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Destinations No Longer Flown From SEA

Sat Jan 07, 2012 7:21 pm

Hi guys,

After starting the SJC thread, I thought it would be fun to do the same for SEA. Interesting that the list seems far shorter.

Here's what I can think of.

SVO - (SU)
HKG - (I don't recall this but others have mentioned it)
CPH - (SK)
BGO - (Done a few days a week with SK DC-8s instead of CPH)
CUN - (AS)
MEX - (AM)
YXS - (QX's short lived Prince George flight)
YKA - (QX did Kamloops in the winter season for a few years recently)
ADQ - (Kodiak, one of WA's last, if not the last, Electra route until about 1972)
OMA - (Eastern did this as part of ATL and STL flights from SEA)
RDD - (QX)
ACV - (QX)
CLM - (QX - Port Angeles)
MWH - (QX - Moses Lake)
TiW - (Hughes Airwest old milk-run - Tacoma Airport)
ITO - (NW)


Anything else?
 
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RE: Destinations No Longer Flown From SEA

Sat Jan 07, 2012 7:37 pm

Quoting BoeingGuy (Thread starter):
HKG - (I don't recall this but others have mentioned it)

Correct - UA flew SEA-HKG with either a DC-10-30 or 747SP in the early-mid '80s. I remember seeing it parked at Gate N1 or N2 in June 1983.

HEL - Finnair flew this route with a DC-10-30
 
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RE: Destinations No Longer Flown From SEA

Sat Jan 07, 2012 7:40 pm

Bangkok (via NRT) - TG
Helsinki - Finnair
MMH (via RNO) - QX
Friday Harbor - Harbor Air/San Juan Airlines
Eastsound - San Juan Airlines
Oak Harbor - San Juan Airlines

That's all I can think of.
 
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RE: Destinations No Longer Flown From SEA

Sat Jan 07, 2012 7:46 pm

Was there ever direct service between SEA and CMH?
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RE: Destinations No Longer Flown From SEA

Sat Jan 07, 2012 7:47 pm

Quoting wedgetail737 (Reply 2):
Bangkok (via NRT) - TG
Helsinki - Finnair
MMH (via RNO) - QX

I was speaking of non-stop so TG and MMH don't count. I do remember the one-season RNO-MMH tag-on. I guess you know have to go through LAX or SJC.

HEL does count though. Good one.

Quoting wedgetail737 (Reply 2):
Friday Harbor - Harbor Air/San Juan Airlines
Eastsound - San Juan Airlines
Oak Harbor - San Juan Airlines

Ahhh, San Juan Airlines doesn't exist anymore? I remember they had the AS name and logo at the Friday Harbor airport. I'd like to have seen them try to get into Roche Harbor!
 
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RE: Destinations No Longer Flown From SEA

Sat Jan 07, 2012 7:48 pm

Quoting ContnlEliteCMH (Reply 3):
Was there ever direct service between SEA and CMH?

I don't think so. Not that I'm aware of. That short lived airline, Sky-whatever, flew out of BLI to CMH.
 
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RE: Destinations No Longer Flown From SEA

Sat Jan 07, 2012 7:50 pm

Oh I just remembered one more:

ICT - (TW tried this one year with an MD-80 thinking it would get Boeing traffic. It apparently bombed out.)
 
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RE: Destinations No Longer Flown From SEA

Sat Jan 07, 2012 8:49 pm

Hopefully SEA-MEX will return some time soon. Now that AM and DL are relaunching their partnership, they could pool their resources and operate MEX-SEA-MEX using an AM 73W and schedules that appeal to business and leisure travelers. If this does not materialize, perhaps we might see KE doing ICN-SEA-MEX in the future... I believe they have already expressed interest.
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RE: Destinations No Longer Flown From SEA

Sat Jan 07, 2012 9:18 pm

I know there was an airline based out of TIW that for a while (i want to say around 98-00) operated in SEATAC B concourse. THey flew to A lot of the smaller destinations with caravans and a couple other types but I can't remember the name of the airline.

East sound, CLM, and FHR are now all served by Kenmore Air Express out of BFI with Caravans and Chieftains. I know in summer of 2007 there was service to Tofino from BFI and Also Helijet used to serve Vancouver and Victoria Heliports with S76's as well as flew to Campbell River in the 1900's.

I know NW did Non Stop IND flights for a few years s well as MEM flights they are no longer happening.
 
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RE: Destinations No Longer Flown From SEA

Sat Jan 07, 2012 9:45 pm

Quoting dash8driver16 (Reply 8):
I know NW did Non Stop IND flights for a few years s well as MEM flights they are no longer happening.

Oh, MEM is gone already? I just did that flight in March. I should have remembered US to PIT, which I've also done.

So we'll add:


IND
MEM
PIT
 
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RE: Destinations No Longer Flown From SEA

Sat Jan 07, 2012 10:10 pm

US Airways had SEA-BWI service in 2001 & 2002. Southwest is bringing this back in April, but as of now, it would make the list.
 
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RE: Destinations No Longer Flown From SEA

Sun Jan 08, 2012 1:08 am

Did Inland Empire Airlines fly SEA-CDA at one time?

Western Pacific Airlines SEA-COS?

That's all I got for the moment......

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RE: Destinations No Longer Flown From SEA

Sun Jan 08, 2012 1:10 am

Quoting USAIRWAYS321 (Reply 10):
US Airways had SEA-BWI service in 2001 & 2002. Southwest is bringing this back in April, but as of now, it would make the list.

I think that's been more of a seasonal route for WN and/or FL, but maybe I'm mistaken.

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RE: Destinations No Longer Flown From SEA

Sun Jan 08, 2012 2:03 am

Quoting N174UA (Reply 1):

Correct - UA flew SEA-HKG with either a DC-10-30 or 747SP in the early-mid '80s. I remember seeing it parked at Gate N1 or N2 in June 1983.

NW also flew SEA-HKG with the 744 during the 90s.
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RE: Destinations No Longer Flown From SEA

Sun Jan 08, 2012 4:20 am

Quoting PlanesNTrains (Reply 12):
I think that's been more of a seasonal route for WN and/or FL, but maybe I'm mistaken.

I think you're right, now that I look at it.
 
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RE: Destinations No Longer Flown From SEA

Sun Jan 08, 2012 4:27 am

Reeve Aleutian used to fly SEA-CDB (Cold Bay) nonstop on their 727's I think, though it may have been the Electra's.
 
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RE: Destinations No Longer Flown From SEA

Sun Jan 08, 2012 4:58 am

Quoting PlanesNTrains (Reply 11):
Western Pacific Airlines SEA-COS?

Yeah, I thought about that later too. I remember the Simpson's plane and others.

I think QX also did IDA and BTM too.

So we'll add:


COS
IDA
BTM
CDB


SEA is catching up to SJC in the discontinued destinations number.

Did BF ever do DAL?
 
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RE: Destinations No Longer Flown From SEA

Sun Jan 08, 2012 5:32 am

Quoting USAIRWAYS321 (Reply 14):
I think you're right, now that I look at it.

It's hard to keep track nowadays because some flights go "seasonal" for years.  

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RE: Destinations No Longer Flown From SEA

Sun Jan 08, 2012 7:34 am

Horizon did a seasonal OTH (North Bend/Coos Bay) flight for a while. Pro Air did a SEA-DET (Detroit City Airport) route for a very short time as well in 2000. I think Mexicana used to fly to GDL (Guadalajara) as well at one time. I know they flew to SEA but I'm not 100% confident that it was GDL.

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RE: Destinations No Longer Flown From SEA

Sun Jan 08, 2012 7:43 am

Did SU operate a Russian Far East flight at one point as well?
 
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RE: Destinations No Longer Flown From SEA

Sun Jan 08, 2012 7:45 am

Quoting ASFlyer (Reply 18):
Horizon did a seasonal OTH (North Bend/Coos Bay) flight for a while. Pro Air did a SEA-DET (Detroit City Airport) route for a very short time as well in 2000.

I forgot about ProAir - good catch!

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RE: Destinations No Longer Flown From SEA

Sun Jan 08, 2012 7:47 am

If I remember PS flew SEA-YKM
 
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RE: Destinations No Longer Flown From SEA

Sun Jan 08, 2012 7:58 am

Quoting BigGSFO (Reply 19):

They ran a TU154 via Anchorage to Vladivostok...I believe around the same time as AS was operating in the Russian Far East from ANC.

Sadly, SEA-MEM on DL is history...and it won't be coming back. As I understand the issue, the flights are quite full (95% load factor) but the yields are garbage owing to the fact that the vast majority of traffic to/from SEA is connecting somewhere. The only time that SEA does well from MEM is in the summer with the cruise traffic..but I don't see DL putting an aircraft on it....they'll force the traffic out of the secondary markets over MSP/SLC/DTW or ATL.

You can add AF to the list in March as DL will be taking over the route, with a 763.

As for SEA-MEX. it's hard to tell how that will play out. KE flying SEA-MEX might be a cool idea, but as a practical matter, since there isn't that much O&D from SEA to MEX and since AS has most of the beach resorts covered from Seattle either nonstop or via LAX...not sure that we'll see AM in Seattle. We'll just have to wait and see.

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RE: Destinations No Longer Flown From SEA

Sun Jan 08, 2012 8:13 am

Quoting olddominion727 (Reply 21):
If I remember PS flew SEA-YKM

IIRC, PSA flew SFO-YKM-PSC-SFO. I think the only routes that PSA flew out of SEA were SEA-SFO, SEA-LAX, SEA-RNO, and SEA-BLI.

I was thinking about National Airlines, but looking it up it seems they flew SEA-LAX and SEA-IAH (or HOU) at one time.

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RE: Destinations No Longer Flown From SEA

Sun Jan 08, 2012 8:26 am

Quoting PlanesNTrains (Reply 11):
Did Inland Empire Airlines fly SEA-CDA at one time?

Looked it up. Empire flew SEA-CDA for about 3 months in 1985, then entered the market again in 1990. Not sure when the service ended, but I don't believe anyone has flown SEA-CDA since then.

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RE: Destinations No Longer Flown From SEA

Sun Jan 08, 2012 9:38 am

Quoting slclaxkixkhh (Reply 13):
NW also flew SEA-HKG with the 744 during the 90s.

This flight was mostly 742 as I remember...there were 744 subs here and there, but I think most of the SEA-Asia flights with NW were flown with older metal. I know for certain that the photo database here will corroborate that, but anyone with timetables proving otherwise should chime in here...

Most of the big ones (HKG, BKK, HEL, CPH, SVO, etc.) have already been mentioned here. I vividly remember taking my grandmother to SEA for a trip back to Finland in the late 1980s/early 1990s and seeing an AY DC-10 in all its splendor...I also have a really cool ramp photo of an AY DC-8 at SEA back in the 1970s when my mom went back to Finland for the first time...probably not a.net material, but maybe I'll upload it on my account for the hell of it!
 
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RE: Destinations No Longer Flown From SEA

Sun Jan 08, 2012 4:57 pm

AA - SEA-MIA 1pm departure -
 
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RE: Destinations No Longer Flown From SEA

Sun Jan 08, 2012 5:29 pm

Quoting USAIRWAYS321 (Reply 14):
Quoting PlanesNTrains (Reply 12):
I think that's been more of a seasonal route for WN and/or FL, but maybe I'm mistaken.

I think you're right, now that I look at it.

Recently it's been offered around Memorial Day to Labor Day. I've flown it a few times on FL when they were the only airline flying it, and I think SW started offering it more recently.
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RE: Destinations No Longer Flown From SEA

Sun Jan 08, 2012 5:52 pm

Quoting BoeingGuy (Reply 4):
Ahhh, San Juan Airlines doesn't exist anymore? I remember they had the AS name and logo at the Friday Harbor airport. I'd like to have seen them try to get into Roche Harbor!

The San Juan Airlines of the 1980's that flew Piper and Cessna twins no longer exists. There is a San Juan Airlines based out of Anacortes, WA that flies Cessna 206's that usually supplements the Kenmore Air flying as well as charters...it's still around. I see them at BFI occasionally.

Quoting dash8driver16 (Reply 8):
I know there was an airline based out of TIW that for a while (i want to say around 98-00) operated in SEATAC B concourse. THey flew to A lot of the smaller destinations with caravans and a couple other types but I can't remember the name of the airline.

San Juan Airlines as well as Cascade Airways flew out of B-concourse. Harbor Air (the last tiny regional carrier out of SEA) flew Cessna and Piper twins (then later Cessna Caravans) flew out of the S-concourse. Harbor Air went under and the airplanes were purchased by Northwest Seaplanes, who moved to ops from SEA to BFI. They also went under and ultimately ended up at Kenmore Air who still operate out of BFI. They have free shuttles upon request between SEA and BFI.

Quoting BigGSFO (Reply 19):
Did SU operate a Russian Far East flight at one point as well?

Yes, but through ANC.

Quoting BoeingGuy (Reply 6):
ICT - (TW tried this one year with an MD-80 thinking it would get Boeing traffic. It apparently bombed out.)

TW charged waaayyy too much for that route. TW routinely charged up to $700 RT on the route where you could fly HP for about $220 RT with a connection at PHX. Just because Boeing is a large company, doesn't mean that aren't cost-conscious.

With Boeing ICT closing in 2013 and most will move to OKC (Tinker AFB), I wonder if there will be a link between SEA and OKC in the future.

Quoting dash8driver16 (Reply 8):
East sound, CLM, and FHR are now all served by Kenmore Air Express out of BFI with Caravans and Chieftains. I know in summer of 2007 there was service to Tofino from BFI and Also Helijet used to serve Vancouver and Victoria Heliports with S76's as well as flew to Campbell River in the 1900's.

I kind of wished some airline like Pacific Coastal would try Campbell River or Comox...or even Victoria to SEA.
 
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RE: Destinations No Longer Flown From SEA

Sun Jan 08, 2012 6:24 pm

Quoting Gunsontheroof (Reply 25):

AY's Seattle route used to have a tag-on leg, the flight used to continue down to LAX. Finnair even had Finnish crew based in SEA to operate leg down to LAX. The base was closed after three years and LAX became direct. This was sometime in 1980s.

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RE: Destinations No Longer Flown From SEA

Sun Jan 08, 2012 6:33 pm

Wein flew to both Homer and Kodiak nonstop from SEA. About 1980--3 days/week to one and 4days/week to the other.
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RE: Destinations No Longer Flown From SEA

Sun Jan 08, 2012 6:39 pm

What were the routings of AS's former Far East Russian routes? Were they nonstops?
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RE: Destinations No Longer Flown From SEA

Sun Jan 08, 2012 7:13 pm

Quoting aznmadsci (Reply 31):
What were the routings of AS's former Far East Russian routes? Were they nonstops?

I'm pretty sure that most, if not all, of these routes went SEA-ANC-Russia.
 
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RE: Destinations No Longer Flown From SEA

Sun Jan 08, 2012 8:03 pm

Quoting USAIRWAYS321 (Reply 32):
oting aznmadsci (Reply 31):
What were the routings of AS's former Far East Russian routes? Were they nonstops?


I'm pretty sure that most, if not all, of these routes went SEA-ANC-Russia.

None were from SEA; each Russian Far East route flown by AS originated in ANC.

ANC to:

KHV
GDX
VVO
UUS
PKC
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RE: Destinations No Longer Flown From SEA

Sun Jan 08, 2012 8:12 pm

Quoting EA CO AS (Reply 33):
None were from SEA; each Russian Far East route flown by AS originated in ANC.

None of the flight numbers began in SEA? I know there was never non-stop from SEA to Russia, but I thought at least some of them were billed as one-stop from SEA.
 
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RE: Destinations No Longer Flown From SEA

Sun Jan 08, 2012 8:12 pm

Remember, the tread is about destinations no longer served from SEA:

Quoting olddominion727 (Reply 21):
If I remember PS flew SEA-YKM

QX still does this.

Quoting Fetzervalve (Reply 26):
AA - SEA-MIA 1pm departure -

AS still does this.

Quoting baw716 (Reply 22):
You can add AF to the list in March as DL will be taking over the route, with a 763.

DL is still going non-stop to CDG.


There are a lot of good ones added though:

CDA
OTH (I didn't know QX ever did this non-stop from SEA)
GDL
HOM
 
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RE: Destinations No Longer Flown From SEA

Sun Jan 08, 2012 8:19 pm

Quoting USAIRWAYS321 (Reply 10):
US Airways had SEA-BWI service in 2001 & 2002. Southwest is bringing this back in April, but as of now, it would make the list.

FL was running BWI-SEA just this past summer. In August I took a 717 ROC-BWI, then a 73G BWI-SEA back in August. But I didn't arrive in ROC by FL.
 
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RE: Destinations No Longer Flown From SEA

Sun Jan 08, 2012 8:36 pm

I know its not SEA, but I think Seaport Air is stopping BFI-PDX in a week or so.
 
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RE: Destinations No Longer Flown From SEA

Sun Jan 08, 2012 9:34 pm

Quoting timpdx (Reply 37):
I know its not SEA, but I think Seaport Air is stopping BFI-PDX in a week or so.

Yes, but again the thread is about destinations no longer served from SEA. PDX will still have flights from SEA on QX.

You know that Hughes Airwest flew into BFI instead of SEA until about 1970 or 1971. I remember the yellow DC-9s at BFI as a young child.

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