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Ryanair + ReCAPTCHA = Al-Qaida

Mon Jan 02, 2012 7:22 am

About 6 weeks ago Ryanair introduced the reCAPTCHA system on their web page to stop robots from scraping their web page. Some days a client who was trying to book a ticket was asked to type "Al-Qaida" to continue with the booking process.

http://vlt.se/nyheter/vasteras/1.149...h-hur-kul-var-det-har-pa-en-skala-
 
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RE: Ryanair + ReCAPTCHA = Al-Qaida

Mon Jan 02, 2012 11:50 am

Lol! Good that they have the robot though, more airlines should do that, those websites are a rippoff. More then 25 euro more expensive then booking direct with an airline.
 
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RE: Ryanair + ReCAPTCHA = Al-Qaida

Mon Jan 02, 2012 12:52 pm

First time I have heard of the captcha thingy being a recognisable word/name.

Every time I encounter one it's random numbers and letters, twisted and contorted in a way which makes reading it hard.
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RE: Ryanair + ReCAPTCHA = Al-Qaida

Mon Jan 02, 2012 1:28 pm

FR should try to get some mind-altering things in there, where customers have to type the likes of 'Ryanair cheapest' and 'Ryanair low fares' and 'good punctuality Ryanair' or whatever. There must be hundreds of possibilities. Just need to intersperse with the random stuff so a computer can't determine when they will appear.    

  
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RE: Ryanair + ReCAPTCHA = Al-Qaida

Mon Jan 02, 2012 2:54 pm

I wonder if Michael O'Leary actually wanted this to happen. It does fit with his "Any publicity is good publicity" philosophy.
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RE: Ryanair + ReCAPTCHA = Al-Qaida

Mon Jan 02, 2012 3:18 pm

that doesn't look like a normal re-captcha.

if you google 'inglip', you'll see some people have created a mythology around the hidden messages they find in re-captcha. Sort of amusing.
 
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RE: Ryanair + ReCAPTCHA = Al-Qaida

Mon Jan 02, 2012 3:26 pm

I am quite sure something could be put into, or is already into the algorithm that creates the ReCAPTCHA codes that prevents the use of offensive words or phrases. Perhaps some tweaking is needed to make sure the names of terror groups like al-Queda won't show up. Of course, the programmers may have put in an 'Easter egg' like item like this to have some private fun.
 
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RE: Ryanair + ReCAPTCHA = Al-Qaida

Mon Jan 02, 2012 4:35 pm

Quoting kl911 (Reply 1):
Good that they have the robot though, more airlines should do that, those websites are a rippoff. More then 25 euro more expensive then booking direct with an airline.

Funny, well kinda sad actually what sort of bs potential FR customer has to go through if he dares to spend his money with them. It seems like someone is really afraid of their propaganda about being "cheapest" being actually subject to scrutiny and direct comparison by those who use software like Azuon.
 
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RE: Ryanair + ReCAPTCHA = Al-Qaida

Mon Jan 02, 2012 5:17 pm

Quoting Pe@rson (Reply 3):
FR should try to get some mind-altering things in there, where customers have to type the likes of 'Ryanair cheapest' and 'Ryanair low fares' and 'good punctuality Ryanair' or whatever. There must be hundreds of possibilities. Just need to intersperse with the random stuff so a computer can't determine when they will appear.


Brilliant idea.   
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RE: Ryanair + ReCAPTCHA = Al-Qaida

Mon Jan 02, 2012 5:26 pm

Quoting ryan h (Reply 2):


First time I have heard of the captcha thingy being a recognisable word/name.

ReCaptcha is using human input to recognize printed text in cases computer has problems reading the text. One of 2 words to be decoded is actually a piece of a book being OCRed - and is likely to be a meaningful word..
Once in a while one may see some strange things - like formulas, text in Greek (what should I do if I have no Greek keyboard layout?) and so on.
 
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RE: Ryanair + ReCAPTCHA = Al-Qaida

Tue Jan 03, 2012 4:02 am

Quoting kalvado (Reply 9):
ReCaptcha is using human input to recognize printed text in cases computer has problems reading the text. One of 2 words to be decoded is actually a piece of a book being OCRed - and is likely to be a meaningful word..
Once in a while one may see some strange things - like formulas, text in Greek (what should I do if I have no Greek keyboard layout?) and so on.

Yup, exactly. People who enter CAPTCHAs frequently can easily recognize which text is the "generated" content, and which is the actual image of some actual text from some source. In this case "Al-Quaida/" is quite obvious as the scanned actual text.

Part of the business model of ReCAPTCHA is to have users submit answers to challenging (but real) scan/OCR translation. Fragmented and piecemeal, millions of user contributions or these distinct words helps contribute to increased quality of legacy documents that have been digitized.

But... Pro-Tip: You don't need to type in the "actual text from some source" in the response to the CAPTCHA challenge, only the text from the "generated text". This halves the time it takes to answer most CAPTCHAs. 
 
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RE: Ryanair + ReCAPTCHA = Al-Qaida

Tue Jan 03, 2012 3:40 pm

Quoting L410Turbolet (Reply 7):
Funny, well kinda sad actually what sort of bs potential FR customer has to go through if he dares to spend his money with them. It seems like someone is really afraid of their propaganda about being "cheapest" being actually subject to scrutiny and direct comparison by those who use software like Azuon.

Huh? Why? It makes it cheaper for the customer to book direct with the airline, instead of those fake websites that do nothing more then the airline does, but charge you 25 euro extra for it.

And indeed, why would i want to compare Ryanair prices to others? 1st, they are often the only one on the route, and 2nd, 99% of the time they are the cheapest, also when compared to larger airports in the area.
 
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RE: Ryanair + ReCAPTCHA = Al-Qaida

Tue Jan 03, 2012 4:27 pm

Anyone interested in the re-captcha process should look at this video on TED. The inventor talks about massive online collaboration to digitize books and his new plan to translate Wikipedia into multiple languages for free. I found it interesting.
http://www.ted.com/talks/luis_von_ah...ve_scale_online_collaboration.html
 
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RE: Ryanair + ReCAPTCHA = Al-Qaida

Tue Jan 03, 2012 4:43 pm

It's so annoying having to put that ReCAPTCHA in every time you look for flights. A few months ago they took away the prices for flights on dates near your chosen one so it now just says "low fares available". Sometimes there aren't even flights that day, but the same things shows up. It seems like FR are tying to make find a flight even more difficult. Those scraping webites are great if you are looking for general fares. If you find them a rip off, don't buy from them! Skyscanner still seems to be able to find FR flights as of today....
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