as739x
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Interesting Flightplans Into IND

Mon Feb 06, 2012 2:31 pm

So what gives with these deviated flightplans flying into IND? There appears to be no weather issue's and no active TFR's.

http://flightaware.com/live/flight/N140WW

http://flightaware.com/live/flight/AWE918

http://flightaware.com/live/flight/GTI8421
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nkops
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RE: Interesting Flightplans Into IND

Mon Feb 06, 2012 2:54 pm

Superbowl weekend in IND.. they probably see 4x the normal traffic so they do deviations to line up arrivals... IND actually had a GDP yesterday due to traffic volume even though weather was perfect
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rscaife1682
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RE: Interesting Flightplans Into IND

Mon Feb 06, 2012 5:44 pm

These were the route restriction into IND over the weekend.

http://www.faa.gov/air_traffic/publi...ons/notices/2012-01-12/SP11035.cfm

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as739x
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RE: Interesting Flightplans Into IND

Mon Feb 06, 2012 6:08 pm

Quoting rscaife1682 (Reply 2):

That's a TFR that is expired when these flight's were active.

Quoting NKOPS (Reply 1):

Understandable, but this was Monday morning an arrivals. This would have been when the airport was busy with departures. But looking at N140WW, that's one hell of a long flight for SDF-IND
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rfields5421
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RE: Interesting Flightplans Into IND

Mon Feb 06, 2012 6:26 pm

While there are two restricted airspace areas between SDF and IND - it looks like the aircraft are being sent wide of the several MOA in that area.

Don't know why, and they should not restrict high altitude jets - but it seems to me that is the area being kept free of those aircraft.

What about other flights? Were they normal, or a similar pattern?
 
as739x
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RE: Interesting Flightplans Into IND

Mon Feb 06, 2012 7:01 pm

Quoting rfields5421 (Reply 4):

Looks like just the arrivals from the SE.

An active MOA...that makes sense. Didn't even think to look at that in the area. Thanks as always fields!
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RE: Interesting Flightplans Into IND

Mon Feb 06, 2012 8:38 pm

They are Super Bowl volume re-routes. Normally, those flights you listed would file their arrival route as IIU DECEE4 arrival. However, for Super Bowl volume ATC requested south departures and no SID filings and for pilots and dispatchers to file IIU as their initial departure fix. In order to prevent arrival flow and departure flow from conflicting, ATC issued tactical re-routes both published and unpublished for flight thats normally file the arrivals such as IIU DECEE4 to transitions on other arrivals such as PXV RACYR1 and ROD CLANG5.

ATC does this all the time at major hub airports. ATC calls it offloading during normal ops. When one fix becomes constrained, ATC simply sends traffic to other less constrained fixes. In the summer, I had a CLT-JFK flight I filed MERIL4 MERIL RDU J209 ORF J121 SIE CAMRN4. There was a little bit of weather and a lot of JFK volume but no published CDR or playbook re-route but my guys were all given ZAVER2 VXV J43 ROD J29 DORET J584 LVZ LENDY5 by ATC on clearance. A very significant change for the CRJ200 in burn and fuel requirements especially when you have no advanced notice of such a major re-route.

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