boeingorbust
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Why No More RWY 30 At YVR?

Mon Jan 30, 2012 12:01 am

I believe YVR doesn't use RWY 30 anymore. At least all the many many times I've flown in I've seen no traffic arriving or departing on it. I remember back in the late 90's it was used. Anyone know why they stopped? I imagine not viable as the have the 26L 26R available... Is 30 closed or just rarely used? Or perhaps used during RWY maintenance on other RWY's...
 
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RE: Why No More RWY 30 At YVR?

Tue Jan 31, 2012 7:03 pm

Anyone have anything?
 
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RE: Why No More RWY 30 At YVR?

Tue Jan 31, 2012 8:35 pm

Runway 12/30 was closed for a couple of months in 2010 due to some kind of construction project. From my understanding, it is used on a limited basis for now. During winter operations, when the departure management plan is in place, 12/30 usually serves as a taxiway only.
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RE: Why No More RWY 30 At YVR?

Tue Jan 31, 2012 8:41 pm

There's nothing in NavCanada's information on YVR to indicate that runway 30 is closed. If not mistaken, it also has no instrument landing system (runway 12 from the other end does).
 
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RE: Why No More RWY 30 At YVR?

Tue Jan 31, 2012 9:21 pm

There are no NOTAMS indicating the runway is closed. There is an RNAV/GNSS IFR approach to runway 30.

That being said though, I haven't seen it used in years.
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RE: Why No More RWY 30 At YVR?

Wed Feb 01, 2012 12:19 am

In mid 2011 it was decided to stop using 12 for arrivals mainly from a safety and liability standpoint with the SIRO operation. During daylight hours, 12/30 is usually closed due to birds by NOTAM, although when the wind exceeds the crosswind component for 08 or 26, 12 will often become the primary runway. As for 30, it's still available to VFR aircraft but the benefits are next to nil and often not used.
 
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RE: Why No More RWY 30 At YVR?

Wed Feb 01, 2012 2:16 am

It was certainly closed for a few months at the back end of 2011, I was told in relation to construction work involving new taxiway lighting and other projects which meant that there was an increased burden on controllers and increased risks during SIRO, so was easier just to use the parallels instead, particularly GA traffic is no where what it was a few years ago anyway to require its use.

I believe it is open now, I saw the lights on briefly the other day, but have not seen anything land on it for quite a while. I have seen it used for 737/320 size aircraft during a very strong crosswind, in fact saw the PR 343 use it for the LAS hop! That was years ago and have not seen it used in this way for a very long time. Doesnt mean its not, but its very rare.

Before closure, particularly in summer when the winds were light it was often used by the Jazz, 8P & 9M flights coming in from the north as well as the Navajo's, medevacs & Carson Metro's plus the odd bizjet & GA, again mostly originating from northern BC so they could get a straight path in. Suppose it reduced congestion in the hold pattern at peak times, particularly with slow aircraft like ho's and van's playing with 747's.

Quoting My16Sidedoffice (Reply 5):
12/30 is usually closed due to birds

Yeah, a bird conservation area at the end of a runway at a major international airport is always a smart idea... I guess the feathered kind were there before the metal ones, but Im sure they could be "transferred" to Reifel or elsewhere if necessary.
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RE: Why No More RWY 30 At YVR?

Wed Feb 01, 2012 3:09 am

Thanks for the feedback. I've flown into YVR as crew member many times and have never used it.
 
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RE: Why No More RWY 30 At YVR?

Wed Feb 01, 2012 5:58 am

The last time I remember 12 being the active was Nov24, 2011. Here's the PAL A343 rotating after approx 3300feet of runway that day
http://www.flickr.com/photos/two-six_left/6429054453/in/photostream
 
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RE: Why No More RWY 30 At YVR?

Wed Feb 01, 2012 6:34 am

Thanks for the pic! I guess they use it for all a/c when winds are that extreme!
 
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RE: Why No More RWY 30 At YVR?

Wed Feb 01, 2012 4:38 pm

At the end of November I arrived on 12 on a AC 77L from YYZ. It had been a long time since I landed on 12.
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