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LAN To Strengthen The LIM Hub With New Frequencies

Wed Feb 01, 2012 2:31 am

*Tomorrow, LAN Colombia will launch BOG-MIA 4x weekly (A-320); which complements LAN's current thrice weekly non-stop B763 operated services between BOG and MIA.

*Tomorrow, LAN Perú will also increase frequency on both the LIM-CUN and LIM-PUJ routes to daily services. LAN Airlines will also resume its twice weekly non-stop service between LIM and IPC.

*On February 2, 2012, LAN Perú will launch LIM-HAV 3x weekly, (A-319).

*On July 2, 2012, LAN Airlines will operate two daily non-stop flights between SCL and GIG on a year-round basis.

*On July 5, 2012, LAN Perú will increase frequency on the LIM-GRU route from 11x weekly to 2x daily, (B763/A319).

*On August 27, 2012, LAN Perú will increase frequency on the LIM-MIA route to 14x weekly and on October 15, 2012, LAN Perú will further increase frequency on the LIM-MIA route to 17x weekly.

*During September, LAN Perú will add additional frequencies on the LIM-MEX and LIM-SFO routes.

*On October 16, 2012, LAN will increase frequency on the LIM-JFK route from daily to 11x weekly and will also increase frequency on the LIM-LAX route from 10x weekly to 13x weekly.

Link in Spanish:
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RE: LAN To Strengthen The LIM Hub With New Frequencies

Wed Feb 01, 2012 3:07 am

Quoting SCL767 (Thread starter):
LIM-SFO routes.

Oh wow I didn't realize they were down to 3 weekly. Didn't they start with 4 weekly?
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RE: LAN To Strengthen The LIM Hub With New Frequencies

Wed Feb 01, 2012 3:20 am

great news! would love to see them stronger on add flights to CCS from BOG and more to LIM in order to have more connections
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RE: LAN To Strengthen The LIM Hub With New Frequencies

Wed Feb 01, 2012 4:20 am

Any new routes or frequencies at IPC?
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RE: LAN To Strengthen The LIM Hub With New Frequencies

Wed Feb 01, 2012 4:33 am

LAN Cargo has more cargo partners and a larger presence at LAX via its cargo operations. Cargo originating/terminating at or via SFO usually peaks on the route during the summer. Also, LP only code-shares with one Asian carrier at SFO. It's worth noting that these new frequencies to North America are possible since LAN will now receive 9 new B-767-316ERs during this year.

Quoting QANTAS747-438 (Reply 8):
Any new routes or frequencies at IPC?

LA LIM-IPC resumes in a couple of hours. Also, LA has added additional frequencies on the SCL-IPC route.

[Edited 2012-01-31 20:35:11]

[Edited 2012-02-06 07:12:51 by SA7700]
 
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RE: LAN To Strengthen The LIM Hub With New Frequencies

Wed Feb 01, 2012 4:47 am

Quoting SCL767 (Reply 9):
LAN Cargo has more cargo partners and a larger presence at LAX via its cargo operations. Cargo originating/terminating at or via SFO usually peaks on the route during the summer. Also, LP only code-shares with one Asian carrier at SFO.

Why are they flying passenger planes to SFO then?
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RE: LAN To Strengthen The LIM Hub With New Frequencies

Wed Feb 01, 2012 4:55 am

Quoting MaverickM11 (Reply 10):

Quoting SCL767 (Reply 9):
LAN Cargo has more cargo partners and a larger presence at LAX via its cargo operations. Cargo originating/terminating at or via SFO usually peaks on the route during the summer. Also, LP only code-shares with one Asian carrier at SFO.

Why are they flying passenger planes to SFO then?

Obviously because passengers fly on the a/c. Some pax also enjoy the fact that LAN is the only carrier that can fly them non-stop between SFO and LIM, and offer connections via LIM.
 
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RE: LAN To Strengthen The LIM Hub With New Frequencies

Wed Feb 01, 2012 5:05 am

Quoting SCL767 (Reply 11):
Obviously because passengers fly on the a/c. Some pax also enjoy the fact that LAN is the only carrier that can fly them non-stop between SFO and LIM, and offer connections via LIM.

So it's a passenger flight that was reduced because all the cargo is going over LAX to Asia. I love the reasoning on a.net sometimes. 
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RE: LAN To Strengthen The LIM Hub With New Frequencies

Wed Feb 01, 2012 11:01 am

Still waiting for the LIM-GIG service with LP. JJ so far did nothing to launch the route themselves. In the meantime, TA sends their warmest thanks.
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RE: LAN To Strengthen The LIM Hub With New Frequencies

Wed Feb 01, 2012 3:55 pm

Quoting SCL767 (Thread starter):
During September, LAN Perú will add additional frequencies on the LIM-MEX and LIM-SFO routes

Some nay-sayers said LAN wasn't going to well at SFO, that they should "add more freqeuncies to LAX instead"....

Happy to hear they're adding frequencies to SFO
 
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RE: LAN To Strengthen The LIM Hub With New Frequencies

Wed Feb 01, 2012 5:59 pm

Just curious if we were still doing this charade

Quoting g500 (Reply 18):
Some nay-sayers said LAN wasn't going to well at SFO, that they should "add more freqeuncies to LAX instead"....

According to DOT numbers for the first 7 months of 2011, LAXLIM carries 60+% more cargo per departure than SFOLIM and has a LF that is 8pts higher @ 90%, so adding more LAX is not unreasonable

[Edited 2012-02-06 07:16:01 by SA7700]
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RE: LAN To Strengthen The LIM Hub With New Frequencies

Wed Feb 01, 2012 6:09 pm

well the times we ( my wife and myself used the route, the flights were totally fully booked, a lot of Argentinians, Brazilians, and a lot of Asian people connecting on the One World flights ex SFO!!!

Quoting MaverickM11 (Reply 19):
According to DOT numbers for the first 7 months of 2011, LAXLIM carries 60+% more cargo per departure than SFOLIM and has a LF that is 8pts higher @ 90%, so adding more LAX is not unreasonable

no surprise regarding cargo, LAX has a lot of cargo demand ex LIMA, but its nearly all commodity business (Asparagues) and SFO still has not good facilitys and work flow for this kind of cargo + LAX is used by several companys to distribute in the west coast

[Edited 2012-02-06 07:17:57 by SA7700]
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RE: LAN To Strengthen The LIM Hub With New Frequencies

Wed Feb 01, 2012 9:46 pm

Quoting AF086 (Reply 17):
Still waiting for the LIM-GIG service with LP. JJ so far did nothing to launch the route themselves. In the meantime, TA sends their warmest thanks.

Hopefully LP will launch that route this year. I wouldn't be surprised if TACA decides to up its flight frequency on that route before LP makes a move.
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RE: LAN To Strengthen The LIM Hub With New Frequencies

Thu Feb 02, 2012 1:48 am

Quoting SCL767 (Thread starter):
On July 2, 2012, LAN Airlines will operate two daily non-stop flights between SCL and GIG on a year-round basis


LA SCL-GIG 14x weekly with 320 + LA SCL-GRU-GIG 7x weekly with 320.




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Quoting SCL767 (Reply 4):
EZE-LIM-LAX 3x weekly


This flight is operated and marketed by LAN Peru.




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Quoting SCL767 (Reply 4):
and plans on opening three new domestic destinations with-in Perú


May we know these new Peruvian destinations or there's nothing accurate at this time?




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Quoting RAGAZZO777 (Reply 13):
TACA Perú will deploy a widebody aircraft (A330) on its LIM-MIA route this year


Source, please.
It makes sense taking into account that TA LIM-MIA is only 7x weekly at this time and LP LIM-MIA with 763 is announcing to increase gradually their operations up to 14x weekly.

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RE: LAN To Strengthen The LIM Hub With New Frequencies

Thu Feb 02, 2012 2:01 am

Quoting SJOtoLIR (Reply 22):
LA SCL-GRU-GIG 7x weekly with 320.

LA750/LA751 is operated with a B763 and will be discontinued later this year in order to release a slot pair at GRU.

Quoting SJOtoLIR (Reply 22):

Quoting SCL767 (Reply 4):
and plans on opening three new domestic destinations with-in Perú


May we know these new Peruvian destinations or there's nothing accurate at this time?

Here's a hint:
http://www.andina.com.pe/Espanol/Noticia.aspx?id=6I8UnKo7zf4=

Quoting SJOtoLIR (Reply 22):

Quoting SCL767 (Reply 4):
EZE-LIM-LAX 3x weekly


This flight is operated and marketed by LAN Peru.


That is correct. It will increase in frequency this year. Also, LP/4M will increase frequency on the LIM-EZE route to 23x weekly later this year.

Quoting SJOtoLIR (Reply 22):
It makes sense taking into account that TA LIM-MIA is only 7x weekly at this time and LP LIM-MIA with 763 is announcing to increase gradually their operations up to 14x weekly.

Incorrect, LAN Perú will increase frequency on the LIM-MIA route from 13x weekly to 17x weekly, (B763). Thus, AA/LP will offer 24 weekly non-stop flights with the B763 and 7 weekly non-stop flights with the B752.
 
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RE: LAN To Strengthen The LIM Hub With New Frequencies

Thu Feb 02, 2012 2:21 am

Quoting SCL767 (Reply 23):
Thus, AA/LP will offer 24 weekly non-stop flights with the B763 and 7 weekly non-stop flights with the B752.


From October 15th 2012:

AA MIA-LIM 7x weekly with 752
AA MIA-LIM 7x weekly with 763
LP LIM-MIA 17x weekly with 763

A very well served market on OneWorld grouping in such route !

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RE: LAN To Strengthen The LIM Hub With New Frequencies

Thu Feb 02, 2012 2:44 am

Quoting SJOtoLIR (Reply 22):
Quoting RAGAZZO777 (Reply 13):
TACA Perú will deploy a widebody aircraft (A330) on its LIM-MIA route this year


Source, please.
It makes sense taking into account that TA LIM-MIA is only 7x weekly at this time

Sorry, no official source. However, a couple of well trusted insiders have revealed (in other aviation forums) that T0 will receive this year up to 2 A330s from AV and that T0 will deploy them first on the LIM-MIA-LIM and LIM-EZE-LIM routes.
Apologies for the off-topic comment.

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RE: LAN To Strengthen The LIM Hub With New Frequencies

Thu Feb 02, 2012 3:52 am

Its great to see the LAN is has been successful in Peru. Unfortunately LAN Ecuador is falling apart with flight cuts, and massive layoffs just this month.
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RE: LAN To Strengthen The LIM Hub With New Frequencies

Thu Feb 02, 2012 4:00 am

Quoting airplane (Reply 29):
Unfortunately LAN Ecuador is falling apart with flight cuts, and massive layoffs just this month.

LAN Ecuador is not falling apart and only 55 employees will be laid off, (mostly cabin crew). The flight cuts include reverting the UIO-GYE-EZE route back to 5x weekly, reducing the UIO-CUE route from 14x weekly to 12x weekly, and closing the GYE-MIA route in April; which operates 5x weekly. LAN Ecuador will increase frequency on the UIO-MIA route from 6x weekly to daily. PAX traveling on the GYE-MIA route will still have that option via the new code-share agreement with AA.
 
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RE: LAN To Strengthen The LIM Hub With New Frequencies

Thu Feb 02, 2012 4:33 am

Quoting SCL767 (Reply 30):
LAN Ecuador is not falling apart and only 55 employees will be laid off, (mostly cabin crew). The flight cuts include reverting the UIO-GYE-EZE route back to 5x weekly, reducing the UIO-CUE route from 14x weekly to 12x weekly, and closing the GYE-MIA route in April; which operates 5x weekly. LAN Ecuador will increase frequency on the UIO-MIA route from 6x weekly to daily. PAX traveling on the GYE-MIA route will still have that option via the new code-share agreement with AA.

55 out of nearly 300 cabin crew is a lot.
Domestics did needed the cut.
The GYE-MIA is a great route but it needs a better schedule. Thats why AA 2 daily from UIO and 2 from GYE. Axing the route is a lot.

Since the planes are going back from HC reg. to CC reg., will they keep all the maintenance staff and facilities ?

The cancellation of the fuel benefit for Ecuadorean airlines hit everyone hard. I hope LAN overcomes these problems and stays in Ecuador for good, and shows everyone that they really wanted to build a great airline and not use Ecuador just as a cheap gas station.
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RE: LAN To Strengthen The LIM Hub With New Frequencies

Thu Feb 02, 2012 4:55 am

Quoting airplane (Reply 33):
The GYE-MIA is a great route but it needs a better schedule. Thats why AA 2 daily from UIO and 2 from GYE. Axing the route is a lot.

LAN Ecuador is only dropping four weekly frequencies to the U.S. and two weekly frequencies to Argentina. AA operates MIA-GYE 10x weekly, (B763 daily and B738 3x weekly) and LA operates SCL-GYE-CCS-MIA weekly. LAN Ecuador will continue to operate GYE-JFK, GYE-LIM, GYE-MAD, GYE-SCL, etc. all on a daily basis. The UIO-MIA route will revert back to a daily service.

Quoting airplane (Reply 33):
Since the planes are going back from HC reg. to CC reg., will they keep all the maintenance staff and facilities ?

In order to receive the fuel subsidy, LAN Ecuador had to register its a/c with Ecuadorian registrations. Since Ecuadorian carriers will no longer receive the fuel subsidy, LAN Ecuador no longer has to operate a/c with Ecuadorian registrations. LAN Ecuador is not going anywhere and has the potential to grow its regional operations. For example, LAN Ecuador does not operate into any Colombian cities and routes such as GYE-BOG and UIO-BOG are being examined by LAN Ecuador and LAN Colombia.
 
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RE: LAN To Strengthen The LIM Hub With New Frequencies

Thu Feb 02, 2012 5:00 am

Quoting SCL767 (Reply 28):
The A-340-313X will operate on the SCL-LIM-LAX route twice weekly starting on April 17TH through early July



LA 600....SCL 21:15.........00:01+1 LIM 01:10.........08:05 LAX.....Mo, Th, Sa.........340
LA 601....LAX 13:25.........00:01+1 LIM 01:15.........05:40 SCL.....Tu, Fr, Su...........340

The transitory LA SCL-LIM-LAX 3x weekly with 343 will operate until July 04th.


Source: OneWorld timetables.



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RE: LAN To Strengthen The LIM Hub With New Frequencies

Thu Feb 02, 2012 6:43 am

Quoting SJOtoLIR (Reply 35):
The transitory LA SCL-LIM-LAX 3x weekly with 343 will operate until July 04th.

Yes, that is correct. Also, LP is increasing frequencies on several domestic routes as well. For example, both the LIM-IQT and LIM-PIU routes now operate 5x daily. LP would like to serve each domestic destination with at least three daily flights.
 
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RE: LAN To Strengthen The LIM Hub With New Frequencies

Thu Feb 02, 2012 11:38 am

Quoting SCL767 (Reply 28):

It's a transitional arrangement as LAN takes delivery of new B-767-316ERs this year. The A-340-313X will operate on the SCL-LIM-LAX route twice weekly starting on April 17TH through early July. LAN planned on receiving 7 new B-767-316ERs this year, however LAN will now receive 9 new B-767-316ERs this year. Also, as a result, LAN Perú will now receive more than 2 new B-767-316ERs later this year.

LAN will get 9 B763 but will return 2 to lessors, so the net increase of aircraft will be 7. Anyway, it's a big increase. LAN wants one to be deployed in EZE, but the Argentinian Government doesn't want yet. I think 2-3 could go to LAN Colombia, other 2 to LAN Perú and the final one to LAN for the whole system.
 
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RE: LAN To Strengthen The LIM Hub With New Frequencies

Thu Feb 02, 2012 2:02 pm

Quoting SCL767 (Reply 32):
LAN hasn't revealed any plans to open any new routes to North America this year as yet.

I wish that LA would add IAD! They have talked about it for years, but so far, they haven't done it. A daily SCL-LIM-IAD flight on a 763 would be wonderful.
 
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RE: LAN To Strengthen The LIM Hub With New Frequencies

Fri Feb 03, 2012 1:20 am

Quoting SCL767 (Thread starter):
On February 2, 2012, LAN Perú will launch LIM-HAV 3x weekly, (A-319).


TA LIM-HAV is 6x weekly nowadays and their frequencies were upgraded last year trying to prevent the incursion of LP LIM-HAV thrice a week.

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RE: LAN To Strengthen The LIM Hub With New Frequencies

Fri Feb 03, 2012 2:13 am

Quoting SJOtoLIR (Reply 40):
TA LIM-HAV is 6x weekly nowadays and their frequencies were upgraded last year trying to prevent the incursion of LP LIM-HAV thrice a week.

TA won't deter LAN from growing its domestic, regional, and long-haul operations at LIM. LAN continues to grow its international operations at LIM by scheduling 26 new weekly frequencies, with some frequencies starting this month. LP indeed launched the LIM-HAV route 3x weekly today. Also, LAN Perú continues to increase frequencies on domestic routes with-in Perú.

New International Frequencies From LIM:
LIM-CUN+2
LIM-HAV+3
LIM-IPC+2
LIM-GRU+3
LIM-JFK+4
LIM-LAX+3
LIM-MEX+1
LIM-MIA+4
LIM-PUJ+2
LIM-SFO+1
LIM-UIO+1

LAN PERÚ YA VUELA DIRECTAMENTE A ISLA DE PASCUA Y LA HABANA
http://bit.ly/w6vmjx

Interesting article about LAN's business model:
When One Business Model Isn't Enough
 
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RE: LAN To Strengthen The LIM Hub With New Frequencies

Sat Feb 04, 2012 2:26 am

Quoting SCL767 (Reply 41):
TA won't deter LAN from growing its domestic, regional, and long-haul operations at LIM


LP LIM-BSB couldn't sustain that service.
TA LIM-BSB is now happy due to the lack of competition in such route.

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RE: LAN To Strengthen The LIM Hub With New Frequencies

Sat Feb 04, 2012 2:35 am

Quoting SJOtoLIR (Reply 42):
TA LIM-BSB is now happy due to the lack of competition in such route.

That's great for TA; however LAN will continue to increase services into Brazil. TA has a long way to go at LIM when it comes to competing with LAN Perú on many domestic, regional, and long-haul routes.
 
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RE: LAN To Strengthen The LIM Hub With New Frequencies

Sat Feb 04, 2012 2:39 am

Quoting SCL767 (Reply 43):
That's great for TA; however LAN will continue to increase services into Brazil. TA has a long way to go at LIM when it comes to competing with LAN Perú on many domestic, regional, and long-haul routes.

well I think they are already in a good competion, maybe with smaller aircrafts but with a good product,
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RE: LAN To Strengthen The LIM Hub With New Frequencies

Sat Feb 04, 2012 3:07 am

Quoting SCL767 (Reply 43):
That's great for TA; however LAN will continue to increase services into Brazil


Having said that, what happened with the planned LIM-GIG service on either LP or JJ?
TA LIM-GIG is active since July 2008 and they've also enjoyed the lack of competition in almost four long years.  

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RE: LAN To Strengthen The LIM Hub With New Frequencies

Sat Feb 04, 2012 3:10 am

Quoting SJOtoLIR (Reply 45):
TA LIM-GIG is active since July 2008 and they've also enjoyed the lack of competition in almost four long years.

I think we are all waiting that TA is upgrading the service to double daily
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RE: LAN To Strengthen The LIM Hub With New Frequencies

Sat Feb 04, 2012 3:17 am

Quoting SJOtoLIR (Reply 45):
Having said that, what happened with the planned LIM-GIG service on either LP or JJ?

It appears that LAN is primarily focused on consolidating its operations at GRU from LIM by boosting frequencies into that extremely important hub; thus LAN-TAM will soon offer 3 daily non-stop flights between LIM and GRU compared to TA's 11 weekly flights. IMO, to think that LAN will not launch new services into other Brazilian airports from LIM is a bit naive; especially after LAN merges with TAM...
 
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RE: LAN To Strengthen The LIM Hub With New Frequencies

Sat Feb 04, 2012 5:21 am

Quoting SJOtoLIR (Reply 42):
LP LIM-BSB couldn't sustain that service.
TA LIM-BSB is now happy due to the lack of competition in such route.

I think that the LIM-BSB-LIM route could be resumed this year by LA/JJ as part of the merger between them.

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RE: LAN To Strengthen The LIM Hub With New Frequencies

Sat Feb 04, 2012 6:24 am

LIM-DFW or BOG-DFW would be nice on LAN or AA with good OneWorld alliance connectivity in DFW. Perhaps AA will give it a try post bankruptcy?
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RE: LAN To Strengthen The LIM Hub With New Frequencies

Sat Feb 04, 2012 6:56 am

Quoting Super80DFW (Reply 49):
LIM-DFW or BOG-DFW would be nice on LAN or AA with good OneWorld alliance connectivity in DFW. Perhaps AA will give it a try post bankruptcy?

It looks like both LAN and AA are aggressively adding more frequencies between South America and the U.S. with LAN adding frequencies from BOG, LIM, SCL and UIO; whereas AA is focusing on Brazil. Coincidence...

LAN adds frequencies to the U.S. from BOG, LIM, SCL, and UIO:

BOG-MIA+4
LIM-JFK+4
LIM-LAX+3
LIM-MIA+4
LIM-SFO+1
SCL-MIA+1
UIO-MIA+1

AA adds more frequencies to Brazil during the Southern Winter Season from DFW and MIA and plans on deploying the B77W on the DFW-GRU route:

MIA-BSB+2
MIA-CNF+4
MIA-MAO+7
DFW-GRU+5

Also, TAM plans on deploying the B77W on the GRU-MIA route later this year.
 
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RE: LAN To Strengthen The LIM Hub With New Frequencies

Sat Feb 04, 2012 7:28 am

Quoting SCL767 (Reply 50):
It looks like both LAN and AA are aggressively adding more frequencies between South America and the U.S.

You forgot to mention that the GYE-MIA route is being axed altogether.
 
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RE: LAN To Strengthen The LIM Hub With New Frequencies

Sat Feb 04, 2012 12:10 pm

Quoting SCL767 (Reply 50):
LAN adds frequencies to the U.S. from BOG, LIM, SCL, and UIO:

BOG-MIA+4

A bit misleading, actually they dropped 7x BOG-FLL and changed them for 4x BOG-MIA.

It was a net drop of 3 weekly frequencies from BOG to south florida. But honestly, I think is more logicla than anything, tehre's no sense in keeping FLL and waste all the potential that AA at MIA, can provide in terms of connectivity.
Next flights: AV BOG-ADZ-BOG, AV-UA BOG-IAD-ORD-IAD-BOG, BOG-FLL-BOG, LA BOG-MIA-BOG J
 
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RE: LAN To Strengthen The LIM Hub With New Frequencies

Sat Feb 04, 2012 9:52 pm

Quoting 777jaah (Reply 56):
It was a net drop of 3 weekly frequencies from BOG to south florida. But honestly, I think is more logical than anything, there's no sense in keeping FLL and waste all the potential that AA at MIA, can provide in terms of connectivity.


The existence of LAN (BOG-FLL) 7x weekly came from the former Aires era.

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RE: LAN To Strengthen The LIM Hub With New Frequencies

Sat Feb 04, 2012 10:05 pm

Quoting SJOtoLIR (Reply 57):
The existence of LAN (BOG-FLL) 7x weekly came from the former Aires era.

Everybody knows that.
But it is also true that the new flight to MIA is really a swap from FLL -and with less frequencies at at-
 
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RE: LAN To Strengthen The LIM Hub With New Frequencies

Sun Feb 05, 2012 1:16 pm

I see that the recovery of LIM-CTG that had been talked about for last months never actually materialised. Nor the recovery of LIM-UIO-MDE frequencies that got reduced to 4 weekly a few months ago, where TA, operated by Aerogal with a better product has clearly won the preference of customers on the route and so it remains daily.
 
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RE: LAN To Strengthen The LIM Hub With New Frequencies

Sun Feb 05, 2012 2:29 pm

Quoting SJOtoLIR (Reply 45):
TA LIM-GIG is active since July 2008 and they've also enjoyed the lack of competition in almost four long years.
Quoting Avianca (Reply 46):
I think we are all waiting that TA is upgrading the service to double daily

Well, BOG-GIG was given preference over more LIM-GIG.
 
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RE: LAN To Strengthen The LIM Hub With New Frequencies

Sun Feb 05, 2012 2:30 pm

Quoting SCL767 (Reply 63):

He was just mentioning the connections that other airlines provide. And pointing out that LIM-CTG was supposed to be operating again. Instead of just complaining, could you just elaborate and tell us (well, just if you know) why it wasn't re-launched? I'd be happy to know... (no sarcasm)

Quoting SCL767 (Reply 63):
Perhaps you should create a thread about AV-TA's growth at LIM and elsewhere since it adds nothing to this thread, which pertains to LAN operated services.

Did I just read right?  I wonder just about how many threads you should've started when you gloat about LAN in other airlines threads, and its not just a few threads, unfortunately, they are many.  
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RE: LAN To Strengthen The LIM Hub With New Frequencies

Sun Feb 05, 2012 2:42 pm

Quoting Summa767 (Reply 64):

Quoting SCL767 (Reply 63):
Also, this thread is about LAN increasing frequencies and not about the AV-TA group.

Actually, I think it is also important to note that LAN has decreased frequencies in certain markets and that have *not* been recovered.

It's also important to note that LAN has resumed certain services that were cut last year and continues to increase frequencies on many domestic, regional, and long-haul routes, as well as launching new routes. Also, LAN may resume other services that were suspended from LIM this year as well. It's amusing how you seem to forget that AV has dropped certain frequencies from BOG and TA has also dropped routes and decreased frequencies on certain routes from LIM! The point is that LAN is continuing to grow; for example the LIM-SCL route operates 8x daily, the LIM-ROS route just increased to a daily service and is staying, the LIM-GRU route will increase to 2x daily, the LIM-CUN and LIM-PUJ routes both increased to daily services. The LIM-MIA route will increase to 17x weekly, the LIM-LAX route will increase to 13x weekly, LAN Perú just launched LIM-HAV 3x weekly, LAN Perú will launch LIM-JFK 4x weekly, etc. The SCL-GIG route will increase to 2x daily year-round, the SCL-MVD route increased to 16x weekly, the SCL-EZE route will increase to 50x weekly, the SCL-COR route will increase to 2x daily, the SCL-BOG route recently increased to 4x weekly, the SCL-MIA route will increase to 2x daily on a year-round basis, LAN is even operating SCL-LAX 3x weekly since last year for the high season. The SCL-IPC route also increased to 9x weekly this month, the LIM-IPC route has resumed and will operate twice weekly on a year-round basis, etc.
 
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RE: LAN To Strengthen The LIM Hub With New Frequencies

Mon Feb 06, 2012 1:52 am

Quoting Summa767 (Reply 72):
Yes, selectively. Like "forgetting" to mention that BOG-MIA was at the expense of FLL -and with less frequencies, no mention at all (until I brought the topic to this forum) of LAN's Ecuador's reductions, and the savage sacking of 60 staff, and of course the setback in 787s deliveries this year.

Could it maybe be that LAN wanted to open MIA as soon as possible and by supplementing the LA 767 flights they could offer and almost daily operation and use more efficiently the existing airplanes? Aren't airplanes now a days a difficult commodity for many airlines that are growing? What is savage sacking in your opinion? But what I read on what you published sounded just like the European and American companies tend to do in order to restore order as soon as the reorganization has taken place. That is actually been proven by thousands of companies worldwide as the best way to do it, as the employee that has been laid off can look forward as soon as possible and the companies can return to "normality" as soon as possible. Nothing different than what BA does normally in the UK. Obviously it does hurt if you are being fired and obviously the article is more than tainted by hurt by those that were fired, so far from a non-biased article. And finally have you thought that the delay of the aircraft might be linked to the unsolved issue of the final weight of these aircraft.

So no, looking at a half empty glass is the only way of looking at things. There many of us that tend to look at the world through the half full glass. I can assure you although it may not be the correct answer, looking life through a positive angle can shed a different light into the future.
 
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RE: LAN To Strengthen The LIM Hub With New Frequencies

Mon Feb 06, 2012 2:28 am

Quoting Bogota (Reply 80):
Aren't airplanes now a days a difficult commodity for many airlines that are growing?

Luckily, LAN sold its entire fleet of A-318s and AV will receive 5 A-318s from LAN this year. This year, LAN will receive 12 new A-320 family a/c, (including LAN's first A-321 a/c), in order to increase capacity on several domestic and regional routes.

Quoting Bogota (Reply 80):
That is actually been proven by thousands of companies worldwide as the best way to do it, as the employee that has been laid off can look forward as soon as possible and the companies can return to "normality" as soon as possible.

Interestingly, LAN Ecuador recently applied with the Peruvian DGAC to operate UIO-LIM-SCL and/or GYE-LIM-SCL with Fifth Freedom Rights on the LIM-SCL sector, utilizing either the A-320 or B763.

Also, LAN Perú S.A. recently applied with the Peruvian DGAC to renew its operating permits to operate LIM-BSB, LIM-CWB, LIM-GIG, LIM-IAD, LIM-IGU and/or CUZ-IGU; which were all approved!
 
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RE: LAN To Strengthen The LIM Hub With New Frequencies

Mon Feb 06, 2012 3:33 pm

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