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AF Flying A380 To DXB

Mon Jan 09, 2012 3:27 am

Since when AF flying A380 to DXB. Do they really need all that capacity ? is it permanent or temporarily
EK flying more than 16 flights a week between CDG-DXB. It would be a nice competition if AF kept working on this route
 
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RE: AF Flying A380 To DXB

Mon Jan 09, 2012 8:35 am

I saw it when I was at DXB last week. I thought it was a last minute aircraft switch! Turns out its been flying there for quite some time now.
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RE: AF Flying A380 To DXB

Mon Jan 09, 2012 8:38 am

I can see both a need for capacity and an increase in utilization.
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RE: AF Flying A380 To DXB

Mon Jan 09, 2012 8:40 am

Quoting uaeflyer (Thread starter):
Do they really need all that capacity ?

No, they do it to lose money and purely for the sake of it.  
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RE: AF Flying A380 To DXB

Mon Jan 09, 2012 8:57 am

Quoting Pe@rson (Reply 3):
No, they do it to lose money and purely for the sake of it

Why are AF sending their A380's on such short flights ?

I know i'll get bombarded with reasons but what a waste of... ''spec''...for a next generation aircraft.
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RE: AF Flying A380 To DXB

Mon Jan 09, 2012 9:06 am

I saw an AF A380 on flightradar24 coming from DXB. However, it had a 4 number flight number, so I assumed it was not a regular flight.

However, other than that, I don't know much about their services.

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RE: AF Flying A380 To DXB

Mon Jan 09, 2012 9:08 am

Quoting mikey72 (Reply 4):
Why are AF sending their A380's on such short flights ?

Capacity is a big "why" (no pun intended).
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RE: AF Flying A380 To DXB

Mon Jan 09, 2012 9:16 am

Quoting N1120A (Reply 6):
Capacity is a big "why" (no pun intended).


But with only a handful currently in operation and condsidering their network.....
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RE: AF Flying A380 To DXB

Mon Jan 09, 2012 9:23 am

Quoting mikey72 (Reply 4):
Why are AF sending their A380's on such short flights ?

EK does the same. You use the aircraft on such routes because there is demand. Distance of the route is not an issue.
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RE: AF Flying A380 To DXB

Mon Jan 09, 2012 9:25 am

Quoting mikey72 (Reply 7):
But with only a handful currently in operation and condsidering their network.....

I was thinking the same.
SIN has all along been mentioned as an AF A380 destination, but AF recently announced in increase from 7 to 10 weekly flights, with 77E flying the new additional flights.
Was actually expecting SIN to be an AF A380 destination in 2012.
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RE: AF Flying A380 To DXB

Mon Jan 09, 2012 9:27 am

Quoting mikey72 (Reply 7):
But with only a handful currently in operation and condsidering their network.....

Aircraft will not always be utilized perfectly from a timing standpoint. This allows AF to profitably utilize the A380s in between LH runs.
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RE: AF Flying A380 To DXB

Mon Jan 09, 2012 9:31 am

Quoting airbuseric (Reply 8):
EK does the same. You use the aircraft on such routes because there is demand. Distance of the route is not an issue.

EK and AF have totally different strategy as airlines.

Quoting Asiaflyer (Reply 9):
I was thinking the same.
SIN has all along been mentioned as an AF A380 destination, but AF recently announced in increase from 7 to 10 weekly flights, with 77E flying the new additional flights.
Was actually expecting SIN to be an AF A380 destination in 2012.

I think that in the case of AF and DXB the use of the A380 is to help countenance the 'A380 effect' of EK on the route.

Fair enough.
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RE: AF Flying A380 To DXB

Mon Jan 09, 2012 9:37 am

Quoting mikey72 (Reply 4):
Why are AF sending their A380's on such short flights ?

Obviously they have determined that it is a worthwhile deployment based upon appropriate analysis.
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RE: AF Flying A380 To DXB

Mon Jan 09, 2012 10:01 am

Quoting Pe@rson (Reply 12):
Obviously they have determined that it is a worthwhile deployment based upon appropriate analysis.


That we can all agree about.  
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RE: AF Flying A380 To DXB

Mon Jan 09, 2012 10:54 am

Quoting mikey72 (Reply 4):
Why are AF sending their A380's on such short flights ?

Paris-Dubai is about 5,500 km and 6-7 hours in the air... I can think of a few shorter flights  

I would think flight times of 6 hours and more would qualify for long-haul and that the economics will still be quite good for large airliners.
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RE: AF Flying A380 To DXB

Mon Jan 09, 2012 11:15 am

also on here
Air France A380 To Dubai? (by santos Nov 3 2011 in Civil Aviation)
 
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RE: AF Flying A380 To DXB

Mon Jan 09, 2012 2:19 pm

AF will remove the A380 from its DXB run for summer 2012. They need the frame, since they are resuming NRT, starting daily to LAX and increasing IAD to daily.

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RE: AF Flying A380 To DXB

Mon Jan 09, 2012 2:36 pm

Quoting CRJ900 (Reply 14):
Paris-Dubai is about 5,500 km and 6-7 hours in the air... I can think of a few shorter flights

I would think flight times of 6 hours and more would qualify for long-haul and that the economics will still be quite good for large airliners.

I suppose Paris-Dubai just about scrapes in as long-haul.

It costs a small fortune to take 100 kilos out of an airplane in design and I remember the problems Airbus had with the A380 !

About 5.5 tonnes of problem to be precise or 55 passengers who weigh 200 pounds each !

But I admit i'm probably missing the point and being pedantic.
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