AFa340-300E
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Qantas @ BCN

Sat Oct 07, 2000 8:45 pm

Hello,

Qantas operates some flights in summer on BCN.

Is that regular?
When did they start them?
Where does the aircraft stops in Europe on the SIN-BCN route?

Any information welcome...


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One of the Boeing 747-400s seen at BCN

Thank you,

Best regards,
Alain Mengus
 
Night Hawk
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RE: Qantas @ BCN

Sat Oct 07, 2000 10:09 pm

Hi

For the benefits of us here in Oz, what airport is BCN???

Regards

Greg
 
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RE: Qantas @ BCN

Sat Oct 07, 2000 10:12 pm

It's Barcelona. It stops in London Heathrow. I hope I'm a little help to you.

Cheers,
Alvin
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aduum
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RE: Qantas @ BCN

Sun Oct 08, 2000 2:21 am

Yes, it does stop in Barcelona.

check it on www.qantas.com.au
 
Trvlr
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RE: Qantas @ BCN

Sun Oct 08, 2000 2:24 am

I think those are weekly charters. If you do a search for pictures of the QF 747 at BCN, the captions say that the flight is a saturday-only BA related charter for cruise ship passengers.

Aaron G.
 
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Why Not FRA

Sun Oct 08, 2000 2:27 am

Hello,

I can't finf the information on qantas.com.au.

IIRC someone mentionned the 747-400 operating on FRA remains there the whole day long (not sure).
So why not not using FRA has stop-over instead?
In order to keep their LHR slots?

Thank you,

Best regards,
Alain Mengus
 
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FRA QF 744

Sun Oct 08, 2000 2:31 am

Does nobody else think that the a/c that stops at FRA would be better used going on to Manchester.
When you hear the noise of the Tartan Army Boys, we'll be coming down the road!
 
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GKirk -> FRA-MAN

Sun Oct 08, 2000 3:01 am

Hello,

That's not the first time I hear about this idea. But maybe there's a issue with FRA slots.

Also, if Qantas can't get any fifth freedom right, maybe the economics of such a short 747-400 flight don't justify to do it.

Anyone heard anything please?

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Alain Mengus
 
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RE: Qantas @ BCN

Sun Oct 08, 2000 3:22 am

British Airways carry all Qantas' connecting passengers,
MAN-LHR, MAN-CDG, MAN-FRA and MAN-FCO. It's much cheaper to use BA scheduled flights than flying a B747-400 half-empty on a 1 hour flight! Qantas' passenger numbers from MAN have fallen since direct flights were withdrawn, to the benefit of Singapore, Malaysian, Cathay Pacific and Emirates - but while ever BA is involved with Qantas I'm confident there will be no direct service from Manchester...The first change to happen when BA took a stake in Qantas was the end of Manchester flights.

Qantas' charter flights from LHR take in Barcelona every Saturday.
On Wednesdays and Fridays various cities are served on a rotating basis; Barcelona, Istanbu, Venice, Stockholm, Naples, hessalonika, Izmir, Athens and Larnaca.
There are also flights to Istanbul or Barcelona on selected Mondays, Tuesdays, Thursdays, Fridays and Sundays.

All flights are chartered and operated on behalf of Royal Carribbean cruises, whose passengers will pay the premium for Qantas services.

The flights probably don't make vast sums of money, but this will be preferable to a full day's parking at Heathrow, which is very expensive, and it also maximises aircraft and crew utilisation.

Regards
JET SETTER
 
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RE: Qantas @ BCN/Jet Setter

Sun Oct 08, 2000 8:37 am

FYI the charters to BCN, IST etc are conducted for P&O/Princess Cruises

Cheers!

 
 
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RE: Qantas @ BCN

Sun Oct 08, 2000 8:53 am

Thanks for the correction  
 
Billy
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RE: Qantas @ BCN

Sun Oct 08, 2000 6:43 pm

Whilst the BA/QF relationship will continue to work against the QF 747 at FRA operating to MAN, the FRA slot situation also is almost impossible to work around. I think that you would find that the short rotation between FRA and MAN would require an extra set of crews.

I understand that Cathay Pacific do a similar thing with their 747 at LHR. I heard that it was doing Venice (?) for a cruise company during the summer. Anyone know more?
 
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FRA-MAn Leg Discontinuation

Sun Oct 08, 2000 7:51 pm

Hello,

When did they discontinue the FRA-MAN leg please?

Thank you,

Best regards,
Alain Mengus
 
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RE: Qantas @ BCN

Sun Oct 08, 2000 7:56 pm

The last few years that QF flew into MAN it was an extension of the LHR QF1/2 service. Before that MAN was an also an extension at one time of QF's AMS service (in the late 80's - many years ago now!!) 

Cheers!

Graham 
 
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RE: Qantas @ BCN

Sun Oct 08, 2000 9:23 pm

I think it's great that the QF charters and preferred over the European ones.

Just goes to show that QF, despite recent mishaps, has an excellent reputation around the aviation work.

Long live the flying Kanga.

mb
 
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RE: Qantas @ BCN

Sun Oct 08, 2000 9:24 pm

I think it's great that the QF charters are preferred over the European ones.

Just goes to show that QF, despite recent mishaps, has an excellent reputation around the aviation world.

Long live the flying Kanga.

mb
 
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RE: Qantas @ BCN

Mon Oct 09, 2000 3:51 am

After moving the intermediate points around (ATH, AMS, FRA), QF settled for a bit of Heathrow slot protection by operating LHR-MAN-LHR with the 747-400 for a couple of years. The route was terminated completely in the early nineties. BA then ran a 737 from MAN to LHR to connect directly with the 747 (into T3 or T4, whichever QF operated into then). Needless to say this pointless execise did not last more than 6 months.

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