gilesdavies
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New Route - LGW To Europe's Own Version Of Kaitak!

Tue Jan 17, 2012 11:29 pm

Had a look to see if this has been posted, but couldn't find anything...

This is a new route for us UK enthusiasts, who want to experience a spectacular landind and take off...

Montenegro Airlines announced a few days ago they are to launch a new twice daily service from Gatwick to the little known airport called Tivat, in the former Yugoslav Republic of Montenegro on the Adriatic Coast this summer...

While the flight is going to obviously attract tourists to this beautiful tourist region, the approach, landing and take-off is probably Europe's most difficult airport to operate into. With Mountains at one end of the runway and sea fifty meters from the runway at the other end, makes a great experience as the aircraft approaches from the Adriatic, and weaves into the narrow opening of the Bay of Kotor with mountains on all three sides.

The flight will be operated by a Fokker 100, which makes a change from the usual 737's and A320's.

http://exyuaviation.blogspot.com/201...montenegro-airlines-to-london.html

Google Maps:
http://maps.google.co.uk/maps?hl=en&...0.138416,0.326843&t=h&z=12&vpsrc=6

YouTube
Approach Into Tivat - http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=endscreen&v=OSY8sB56lp0&NR=1

Wikipedia:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tivat_Airport
Tivat airport is located on the northern Adriatic coast of Montenegro. With mountains rising abruptly around Tivat airport and runway 32 that ends only 50 meters from the waters of the Bay of Kotor, it is a challenging approach and landing, rated 4D by the ICAO (operational restrictions due to the surrounding high terrain). Despite that harsh environment, there have been no accidents at the airport since it began operations. Due to mountainous terrain along the approach path, the airport is open only during daytime hours. Tivat Airport is one of the most dangerous and most difficult airport for approach and landing and a challenge for every pilot.That’s why pilots like to call it “The European KaiTak”(LYTV Approach RWY14 is quite similar to VHHH Approach RWY13) - see YouTube video "Siberian Landing - Tivat Tower" Pilots say that anyone who lands at Tivat airport during rain & wind (low visibility,heavy crosswinds,wind shear,especially during winter season) can land anywhere, anytime, in any conditions.(see AIP Serbia and Montenegro for procedures/instructions).

If you are unfamilar with Tivat, here is a few links to some photo's:
http://v7.cache3.c.bigcache.googleap...al/24417076.jpg?redirect_counter=1
http://static.panoramio.com/photos/original/23439396.jpg
http://v1.cache2.c.bigcache.googleap...al/26955994.jpg?redirect_counter=1
http://static.panoramio.com/photos/original/23439375.jpg
http://v5.cache3.c.bigcache.googleap...nal/3329487.jpg?redirect_counter=1
http://static.panoramio.com/photos/original/1648800.jpg
http://static.panoramio.com/photos/original/23439244.jpg

[Edited 2012-01-17 15:31:08]
 
bennett123
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RE: New Route - LGW To Europe's Own Version Of Kaitak!

Tue Jan 17, 2012 11:42 pm

If the Bay of Kotar is accessible, then it could be Europe's SXM.
 
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RE: New Route - LGW To Europe's Own Version Of Kaitak!

Tue Jan 17, 2012 11:48 pm

Very interesting! Great to hear Montenegro adding another route.  

Cheers for posting.
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gilesdavies
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RE: New Route - LGW To Europe's Own Version Of Kaitak!

Tue Jan 17, 2012 11:59 pm

Quoting bennett123 (Reply 1):
If the Bay of Kotar is accessible, then it could be Europe's SXM.

No I think that is reserved for Skiathos (JSI), with its 5000ft runway and the runway is literally about 10 meters from the sea!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EiKSfjPHNGQ&feature=related
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EiKSfjPHNGQ&feature=related
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Mz8hkWo4Bsw&feature=related
 
mainMAN
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RE: New Route - LGW To Europe's Own Version Of Kaitak!

Wed Jan 18, 2012 10:26 am

Quoting gilesdavies (Thread starter):
Montenegro Airlines announced a few days ago they are to launch a new twice daily service from Gatwick to the little known airport called Tivat, in the former Yugoslav Republic of Montenegro on the Adriatic Coast this summer...

Excellent. It's a little better known amongst people slightly older. Yugotours featured flights to Budva-Tivat throughout the 70s and 80s, although I seem to remember it was only available from MAN and a London airport, probably LGW.
 
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RE: New Route - LGW To Europe's Own Version Of Kaitak!

Wed Jan 18, 2012 10:43 am

Lanzarote runway is very close to the sea, only the prom seperates the runway end from the beach!
from the Island with sun and great photo's.. Why not visit Lanzarote
 
richardw
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RE: New Route - LGW To Europe's Own Version Of Kaitak!

Wed Jan 18, 2012 10:56 am

It isn't a new route, they have operated it in the past.

(YM) Montenegro Airlines 721
(LGW) London, EN, GB to (TIV) Tivat, ME

Wednesdays in summer 2009

I wouldn't be surprised if U2 fly to Montenegro at some time in the future.
 
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RE: New Route - LGW To Europe's Own Version Of Kaitak!

Wed Jan 18, 2012 11:01 am

Quoting gilesdavies (Thread starter):
twice daily

Is it actually twice daily, which seems very high, or twice weekly?
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RE: New Route - LGW To Europe's Own Version Of Kaitak!

Wed Jan 18, 2012 1:54 pm

Quoting mainMAN (Reply 4):
Yugotours featured flights to Budva-Tivat throughout the 70s and 80s, although I seem to remember it was only available from MAN and a London airport, probably LGW.

It wasn't LGW. I worked at LGW then and used to do all the Yugotours flights. They used to fly to Split, Dubrovnik and Pula from LGW.

I like the look of that Tivat. Might check it out myself.
and with that..cabin crew, seats for landing please.
 
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RE: New Route - LGW To Europe's Own Version Of Kaitak!

Wed Jan 18, 2012 10:54 pm

Quoting gilesdavies (Thread starter):
The flight will be operated by a Fokker 100

I have a couple of videos on FL350. They show Fokker 100 landing (mountain approach) and takeoff (over the sea with a nice turn). Too bad FL350 is down for weeks.

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RE: New Route - LGW To Europe's Own Version Of Kaitak!

Wed Jan 18, 2012 11:45 pm

Besides Tivat-LGW, Montenegro Airlines will also start Podgorica-LGW. Also another new airline to LGW will be Jat Airways which will operate 2 weekly seasonal flights http://exyuaviation.blogspot.com/201...jat-goes-seasonal-to-gatwick.html/ Oh and Adria also resuming flights to LGW from Ljubljana this summer.