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Future Of International Destinations From Texas

Sun Oct 08, 2000 6:07 am

Anyone have any idea what the near future holds for new international non-stops from Texas (i.e., from DFW and IAH)? Any new European or Asian destinations? Non-stops to Rio or Buenos Aires? Can the market support it? What about landing slots?

As far as North America, I'd like to see a non-stop IAH-YUL. I think DFW has two non-stops to Montreal.
 
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RE: Future Of International Destinations From Texas

Sun Oct 08, 2000 9:19 am

Actually to be honest with you, I have been hearing that DFW is trying to get EVA Airways, which already operates cargo flights into DFW, to start to operate DFW-TPE flights because of AA codeshare and because of the large Taiwanese population in Dallas.
I also heard that AA, if it hasn't already, or Aerolineas Argentinas, doubtful because of financial situation, is trying to get DFW-Buenos Aires rights.
I think Finnair might start serving DFW as a tag on to either its LAX or JFK flights, because of AA and them being in oneworld, and due to Nokia's North American HQ's being located just outside of Las Colinas.
 
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RE: Future Of International Destinations From Texas

Sun Oct 08, 2000 10:52 am

I think texas is a growing market since more companies are moving their headquarters or north american headquarters to texas, dallas has several major companies with big offices here and same with houston and austin, I think more international flights will be added because of that aswell as two major airlines that you can connect with(CO,AA) and the tourism market growth, I think texas is finally getting it's chance to prove it is not just cattle and ranches but a real market for business and tourism. I think CO and AA will keep adding more flights to international destinations, and AA and CO partners will come to texas. I have heard QF maybe coming to dallas once they take delivery of that aircraft they are about to order. the DFW board is trying to get EVA airways to come, and Finnair might come and maybe CX and Sabena started service about a month ago due to AA and the loads have been pretty good. now is the time texas is starting to have it's brakethrough so from here on out, texas will go global.
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RE: Future Of International Destinations From Texas

Mon Oct 09, 2000 3:58 am

PIA has the traffic rights to Houston and Dallas and theres a large Pakistani community in Texas also, so im sure theyll fly to one of the two in the future, 
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RE: Future Of International Destinations From Texas

Mon Oct 09, 2000 4:14 am

While it's nice to have EVA Airways go to DFW from TPE, but do the 747-400's that EVA owns have the range to fly DFW-TPE non-stop year-round?
 
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RE: Future Of International Destinations From Texas

Mon Oct 09, 2000 6:54 am

No non-stop flights are operated between DFW and YUL.
 
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RE: Future Of International Destinations From Texas

Mon Oct 09, 2000 8:03 am

This isn't quite on topic but does anyone know why Gulf Air terminated its IAH-Bahrain service? Also, has anyone heard about Egypt Air or Alitalia starting service to IAH? I know I heard that Egypt Air was planning to start IAH-Cario soon.
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RE: Future Of International Destinations From Texas

Tue Oct 10, 2000 12:59 pm

Thanks for the updates.

BTW, B757300, there are definitely 2 daily Dallas-Montreal flights, added within the last 2 years. (I just checked.) I'm at a loss why IAH doesn't have at least one.

What about Austin? With the explosive tech growth down there, could there be any international destinations in the work? I know that Air Canada started flying Austin-Toronto this year, so I was just wondering.
 
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RE: Future Of International Destinations From Texas

Tue Oct 10, 2000 5:56 pm

Regarding new international service in AUS, city leaders are aggressively trying to get more international service, especially to Mexico City. Here's an article the Austin Business Journal from about six months ago.

ABIA's success takes off
03/27/2000

http://www.bizjournals.com/austin/stories/2000/03/27/story7.html

Notice towards the end of the article it makes reference to the fact that SAT's air traffic is based on tourism, but AUS's is based on business travel.

Right now AUS only has 1 gate designated for international travel (Gate 2), but there are other gates that can accomodate wide-body aircraft. Air Canada doesn't use Gate 2, BTW. They're down at the other end of the terminal at Gate 23. I think it was because you clear US Customs in Canada when you're returning?

And although it's not commercial service and it's not even nonstop, the airport did announce today that Eagle Global Logistics would begin twice weekly DC-10 cargo flights to Taipei. I believe the route is TPE-ANC-AUS-LAX-HNL-GUA-TPE.

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RE: Future Of International Destinations From Texas

Tue Oct 10, 2000 6:20 pm

Though I have no firm details, Qantas has mentioned it's intention to serve Dallas with non-stop flights to and from Sydney. It will use it's new long range aircraft which as we know have yet to be ordered so this is at the very least a few years away.
 
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RE: Future Of International Destinations From Texas

Wed Oct 11, 2000 1:30 am

I think the 747-400's EVA uses does have the range to go year round nonstop between DFW and TPE. If their MD11F only have to make onestop between DFW and TPE, I am sure the 747-400 could easily do it.
That is interesting about PIA having the traffic rights. What about AI, since their is a larger Indian population than Pakistani, although I think AI is no state to began new flights.
Apparently, the Indian population is so large, that their is a fair portion of Indian pax returning to India on LH DFW-FRA flights.
Also, I think Air France has DFW very high on their list of new cities, with the DL hub here and everything. I have heard that AF is planning to start DFW service in mid to late 2001. Is there any confirmation?/
 
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RE: Future Of International Destinations From Texas

Wed Oct 11, 2000 1:45 am

DFW should be in position to market itself as a "Gateway to Mexico and Latin America". Unfortunately its resident airlines are neglecting that and allowing IAH and CO build Houston into the Latin American Gateway Dallas dreams about. EVA Air has already initiated codesharing on the SJC-TPE routing. They also operate SFO-TPE, LAX-TPE Twice Daily from each. Look for new EVA service once they receive thier 777s.

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RE: Future Of International Destinations From Texas

Wed Oct 11, 2000 3:02 am

If Air India or PIA starts flights to anywhere in Texas, it'll be Houston. First of, AI doesnt hold any rights to DFW, but they do to Houston. They came so close to serving Houston about a year and a half ago that an Indian newspaper actually published an article announcing Bombay-Houston service. AI has long been interested in serving Houston, and I'm sure once privatization is finished they will come here, as everyone expects the flight to do well.

The Indian/Pakistani population of Houston is substantially larger than Dallas. Dallas, on the other hand, has more Koreans (I believe the first or second largest population of Koreans in the US), and it's no surprise that Korean flies there and does quite well.

I'd predict that by early 2002, you'll have AI serving IAH, especially with the new international terminal opening.

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From Houston

Wed Oct 11, 2000 3:08 am

BWIA plans to start Port of Spain-Houston in September 2001 with 737-800.

Air Jamaica starts service on May 1st with five times weekly A320 from Montego Bay.

World Airways begins the only service from the US to Angola next month, flying twice weekly between Houston and Luanda with MD-11, transporting oil workers on behalf on Angolan oil company Sokolair.

Houston has been mentioned as a destination for Emirates.

Continental will be expanding to several new destinations, expected to include, over the next couple of years, Madrid, Rome, Frankfurt, Santiago, Buenos Aires, and numerous smaller cities in Central America and Mexico. Expect several new cities in Mexico to be announced. And yes, even Montreal has been mentioned as a new gateway.

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RE: Future Of International Destinations From Texas

Wed Oct 11, 2000 4:32 am

I can't give much information about future connections from Texas, but this year two new destinations were added from DFW with SR/SN to BRU (op. by SN) and to ZRH (op. by AA). At least the ZRH-flight is apparently doing very well, as it was upgraded to a daily 777-flight.

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