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BA A380 Fit Out

Thu Feb 16, 2012 8:33 pm

I guess it's a year or less before BA gets it's first A380.

Does anyone know when they plan to unveil the layout and any news on enhancements to products in premium cabins?
 
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RE: BA A380 Fit Out

Thu Feb 16, 2012 10:47 pm

I wish they would do it before the Olympics. I may be not a BA fan, but I think they have their new flagship, bring people to their country, for it's year of hosting the Olympics.
 
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RE: BA A380 Fit Out

Fri Feb 17, 2012 1:17 am

Too bad BA levies such YQ charges for F and J award tickets, that would be a nice reward.
 
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RE: BA A380 Fit Out

Fri Feb 17, 2012 1:29 am

The products are supposedly remaining the same... J will be upstairs, in a 2-3-2 configuration. The group of three will consist of a forward facing pair on one aisle, and a single rear facing seat on the other from what I've been told (sounds a bit strange to me). Personally I'd have though that J would work well downstairs, with the extra width over the 744 allowing BA to install the existing product in 2-4-2 but with the shoulder space that other products have.
 
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RE: BA A380 Fit Out

Fri Feb 17, 2012 3:17 am

Quoting JACK02116 (Thread starter):
Does anyone know when they plan to unveil the layout and any news on enhancements to products in premium cabins?

My opinion is unlikely.

The new F Class cabin is still being retrofitted to their current airctraft. 744 G-CIVX flew its first revenue flight with the new F cabin last Wednesday (15 February). Others are yet to be updated.

The first long haul 763 to be fitted with (a slightly modified) 2nd generation J Class lie flat seat, G-BNWW is due to have a test flight from CWL today, 17 February. But all BA's 744s, 772s and 77Ws have this product

The new W Class cabin has only been retrofitted to one aircraft so far, G-RAES. Its first revenue flight with this cabin was approximately 5 weeks ago on 13 January. However all BA's 77Ws were delivered with this cabin fitted.

The new Y Class cabin also fitted to the new BA 77Ws also made its retrofitted debut when 77w 'ES - see above - returned to service in January. The rest of the long haul fleet remasins to be updated..

The short haul 763 fleet will start a cabin refurbishment programme in March or April which includes virtually everything from overhead luggage bins and cabin side panels to lighting and WCs both up the front and down the back.

Of course if Thales were to update the IFE AVOD system that BA is also currently retrofitting to its early 772s , then I am sure BA would use the latest version in the 380.

With the current high level of activity I think it unlikely we will see anything dramatically new on the 380. But you never know.
 
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RE: BA A380 Fit Out

Fri Feb 17, 2012 6:51 am

Quoting VV701 (Reply 4):
With the current high level of activity I think it unlikely we will see anything dramatically new on the 380. But you never know.

Possibly some kind of A380 only F, ala SQ Suites.
 
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RE: BA A380 Fit Out

Fri Feb 17, 2012 7:15 am

Quoting Bill142 (Reply 5):
Possibly some kind of A380 only F, ala SQ Suites.

Unfortunately not.

BA design manager has already stated in Business Traveller magazine that the current products found on the 'new' 777's will be installed on the A380 with a 're-freshed' Club World cabin and 'some space given back to the passenger' due to the size of the beast. So i'd say the current product in a less cramped environment in F & J than is on current aircraft.
 
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RE: BA A380 Fit Out

Fri Feb 17, 2012 9:32 am

Quoting qf002 (Reply 3):
The products are supposedly remaining the same... J will be upstairs, in a 2-3-2 configuration. The group of three will consist of a forward facing pair on one aisle, and a single rear facing seat on the other from what I've been told (sounds a bit strange to me). Personally I'd have though that J would work well downstairs, with the extra width over the 744 allowing BA to install the existing product in 2-4-2 but with the shoulder space that other products have.

Actually,

This sounds quite good, because it addresses some of the perceived issues ith Club World, i.e. that 8 abreast seems cramped compared to the competition and that the only "pair" of seats facing the same direction are in the middle. With this layout, there is only one middle seat and that's less of an issue if couples are seated in these.

Club World on the upper deck also allows it to retain some exclusivity. I'm sure that BA can give some space back to the passenger here too, perhaps a couple of mini lounges or a small bar area to compliment the raid the larder service areas.
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RE: BA A380 Fit Out

Fri Feb 17, 2012 3:21 pm

It would be a shame if BA do not innvoate with the A380 cabin. As there is more and more pressure from Middle Eastern carriers with superior products now is the time for BA to produce the goods.

With VS implementing a new upper class soon named 'Posh' I am sure they are going to have something up there sleve for when / if they take there A380's
 
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RE: BA A380 Fit Out

Fri Feb 17, 2012 5:13 pm

Can anyone tell me
In which US cities BA will use their A380's?
Which city will be the first?
Thank you
 
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RE: BA A380 Fit Out

Fri Feb 17, 2012 5:29 pm

No-one knows yet as routes havent been announced.

My money however is on LAX or MIA.
 
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RE: BA A380 Fit Out

Fri Feb 17, 2012 5:43 pm

The group of three will consist of a forward facing pair on one aisle, and a single rear facing seat on the other from what I've been told (sounds a bit strange to me).

I can see this working. All three seat would have direct isle access.
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RE: BA A380 Fit Out

Fri Feb 17, 2012 7:06 pm

Quoting bastew (Reply 10):
My money however is on LAX or MIA.

I thought MIA is a very low yielding tourist destination. Would that premium heavy A380 not have better use on some corporate routes?
 
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RE: BA A380 Fit Out

Fri Feb 17, 2012 7:10 pm

Quoting qf002 (Reply 3):
The products are supposedly remaining the same... J will be upstairs, in a 2-3-2 configuration. The group of three will consist of a forward facing pair on one aisle, and a single rear facing seat on the other from what I've been told (sounds a bit strange to me).

I believe 2-3-2 will be in their 787s as well, so the middle seats will go from being coveted by pairs to being a despised coffin.
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RE: BA A380 Fit Out

Sat Feb 18, 2012 2:56 am

Quoting mixalakhs (Reply 9):
Which city will be the first?

The word on the street is LAX, HKG and JNB. No doubt there will be some shorter training flights around Europe before she enters long haul service.

Quoting readytotaxi (Reply 11):
I can see this working. All three seat would have direct isle access.

No they wouldn't. The person sitting in the middle still has to climb over the person sitting next to them in the pair (or the feet of the person sitting one row ahead, on the other aisle) -- direct aisle access means nobody between you and the aisle.
 
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RE: BA A380 Fit Out

Sat Feb 18, 2012 1:12 pm

Quoting kl911 (Reply 12):
I thought MIA is a very low yielding tourist destination. Would that premium heavy A380 not have better use on some corporate routes?

That is the preception but BA has been flying the same 744's and now 772 with the same F and J cabins to Miami for decades they fly to JFK, HKG, JNB and SIN. BA doesn't fly a no F and small J cabin plane to Miami. Even Virgin flies LHR configured A346 and 744's.
 
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RE: BA A380 Fit Out

Sat Feb 18, 2012 2:04 pm

Quoting Roseflyer (Reply 13):
I believe 2-3-2 will be in their 787s as well, so the middle seats will go from being coveted by pairs to being a despised coffin.

Why? Did you not read qf002's post, which you reposted? The middle 3 will be a forward facing pair, then a rear facing single. It will not be a forward facing single, rear facing single, forward facing single that would create the "despised coffin" you infer.
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RE: BA A380 Fit Out

Sat Feb 18, 2012 2:41 pm

Quoting FlyCaledonian (Reply 16):

Club is 2-4-2 downstairs and 2-3-2 upstairs. The middle seat IS rear facing, the aisle seats each side are forward facing.

There is a surprise with the middle seat though, eliminating the 'coffin' feel.
 
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RE: BA A380 Fit Out

Sun Feb 19, 2012 2:37 am

Quoting speedmarque (Reply 17):
Club is 2-4-2 downstairs and 2-3-2 upstairs. The middle seat IS rear facing, the aisle seats each side are forward facing.

There is a surprise with the middle seat though, eliminating the 'coffin' feel.

So the BA A380 will have Club downstairs now as well?? More knowledgeable members of this forum have always insisted that BA will only have J upstairs, and that the central set will include a pair on one aisle and a single seat on the other, which is what I was basing my post on... Very intrigued now, care to share what the surprise is??  

[Edited 2012-02-18 19:17:36]
 
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RE: BA A380 Fit Out

Sun Feb 19, 2012 3:11 pm

Wish I could see the configs as I'm hearing numerous reports....
I'm supposed working in these things!?!?! lol
 
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RE: BA A380 Fit Out

Sun Feb 19, 2012 3:35 pm

Quoting scrappy27 (Reply 20):

You might be waiting a while.............

[Edited 2012-02-19 07:36:25]
 
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RE: BA A380 Fit Out

Sun Feb 19, 2012 4:57 pm

Quoting jfk777 (Reply 15):
Even Virgin flies LHR configured A346 and 744's.

Well VS do fly the route out of LHR  
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RE: BA A380 Fit Out

Mon Feb 20, 2012 2:39 am

Quoting speedmarque (Reply 19):
Im not being funny but how on earth do you know which are 'more knowledgable' members? Just because they shout louder? State rumour as fact? Post their own wishful thinking as true?

Perhaps -- but they make the same claims to information from the inside that you do... At the end of the day, I was just relaying what is rumored, and made it clear that what I posted was just what others had suggested...
 
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RE: BA A380 Fit Out

Mon Feb 20, 2012 3:02 am

Quoting liverpoola380 (Reply 8):
It would be a shame if BA do not innvoate with the A380 cabin. As there is more and more pressure from Middle Eastern carriers with superior products now is the time for BA to produce the goods.

Yes, good point. As this is expected to the flagship of BA's fleet for the next 15-20 years it would be a shame not to launch an industry-leading product they could then get 10 good years use out of, rather then retofit the 380s in 4 years time...
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RE: BA A380 Fit Out

Mon Feb 20, 2012 8:51 am

Quoting liverpoola380 (Reply 8):
As there is more and more pressure from Middle Eastern carriers with superior products now is the time for BA to produce the goods.

BA don't need to garner/lure 'premium' custom with over the top frills as compensation for a time consuming transfer.

One of the benefits of not trying to be 'too big' ! Those days are over.

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RE: BA A380 Fit Out

Mon Feb 20, 2012 9:26 am

Why does BA have to have huge space wasting cabins like SQ or EK F? It's does very well with its current products, yes the 380 will give even more room, but why change the product (remembering the planes will get the new 777-300 cabins and IFE)
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RE: BA A380 Fit Out

Mon Feb 20, 2012 1:22 pm

it is also very important to BA that with the new fleet entering service there is a consistent product across the fleet, so once 763s are retired, 380 787 773 772 will have Prime, NGCW, and the new W and Y cabins and remaining 744 will have Prime NGCW and refreshed W and Y until withdrawn finally

Unfortunately the delays to 787 and 380 mean it probably wont be possible to achieve this fully now however
 
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RE: BA A380 Fit Out

Mon Feb 20, 2012 1:38 pm

Quoting mikey72 (Reply 24):
BA don't need to garner/lure 'premium' custom with over the top frills as compensation for a time consuming transfer.
Quoting lhr380 (Reply 25):
Why does BA have to have huge space wasting cabins like SQ or EK F? It's does very well with its current products, yes the 380 will give even more room, but why change the product (remembering the planes will get the new 777-300 cabins and IFE)

Totally agree. I feel BA have a brilliant product in each of their cabins. Perhaps they could standardise the European / Short-haul product but thats for a different discussion.

Maybe it's because I'm British? But I like the sleakness of the BA longhaul product with it's touch of class in First and Club World and the consistant approach in World Traveller. I dislike many of the competitor products mentioned above mainly as they seem to go over the top with the decor and frills in the cabins which to me look tacky and sometimes unnecessary.

[Edited 2012-02-20 05:40:20]
 
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RE: BA A380 Fit Out

Mon Feb 20, 2012 2:00 pm

Quoting aidoair (Reply 27):
I dislike many of the competitor products mentioned above mainly as they seem to go over the top with the decor and frills in the cabins which to me look tacky and sometimes unnecessary.

And they can afford to spend that money and waste space as they have a unlimited amount of cash in their pockets to do it. If BA went to say 2 2 2 in J and reduced the amount of F seats to make them bigger it would loose a heck of a lot of money and the fares would need to rise a hell of a lot to combat that, pricing it out of the market for some people.

Look at a High J 747 for example.You would loose 13 J seats going to a 2 2 2, and F, say you would have 6 suits, thats a loss of 8 seats. A lot of money lost.
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RE: BA A380 Fit Out

Wed Feb 22, 2012 7:37 am

Slightly off topic, but on the subject of consistency of product across the fleet, has the LGW 777 fleet refit to new First started? Can't find any info about this?
 
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RE: BA A380 Fit Out

Wed Feb 22, 2012 9:12 am

Quoting JACK02116 (Reply 29):
Slightly off topic, but on the subject of consistency of product across the fleet, has the LGW 777 fleet refit to new First started? Can't find any info about this?

Yes, all LGW aircraft with F will have the new product by April, the date for completion was announced just this week I believe
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RE: BA A380 Fit Out

Wed Feb 22, 2012 9:20 am

Quoting kl911 (Reply 12):
Quoting bastew (Reply 10):
My money however is on LAX or MIA.

I thought MIA is a very low yielding tourist destination. Would that premium heavy A380 not have better use on some corporate routes?

There aren't many trans-Atlantic routes with as much premium demand as MIALHR. British Airways didn't fly the Concorde to Miami for the tourists, that's for sure.
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RE: BA A380 Fit Out

Wed Feb 22, 2012 10:46 am

Quoting JACK02116 (Reply 29):
Slightly off topic, but on the subject of consistency of product across the fleet, has the LGW 777 fleet refit to new First started?

The current BA 772 LGW based fleet numbers nine aircraft. They are:

4-class aircraft configured for 224 passengers with old F Cabin fitted with old 12-channel IFE system:
G-VIIA
G-VIIB
G-VIIF

3-class high density aircraft configured for 283 passengers with no F Cabin but now fitted with AVOD:
G-VIIO
G-VIIP
G-VIIR
G-VIIT

3-class aircraft configured for 275 passengers with no F cabin but now fitted with AVOD:
G-YMMA
G-YMMB

BA's oldest 14 772s, G-RAES, G-VIIA to 'IH and 'IJ to 'IN were fitted with the old 12-channel small screen GEC Marconi GMIS IFE System. BA never updated this system with the new TES AVOD system because it would have required a complete rewiring at very high cost. However they now plan to update the system when they fit New World Traveller Plus and New World Traveller cabins, which were only previously fitted to their 77Ws, as well as New First to these aircraft. The first such update to G-RAES was test flown on 5 January last, the update certified and the aircraft returned to service on 13 January.

As BA are still fitting New First to their 744 fleet - G-CIVU entered service with the New First cabin as recently as last Sunday, 19 February - and have also just started to upgrade the cabins of their long haul 763s I suspect it will be quite some time before all the older 772s, including those based at LGW, will be upgraded.
 
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RE: BA A380 Fit Out

Wed Feb 22, 2012 11:16 am

Quoting mah4546 (Reply 31):
There aren't many trans-Atlantic routes with as much premium demand as MIALHR.

I have heard this claim before, but personal experience of flying F on the route does not fully support it. Perhaps it applies to J more than F.

My own, unscientific observations over the past year's travels have been:

March:
BA 207 LHR-MIA 3 in F
BA206 MIA-LHR 7 in F

May:
BA207 LHR-MIA 4 in F
BA208 MIA-LHR 8 in F

Oct:
BA209 LHR-MIA 2 in F
BA206 MIA-LHR 8 in F

Dec:
BA207 LHR-MIA 2 in F
Jan:
BA206 MIA-LHR 3 in F

Figures include myself.

I don't recall ever seeing a full F cabin. Heck, I'm a lowly silver, burning miles, yet I've always nabbed 1A or 1K !

The MIA-LHR sector numbers seem almost always inflated by op-ups from Club, which does nothing for cabin yield either.

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RE: BA A380 Fit Out

Wed Feb 22, 2012 12:55 pm

Quoting VV701 (Reply 32):
As BA are still fitting New First to their 744 fleet - G-CIVU entered service with the New First cabin as recently as last Sunday, 19 February

How is the New First conversion coming along on the LHR-based 772s? Is this fleet nearly complete?
 
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RE: BA A380 Fit Out

Wed Feb 22, 2012 1:15 pm

Quoting BlueShamu330s (Reply 33):
I have heard this claim before, but personal experience of flying F on the route does not fully support it. Perhaps it applies to J more than F.

I'm not basing anything on anecdotal personal experiences. I'm basing it on MIDT traffic data which shows its a high fare market with significant premium class demand, that also recently overtook BOSLON in market size, and where British Airways in 2010 had an excellent average one-way fare in excess of $1,300.

[Edited 2012-02-22 05:17:48]
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RE: BA A380 Fit Out

Wed Feb 22, 2012 2:42 pm

Quoting mah4546 (Reply 35):
I'm not basing anything on anecdotal personal experiences. I'm basing it on MIDT traffic data which shows its a high fare market with significant premium class demand, that also recently overtook BOSLON in market size, and where British Airways in 2010 had an excellent average one-way fare in excess of $1,300.

I'm not doubting what you say. All I was musing was whether the stats were more indicative of J class demand than to F demand.

My anecdotal personal experience suggests it might, that is all.  

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RE: BA A380 Fit Out

Wed Feb 22, 2012 2:52 pm

From the persepctive of a layman when will Airbus start 'making' (for want of a better word) the BA A380's ?

Just out of interest.
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RE: BA A380 Fit Out

Wed Feb 22, 2012 2:53 pm

The fact that passengers in all classes will actually be able to get out of their seat and move around in all cabins is all they need. There isn't any need for bigger seats.

BA wouldn't do a stand around bar very well or a duty free shop or spa, It's just not them.

If they want to maintain that unnecessarily high frequency to JFK they can't have luxury A380s on the same route as a little 777. They'd have to offer the same squeezed product on both.
and with that..cabin crew, seats for landing please.
 
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RE: BA A380 Fit Out

Wed Feb 22, 2012 3:08 pm

Quoting babybus (Reply 38):
If they want to maintain that unnecessarily high frequency to JFK

They have the high frequency because it connects two of the wealthiest cities on the planet that between them account for a huge proportion of the worlds financial industry.

Quoting babybus (Reply 38):
they can't have luxury A380s on the same route as a little 777. They'd have to offer the same squeezed product on both.

They won't have A380's on JFK. Isn't it metal neutral with AA for a start ? Saying that though AA are planning on upgrading their premium products so who knows ?

BA aren't ordering hundreds of A380's like EK, they won't just fling them anywhere. Especially on a frequency dependent route like JFK.
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RE: BA A380 Fit Out

Wed Feb 22, 2012 3:47 pm

Quoting AABB777 (Reply 34):
How is the New First conversion coming along on the LHR-based 772s? Is this fleet nearly complete?

No.

The early BA 772s, the three 772As (G-ZZZA to 'ZC) and the first fourteen 772ERs (G-RAES, G-V IIA to 'IH and 'IJ to 'IN), all but three of which are LHR based, were initially excluded from the conversion because they required very expensive total rewiring to update the IFE system to the latest AVOD systems.

However BA have now started to install not only the New First, but also both the New World Traveller Plus and World Traveller cabins and the latest Thales AVOD systems in these older aircraft. ( Note here that only BA's small fleet of new 77Ws have the new 'W' and 'M' Class cabins and the latest AVOD system.)

The first firsyt of the older 772s to be updated, G-RAES, was test flown on 5 January last, subsequently certified and returned to service on 13 January when it operated a flight to BOS. So one down and sixteen to go.
 
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RE: BA A380 Fit Out

Wed Feb 22, 2012 6:26 pm

Quoting mikey72 (Reply 37):
From the persepctive of a layman when will Airbus start 'making' (for want of a better word) the BA A380's ?

Just out of interest.

Construction has already started...or at least fabrication!
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RE: BA A380 Fit Out

Wed Feb 22, 2012 10:26 pm

Quoting tonystan (Reply 41):
Quoting mikey72 (Reply 37):
From the persepctive of a layman when will Airbus start 'making' (for want of a better word) the BA A380's ?

Just out of interest.

Construction has already started...or at least fabrication!

do we know when we will start to see them out and about? like when you see a totally green aircraft but with just the tail?
 
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RE: BA A380 Fit Out

Wed Feb 22, 2012 10:27 pm

Quoting mah4546 (Reply 35):
Quoting VV701 (Reply 32):
I suspect it will be quite some time before all the older 772s, including those based at LGW, will be upgraded

So looks like my flight to Grenada in late August will be creaky old First. At least they give out ipads now to replace the postage stamp sized screens.

It's a shame they slowed down the refit. I thought it was supposed to have been completed across the fleet by now.
 
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RE: BA A380 Fit Out

Thu Feb 23, 2012 7:21 am

Quoting JACK02116 (Reply 43):
So looks like my flight to Grenada in late August will be creaky old First

Oh...poor you !

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RE: BA A380 Fit Out

Thu Feb 23, 2012 8:50 am

Quoting babybus (Reply 38):

Baby bus, you say unessercery high frequency? You do realise its very nessercery? Hardly any flights go empty, they take a lot of premium traffic who come to BA/AA becuase of the frequency the carriers offering that route. This is one of the most competitive routes in the world, and for it to make money, frequency is key. We might see the 380 on one flight here and there, but I don't see frequency being cut becuase of it.
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RE: BA A380 Fit Out

Thu Feb 23, 2012 10:17 am

Quoting JACK02116 (Reply 43):
So looks like my flight to Grenada in late August will be creaky old First. At least they give out ipads now to replace the postage stamp sized screens.

It's a shame they slowed down the refit. I thought it was supposed to have been completed across the fleet by now

As stated above, the Gatwick fleet F refit to new F is due to be completed in April.
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RE: BA A380 Fit Out

Thu Feb 23, 2012 10:25 am

Quoting babybus (Reply 38):
If they want to maintain that unnecessarily high frequency to JFK they can't have luxury A380s on the same route as a little 777.

BA operate seven flights a day to JFK. Six are scheduled to be operated with 744s. The seventh, BA177, is currently operated by a 77W.From the start of the summer season BA are scheduling to operate a 77W on BA179 instead. There is no scheduled use of BA 772s on this route either currently or in the coming summer timetable. .

If BA had 380s today and if they operated them on the LHR-JFK I very much think that they would not reduce frequency but would use them to increase capacity.

It is frequently and correctly stated here on a-net that frequency is a key issue on this route, particularly to premium cabin O & D passengers. What is often overlooked is that frequency actually boosts passenger numbers. The virtual hourly service offered by AA and BA right across the day on the LHR-JFK sector maximises feed from second level European cities and from Asia and Africa. Whatever time a flight arrives at LHR there is a convenient transfer to a JFK flight. Similarly with flights from LHR arriving at JFK almost hourly from 11.00 in the morning, there is almost sure to be good connections with all afternoon and evening flights to a wide range of second level US destinations.

The net result is that frequency generates business in two ways. A frequency reduction will almost certainly result in business transferring to other operators. And that business will in many cases not just be lost from flights between LHR and JFK.
 
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RE: BA A380 Fit Out

Thu Feb 23, 2012 10:37 am

Quoting VV701 (Reply 47):
The net result is that frequency generates business in two ways. A frequency reduction will almost certainly result in business transferring to other operators. And that business will in many cases not just be lost from flights between LHR and JFK.

We are lucky to have you as a member W701. You're always spot on and have the facts and figures to prove it !
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RE: BA A380 Fit Out

Thu Feb 23, 2012 10:41 am

Quoting APYu (Reply 46):
As stated above, the Gatwick fleet F refit to new F is due to be completed in April.

From Business Traveller today:

http://www.businesstraveller.com/new.../baa-s-new-first-coming-to-gatwick

Looks like its starting in April, not finishing.

Still a step in the right direction.

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