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Syria: Current Problems And Aviation

Thu Feb 16, 2012 10:02 pm

Please delete if this has been discussed recently...

How is the situation in Syria affecting the commerical aviation industry there?

Have any airlines suspended operations to DAM? or any other airport in Syria? If yes, is it for security reasons or just because traffic has dropped off?

Is RB (Syrian Arab Airlines) operating normally?

It seems like problem areas in Damascus are fairly localized and not widespread but it is difficult to understand what is really going on there. My wife's family is from Syria and nothing is said on the phone for fear of the regime...
 
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RE: Syria: Current Problems And Aviation

Thu Feb 16, 2012 10:28 pm

Flights out of DAM are operating normally, but I'm not sure if there's an effect on the frequencies.

Syrian airspace usage is normal as well.

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RE: Syria: Current Problems And Aviation

Thu Feb 16, 2012 10:32 pm

bmi reduced daily flights to DAM down to 3 flights a week, and crew now operate there and back rather than laying over in Damascus - one of our favourite night stops.
 
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RE: Syria: Current Problems And Aviation

Thu Feb 16, 2012 10:38 pm

As things get uglier, expect that sanctions will be enacted by the west to isolate Syria. That will likely include their flag carrier. Aviation is an unfortunate casualty in such ugliness as we are seeing now.
 
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RE: Syria: Current Problems And Aviation

Thu Feb 16, 2012 11:40 pm

My understanding is that RB is state owned, which will mean that they are affected by any sanctions.

If the situation really kicks off, as it did in Libya, then flights will stop.

It could be security, sanctions, cost of insurance, collapse of Syrian economy or a combination of factors.
 
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RE: Syria: Current Problems And Aviation

Fri Feb 17, 2012 9:10 am

Quoting bwaflyer (Reply 2):

True, the cabin crew operate the return flight but there is a flight crew change & the "old" flight crew fly back as passengers. Lhr-Dam-Lhr is bang on crew hours
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RE: Syria: Current Problems And Aviation

Tue Feb 28, 2012 3:43 pm

All RB flight to AMS are cancelled for february and march. That has 2 reasons. Airbus is boycotting RB and does not deliver any aircraft parts anymore. As far as I know that effected two aircraft. So they need to cancel flights. And the AMS-DAM or BRU-AMS-ALP-DAM flights are as good as empty.

Does anybody know anything about all Freighters from Syria are banned from the European Union countries?

[Edited 2012-02-28 07:45:32]
 
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RE: Syria: Current Problems And Aviation

Tue Feb 28, 2012 9:00 pm

So are there Airbus now grounded?.
 
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RE: Syria: Current Problems And Aviation

Tue Feb 28, 2012 9:21 pm

Flights are operating normally but traffic has dropped considerably. AF is not operating non-stop anymore but as a tag on AMM flights (CDG-AMM-DAM)
 
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RE: Syria: Current Problems And Aviation

Tue Feb 28, 2012 11:22 pm

Quoting bennett123 (Reply 7):
So are there Airbus now grounded?.

No, all six A320's are operational.
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RE: Syria: Current Problems And Aviation

Tue Feb 28, 2012 11:25 pm

Saudia and NAS suspended all flights to Syria.
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RE: Syria: Current Problems And Aviation

Wed Feb 29, 2012 12:01 am

Quoting SonomaFlyer (Reply 3):
As things get uglier, expect that sanctions will be enacted by the west to isolate Syria. That will likely include their flag carrier. Aviation is an unfortunate casualty in such ugliness as we are seeing now.

There currently is a US embargo against Syria which great restricts the operation of Syrian Air as it limits the availability of some required parts for the A320 fleet.
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RE: Syria: Current Problems And Aviation

Wed Feb 29, 2012 7:36 am

AZ early in January stopped all the flights to Damascus till the end of the W12.
 
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RE: Syria: Current Problems And Aviation

Wed Feb 29, 2012 3:30 pm

All SU flights operating to DAM are on schedule and load factors have not really dropped. Crews are on normal rotation/layover at DAM. Just a bulletin saying to avoid groups of people and avoid going to areas with protestors.
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RE: Syria: Current Problems And Aviation

Thu Mar 01, 2012 11:16 am

Quoting Sky (Reply 6):
Does anybody know anything about all Freighters from Syria are banned from the European Union countries?

They are banned, but RB IMHO never operated scheduled cargo flights anyhow. They have a couple of An26 and the usual IL76 which are / have been opertated under RB probably for ad hoc charters, but where is the line drawn between civil and military operations here?
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RE: Syria: Current Problems And Aviation

Thu Mar 01, 2012 2:36 pm

What about the snow in Damascus yesterday? I would assume they don't have any deicing machines if it was required.

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