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DL 1680: Same Flight Number East And West?

Sun Jan 29, 2012 12:03 am

I was on Delta Flight 1680 last Tuesday, a 767-300 from Atlanta to San Francisco. I noticed that Flight 1680 is the exact same flight number used on the return of this plane back to Atlanta. That seems like a curiosity; is it rare?
 
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RE: DL 1680: Same Flight Number East And West?

Sun Jan 29, 2012 12:05 am

It's become more common at mainline Delta of late - the regionals have been doing this for some time, but it's really expanded to the mainline numbering lately - I've had quite a few flights that have the same number on a turn.
 
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RE: DL 1680: Same Flight Number East And West?

Sun Jan 29, 2012 12:08 am

CO/UA are doing it as well, particularly on the HUB to outstation turns back to the HUB.
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RE: DL 1680: Same Flight Number East And West?

Sun Jan 29, 2012 12:21 am

Thanks to mergers and massive codesharing, the major airlines are running out of 4-digit flight numbers and use this as a method to preserve numbers.
 
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RE: DL 1680: Same Flight Number East And West?

Sun Jan 29, 2012 12:22 am

I've seen it on DL ATL - FLL flights.
 
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RE: DL 1680: Same Flight Number East And West?

Sun Jan 29, 2012 12:47 am

KLM flies its AMS - JRO - DAR triangle under one flight number.
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RE: DL 1680: Same Flight Number East And West?

Sun Jan 29, 2012 12:51 am

Quoting chrisnh (Thread starter):
I was on Delta Flight 1680 last Tuesday, a 767-300 from Atlanta to San Francisco. I noticed that Flight 1680 is the exact same flight number used on the return of this plane back to Atlanta. That seems like a curiosity; is it rare?

There are a ton of them across the system now. Just a handful from MSP alone.. DL1732 MSP-ORD-MSP, DL 2105 MSP-SFO-MSP, DL 2322 MSP-MIA-MSP, DL 1020 MSP-RSW-MSP, DL 1712 MSP-TPA-MSP.
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RE: DL 1680: Same Flight Number East And West?

Sun Jan 29, 2012 1:24 am

UL too flies a couple of routes with the same flight number. But only on triangular routes. UL316 CMB-SIN-KUL-CMB and UL571 CMB-MXP-FCO-CMB.
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RE: DL 1680: Same Flight Number East And West?

Sun Jan 29, 2012 5:56 pm

Im finding it more rare to find different flight numbers operating on the turn. It's created somewhat of a headache for nonreving because it would not let me check in online until the arriving flight shows in. Anyone else seen this problem?
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RE: DL 1680: Same Flight Number East And West?

Sun Jan 29, 2012 6:11 pm

We used to call them "round-robin" flights..........I think we had a few in SLC......SLC-JAC and SLC-IDA come to mind......I remember we had one at ORD in the 70s that was ORD-GSO-RDU-ORD.
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RE: DL 1680: Same Flight Number East And West?

Sun Jan 29, 2012 6:31 pm

There's at least one ATL-LAS-ATL flight that retains the same number:

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In some respects, it does make sense, and is not much different than a flight number for an international flight being used on a domestic tag-on leg. I know that it used to be easy to decipher flight numbers, as airlines would assign certain flight numbers to their various regional carriers, but with airlines like Delta having so many different Delta Connection carriers than they had previously, those have been changed even further. I remember when EV's flight numbers were all 4XXX, OH exclusively used 5XXX, and I can't recall, but didn't OO exclusively use 6XXX? This was well over a decade ago. I know that these days, flight numbers that were previously associated with one DL Connection carrier are now among the range assigned to another DL Connection carriers.

As previously noted, codesharing has contributed to this as well. Initially as part of an airline operating as a regional feeder for an airline and later as codeshare deals and eventually alliances took hold.
 
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RE: DL 1680: Same Flight Number East And West?

Sun Jan 29, 2012 6:34 pm

Quoting srbmod (Reply 10):
I know that it used to be easy to decipher flight numbers,

North-south, east-west used to have a specific pattern of flight numbers, but I think that started to get phased out as DL got larger......just no way to make it workable, any more.
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