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Looking For Rough Field/unpaved Runway Operators

Tue Jan 24, 2012 2:27 pm

Hi all,

I am looking for companies that operate their aircraft on rough fields/unpaved runways.

Can somebody help?

Thank you.

Best regards,

Jerome
 
71Zulu
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RE: Looking For Rough Field/unpaved Runway Operators

Tue Jan 24, 2012 2:36 pm

Canadian North and First Air I think still have gravel kitted 732s and operate on unpaved runways. All of the airports that AS flies to now are paved.


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RE: Looking For Rough Field/unpaved Runway Operators

Tue Jan 24, 2012 2:41 pm

AS has since retired its 732s Combis, which I believe were the only variant of 737s equipped for this type of operation (with Gravel Kits.

Air North still operates 732s Combis with Gravel Kits.
 
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RE: Looking For Rough Field/unpaved Runway Operators

Tue Jan 24, 2012 2:53 pm

Found this gravel kit 732 at Air North,

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Is that the only one they have?
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RE: Looking For Rough Field/unpaved Runway Operators

Tue Jan 24, 2012 3:00 pm

Loganair out of the UK flies their Twin Otters and maybe the Islanders to Barra. As they use the sand as the runway I believe they base their arrival and departure times on the tides? I thought I heard that once but I could be wrong.
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RE: Looking For Rough Field/unpaved Runway Operators

Tue Jan 24, 2012 3:11 pm

There is a company that flies A319 to Antarctica. They're charter flights on behalf of a New Zealand or Australian government agency.

The USAF flies to the McMurdo sea ice field... tickets are sold through Milo Minderbinder. 
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RE: Looking For Rough Field/unpaved Runway Operators

Tue Jan 24, 2012 3:39 pm

Quoting 71Zulu (Reply 3):
Is that the only one they have?

According to their website, they have 3 732s in service, one of which is a combi. My previous post was a somewhat ambiguous, but I'm not sure if it's just the combi with Gravel Kit or all of their 732s.
 
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RE: Looking For Rough Field/unpaved Runway Operators

Tue Jan 24, 2012 4:22 pm

I don't know if they are still happening, but there used to be a load of 727's down in Angola flying into dirt strips, loads of footage on youtube of it.
 
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RE: Looking For Rough Field/unpaved Runway Operators

Tue Jan 24, 2012 4:36 pm

 
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RE: Looking For Rough Field/unpaved Runway Operators

Tue Jan 24, 2012 4:41 pm

When I flew for MarkAir, we did. I know AS did as well into places like Dutch Harbor,AK. They now use the 737-400 Combis, right? Do they still fly to Dutch Harbor?
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ykaops
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RE: Looking For Rough Field/unpaved Runway Operators

Tue Jan 24, 2012 6:58 pm

TO /FROM where .. Canada, the US, Timbuktu?

Several off field operators in Canada

5T , 4N , 3H (B737-200'S) with gravel kits
7F (B737-200's w gravel kits) , L100 Hercules
Arctic Sunwest (DHC5 Buffalo, Twin otters)
Air Tindi (DHC7-Dash 7's, Twin Otters)
Summit Air DO228's
Buffalo Airways (DC3, C46, L188)

Depending on what you want to haul and from /to where.. anyone of the above would likely have something in their fleet as they also have various other aircraft in their fleet..
 
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RE: Looking For Rough Field/unpaved Runway Operators

Tue Jan 24, 2012 7:51 pm

Are all the runways used on UA/CO's Island hopper service from HNL to GUM paved? I thought at least 1 of them was crushed coral.
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RE: Looking For Rough Field/unpaved Runway Operators

Tue Jan 24, 2012 7:56 pm

Not sure if you are looking exclusively in North America but the most famous one local to here is Barra which is a beach runway.


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RE: Looking For Rough Field/unpaved Runway Operators

Tue Jan 24, 2012 8:06 pm

There's several more in Canada:

Air Creebec, Wasaya Airways, Calm Air, Perimeter Airways, Air Inuit... and many more all operate turboprops of various sizes up to Dash 8s, ATR42s, HS748s and Saab 340s off of Gravel strips.
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RE: Looking For Rough Field/unpaved Runway Operators

Tue Jan 24, 2012 8:09 pm

6 current Canadian operators of 732s with gravel kits: Air Inuit, Canadian North, First Air, Air North, Nolinor (charter), XStrata (mining company, worker shuttle):


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In Nunavut, the largest of the 3 Canadian northern territories (about 20% of Canada's total area but only about 33,000 total population), I believe only 2 airports have paved runways -- Iqaluit (YFB) and Rankin Inlet (YRT).

Also dozens of small airports with gravel runways in Manitoba, northern Ontario etc., with scheduled service by smaller propeller aircraft.
 
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RE: Looking For Rough Field/unpaved Runway Operators

Tue Jan 24, 2012 8:17 pm

Trans Capital Air of Centre Island Airport DT Toronto also flies Dash 7's 102 ( pax ) 103 ( combi ) Amazing STOL performance. Landed on many Dirt and unprepared landing strips the last year. Loved that plane!! They have a large fleet, do most of their flying for the United Nations, and also special Charters.
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RE: Looking For Rough Field/unpaved Runway Operators

Tue Jan 24, 2012 9:26 pm

First Air Hercules on CDL7 ice strip
Arctic Sunwest DHC5 Buffalo @ CHB3
Canadian North B737 @CDL7


2 on the ice at CDL7 and 1 on the 3000' gravel strip
 
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RE: Looking For Rough Field/unpaved Runway Operators

Fri Jan 27, 2012 6:53 pm

Are there any other operators with smaller aircraft (like King Airs...)?

Worldwide of course!

Cheers,

Jerome
 
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RE: Looking For Rough Field/unpaved Runway Operators

Fri Jan 27, 2012 7:23 pm

Quoting harleydriver (Reply 4):
Loganair out of the UK flies their Twin Otters and maybe the Islanders to Barra. As they use the sand as the runway I believe they base their arrival and departure times on the tides? I thought I heard that once but I could be wrong.

Correct - see photos in Reply 12.

Here I guess that either the flight had been delayed or the tide came in more quickly than anticipated:


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RE: Looking For Rough Field/unpaved Runway Operators

Fri Jan 27, 2012 7:24 pm

Quoting Airimages (Reply 17):
Are there any other operators with smaller aircraft (like King Airs...)?

Worldwide of course!

Royal Flying Doctor Service - Australia

http://www.flyingdoctor.org.au/Aviation/Our-Aircraft/

They operate King Airs and PC-12s in the Australian bush.
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RE: Looking For Rough Field/unpaved Runway Operators

Sat Jan 28, 2012 12:44 am

Don't you watch Flying Wild Alaska??? Era Alaska. Then you have PenAir and all those bush airlines in Alaska.
 
ykaops
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RE: Looking For Rough Field/unpaved Runway Operators

Mon Jan 30, 2012 1:35 pm

http://www.north-wrightairways.com/aboutus/ouraircraft/index.shtml

Used NorthWright (previously known as Nahanni Air) exclusively in the 80's to charter into our 1200' "strip" in the Mckenzie mountains using the Twin Otter and Pilatus Porter. The Porter is an amazing machine!!!