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Air Asia X Returns To LGW

Mon Feb 06, 2012 1:49 pm

Has there ever been a case of where an airline quits a route, only to return a couple of weeks later ?

The question concerns Air Asia X which recently announced it would cease flying between KUL, ORY and LGW at the end of March.

But seemingly there are so many passengers which it cannot rebook onto other carriers because of lack of availability near to Easter that, in an unusual move, Air Asia X is reinstating flights to LGW on two dates in April: the 14th and the 16th. Flights on both dates are displayed on its website and are open for booking.

I assume that these two flights have been slot-approved by LGW ?
 
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RE: Air Asia X Returns To LGW

Mon Feb 06, 2012 2:05 pm

That is very bizarre. I wonder how many people couldn't be rebooked - obviously not enough to fill an A330!
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RE: Air Asia X Returns To LGW

Mon Feb 06, 2012 2:17 pm

I suppose Air Asia X would try, in the first instance, to protect its pax with MAS. Other alternative (bear in mind that MAS has a monopoly of KUL-London from April 1) carriers might be too expensive or not have the capacity.
 
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RE: Air Asia X Returns To LGW

Mon Feb 06, 2012 2:20 pm

I suspect they are all QPR fans and Tony doesn't want to cheese them off!  
 
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RE: Air Asia X Returns To LGW

Mon Feb 06, 2012 3:19 pm

I must say that whenever I checked their fares, I didn't find them very competitive. The difference between them and MH was minimal & for the added benefit of increased leg room, complimentary food, beverages, entertainment etc, MH was the better choice.

How many low cost long haul routes does actually leave now? Must be true what people say, the long haul low cost does not work..
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RE: Air Asia X Returns To LGW

Mon Feb 06, 2012 4:39 pm

Quoting raffik (Reply 4):
Must be true what people say, the long haul low cost does not work..

Cebu obviously haven't heard the "people" talking

I think this is actually quite an honourable stance by Air Asia X. Their co-operation agreement with MAS provided that MAS take-on the advanced bookings on this now defunct route. There is clearly an Easter blip and its good to see an airline honouring its comitment to passengers
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RE: Air Asia X Returns To LGW

Mon Feb 06, 2012 11:23 pm

Bit of a misleading thread...

The title makes it sound like the airline is re-instating the route. Obviously not and just adding a couple of additional frequencies added, before the routes does get the chop.
 
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RE: Air Asia X Returns To LGW

Mon Feb 06, 2012 11:33 pm

Sounds like a sensible thing to do, if remaining seat capacity is low, or if seat costs too high. Good on Air Asia X for using their own aircraft to mop up the remains.

I am just glad that I booked a seat selection on my MAS trip to the UK just after Easter.
 
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RE: Air Asia X Returns To LGW

Tue Feb 07, 2012 12:13 am

Do they interline with any of the other airlines serving the route? Many low cost carriers do not. If they don't interline and have no agreements with some of the other airlines, then they are stuck paying published fares for the route. I am guessing that with how high the published fares are, it is cheaper to operate the route on a few select dates.

Quoting raffik (Reply 1):


That is very bizarre. I wonder how many people couldn't be rebooked - obviously not enough to fill an A330!

I don't think it is the case of lack of seats, but rather lack of seats at prices that Air Asia X is willing to pay or interline agreements with airlines.
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RE: Air Asia X Returns To LGW

Tue Feb 07, 2012 9:27 am

Quoting raffik (Reply 4):
How many low cost long haul routes does actually leave now? Must be true what people say, the long haul low cost does not work..

It doesn't work brilliantly because there are fewer areas where costs can be cut - shorthaul LCCs can save money compared to legacies by flying to smaller fields (but you can't land a widebody at some remote spot with a tin shed for a terminal); by getting more flights a day out of one aircraft (but longhaul aircraft at legacy airlines have high utilisation rates anyway); by charging for meals (but people need food on a seven plus hour leg, whereas it's optional on a London to Amsterdam); by charging for bags (but people are more likely to be going away for enough time that they need to check a bag, so like food, a much higher percentage of punters will need to use this service, which, again, raises the cost to the punter towards that of a legacy). Etc.

Air Transat manage to run longhaul (transatlantic) low cost services, reliably £100 less than BA and Air Canada. On TS you get free checked bag and a hot meal, but they are able to save money by using older aeroplanes which have very low acquisition costs, very high density seating, and a very spartan interior (no entertainment etc). They run irregular schedules (like Allegient), really catering to demand so every flight is full. I am a big fan actually, and they pull off a trick very few LCCs survive at.
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