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First DL 744 With Cabin Mods In Service

Tue Feb 14, 2012 8:57 pm

It looks like the first DL 744 has finally made it out of mods and is starting to fly revenue routes with the new cabin. I've heard speculation that there was a delay with installing the AVOD monitors in Y but havn't heard whether they were actually installed or not. Could anyone shed some light on this as well as any other DL 744s currently in for cabin mods?

It looks like she flew her first revenue flight out of mods on 26 Jan (NRT-DTW). For tomorrow, 15 Feb, she's scheduled to fly DTW-NGO, with the new seating arrangement (48J/328Y) showing on DeltaNet.


http://flightaware.com/live/flight/N670US

This mod has yet to show up on the Delta Product upgrads page.

http://www.delta.com/traveling_check...ght_services/products/progress.jsp


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RE: First DL 744 With Cabin Mods In Service

Tue Feb 14, 2012 9:18 pm

Quoting CAP2008 (Thread starter):

There's a pic floating around the forums that shows Y with the new monitors. Looks pretty nice.
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RE: First DL 744 With Cabin Mods In Service

Tue Feb 14, 2012 9:30 pm

Now that looks pretty sweet. I think the reverse herringbone is the best J configuration in the business. I'm not a huge fan of leather but everything else seems awesome.

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RE: First DL 744 With Cabin Mods In Service

Tue Feb 14, 2012 9:37 pm

Quoting TOMMY767 (Reply 1):
There's a pic floating around the forums that shows Y with the new monitors. Looks pretty nice.

For those who haven't seen it yet:
http://www.airliners.net/uf/9174/phphHYYlh.jpeg
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RE: First DL 744 With Cabin Mods In Service

Tue Feb 14, 2012 9:52 pm

Quoting 1337Delta764 (Reply 3):
For those who haven't seen it yet:

I think it's fair to say that this brings the old 744 right up to date. It looks fantastic, to my mind. The only negative for me is the relative sterility of the DL cabin. The seats are blue, the carpets are blue, the walls and lighting are white. While it is completely inoffensive, very practical and timeless I think a little imagination would not have gone astray. An oversized truncated widget and the DL logo on the centre bulkhead, perhaps.
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RE: First DL 744 With Cabin Mods In Service

Tue Feb 14, 2012 10:12 pm

Quoting BrianDromey (Reply 4):
I think it's fair to say that this brings the old 744 right up to date. It looks fantastic, to my mind. The only negative for me is the relative sterility of the DL cabin. The seats are blue, the carpets are blue, the walls and lighting are white. While it is completely inoffensive, very practical and timeless I think a little imagination would not have gone astray. An oversized truncated widget and the DL logo on the centre bulkhead, perhaps.

I personally would have liked it if DL updated the bins a bit. As far as I know, there are no aftermarket pivot bin packages available for the main cabin for the 747, only Boeing offers them as part of their official Signature Interior retrofit. DL's 763ER overhead bin pivot mods I believe are a Heath Tecna product (the NuLook 767 PBI package).
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RE: First DL 744 With Cabin Mods In Service

Tue Feb 14, 2012 10:28 pm

I believe that the next aircraft being updated is N663US, which according to FlightAware arrived in NRT on 12/17/11, and hasn't flown since. Also N662US arrived in NRT on 01/26 and could be the third to be done. It shouldn't take as long to do these updates as it took N670US, assuming they are being done in PEK, as they now know what's got to be done! Btw N670US first revenue flight routed DTW/NRT/MNL/NRT/DTW on 02/03-05 and then it flew a military charter flight from BWI/RMS/BWI on 02/08-09.

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RE: First DL 744 With Cabin Mods In Service

Tue Feb 14, 2012 10:48 pm

Quoting BrianDromey (Reply 4):
I think it's fair to say that this brings the old 744 right up to date. It looks fantastic, to my mind. The only negative for me is the relative sterility of the DL cabin. The seats are blue, the carpets are blue, the walls and lighting are white. While it is completely inoffensive, very practical and timeless I think a little imagination would not have gone astray. An oversized truncated widget and the DL logo on the centre bulkhead, perhaps.

Completely agreed! Glad to see this happening on these grandes dames of the sky!
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RE: First DL 744 With Cabin Mods In Service

Tue Feb 14, 2012 10:53 pm

I must say that the new cabin looks very smart indeed. Well done to DL for implementing it & being able to compete better with others on their routes.

Are the AVOD screens touch screen or to be used with a remote?
 
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RE: First DL 744 With Cabin Mods In Service

Tue Feb 14, 2012 11:14 pm

Quoting ZKSUJ (Reply 8):
Are the AVOD screens touch screen or to be used with a remote?

They are touchscreen, as are all PMDL AVOD aircraft in Y.
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RE: First DL 744 With Cabin Mods In Service

Wed Feb 15, 2012 6:48 am

The current bins on the main deck 747-400 dont need to be changed. I am glad they didn't, that would be a waste of money. I would agree that they need to finish the project that NWA started upgrading the bins on the upper deck to the pivot bins.

I think pivot bins are awful. 1. They really dont hold a lot of luggage. Unlike the current shelf bins you cant place a roller bag on its side in a pivot bin. 2. While you can close an empty pivot bin with one finger (thats cute), its doesn't work so well when its full of bags. I am a 6'2" dude - and its difficult to close the 777 bins when loaded with bags. 3. While I like the look of the pivot bins when closed they are not so functional. And the 747 bins looks just fine.
 
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RE: First DL 744 With Cabin Mods In Service

Wed Feb 15, 2012 6:53 am

Well this will take Delta off my "do not fly" list on the JFK-NRT route once this is complete. I've been waiting for these upgrades to be done. Delta's fares often beat their competitors on that route but the service offered on ANA and JAL is more than worth the premium given DL's current cabins on that route. This will bring them up to par.
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RE: First DL 744 With Cabin Mods In Service

Wed Feb 15, 2012 7:10 am

Quoting 1337Delta764 (Reply 5):
As far as I know, there are no aftermarket pivot bin packages available for the main cabin for the 747, only Boeing offers them as part of their official Signature Interior retrofit.

Does Boeing even offer that for the 744? I thought it was only available on new-build aircraft.
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RE: First DL 744 With Cabin Mods In Service

Wed Feb 15, 2012 9:46 am

Very Nice! Good to see Delta updating the 747 for many more years in service 

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RE: First DL 744 With Cabin Mods In Service

Wed Feb 15, 2012 9:47 am

Quoting JAFA (Reply 10):
The current bins on the main deck 747-400 dont need to be changed. I am glad they didn't, that would be a waste of money. I would agree that they need to finish the project that NWA started upgrading the bins on the upper deck to the pivot bins.


Agreed. I've been working the PMNW 744's since they came online in 1989, and I've never once had to gate check a bag because there was no baggage space left. The maindeck bins are huge and can accommodate all the bags brought onboard. Now, the upper deck bins are another story...
 
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RE: First DL 744 With Cabin Mods In Service

Wed Feb 15, 2012 9:55 am

It's probbly just me, but, i don't like it. I don't like leather upholstry on longhaul flights expecially in Y. The C class looks like a dental office IMO
 
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RE: First DL 744 With Cabin Mods In Service

Wed Feb 15, 2012 11:37 am

Quoting CAP2008 (Thread starter):
For tomorrow, 15 Feb, she's scheduled to fly DTW-NGO, with the new seating arrangement (48J/328Y) showing on DeltaNet.

Looks like MNL is going to be very lucky with getting the new modded 744s! 
 
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RE: First DL 744 With Cabin Mods In Service

Wed Feb 15, 2012 12:17 pm

Quoting BOACCunard (Reply 12):
Does Boeing even offer that for the 744? I thought it was only available on new-build aircraft.

Somebody certainly does -- I thought there was a third party company though? QF will soon by retrofitting pivot bins into three 744's to bring them up to date with the -ER's.
 
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RE: First DL 744 With Cabin Mods In Service

Wed Feb 15, 2012 1:21 pm

Quoting spacecadet (Reply 11):
Delta's fares often beat their competitors on that route but the service offered on ANA and JAL is more than worth the premium given DL's current cabins on that route.

I don't know... DL is going to have to do a lot more than just add PTVs to compete service-wise with the Japanese carriers. The treatment I've gotten from JL/NH has always been lightyears ahead of any American carrier.

That said, I flew NW/DL 744s between Japan and the US probably three times a year for ten years, so it's nice to see a proper long-haul product in the cabin.
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RE: First DL 744 With Cabin Mods In Service

Wed Feb 15, 2012 2:19 pm

Quoting BrianDromey (Reply 4):
I think it's fair to say that this brings the old 744 right up to date. It looks fantastic, to my mind. The only negative for me is the relative sterility of the DL cabin. The seats are blue, the carpets are blue, the walls and lighting are white. While it is completely inoffensive, very practical and timeless I think a little imagination would not have gone astray.

Y looks ok, but that J cabin is boring as anything. A little imagination and ingenuity would have gone a LONG way. Apparently Delta isn't looking to stand out of the pack--another average product.
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RE: First DL 744 With Cabin Mods In Service

Wed Feb 15, 2012 2:37 pm

Quoting JAFA (Reply 10):
The current bins on the main deck 747-400 don't need to be changed. I am glad they didn't, that would be a waste of money. I would agree that they need to finish the project that NWA started upgrading the bins on the upper deck to the pivot bins.

Having worked on the NW 747-400's since they went into service I am really excited at the new look and seating. The AVOD in Y class is an especially welcome change passengers (and crews!) will love. The -400 outer sidewall bins are huge--the trick is getting max use of space by having pax turn their rollaboards onto their long sides rather than lie flat. You can really stuff those suckers that way. Unfortunatel, the mid cabin bins don't hold nearly as much.

The new overhead bin project on the upper deck was completed a couple of years ago.

I do think the cabins look a little sterile with the blue and white. A nice Widget (ALWAYS capitalized per Delta management!) on the bulkheads would look nice and give a dash of color. Years ago NW redid the interiors of their 747-100 and -200 aircraft and put a beautiful custom carved floral carpet design on the forward bulkheads. Unfortunately it was a bunch of white chrysanthemums which are a symbol of death to the Japanese. Whoops.

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RE: First DL 744 With Cabin Mods In Service

Wed Feb 15, 2012 3:25 pm

Quoting JAFA (Reply 10):
I think pivot bins are awful. 1. They really dont hold a lot of luggage. .

That is where you are wrong. The pivot bins hold significantly more luggage than shelf bins. The problem with shelf bins is wasted space, where there is room above the cabin to fit a pivot bin. Therefore, with shelf bins, you get a smaller bin with more cabin encroachment. Boeing isn't stupid; they wouldn't have designed a new bin that is smaller than previous bins.

You should compare the pivot bins on DL's 764ERs vs. the shelf bins on DL's unmodded 763s. HUGE difference in bin capacity.
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RE: First DL 744 With Cabin Mods In Service

Wed Feb 15, 2012 3:36 pm

Official press release today; all 747s to be done by October 2012.

http://news.delta.com/index.php?s=43&item=1547

The link below has pics and a short video:

http://www.multivu.com/mnr/48935-del...lations-on-boeing-747-400-aircraft

Quoting CAP2008 (Thread starter):
It looks like she flew her first revenue flight out of mods on 26 Jan (NRT-DTW). For tomorrow, 15 Feb, she's scheduled to fly DTW-NGO

She also did a regular revenue DTW-NRT-DTW flight in early February.
 
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RE: First DL 744 With Cabin Mods In Service

Wed Feb 15, 2012 5:31 pm

Quoting 1337Delta764 (Reply 21):
You should compare the pivot bins on DL's 764ERs vs. the shelf bins on DL's unmodded 763s. HUGE difference in bin capacity.

Well actually I have, remember the part about me being a flight attendant. I would agree that the pivot bins on the 764 are a huge improvement than the shelf bins on the 763.

However, this discussion is about the 747. Instead of telling me I am wrong, how about just disagreeing with me? I think you are wrong, but you are entitled to your wrong opinion.  

Anyway - as much as I love reading things on A-net, I am not getting into a "BIN DEBATE". So I am officially back in lurk mode. I am off to the gym, wish they had 777 pivot bins full of luggage in lieu of a shoulder press.
 
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RE: First DL 744 With Cabin Mods In Service

Wed Feb 15, 2012 5:42 pm

If I were DL I would have made the bins a tad smaller so the large roller bags won't fit. Then all those people who try and bring their luggage on board will be forced to have the bags checked. That will free bin space for smaller bags, coats, etc. I could say add padding and a seat belt and that is where we could stow screaming kids but that could be considered offensive  
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RE: First DL 744 With Cabin Mods In Service

Wed Feb 15, 2012 6:11 pm

Quoting Indy (Reply 24):
If I were DL I would have made the bins a tad smaller so the large roller bags won't fit. Then all those people who try and bring their luggage on board will be forced to have the bags checked. That will free bin space for smaller bags, coats, etc. I could say add padding and a seat belt and that is where we could stow screaming kids but that could be considered offensive  

Then we would be stuck having to gate check all those bags, with a line of roll-aboards all the way up the jetway. Face it, the world is getting bigger and more and more people are flying. I agree that these carry-on bags are getting to be outrageous, but it's the nature of the beast. Aircraft interior designers love it because it gives them more things to tinker with.
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RE: First DL 744 With Cabin Mods In Service

Wed Feb 15, 2012 6:22 pm

Is this the same 747 that was sitting at BWI from 02/07/12/ to 02/11/12? According to another thread, this bird has the new mods, but don't know why they would be at BWI flying military charters with it.
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RE: First DL 744 With Cabin Mods In Service

Wed Feb 15, 2012 6:44 pm

Looks really nice as it does bring things up to par with other Airlines that do fly with that type seating already on Asia routes/etc.  
 
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RE: First DL 744 With Cabin Mods In Service

Wed Feb 15, 2012 6:46 pm

The seats look very nice but the colours just seem a bit clinical, could have done with a few other flashes of colour on the headrests or the end walls.
 
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RE: First DL 744 With Cabin Mods In Service

Wed Feb 15, 2012 7:13 pm

The cabin looks great! Clean and still somewhat warm. It'd be nice to see less of that ugly plastic shell in businesselite.
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RE: First DL 744 With Cabin Mods In Service

Wed Feb 15, 2012 7:47 pm

Quoting panamair (Reply 22):
Official press release today; all 747s to be done by October 2012.

http://news.delta.com/index.php?s=43...=1547

Sad news for me, as my chances are slim I'll be in a refurbished model when I fly JFK-NRT at the end of April and return in mid May. That's my only scheduled 744 service for this year so far.
 
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RE: First DL 744 With Cabin Mods In Service

Wed Feb 15, 2012 8:05 pm

Quoting mcogator (Reply 30):
Sad news for me, as my chances are slim I'll be in a refurbished model when I fly JFK-NRT at the end of April and return in mid May. That's my only scheduled 744 service for this year so far.

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RE: First DL 744 With Cabin Mods In Service

Wed Feb 15, 2012 8:27 pm

Quoting mcogator (Reply 30):
Sad news for me, as my chances are slim I'll be in a refurbished model when I fly JFK-NRT at the end of April and return in mid May. That's my only scheduled 744 service for this year so far.

Maybe you'll get lucky. The last time flew on the NW/DL 744s, there were three registrations I specifically wanted to fly on because they had a little extra meaning to me. On the outbound flight I grabbed my #3 choice. On the return, I hit my #1 choice. With 16 planes in the fleet the chances weren't good, but sometimes it goes your way. Your odds in April/May should be better than mine were.
 
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RE: First DL 744 With Cabin Mods In Service

Wed Feb 15, 2012 8:31 pm

Quoting DTWPurserBoy (Reply 20):
Unfortunately it was a bunch of white chrysanthemums which are a symbol of death to the Japanese. Whoops.

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Quoting DTWPurserBoy (Reply 20):
A nice Widget (ALWAYS capitalized per Delta management!) on the bulkheads would look nice and give a dash of color.

That would be nice.
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RE: First DL 744 With Cabin Mods In Service

Wed Feb 15, 2012 8:32 pm

Quoting audidudi (Reply 6):
I believe that the next aircraft being updated is N663US, which according to FlightAware arrived in NRT on 12/17/11, and hasn't flown since. Also N662US arrived in NRT on 01/26 and could be the third to be done. It shouldn't take as long to do these updates as it took N670US, assuming they are being done in PEK, as they now know what's got to be done! Btw N670US first revenue flight routed DTW/NRT/MNL/NRT/DTW on 02/03-05 and then it flew a military charter flight from BWI/RMS/BWI on 02/08-09.

Yes, this aircraft is currently in PEK getting the mods.

Quoting ZKSUJ (Reply 8):
Are the AVOD screens touch screen or to be used with a remote?

In Y they are touchscreen, in C they are both touchscreen and have a remote.

Quoting DTWPurserBoy (Reply 20):
I do think the cabins look a little sterile with the blue and white. A nice Widget (ALWAYS capitalized per Delta management!) on the bulkheads would look nice and give a dash of color. Years ago NW redid the interiors of their 747-100 and -200 aircraft and put a beautiful custom carved floral carpet design on the forward bulkheads. Unfortunately it was a bunch of white chrysanthemums which are a symbol of death to the Japanese. Whoops.

There may be something coming, but not in the way that most people would say, watch for some clues in the March release of the new Delta commercial.

Quoting BWI5OH (Reply 26):
Is this the same 747 that was sitting at BWI from 02/07/12/ to 02/11/12? According to another thread, this bird has the new mods, but don't know why they would be at BWI flying military charters with it.

Yes, currently its doing mostly charters because we only have one, thus from logistics when you have a 65 C seat aircraft going down to mid 40's makes a big difference in last minute changes since aircraft are not typically assigned until 3 days out.
 
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RE: First DL 744 With Cabin Mods In Service

Wed Feb 15, 2012 8:33 pm

With at least 3 aircraft with the updates in service by then , that makes your odds at least 20%, maybe 25%, if 4 are done.
 
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RE: First DL 744 With Cabin Mods In Service

Wed Feb 15, 2012 8:39 pm

Quoting audidudi (Reply 35):
With at least 3 aircraft with the updates in service by then , that makes your odds at least 20%, maybe 25%, if 4 are done.

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RE: First DL 744 With Cabin Mods In Service

Wed Feb 15, 2012 10:24 pm

Quoting Tradewinds (Reply 18):
I don't know... DL is going to have to do a lot more than just add PTVs to compete service-wise with the Japanese carriers. The treatment I've gotten from JL/NH has always been lightyears ahead of any American carrier.

I would at least try them if they kept their fares low with these new cabins. I can actually deal with surly inattentive crews (not that I like it, but I can deal), but what I can't handle is 14 hours with nothing to do. And unlike some, I can't read for 14 hours straight on an airplane. So a PTV system is kind of my minimum requirement for long-haul flying these days. Not having one is the quickest way for me to cross an airline off my list.

I think JAL and ANA have had them on that route for more than 10 years now. My first trip to Japan was in 2000 and I seem to remember they had them then, though I did get stuck on an old ANA 747 once that was probably similar to DL's 744's now (pre-upgrade).
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RE: First DL 744 With Cabin Mods In Service

Wed Feb 15, 2012 11:04 pm

Quoting spacecadet (Reply 37):
I would at least try them if they kept their fares low with these new cabins. I can actually deal with surly inattentive crews (not that I like it, but I can deal), but what I can't handle is 14 hours with nothing to do. And unlike some, I can't read for 14 hours straight on an airplane. So a PTV system is kind of my minimum requirement for long-haul flying these days. Not having one is the quickest way for me to cross an airline off my list.

I think JAL and ANA have had them on that route for more than 10 years now. My first trip to Japan was in 2000 and I seem to remember they had them then, though I did get stuck on an old ANA 747 once that was probably similar to DL's 744's now (pre-upgrade).

   I can agree with that. It gets a little trickier when you consider the freebies you tend to get on the Japanese carriers (especially for kids; I have a 3-year-old we travel with to Japan regularly so those things matter a lot!). It is good to see DL finally competing in terms of a decent Y product, though. My IFE for about a decade was Halcyon and beer!  
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RE: First DL 744 With Cabin Mods In Service

Wed Feb 15, 2012 11:44 pm

Quoting DTWPurserBoy (Reply 20):
The -400 outer sidewall bins are huge--the trick is getting max use of space by having pax turn their rollaboards onto their long sides rather than lie flat. You can really stuff those suckers that way

Did the NW classics have aftermarket bins? I have always thought that they were larger than the -400 bins.......

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RE: First DL 744 With Cabin Mods In Service

Thu Feb 16, 2012 12:36 am

Quoting Tradewinds (Reply 38):
It gets a little trickier when you consider the freebies you tend to get on the Japanese carriers (especially for kids; I have a 3-year-old we travel with to Japan regularly so those things matter a lot!). It is good to see DL finally competing in terms of a decent Y product, though. My IFE for about a decade was Halcyon and beer!

I did actually fly both Northwest and United once each on the JFK-NRT route in the 00's - I don't remember much about those flights except that I was upgraded to business class on United, which was nice, but there was *still* no IFE. Talk about a competitive disadvantage. No wonder there was no one flying business on that flight (they told me I was upgraded for weight balance!). I did drink quite a bit on that flight; it was free and I was bored.

The one old ANA 744 I got stuck on I do remember, because we had counted on them having PTV's (which they generally did at the time) and were a bit late for the flight and in a rush, so I had *nothing*. I spent the entire 14 hours leafing through the in-flight magazine. That was tough. My wife slept but I can't sleep on planes. These days I always buy a couple of my own magazines in advance, just in case.

I don't have kids so I don't know what other advantages JAL and ANA have over DL flying from the US. I do obviously like the service on the Japanese carriers but I'd probably have to just try DL to see if JAL or ANA is still worth the premium once DL installs PTV's. One thing in DL's favor is Economy Comfort - I'd pay a couple hundred bucks to be guaranteed more legroom (I'm 6'4"), which you can't really do on ANA or JAL... JAL's PE is just too expensive and ANA just doesn't have anything like that anymore. But up to now, I'd have rather taken my chances on getting an exit row if I'm guaranteed a PTV. I'll just have to try DL sometime in the future to see if the PTV's and Economy Comfort now make them a decent option for me on this route.
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RE: First DL 744 With Cabin Mods In Service

Thu Feb 16, 2012 12:59 am

Quoting 1stfl94 (Reply 28):
The seats look very nice but the colours just seem a bit clinical, could have done with a few other
flashes of colour on the headrests or the end walls.

There might well be a splash of red on the headrest covers -- it's impossible to tell from the back...
 
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Thu Feb 16, 2012 1:52 am

Quoting spacecadet (Reply 40):
One thing in DL's favor is Economy Comfort - I'd pay a couple hundred bucks to be guaranteed more legroom (I'm 6'4"), which you can't really do on ANA or JAL...

At 6'7", I understand EXACTLY what you mean   In any event, it is nice that pretty much every option I have to fly to Japan (where my wife is from, so we travel there a couple of times a year usually) now has a decent product in Y. I do agree, though, that the cabin looks pretty sterile... even just a logo on the bulkhead would spice it up a bit.
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RE: First DL 744 With Cabin Mods In Service

Thu Feb 16, 2012 3:40 am

Remember one thing about the cabin becoming too sterile.....the R E D blankets  
 
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RE: First DL 744 With Cabin Mods In Service

Thu Feb 16, 2012 10:09 pm

Another thing that I am a little disappointed in is that DL didn't update the tiny text-based lavatory signs on them. I really wish DL would have installed larger symbolic signs (the ones with the illuminating red X).

Were the PSUs updated at all?

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RE: First DL 744 With Cabin Mods In Service

Thu Feb 16, 2012 10:59 pm

Quoting 1337Delta764 (Reply 44):
Another thing that I am a little disappointed in is that DL didn't update the tiny text-based lavatory signs on them. I really wish DL would have installed larger symbolic signs (the ones with the illuminating red X).

Don't worry, the did install DL seat markers, so you can rest a little easier there knowing that the seat markers will be more visually appealing, but the real question is whether the lavs got the faux wood grain floor.......
 
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RE: First DL 744 With Cabin Mods In Service

Thu Feb 16, 2012 11:02 pm

Quoting PSU.DTW.SCE (Reply 45):
Don't worry, the did install DL seat markers, so you can rest a little easier there knowing that the seat markers will be more visually appealing, but the real question is whether the lavs got the faux wood grain floor.......

The seat markers I think were already installed when DL added Economy Comfort, since the EC seat markers are red to make them easily identifiable.

BTW, I heard DL will do the same with the A319/A320s when they get EC. No more having to look below the bins to find the row numbers.
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RE: First DL 744 With Cabin Mods In Service

Thu Feb 16, 2012 11:39 pm

Quoting 1337Delta764 (Reply 46):
BTW, I heard DL will do the same with the A319/A320s when they get EC. No more having to look below the bins to find the row numbers.

This is true. Several 319/320 are flying with the new seat markers.
 
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RE: First DL 744 With Cabin Mods In Service

Thu Feb 16, 2012 11:41 pm

Quoting 1337Delta764 (Reply 46):
BTW, I heard DL will do the same with the A319/A320s when they get EC. No more having to look below the bins to find the row numbers.

They are.



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RE: First DL 744 With Cabin Mods In Service

Thu Feb 16, 2012 11:57 pm

Quoting KingAir200 (Reply 48):
They are.

Hmm, the design has changed a bit, reducing the 3-D effect that the ones on most of the PMDL fleet have.
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