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UA 787 Domestic Routes?

Wed Feb 22, 2012 10:21 pm

I was wondering, has anybody here, herd any info on domestic routes the UA will fly their 787s on?
 
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RE: UA 787 Domestic Routes?

Wed Feb 22, 2012 10:26 pm

Since it is a CO 787, and will be flown by PMCO crew, *if* the past was any guide EWR-MCO or IAH-LAX would be good bets. But now-a-days it could be IAH-ORD just the same
 
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RE: UA 787 Domestic Routes?

Wed Feb 22, 2012 10:28 pm

Heard possible IAH SFO and IAH ORD to get crew and mtc familiarity up to speed. However that was sometime back,,,about 3 delayed delivery announcements from Boeing...grin. However...a domestic shakedown prior to the first longhaul is pretty much assured.
 
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RE: UA 787 Domestic Routes?

Wed Feb 22, 2012 10:33 pm

IAH-EWR-IAH   
 
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RE: UA 787 Domestic Routes?

Wed Feb 22, 2012 10:53 pm

My bet is on IAH-ORD...
 
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RE: UA 787 Domestic Routes?

Wed Feb 22, 2012 10:56 pm

IAH-SFO/ORD/EWR/MCO makes sense. Those are where the main maintenance bases are which is good for familiarization and also those cities can respond to any problems during entry into service. Also there is plenty of frequency and capacity on those routes to reroute passengers if there are problems.
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RE: UA 787 Domestic Routes?

Thu Feb 23, 2012 1:44 am

They possibly could do the IAD-LAX sector with the 787, even though its CO aircraft.
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RE: UA 787 Domestic Routes?

Thu Feb 23, 2012 2:00 am

Would be nice to see this bird in DEN. Unfortunately UA widebodies aren't as common in DEN like they used to be. Sigh...
 
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RE: UA 787 Domestic Routes?

Thu Feb 23, 2012 11:10 am

Is UA going to do what NH has done, and fly the 787 on domestic routes to get used to the plane, before launching IAH-AKL? I got the impression UA was only bent on launching AKL ASAP.
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RE: UA 787 Domestic Routes?

Thu Feb 23, 2012 11:26 am

Quoting tpaewr (Reply 1):
Since it is a CO 787, and will be flown by PMCO crew, *if* the past was any guide EWR-MCO or IAH-LAX would be good bets. But now-a-days it could be IAH-ORD just the same

I was under the impression that PMCO does not exist any longer?!
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RE: UA 787 Domestic Routes?

Thu Feb 23, 2012 12:11 pm

I would have thought it would make sense to fly IAH to all the hubs at some point. Apart from the fact they need to have these flights for familarity tests etc, what better way than to show boat the new 787 and promote her around the system. I am still hoping that UA will have some huge 787 somewhere on her when she rolls out, similar to NH.
 
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RE: UA 787 Domestic Routes?

Thu Feb 23, 2012 1:37 pm

Quoting UA933 (Reply 9):
I was under the impression that PMCO does not exist any longer?!

True. But since employee rosters have not been merged yet, and employees of PMCO get to operate PMCO aircrafts and PMUA get to operate PMUA aircrafts, internally they still have to operationally maintain the separation.
 
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RE: UA 787 Domestic Routes?

Thu Feb 23, 2012 1:39 pm

Quoting RWA380 (Reply 8):
before launching IAH-AKL?

When is this route slated to begin? When do seats go on sale?
 
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RE: UA 787 Domestic Routes?

Thu Feb 23, 2012 2:11 pm

Quoting RWA380 (Reply 8):
Is UA going to do what NH has done, and fly the 787 on domestic routes to get used to the plane, before launching IAH-AKL? I got the impression UA was only bent on launching AKL ASAP.

I'm almost certain it will fly domestically for a few weeks first.
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RE: UA 787 Domestic Routes?

Thu Feb 23, 2012 2:15 pm

Quoting tpaewr (Reply 1):

At the very least the starters will probalby be EWR-MCO and IAH-LAX -- per what has been mentioned on the forum.

Other possibilities I could see:
IAH-ORD (a given.)
EWR-IAH (a given.)
ORD-SFO
EWR-ORD
IAH-SFO
EWR-LAX (please?)
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RE: UA 787 Domestic Routes?

Thu Feb 23, 2012 2:50 pm

I'd say it will follow this routing:

EWR-MCO-IAH-LAX.
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RE: UA 787 Domestic Routes?

Thu Feb 23, 2012 2:52 pm

Quoting drerx7 (Reply 13):
I'm almost certain it will fly domestically for a few weeks first.

Eight weeks as per the Chief CO 787 pilot.
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RE: UA 787 Domestic Routes?

Thu Feb 23, 2012 2:56 pm

http://www.google.com/url?sa=t&rct=j...AFQjCNHwrd-pJC47phbXxZ14_vjrz4hWXA

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The U.S. launch customer, the Continental Airlines unit of United Continental Holdings Inc., plans to fly its new Dreamliners on domestic U.S. routes for six to eight weeks following expected delivery in the second half of next year, before shifting them to international destinations. Five planes out of Continental's 25-plane order—recently reduced from six—are due to arrive in 2012, three years behind schedule.
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Dave Lundy, Continental's 787 fleet captain, said the airline will initially fly domestic routes from its hubs in Houston and Newark to familiarize flight and ground staff with the plane, as well as between 50 and 100 hours of nonrevenue international flights.
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Continental will train between 22 and 24 pilots for each plane. The new aircraft are due to arrive at the rate of one every six or seven weeks next year, though some flight crews have already gone through a course provided by Boeing.
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The airline has to date only announced two potential 787 routes: a 7,400-mile trek from Houston to Auckland, New Zealand, and a shorter hop to Lagos, Nigeria, that it already flies with a larger Boeing 777. The plane will also likely be used on other routes with heavy business traffic, such as Newark to London Heathrow.
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RE: UA 787 Domestic Routes?

Thu Feb 23, 2012 3:05 pm

This is really anyone's guess...

I remember when CO took delivery of the 777 for example. The 777 was being rotated throughout the entire route system. It even made a stop in DEN (where I was living at the time), even though it was not a normal CO widebody station.

We can speculate all we want about the usual suspects, EWR-IAH for example. But these birds can visit at just about any city in the network that can handle it.
 
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RE: UA 787 Domestic Routes?

Thu Feb 23, 2012 3:05 pm

SEA-SFO or SEA-DEN.

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RE: UA 787 Domestic Routes?

Thu Feb 23, 2012 3:11 pm

Quoting Sulley (Reply 15):
EWR-MCO-IAH-LAX.

I've flown both the DC10 and the 764 on IAH-LAX.

There is no reason to believe the 787 won't also appear on that route   
 
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RE: UA 787 Domestic Routes?

Thu Feb 23, 2012 3:13 pm

On second thought I could definitely see the 787 making na appearance on DEN-ORD, considering it still sees a 777.
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RE: UA 787 Domestic Routes?

Thu Feb 23, 2012 3:20 pm

No worries A-Nutters, you'll likely see the 787 rotating though the system flying between hubs and perhaps making cameo appearances on such routes as SAN to IAH or EWR, SEA to IAH etc. Given the small number of a/c they'll receive initially, I'd expect the only international route they'll fly towards the end of 2012 is IAH to AKL and likely that won't happen until they receive at least three a/c and crews are familiarized.
 
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RE: UA 787 Domestic Routes?

Thu Feb 23, 2012 3:28 pm

Any update on the delivery dates? The article is a bit dated.

I'm sure UA would like to run the AKL route for the S. Hemisphere summer season. Wonder if they will go less than daily or just continue to delay the route.

If the run the 788 on AKL and LOS, doesn't that take all 5 planes and effectively domicile them at IAH? Not love for the other hubs until 2013 then.
 
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RE: UA 787 Domestic Routes?

Thu Feb 23, 2012 4:10 pm

I don't think it would be smart for UA to under utilize the 787 for domestic routes. They will use it for IAH to AKL and LOS. I hope they also use it for EWR-JNB, EWR-TPE, SFO-BKK, SFO-SIN and many others.
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RE: UA 787 Domestic Routes?

Thu Feb 23, 2012 4:30 pm

Im sure we'll see the 787 on any route the 762, 764 and 772 is currently on at some point in the future.
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RE: UA 787 Domestic Routes?

Thu Feb 23, 2012 4:55 pm

This was discussed less than a week ago; first domestic routes will be EWR-MCO and IAH-LAX.

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RE: UA 787 Domestic Routes?

Thu Feb 23, 2012 5:38 pm

Just did the IAH -LOS run on the tripple 7. Plane was only half full both ways.

787 will be perfect for this route until yeilds imrove.
 
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RE: UA 787 Domestic Routes?

Thu Feb 23, 2012 6:36 pm

When is United supposed to get their first 787??? It looks like its about to roll out.
 
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RE: UA 787 Domestic Routes?

Thu Feb 23, 2012 6:52 pm

When are first deliveries to UA/CO expected? I'm planning a trip to IAH in the fall. One possible routing is BCN-FRA-IAH with an A380 on FRA-IAH. Another option would be BCN-EWR-IAH, if I can get on a 787 on EWR-IAH. I had to wait 4 years (2007-2011) to get into my first A380. It would be fantastic to fly on a 787 in 2012, a mere 12 months after its EIS!
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RE: UA 787 Domestic Routes?

Thu Feb 23, 2012 7:44 pm

Quoting Africawings (Reply 27):
Just did the IAH -LOS run on the tripple 7. Plane was only half full both ways.

787 will be perfect for this route until yeilds imrove.

Things should pick back up when the rioting and instability settle down.

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RE: UA 787 Domestic Routes?

Thu Feb 23, 2012 9:34 pm

I suspect that there will not be any domestic runs in the short term. There may be enough time to make a positioning flight but with the few early deliveries they will probably want to do training whenever it is on the ground. After 6 or so have been delivered, they might make some domestic turns but they will probably be sent on the longest routes first so there may not be any availability.
 
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RE: UA 787 Domestic Routes?

Thu Feb 23, 2012 10:17 pm

Quoting AADC10 (Reply 31):
I suspect that there will not be any domestic runs in the short term. There may be enough time to make a positioning flight but with the few early deliveries they will probably want to do training whenever it is on the ground. After 6 or so have been delivered, they might make some domestic turns but they will probably be sent on the longest routes first so there may not be any availability.

There will definitely be domestic runs at the outset for familiarization as stated by the CO chief 787 pilot per STT's post. Now if you mean after all the familiarization is done, then yes I agree, I doubt you will see the 787 on many domestic runs except for positioning flights or swaps out of IAH...a la the 764. IAH-MSY/MCO/DEN are often the recipient of 762/764 swaps for 753s that have gone tech.
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RE: UA 787 Domestic Routes?

Thu Feb 23, 2012 10:41 pm

My guess is a fair amount of HOU-SFO. It's the perfect stage length for this kind of "training service." It's about 2.5 hours.

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RE: UA 787 Domestic Routes?

Thu Feb 23, 2012 10:48 pm

But before it enters ANY revenue service, where will it go upon delivery?
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RE: UA 787 Domestic Routes?

Fri Feb 24, 2012 12:15 pm

When will we see a 787 in full UA colors and what the lastest planned delivery date?
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