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Will WN paint its 717's?

Thu Feb 16, 2012 6:21 pm

Will WN paint the 717?
 
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RE: Will WN Paint Its 717's?

Thu Feb 16, 2012 7:16 pm

I hope so -- the Southwest livery really looks pretty darn sporty on the 717!

 
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RE: Will WN Paint Its 717's?

Thu Feb 16, 2012 8:18 pm

Quoting wonder1 (Reply 1):
I hope so -- the Southwest livery really looks pretty darn sporty on the 717!

That looks pretty good! Kind of like a sports car.
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RE: Will WN Paint Its 717's?

Thu Feb 16, 2012 8:21 pm

It really would be nice to see that even if for a short term.
 
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RE: Will WN Paint Its 717's?

Thu Feb 16, 2012 8:27 pm

Yes, starting in January.
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RE: Will WN Paint Its 717's?

Thu Feb 16, 2012 8:41 pm

Quoting gr8slvrflt (Reply 4):
Yes, starting in January.

which year?
 
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RE: Will WN Paint Its 717's?

Thu Feb 16, 2012 9:02 pm

Quoting n471wn (Reply 5):
Quoting gr8slvrflt (Reply 4):
Yes, starting in January.

which year?

Yes,which? I wonder if they will put the website on the engines like FL does/did.
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RE: Will WN Paint Its 717's?

Thu Feb 16, 2012 9:07 pm

At around $100K a frame that's a serious paint bill. Especially if they start leaving the fleet in 2017.
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RE: Will WN Paint Its 717's?

Thu Feb 16, 2012 9:20 pm

Quoting bjorn14 (Reply 7):

Got to paint them either way so might as well make it now! Paint job will not last for 5 more years.....
 
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RE: Will WN Paint Its 717's?

Thu Feb 16, 2012 11:33 pm

Approximately 15 FL 73Gs will join the WN fleet in 2012. FL 717s will start going over in January 2013 with most, if not all, in WN colors by the end of next year. All subject to change, of course.
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RE: Will WN Paint Its 717's?

Fri Feb 17, 2012 12:52 am

Quoting bjorn14 (Reply 7):
At around $100K a frame that's a serious paint bill. Especially if they start leaving the fleet in 2017.

That's too high for an aircraft the size of a 717. It's probably less than half that.

Recent LAX Times article on airliner painting
http://articles.latimes.com/2011/jan...la-fi-1029-plane-painting-20110129

Excerpt:

Painting a Boeing 777 takes up to 11 days and costs between $100,000 and $200,000, depending on the number of colors, Manclark said. A smaller jet, such as an Airbus A320, can be finished in seven days at a cost of about $50,000.
 
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RE: Will WN Paint Its 717's?

Fri Feb 17, 2012 12:55 am

Quoting Viscount724 (Reply 10):

Amazing! Isn it?
 
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RE: Will WN Paint Its 717's?

Fri Feb 17, 2012 12:59 am

Yeah somebody posted DL got the 747s painted for about $100K so guessing 717 around the 320 price quoted above, $40-50K.
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RE: Will WN Paint Its 717's?

Fri Feb 17, 2012 1:02 am

Quoting LGWflyer (Reply 2):
That looks pretty good! Kind of like a sports car.

I agree! It looks pretty sharp! I like!  
Quoting 71Zulu (Reply 12):
Yeah somebody posted DL got the 747s painted for about $100K so guessing 717 around the 320 price quoted above, $40-50K.

I think that is about right.
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RE: Will WN Paint Its 717's?

Fri Feb 17, 2012 1:04 am

I am curious if, assuming they do get a re-paint, they will put the SOUTHWEST titles on the tail. The 717 vertical stabilizer is not very tall and makes little room for the titles. My bet is they put SOUTHWEST on the fuselage.
 
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RE: Will WN Paint Its 717's?

Fri Feb 17, 2012 1:50 am

Quoting Cody (Reply 14):
I am curious if, assuming they do get a re-paint, they will put the SOUTHWEST titles on the tail. The 717 vertical stabilizer is not very tall and makes little room for the titles. My bet is they put SOUTHWEST on the fuselage.

That wouldn't make any sense. The titles can and will fit in a smaller font.
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RE: Will WN Paint Its 717's?

Fri Feb 17, 2012 3:07 am

Quoting FlyASAGuy2005 (Reply 15):
Quoting Cody (Reply 14):
I am curious if, assuming they do get a re-paint, they will put the SOUTHWEST titles on the tail. The 717 vertical stabilizer is not very tall and makes little room for the titles. My bet is they put SOUTHWEST on the fuselage.

That wouldn't make any sense. The titles can and will fit in a smaller font.

THey didn't with the 727s they briefly had (leased):


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RE: Will WN Paint Its 717's?

Fri Feb 17, 2012 3:09 am

Quoting FlyASAGuy2005 (Reply 15):
Quoting Cody (Reply 14):I am curious if, assuming they do get a re-paint, they will put the SOUTHWEST titles on the tail. The 717 vertical stabilizer is not very tall and makes little room for the titles. My bet is they put SOUTHWEST on the fuselage.
That wouldn't make any sense. The titles can and will fit in a smaller font.

Why wouldn't it make sense? The vertical stabilizer on the 727 is even bigger than the 717 and yet Southwest put the name on the fuselage.

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RE: Will WN Paint Its 717's?

Fri Feb 17, 2012 3:17 am

I have to admit the WN scheme looks pretty good on a 717. Then again, any paint job looks good on the 717... it's just a good looking bird, period!   
 
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RE: Will WN Paint Its 717's?

Fri Feb 17, 2012 3:24 am

Quoting FlyASAGuy2005 (Reply 15):
That wouldn't make any sense. The titles can and will fit in a smaller font.

Also, from a brand management standpoint, isn't it better to have a uniform fleet? Even DL had the shrunken widget and shrunken DELTA on the Mad Dog tails.


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RE: Will WN Paint Its 717's?

Fri Feb 17, 2012 3:40 am

Quoting xdlx (Reply 8):

Got to paint them either way so might as well make it now! Paint job will not last for 5 more years.....

You must not work for United. They got 12.5 years a single paint job on one of the last battleship grey planes.

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RE: Will WN Paint Its 717's?

Fri Feb 17, 2012 3:59 am

Quoting catiii (Reply 19):

I guess that was my point as well. Brand consistency but the WN pundits know more than I do about the company so ill stay out of it  
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RE: Will WN Paint Its 717's?

Fri Feb 17, 2012 10:16 am

I must say I actually prefer that MD88 in the old widget c/s because I think airliners just suit a nice cheat line at window level.
 
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RE: Will WN Paint Its 717's?

Fri Feb 17, 2012 12:48 pm

Quoting airsmiles (Reply 22):
I must say I actually prefer that MD88 in the old widget c/s because I think airliners just suit a nice cheat line at window level.

Here here. I agree. The old Delta widget scheme was one of the best around. Today's version is a bland attempt at best.
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RE: Will WN Paint Its 717's?

Fri Feb 17, 2012 1:23 pm

How many of the 717 are staying with WN ?
 
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RE: Will WN Paint Its 717's?

Fri Feb 17, 2012 2:22 pm

Quoting xdlx (Reply 24):

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RE: Will WN Paint Its 717's?

Fri Feb 17, 2012 3:58 pm

Instead of the WN livery would it not be more fitting to paint "FOR SALE" as the titles in red with a black background and then a white box on the vertical stab where you can write in with a sharpie marker the number to call if you are interested?
 
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RE: Will WN Paint Its 717's?

Fri Feb 17, 2012 5:17 pm

Quoting pliersinsight (Reply 26):
Instead of the WN livery would it not be more fitting to paint "FOR SALE" as the titles in red with a black background and then a white box on the vertical stab where you can write in with a sharpie marker the number to call if you are interested?

No need as yet, if they're supposed to stay in the fleet for at least 5 more years...  
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RE: Will WN Paint Its 717's?

Fri Feb 17, 2012 6:01 pm

Quoting gdg9 (Reply 16):
Quoting FlyASAGuy2005 (Reply 15):
Quoting Cody (Reply 14):
I am curious if, assuming they do get a re-paint, they will put the SOUTHWEST titles on the tail. The 717 vertical stabilizer is not very tall and makes little room for the titles. My bet is they put SOUTHWEST on the fuselage.

That wouldn't make any sense. The titles can and will fit in a smaller font.

THey didn't with the 727s they briefly had (leased):

Assuming that WN is indeed continuing FL's sponsor partnerships w/the major league sports teams (Altanta Falcons, Milwaukee Brewers, Baltimore Ravens, etc.); all they would have to do exterior-wise with the special 717 schemes is replace the AirTran fuselage titles w/SOUTHWEST titles. Since much of the artwork of those schemes is prevalent on the tail; replacing it w/WN's standard tail (to match WN's special scheme 737s) would ruin most of those schemes.

That said, to keep the BRANDING of the standard 717s consistent with the special scheme 717s; it would be more logical to apply the airline titles on the fuselage.
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RE: Will WN Paint Its 717's?

Fri Feb 17, 2012 6:45 pm

Quoting 71Zulu (Reply 12):
so guessing 717 around the 320 price quoted above, $40-50K.

Earl Schieb would do it for $99.95!  

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