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747 & DC-10 First Crashes

Tue Oct 10, 2000 12:01 am

were the Lufthansa 747 crash in Nairobi and the Turkish airlines DC-10 crash in Paris both in 1974? were they the first crashes for both of these new airliners of that era? what was the worldwide reaction to them? isnt it strange that both new types crashed in the same year?
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RE: 747 & DC-10 First Crashes

Tue Oct 10, 2000 1:04 am

I believe they were the first crashes, although the DC10 came close to a loss in 1972, in the Windsor incident (near Buffalo) in a situation very similar to the THY DC10.

The LH 747 was not the first loss, although it was the first crash. JAL and Pan Am both lost 747s in terrorist related incidents in 1970.

It soon became clear that the 747 incident was pilot error and the death toll was not especially high; it was taken very seriously, as all accidents are, but it was of course dwarfed by the THY incident. The difference really came down to the fact that the DC10 crash was due to a fault in the aircraft and the 747 incident was not, although a modification was suggested to make sure a 747 could not take off with its leading edges retracted.
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RE: 747 & DC-10 First Crashes

Tue Oct 10, 2000 2:07 am

Likewise the first crash of an L-1011 in the Everglades outside of Miami. Eastern Airlines, Lockheed, Rolls Royce and the FAA were quite concerned about this investigation, as was the public. Lockheed was very anxious to not have a repeat of the problems with the L-188 Electra crashes back in the late 50's.

Turned out that the Eastern crash was the result of poor Cockpit Resource Management practices by the Captain and crew. One of the positive outcomes of this was improved CRM methods that have benefitted the entire community.
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RE: 747 & DC-10 First Crashes

Tue Oct 10, 2000 8:37 pm

i had seen a movie once about the Eastern crash it was about the captains spirit haunting Eastern planes , was that true, they say there were many sightings on board 
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