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Il-76 As Pax Transport

Mon Jan 16, 2012 12:18 pm

Don't know if there ever was a discussion about this...

I read somewhere in the net that the IL-76 could load certain containers, fitted with a cabin for pax transport. It looked just like a normal ecco cabin. I also remember that this was more than one containter, and each could fit around 30 (?) pax. It was not for troop transport, but explicitely for use as an commercial airliner.

The above info is all I ever found on this topic. Someone told me that the Air Kazakhstan IL-76 colliding with the Saudia (?) 747 over India was equipped in this way.

Now maybe this is a legend, but it's on my mind for ages and I want to learn more about it (and maybe hitch a ride  )

Is ther any further info on this topic? Are there any pictures? Anything welcome!!!

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RE: Il-76 As Pax Transport

Mon Jan 16, 2012 1:01 pm

The IL-76 was used for both military and civilian transport. US military airlift planes have cargo pallets with economy class seating for use by civilians (like DoD or DoS officials), so I expect the Soviets / Russians use(d) something similar.
 
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RE: Il-76 As Pax Transport

Mon Jan 16, 2012 1:02 pm

Indeed the IL76 can carry passengers, the 1996 midair collision with a 747 involved an IL76 carrying passengers:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1996_Charkhi_Dadri_mid-air_collision
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RE: Il-76 As Pax Transport

Mon Jan 16, 2012 1:19 pm

Well, the "passengers" were traders who chartered the Il76 to have enough space and capacity for their purchases in India to carry back home. Meaning, that flight had a dual purpose. Similar to Imelda Marcos when she went shopping in NY, requiring a PAL 747 to carry the loot.

No airline in their right mind would usse the Il 76 as a passenger aircraft
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RE: Il-76 As Pax Transport

Mon Jan 16, 2012 1:49 pm

Quoting Stitch (Reply 1):
US military airlift planes have cargo pallets with economy class seating

Some pretty fancy economy class seating in some of the pictures I have seen  http://a.abcnews.go.com/images/Politics/abc_pol_clinton_111019_wg.jpg
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RE: Il-76 As Pax Transport

Mon Jan 16, 2012 2:03 pm

I would not call row 1, reserved for the secretary of state "economy seating", but it's a good solution for the final leg to Afghanistan or similar nice destinations which require military transport.

I doubt the German C160s are similarly equipped on similar missions.
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RE: Il-76 As Pax Transport

Mon Jan 16, 2012 2:26 pm

Quoting PanHAM (Reply 3):
No airline in their right mind would usse the Il 76 as a passenger aircraft

Sometimes the situation presents little choice, I suggest you read this excellent article;

http://www.antarctic-company.com/article-antarctic-airbridge.pdf


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RE: Il-76 As Pax Transport

Mon Jan 16, 2012 3:19 pm

Yes, but these are the rare exceptions, you can do that with a c-130 as well but it would probably be more expensive., in essence, it is a transport of equipment to a remotre location which also carries passengers and far from an airline style operation.
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RE: Il-76 As Pax Transport

Tue Jan 17, 2012 2:08 am

Sec State was actually riding fairly economically as there was no slide in DV cubicle which is palletized and loaded towards the front. It is a private suite for the "DV" aboard. In the 1980s the Military Airlift Commander (CINCMAC) had a C-141 with a special slide in which had nice seating, a conference table, lavatory and galley for use in this cargo aircraft. They can slide in passenger seats on the C-17 as they did in the old days with the venerable C-141. It is a cold ride though on either plane so they handed out blankets. I flew a few times as a passenger on a C-141 and C-5 in the upstairs pax configured compartment.
 
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RE: Il-76 As Pax Transport

Tue Jan 17, 2012 4:35 am

I got to fly in one from the Angolan Air Force last year.

There are no windows in the fuselage, and no installed toilet. I'm sure you can have pallets with a toilet on, but this is much more imaginative.

About changing it into a pax liner.. Just because you can doesn't mean you should.

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RE: Il-76 As Pax Transport

Tue Jan 17, 2012 8:48 am

I believe Iraq used the Il-76 for flights between Baghdad & Basra during the later part of Saddam's regime. At least this is what I'd read in newspaper and magazine.