GOL B763 Already In TUS On Delivery To DL!

Sun Dec 11, 2011 7:07 pm

Quoting LV (Reply 2):
Why TUS?

Fair chance it is heading to the desert for a time. Flights to Marana from overseas often go via TUS, presumably for customs purposes.
 
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RE: GOL B763 Already In TUS On Delivery To DL!

Sun Dec 11, 2011 7:34 pm

There is no guarantee that DL will actually use this 763ER in their operations. They are taking over the lease, but if market and fuel conditions do not warrant it, they may simply let it sit - may be more cost-efficient.
 
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RE: GOL B763 Already In TUS On Delivery To DL!

Sun Dec 11, 2011 7:36 pm

My initial guess was that Delta would want the two 767s for parts. For instance, if Delta placed the 763 into service, it would be the second-oldest in their -ER fleet. Certainly looks like it's headed for the desert when it's stopping in TUS first, so we'll see.
 
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RE: GOL B763 Already In TUS On Delivery To DL!

Sun Dec 11, 2011 8:35 pm

Considering that Delta is taking over the lease, it is unlikely this aircraft would be parted out. You have to own an aircraft to break it up into parts. As for when this aircraft would go into revenue service, it would have to be painted first and considering the slack in their current fleet, I would assume that interior mods would be completed beforehand as well. So, my opinion from the sidelines is that this aircraft is headed for temporary storage until DL can set a schedule for the necessary maintance for this frame and when they would want it in revenue service. There is one unlikely alternative as well, they could keep it as a lone oddball and use it exclusively for charters.
 
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RE: GOL B763 Already In TUS On Delivery To DL!

Sun Dec 11, 2011 8:45 pm

Quoting audidudi (Reply 4):
How does this B767-383ER differ from DLs other B767-332ERs? Is it the location of the galleys, lavatories and other things? Just wondering if this will confuse FAs who forget which aircraft they are flying in?

The customer code tells us that this is a former SAS aircraft. SK is infamous for having very special and unique galleys in their a/c. That said, DL's 767 fleet is made up of a wide variety of different sourced a/c, so I'm sure they'll cope.


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RE: GOL B763 Already In TUS On Delivery To DL!

Sun Dec 11, 2011 8:47 pm

Quoting audidudi (Reply 4):

Wouldn't really matter if its different. The interior will be completely gutted and brought up to DL spec before it enters revenue service. The 76ER mod line is in full swing and one of the tasks is standardization of all galleys so that they are the exact same on each ship.
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RE: GOL B763 Already In TUS On Delivery To DL!

Sun Dec 11, 2011 8:49 pm

Quoting LAXtoATL (Reply 8):

DL still has a 763ER, N173DN, parked in VCV after they took it out of storage to have it painted last February, only to return it to VCV where it has remained since! Very odd!
 
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RE: GOL B763 Already In TUS On Delivery To DL!

Sun Dec 11, 2011 9:08 pm

It is strange, you would think 173 that has been in storage since 08 would be pulled out if they needed the lift, and strange the ex-GOL 767 is going to TUS. If it was going into flyable storage then I would think it would go up the road to MZJ. Unless it has to clear US customs in TUS before it could ferry to MZJ. Or something like that.
 
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RE: GOL B763 Already In TUS On Delivery To DL!

Sun Dec 11, 2011 10:42 pm

I know about the big disaster the re-start attempt for the VARIG brand. And I have seen the very shiny new 737's with VARIG livery, but I am entirely confused what the purpose of using the RG brand is. Unless they have to use it or loose it from a legal standpoint. Nonetheless, nothing feels better than seeing a big dark blue VARIG at GRU or GIG! I'd prefer a 747, but beggars can't be choosers!
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RE: GOL B763 Already In TUS On Delivery To DL!

Sun Dec 11, 2011 10:51 pm

Since GOL is leasing this aircraft to Delta, is it possible that it will retain its Brazillian registration number (PR-VAO)? DL once had two 732s with Irish regs (EI-BOM and EI-BON).

[Edited 2011-12-11 14:52:32]
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RE: GOL B763 Already In TUS On Delivery To DL!

Sun Dec 11, 2011 10:55 pm

I remember the WAL EI-BOM and BON   The Bom Bon twins.
 
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RE: GOL B763 Already In TUS On Delivery To DL!

Sun Dec 11, 2011 11:02 pm

For the ship number, I presume it will be ship 1202, since PR-VAO is P&W-powered. This continues the range of regs for the P&W-powered 763ERs (N1200K and N1201P, ships 1200 and 1201, were DL's last two P&W-powered 763ERs before DL switched to GE).
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RE: GOL B763 Already In TUS On Delivery To DL!

Sun Dec 11, 2011 11:22 pm

Quoting LAXtoATL (Reply 8):
Considering that Delta is taking over the lease, it is unlikely this aircraft would be parted out. You have to own an aircraft to break it up into parts.

True, but we'll see if they make a deal on it. There has to be something more than this since it would seem beyond unlikely that the other aircraft, the 762, would fly for Delta. So you figure something has to give with that lease.
 
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RE: GOL B763 Already In TUS On Delivery To DL!

Mon Dec 12, 2011 12:21 am

Quoting panamair (Reply 6):
There is no guarantee that DL will actually use this 763ER in their operations. They are taking over the lease, but if market and fuel conditions do not warrant it, they may simply let it sit - may be more cost-efficient.

Good point. But DL can negotiate a better rate on a longer lease agreement. For the lessor, now the risk become smaller (no country risk), and if they can secure this lease for longer, good for both.
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