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Interesting UA EWR Crossfleeting Changes For May

Tue Feb 14, 2012 8:23 pm

So it looks like they uploaded some of the schedules for May:

EWR: 5/10/12

SAN: 1x 757
BOS: 1x 320, 1x 757
LAX: 1x 319
SEA: 1x 757
LAS: 1x 320
MCO: 1x 757
MIA: 1x 320
SFO: 3x 757, 1x 319
DEN: 1x 757, 1x 320
CLE: 3x 320

That's all I could find thus far -- feel free to contribute. Very excited that EWR-BOS is a 757. A big plane for a really short flight.
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RE: Interesting UA EWR Crossfleeting Changes For May

Tue Feb 14, 2012 8:30 pm

Quoting TOMMY767 (Thread starter):
EWR: 5/10/12

SAN: 1x 757
BOS: 1x 320, 1x 757
LAX: 1x 319
SEA: 1x 757
LAS: 1x 320
MCO: 1x 757
MIA: 1x 320
SFO: 3x 757, 1x 319
DEN: 1x 757, 1x 320
CLE: 3x 320

That's all I could find thus far -- feel free to contribute. Very excited that EWR-BOS is a 757. A big plane for a really short flight.

Many of them look like trunk routes. Guess it coincides with putting PMCO 753s to Hawaii and shifting UA planes over, which sucks for the elites because PMUA planes have smaller F cabin in general for UDU.
 
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RE: Interesting UA EWR Crossfleeting Changes For May

Tue Feb 14, 2012 8:43 pm

Quoting mogandoCI (Reply 1):

Not seeing any 753s on LAX/SFO-Hawaii yet. Only 738s...

EWR-AUA still shows up as a 753 in May, for instance.
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RE: Interesting UA EWR Crossfleeting Changes For May

Tue Feb 14, 2012 8:53 pm

Quoting TOMMY767 (Reply 2):

We had one flying SFO-HNL last week for a few days. But I believe it was subbed for a 764 as we are seeing it again.

Was there a 764 down for maint?
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RE: Interesting UA EWR Crossfleeting Changes For May

Tue Feb 14, 2012 9:28 pm

Quoting mogandoCI (Reply 1):
Many of them look like trunk routes. Guess it coincides with putting PMCO 753s to Hawaii and shifting UA planes over, which sucks for the elites because PMUA planes have smaller F cabin in general for UDU.

The good news is that the UA 757s have 24F, which is more F seats than any CO narrowbody save for the 753 with 24F as well. The 320 is a loss of F seats over 738/9 and the 319 is even smaller, but it's nice to see a lot more sUA 757 flying from EWR.

Quoting TOMMY767 (Reply 2):

Not seeing any 753s on LAX/SFO-Hawaii yet. Only 738s...

In May I believe the 767s are still on, but toward August the 753s transition to Hawaii. I don't know if they plan to upgrade the original CO 757-324s to ETOPS standard.
 
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RE: Interesting UA EWR Crossfleeting Changes For May

Tue Feb 14, 2012 9:30 pm

Looks like EWR-SXM has gone to a 320.
 
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RE: Interesting UA EWR Crossfleeting Changes For May

Tue Feb 14, 2012 9:32 pm

I honestly don't know what people find so fascinating with such cross fleeting?

As time goes on and we saw with DL/NW there will be ever more of this.

What you see in May however is a tiny fraction as the scheduling folks "held back" with a much more intertwined schedules planned for the late fall.
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RE: Interesting UA EWR Crossfleeting Changes For May

Tue Feb 14, 2012 9:40 pm

It makes sense to see 757s starting service to EWR (I'm assuming these are PMUA with 24F). SFO, SEA and DEN are all 757 bases, so it makes sense that the crossfleeting will start from those airports. BOS and MCO can be added to a transcon trip within crew duty times. With direct flights to UA crew bases, there isn't additional overhead of having to put up a whole lot of UA crews at EWR.

I also expect more PMUA A320s and A319s to be operated out of EWR to low cost vacation destinations since the PMUA aircraft have smaller first class cabins and a higher percentage of Economy seats since to airports like LAS, first class seats go to relatively low tier elites.
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RE: Interesting UA EWR Crossfleeting Changes For May

Tue Feb 14, 2012 9:52 pm

Quoting metsfan1 (Reply 5):

It's been operating a 320 since October and november. Ditto the 777 on BRU and 763 on ZRH
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RE: Interesting UA EWR Crossfleeting Changes For May

Tue Feb 14, 2012 9:55 pm

Quoting Roseflyer (Reply 7):
I also expect more PMUA A320s and A319s to be operated out of EWR to low cost vacation destinations since the PMUA aircraft have smaller first class cabins and a higher percentage of Economy seats since to airports like LAS, first class seats go to relatively low tier elites.

EWR-LAS sees a PMUA 757 in April and a 320 in May.

But you bring up a great point. All of these 757 services out of EWR filter through existing UA 757 crew bases: SEA, BOS, LAX, SFO, DEN, LAS. SAN and MCO are the only exceptions.

Also to note which I think is interesting is LAX-CLE becomes a PMUA 757 starting in May.
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RE: Interesting UA EWR Crossfleeting Changes For May

Tue Feb 14, 2012 9:59 pm

Quoting Roseflyer (Reply 7):

NYC is also a 757/767 base for UA, so the trips don't necessarily have to be crewed by West Coast-based pilots. A number of JFK-based (but cover trips from all three NYC airport) UA pilots are at DENTK in the process of upgrading to the 756 fleet in preparation for additional cross-fleeting.

[Edited 2012-02-14 14:00:09]
 
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RE: Interesting UA EWR Crossfleeting Changes For May

Wed Feb 15, 2012 1:28 pm

It's a great move to replace the 767-300s with 757-300s on the West Coast-Hawaii routes, thus freeing up those 763s for international routes. My concern is the loss in capacity in the domestic network from the relocation of the 753s, CO/UA has 21 757-300s of which 12 are ETOPs (former ATA). With the 753s operating West Coast Hawaii perhaps they can fit in turns to DEN and perhaps IAH in between, for example;

757-300

IAH-LAX-HNL
DEN-LAX-KOA etc..

I'm most concerned about, selfishly, EWR-Florida. During the peak months CO has been running 9 daily 757-300s EWR-MCO, as well as multiple 753s to FLL and PBI. Back in the '80s and '90s CO was operating similar frequencies with their A300s from EWR to Florida. I'm hoping they will be able to maintain the 757-300s on EWR-Florida, especially during the major school breaks (Thanksgiving, Christmas, Easter) etc.. Even if they could fit in a wide body turn or two between EWR and MCO during Christmas and Easter in between Trans-Atlantic flights.
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RE: Interesting UA EWR Crossfleeting Changes For May

Wed Feb 15, 2012 2:38 pm

Quoting STT757 (Reply 11):
I'm most concerned about, selfishly, EWR-Florida. During the peak months CO has been running 9 daily 757-300s EWR-MCO, as well as multiple 753s to FLL and PBI. Back in the '80s and '90s CO was operating similar frequencies with their A300s from EWR to Florida. I'm hoping they will be able to maintain the 757-300s on EWR-Florida, especially during the major school breaks (Thanksgiving, Christmas, Easter) etc.. Even if they could fit in a wide body turn or two between EWR and MCO during Christmas and Easter in between Trans-Atlantic flights.

It's not selfish it's just not as realisitic as it used to be. I don't think UA really wants to be running widebodies on EWR to Florida. Not even DL flies 767s on ATL-MCO anymore affter years and years of service. I'd look more for a widebody to pop up on EWR-SFO or EWR-LAX -- mainly for repositioning.

If UA is so sold on taking 763s off LAX/SFO-Hawaii there is going to have to be greater frequency to match demand. They are taking away a lot of seats by removing the 767s. At least SFO should still see a domestic 777 on SFO-HNL.

If you look at the EWR-MCO schedules for may, you will notice that it's 10-11x daily with majority being 757 on the route --both PMUA and PMCO.

I would think FLL would retain the 753. Kind of a given actually.

EWR - MIA, TPA, and PBI get at least 1x 757 a day but certainly down from what they used to have in the early 2000s.

EWR - RSW is mainly 738 and 739.
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RE: Interesting UA EWR Crossfleeting Changes For May

Wed Feb 15, 2012 2:46 pm

Quoting TOMMY767 (Reply 12):
I don't think UA really wants to be running widebodies on EWR to Florida. Not even DL flies 767s on ATL-MCO anymore affter years and years of service. I'd look more for a widebody to pop up on EWR-SFO or EWR-LAX -- mainly for repositioning.



During Christmas I flew PHL-MCO on a US 767-200, while the aircraft was definitely showing it's age it was a nice experience. I've flown on a lot of widebodies over the years between EWR/JFK/LGA and PHL to Florida:

Eastern A300s, L1011s - Pan Am DC-10s, L1011s - DL L1011s- Continental A300s- US 767-200 etc..

While I'm not asking for a return to the good ol'e days of multiple domestic widebodies, I think a rotation or two of widebodies, that would otherwise be sitting on the ground at EWR, to Florida during 2-4 weeks of the year is not unrealistic.

In 2007 I was in Orlando during New Jersey school's Easter break, I flew on CO 757-300s both ways but some of the frequencies that week were 764s.

[Edited 2012-02-15 06:49:54]
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RE: Interesting UA EWR Crossfleeting Changes For May

Wed Feb 15, 2012 2:51 pm

Quoting STT757 (Reply 13):

Time will tell. Many doubted EWR-BOS would ever be a PMUA 757 but alas...
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RE: Interesting UA EWR Crossfleeting Changes For May

Wed Feb 15, 2012 2:53 pm

Quoting TOMMY767 (Reply 14):
Time will tell. Many doubted EWR-BOS would ever be a PMUA 757 but alas...

I remember when EWR-BOS was 23 daily flights, all MD-80s. Not too long ago.
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RE: Interesting UA EWR Crossfleeting Changes For May

Wed Feb 15, 2012 2:54 pm

Quoting STT757 (Reply 11):
I'm most concerned about, selfishly, EWR-Florida.

They'll move capacity to the Florida market as needed. Even if the domestic 763s are replaced on a one-for-one basis, UA still has 8 753s to work with, which will likely flow around the network where demand is highest. In the meantime, sUA 757s are a welcome addition to the EWR-Florida network.
 
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RE: Interesting UA EWR Crossfleeting Changes For May

Wed Feb 15, 2012 3:17 pm

Most New Jersey schools have March 31st-April 9th off for Easter break, checking the schedules:

April 2nd (Monday) EWR-MCO

4 737-800
1 737-900
4 757-200 (3 PMCO + 1 PMUA)
1 757-300

10 daily ( 9 PMCO + 1 PMUA aircraft)

April 8th (Sunday) EWR-MCO:

1 737-800
3 737-900
5 757-200
1 757-300

11 daily (all PMCO aircraft)
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RE: Interesting UA EWR Crossfleeting Changes For May

Wed Feb 15, 2012 3:23 pm

Quoting CODC10 (Reply 16):
They'll move capacity to the Florida market as needed. Even if the domestic 763s are replaced on a one-for-one basis, UA still has 8 753s to work with, which will likely flow around the network where demand is highest. In the meantime, sUA 757s are a welcome addition to the EWR-Florida network.

Sure thing. The PMUA 757s will be operating mainly to EWR-MIA/MCO in April and May. The thing is FLL and PBI are no longer UA stations (PMUA since the mid 2000s) so I don't think they are going to be operating the 75's to these destinations as of yet.

But the 753s will probably still be on routes like EWR/IAH-FLL. Would be shocked to see the 753s leave FLL.
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RE: Interesting UA EWR Crossfleeting Changes For May

Wed Feb 15, 2012 6:19 pm

Quoting TOMMY767 (Thread starter):

LAX: 1x 319
SFO: 3x 757, 1x 319

A bit disappointed that we're still seeing narrowbody only on these "trunk" routes.
 
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RE: Interesting UA EWR Crossfleeting Changes For May

Wed Feb 15, 2012 6:27 pm

Quoting TOMMY767 (Reply 9):
But you bring up a great point. All of these 757 services out of EWR filter through existing UA 757 crew bases: SEA, BOS, LAX, SFO, DEN, LAS. SAN and MCO are the only exceptions.

UA has a JFK 757 base that covers EWR and LGA.
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RE: Interesting UA EWR Crossfleeting Changes For May

Wed Feb 15, 2012 6:55 pm

Quoting N1120A (Reply 20):

I thought PMUA 757 NYC crews could only fly out of LGA/JFK since they closed the EWR base in 2006?
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RE: Interesting UA EWR Crossfleeting Changes For May

Wed Feb 15, 2012 7:05 pm

Have I been living under a rock for the past few years? I thought PMUA operated EWR-SFO/LAX/DEN with A3xx and 757's. Maybe I'm missing the point here.
 
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RE: Interesting UA EWR Crossfleeting Changes For May

Wed Feb 15, 2012 7:11 pm

Quoting bohica (Reply 22):
I thought PMUA operated EWR-SFO/LAX/DEN with A3xx and 757's

Not for the past few years. They stopped LAX, drew down SFO to sometimes a mere 319 in the early morning or late evening. DEN usually had a handful of flights on A3xx / 757.
 
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RE: Interesting UA EWR Crossfleeting Changes For May

Wed Feb 15, 2012 7:28 pm

Quoting Roseflyer (Reply 7):
It makes sense to see 757s starting service to EWR (I'm assuming these are PMUA with 24F). SFO, SEA and DEN are all 757 bases, so it makes sense that the crossfleeting will start from those airports. BOS and MCO can be added to a transcon trip within crew duty times. With direct flights to UA crew bases, there isn't additional overhead of having to put up a whole lot of UA crews at EWR.

I also expect more PMUA A320s and A319s to be operated out of EWR to low cost vacation destinations since the PMUA aircraft have smaller first class cabins and a higher percentage of Economy seats since to airports like LAS, first class seats go to relatively low tier elites.

I'm flying SEA-EWR-SEA APR 11-17 and both flight are 757-200 with 16 BusinessFirst Flat Bed Seats.
 
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RE: Interesting UA EWR Crossfleeting Changes For May

Wed Feb 15, 2012 8:25 pm

Quoting N62NA (Reply 23):
Not for the past few years. They stopped LAX, drew down SFO to sometimes a mere 319 in the early morning or late evening. DEN usually had a handful of flights on A3xx / 757.

Now they are back to multiple PMUA 757s on EWR-SFO/DEN.

CO flies their BF 757s on EWR-LAX/SFO

Quoting BACCALA (Reply 24):

that becomes PMUA 757 in may
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RE: Interesting UA EWR Crossfleeting Changes For May

Wed Feb 15, 2012 8:31 pm

Quoting TOMMY767 (Reply 21):

I thought PMUA 757 NYC crews could only fly out of LGA/JFK since they closed the EWR base in 2006?

The JFK base can and will be covering EWR 757 and 767 trips very soon. As I mentioned, there are a number of UAL JFK pilots upgrading to the B756 fleet at DENTK presently.
 
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RE: Interesting UA EWR Crossfleeting Changes For May

Wed Feb 15, 2012 11:09 pm

Quoting N62NA (Reply 23):
Not for the past few years. They stopped LAX, drew down SFO to sometimes a mere 319 in the early morning or late evening. DEN usually had a handful of flights on A3xx / 757.

Thanks for the info. I guess I was still living in the past.
 
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RE: Interesting UA EWR Crossfleeting Changes For May

Thu Feb 16, 2012 5:11 pm

May 10, 2012:

CLE-MCO 3x daily A319
CLE-LGA 1 A319 (plus 7 ERJs)
CLE-EWR 1 A319 (plus 5 737s)
CLE-IAH 2 A319 (plus 4 737s)
CLE-LAS 1 A320, 1 737-800, 1 757-300
CLE-LAX 1 A320, 2 737-800
CLE-SFO 1 A319 (plus 1 737-900)

ORD-BOS 1 737-800 (plus 8 A319s/20s, 1 ERJ-170)
ORD-CMH 2 737-800 (plus 2 A319, 2 CRJ, 1 ERJ, 1 ERJ-170)
ORD-DEN 1 737-800, 1 757-300 (plus 2 A320, 5 757, 1 777)
ORD-DTW 1 737-800 (1 ERj, 5 CR7)
ORD-FLL 1 73G, 1 737-800
ORD-LAS 1 737-800, 1 757-300 (plus 1 A320, 4 757)
ORD-LAX 2 737-800, 1 737-900, 1 757-300 (plus 1 A319, 3 A320, 3 757)
ORD-MCO 1 737-500, 1 737-800, 1 737-900, 1 757-300 (plus 1 A320, 1 757)
ORD-PHL 1 737-800, 1 737-900 (plus 2 A320, 3 CR7)
ORD-PHX 1 737-800 (plus 1 A320, 1 757)
ORD-PIT 1 737-800 (plus 2 A320, 2 ERJ, 1 ERJ-170)
ORD-SMF 1 737-900 (plus 1 A320)
ORD-SFO 1 757-300 (plus 2 A319, 2 A320, 6 757, 3 767-300)
ORD-SEA 3 737-800 (plus 2 A320, 1 757)
ORD-YVR 1 73G (plus 1 A319, 2 A320)
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RE: Interesting UA EWR Crossfleeting Changes For May

Thu Feb 16, 2012 6:17 pm

At MSP they are implementing an unbalanced schedule. This sees a co 735 flying IAH-MSP (overnight)-ORD and a UA 320 flying ORD-MSP-IAH in the afternoon.
 
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RE: Interesting UA EWR Crossfleeting Changes For May

Thu Feb 16, 2012 6:52 pm

Quoting STT757 (Reply 28):

I think we need a master list. DEN, IAD, LAX, SFO, EWR, and IAH all seem to have equal amounts of cross fleeting.

For instance I notice a 73G will be on IAD-DFW come may.
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RE: Interesting UA EWR Crossfleeting Changes For May

Thu Feb 16, 2012 7:04 pm

Quoting TOMMY767 (Thread starter):
BOS: 1x 320, 1x 757

That's going to be wicked confusing up in BOS -- flights to EWR operating out of Terminal C.

Quoting TOMMY767 (Reply 12):
If UA is so sold on taking 763s off LAX/SFO-Hawaii there is going to have to be greater frequency to match demand.

Maybe yes, maybe no. The difference in seating capacity is 28 seats, and they may simply choose to sell fewer deeply-discounted seats.
 
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RE: Interesting UA EWR Crossfleeting Changes For May

Thu Feb 16, 2012 7:40 pm

Quoting ScottB (Reply 31):

Seems to be a 757 flight leaving EWR at 6:50pm and back to EWR at 6:50am

My guess is that 757 will do a turn to BOS-SFO and not sit on the ground at BOS wasting time until the next morning.
Then another 757 will come in from a redeye into BOS (LAX or SFO) and operate BOS-EWR at 6:50am

[Edited 2012-02-16 11:41:28]
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RE: Interesting UA EWR Crossfleeting Changes For May

Thu Feb 16, 2012 8:35 pm

May 10, 2012:

IAD-AMS 1 757
IAD-DFW 1 73G (2 CR7)
IAD-DEN 1 737-800, 1 757-300 (3 A320, 3 757)
IAD-LAX 1 737-900 (4 A319, 2 757,1 767-300, 1 777)
IAD-MAN 1 757
IAD-MCO 1 737-800, 1 757-300 (1 A320, 1 757)
IAD-CDG 2 757
IAD-SAN 2 737-800 (1 A319, 1 757)
IAD-SFO 2 737-800, 1 757-300 (4 A319, 4 A320, 1 767-300)
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RE: Interesting UA EWR Crossfleeting Changes For May

Thu Feb 16, 2012 9:43 pm

5/10/12: LAX

BWI: 1x 738, 1x 319 (returning a week later: 2x 738)
CLE: 1x 738, 1x 757, 1x 320
LAS: 1x 735, 1x 738, 2x CR2, 1x CR7 (big capacity downgrade here.)
SFO: Every other flight is a 320 or 757 with a 735 and 738 mixed in there as well.
IAH: Every other flight is a 739 or PMCO 757 with a 753, 738, and 735 thrown in as well.
DEN: 2x 757, 3x 738, 2x 319, 1x 320
IAD: 1x 777, 1x 763, 3x 757, 2x 319
MCO: 1x 320
ORD: 2x 753, 2x 739, 2x 320, 2x 319, 3x 757, 1x 738
PHL: 1x 320 (with a 738 retruning a week later)
BOS: 2x 757
JFK: 6x 757
EWR: 1x 753, 2x 757, 4x 739, 1x 738 (a bit dissapointing from a variety standpoint -- all CO metal)
HNL: 3x 763, 2x 738
KOA: 1x 757
OGG: 1x 763, 1x 757
MEX: 1x 319
GDL: 1x 738
BJX: 1x 738
LIH: 1x 757
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RE: Interesting UA EWR Crossfleeting Changes For May

Thu Feb 16, 2012 9:51 pm

Quoting TOMMY767 (Reply 32):
My guess is that 757 will do a turn to BOS-SFO and not sit on the ground at BOS wasting time until the next morning.
Then another 757 will come in from a redeye into BOS (LAX or SFO) and operate BOS-EWR at 6:50am

That's not the "wicked confusing" part -- it's figuring out which terminal you're supposed to use when every other flight to EWR departs from A.
 
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RE: Interesting UA EWR Crossfleeting Changes For May

Thu Feb 16, 2012 10:04 pm

Quoting LAXintl (Reply 6):
I honestly don't know what people find so fascinating with such cross fleeting?

Oh its very exciting! The last 10 years we've seen such homo-genius fleets amongst the majors that it all became so predictable. The last time there was this kind of diversity was in the 80s with dozens of airlines each having large diverse fleets-and that was before the internet so you either had to call 800 number to what plane you'd fly on or show up at gate. Its an awesome trade off in the geeky airline nut world (i.e. losing colorful liveries and airline names dwindling to just a few) in that its cool to see such diverse fleet under one brand and the guess of where what plane will fly.

Quoting LAXintl (Reply 6):
What you see in May however is a tiny fraction as the scheduling folks "held back" with a much more intertwined schedules planned for the late fall.

Look forward to it!
 
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RE: Interesting UA EWR Crossfleeting Changes For May

Thu Feb 16, 2012 10:45 pm

Quoting TOMMY767 (Thread starter):
Very excited that EWR-BOS is a 757

   Oh man that will be awesome! Looks like I'm going to Boston from EWR!
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RE: Interesting UA EWR Crossfleeting Changes For May

Thu Feb 16, 2012 11:23 pm

Quoting STT757 (Reply 28):
May 10, 2012:

CLE-MCO 3x daily A319
CLE-LGA 1 A319 (plus 7 ERJs)
CLE-EWR 1 A319 (plus 5 737s)
CLE-IAH 2 A319 (plus 4 737s)
CLE-LAS 1 A320, 1 737-800, 1 757-300
CLE-LAX 1 A320, 2 737-800
CLE-SFO 1 A319 (plus 1 737-900)

MAY14th

CO345 A320 SEA-CLE A320
Operated by United Airlines.

MAY 18th

CO993 CLE-SEA 757-200
Operated by United Airlines.
( 738 CLE-SEA and SEA-CLE starts around 7th or 8th of June)
 
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RE: Interesting UA EWR Crossfleeting Changes For May

Thu Feb 16, 2012 11:47 pm

Quoting BACCALA (Reply 38):

Just when everyone thought CLE was going to be downsized, they are adding 757s to LAX and SEA. Fantastic!

Quoting JHCRJ700 (Reply 37):

Me too. Well worth it -- go up there for a weekend: Leave Friday at 6:50pm on the 757, come back Monday morning on the 757 to work in NYC. Perfect timing!

Quoting deltaflyertoo (Reply 36):

Ditto. I can't wait for the UA airbuses and 757s to come to EWR.
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Fri Feb 17, 2012 12:05 am

Quoting TOMMY767 (Reply 39):

Me too. Well worth it -- go up there for a weekend: Leave Friday at 6:50pm on the 757, come back Monday morning on the 757 to work in NYC. Perfect timing!

Thanks to B6 entering the market, you can do exactly that for a bunch of weekends in May/June for $144 roundtrip.
 
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Fri Feb 17, 2012 12:22 am

Quoting CODC10 (Reply 40):

Yes! Fourth of July it is. Thanks Jet Blue!   (a 757 owns a E190 thank you very much.)
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Fri Feb 17, 2012 12:37 am

Quoting TOMMY767 (Reply 39):
Ditto. I can't wait for the UA airbuses and 757s to come to EWR.

UA 752's are nice bc of the larger F cabin but UA aircraft are rather inferior to CO aircraft in terms of IFE. I generally don't watch DTV unless I'm in F but the big thing is the AC outlet that most CO aircraft have. UA aircraft do not have this ammenitiy so unless you are really tall and will benefit from E+ (while the CO aircraft are equiped with E+) or just really like the UA seats, UA aircraft don't offer a ton in terms of a better product.
 
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Fri Feb 17, 2012 1:23 am

Quoting usairways85 (Reply 42):

Never used the DTV product. I prefer E+ and Channel 9. Overhead monitors are fine with me. As a matter of fact the last few years when I was Silver on DL, I used to fly the A320s semi often and while I enjoyed the ride, I didn't like how a plane that size didn't offer any entertainment whatsoever. I'm glad the 757s and 320s have screens to please (sort of) the masses.
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RE: Interesting UA EWR Crossfleeting Changes For May

Fri Feb 17, 2012 1:31 am

Quoting STT757 (Reply 28):
ORD-DEN 1 737-800, 1 757-300 (plus 2 A320, 5 757, 1 777)
Quoting STT757 (Reply 28):
ORD-LAS 1 737-800, 1 757-300 (plus 1 A320, 4 757)
Quoting STT757 (Reply 28):
ORD-LAX 2 737-800, 1 737-900, 1 757-300 (plus 1 A319, 3 A320, 3 757)
ORD-MCO 1 737-500, 1 737-800, 1 737-900, 1 757-300 (plus 1 A320, 1 757)
Quoting STT757 (Reply 28):
ORD-SFO 1 757-300 (plus 2 A319, 2 A320, 6 757, 3 767-300)
Quoting STT757 (Reply 33):
IAD-DEN 1 737-800, 1 757-300 (3 A320, 3 757)
Quoting STT757 (Reply 33):
IAD-MCO 1 737-800, 1 757-300 (1 A320, 1 757)

Love those 753s operating on UA Hub to Hub and LAS/MCO routes. $$$$ - low CASM. Too bad there aren't more to be purchased. Sorry, but those 763ERs need to be flying international routes after reconfiguration. $$$$$$$$

On another thread it was stated that 753s would be flying to Hawaii, but I don't see any on Reply 34. An Ex-TZ 753 flew several days last week on DEN/SFO-HNL. Unfortunately the westbound DEN-HNL made fuel stops at SFO.
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Fri Feb 17, 2012 4:05 am

Quoting LAXintl (Reply 6):
I honestly don't know what people find so fascinating with such cross fleeting?

As time goes on and we saw with DL/NW there will be ever more of this.

It's fascinating because it's fun to see the way that the combined carrier uses the diverse fleet to draw out the synergies of the merger.

At least it's that way for me...
 
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RE: Interesting UA EWR Crossfleeting Changes For May

Fri Feb 17, 2012 5:06 am

Its great to see that ORD is getting a lot of 738s to fill in to all those regional markets that were so sorely missing the 733 fleet.

I see this carrier aggressively moving 738s to ORD and distributing 319s to fill in for them at sCO hubs.

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Fri Feb 17, 2012 2:48 pm

Quoting gigneil (Reply 46):

I think part of the reason for the move of 738s to ORD also to compete with AA. AA's cornerstone strategy is largely fixated on offering RJ's and 738s to core business markets out of O'Hare. UA will fly the 738 out of ORD, but also has more leverage than AA because they have a large amount of 32S, 73G, 739, 757, and 753 that they can throw in to be more competitive -- while AA still has those S80s flying around (as secondary) and in most cases, taking a loss with them. UA will beat AA on CASM on many routes out of ORD without even lifting a finger.

Quoting CALPSAFltSkeds (Reply 44):

Yikes. Then like certain 757 routes out of IAD and EWR to Europe, UA has no business flying 753s from DEN to HNL.
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RE: Interesting UA EWR Crossfleeting Changes For May

Fri Feb 17, 2012 3:47 pm

Quoting CALPSAFltSkeds (Reply 44):
On another thread it was stated that 753s would be flying to Hawaii, but I don't see any on Reply 34. An Ex-TZ 753 flew several days last week on DEN/SFO-HNL. Unfortunately the westbound DEN-HNL made fuel stops at SFO.

I believe one of the 767-400ERs went tech and a 753 was dispatched to cover the flights.

The 757-300s to Hawaii begin in earnest around August.
 
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RE: Interesting UA EWR Crossfleeting Changes For May

Fri Feb 17, 2012 4:48 pm

Quoting CALPSAFltSkeds (Reply 44):

Love those 753s operating on UA Hub to Hub and LAS/MCO routes. $$$$ - low CASM.

I'm especially impressed with the 757-300 on IAD-MCO.
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