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One Happy Island - Caribbean Aviation Thread 95

Sat Feb 25, 2012 10:16 pm

Greetings to all A.net patrons!!!

Welcome to the 95th instalment of the Caribbean Aviation Thread. The island to which this thread is dedicated is the hub for a tiny, but efficient airline known as Tiara Air. Therefore, that makes the fun and sun island no other than ARUBA!




Aruba is a 33 km-long island of the Lesser Antilles in the southern Caribbean Sea, located 27 km north of the coast of Venezuela and approximately 130 km east of the Guajira Peninsula (Colombia). Together with Bonaire and Curaçao, it forms a group referred to as the ABC islands of the Leeward Antilles, the southern island chain of the Lesser Antilles.

Aruba enjoys one of the highest standards of living in the Caribbean region including a low unemployment rate. About three quarters of the Aruban gross national product is earned through tourism or related activities. Most tourists are from Venezuela and the United States. Unlike much of the Caribbean region, Aruba has a dry climate and an arid, cactus-strewn landscape. This climate has helped tourism as visitors to the island can reliably expect warm, sunny weather.



Palm Beach Aruba!

HISTORY

Aruba's path to the present day is marked by the mystery of ochre-colored rock drawings left behind by island shamans, the enterprising spirit of European adventurers and settlers and the diverse experiences and traditions brought by the many nationalities that have since sought out the island as either a new home or temporary resting place. The look of the people, the languages they speak and the innate hospitality that manifests itself in the Aruban psyche is the result of a multi-cultural mix that reflects a rich past.

The Caquetio Indians of the Arawak tribe from the South American mainland were Aruba's first inhabitants. During the Pre-ceramic Period of habitation (2500 BC – 1000 AD), they were fishers-hunters-gatherers who depended on the sea for survival and used tools of roughly flaked stones and shell. They lived in small family groups and fished along Aruba’s coast at locations now named Malmok and Palm Beach.

When Spanish explorer Alonso de Ojeda discovered Aruba in 1499 and claimed it for the Spanish throne, he named it la isla de los gigantes (Spanish: the island of giants), the tall Indians descended from Aruba’s very first settlers. After a decade, Aruba’s moniker was changed to isla inutíl, a useless island, as no gold or treasures were found.

Aruba’s strategic location was recognized by the Dutch who initially occupied the island in 1636 to protect their salt supply from the mainland and establish a naval base in the Caribbean during their 80-year war with Spain. Further economic development continued through the Dutch West India Company located on the neighboring island of Curaçao. Aruba remained in Dutch hands, except for a brief hiatus under English rule from 1805-1816, during the Napoleonic Wars.

(Courtesy Aruba's Official Tourism website)



QUICK ISLAND FACTS

Capital: Oranjestad
Airport: Queen Beatrix International Airport (AUA)
Population: 104-106,000
Majot Industries: Tourism, Petroleum, Mining



Tiara Air's newly leased B733 (P4-TIC) arrives in AUA. Second B733 expected to arrive in May. Airline plans to operate routes into Colombia, Venezuela and South Florida with their jet equipment.

******NEWS FEED******

St. Lucia and Dominica to invest in LI
CUR and SXM downgraded to Category 2 by FAA.
CAL drops its 4x weekly KIN-MIA-KIN flight
Air Caraibes to begin SDQ-ORY service with A333 on March 25
Air Panama looking at 2x weekly service PTY-GCM on F70/100
KX will begin service to both PTY and DFW
Sunquest to operate 2x weekly YHZ-NAS with 217-seat B752
CAL leases AtlasAir B744 to operate during Carnival season
LI returns 3 aircraft (2 DHC8-100s, 1 DHC8-300) as part of "refleeting process"
CAL inaugurates daily POS-SLU service with DHC8
CAL to get first ex LAN B763 in April
Dispute between Grenada and Taiwan may result in airport closure
Redjet accuses CAL of deceptive advertising
Tiara Air takes delivery of first B733
Redjet to begin 2x weekly service to SXM.
DAE announces on FB page an array of new routes planned for 2012

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RE: One Happy Island - Caribbean Aviation Thread 95

Sat Feb 25, 2012 10:53 pm

Unusual maneuvers at SXM:

The MD-82 looks positioned beyond the threshold of the runway:





The Twin Otter is even showing the door opened before takeoff:


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RE: One Happy Island - Caribbean Aviation Thread 95

Sat Feb 25, 2012 10:58 pm

Quoting SJOtoLIR (Reply 1):
The MD-82 looks positioned beyond the threshold of the runway:

they want to give the beachgoers and extra special blast
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RE: One Happy Island - Caribbean Aviation Thread 95

Sun Feb 26, 2012 12:57 am

Quoting BW424 (Thread starter):
Unlike much of the Caribbean region, Aruba has a dry climate and an arid, cactus-strewn landscape. This climate has helped tourism as visitors to the island can reliably expect warm, sunny weather.

And if tourist happen to be on the island when it rains, don't complain with the locals, as they probably will have quite an smile on their face. Every drop of water that pours down on Aruba is a well received blessing.

Quote:
Air Panama looking at 2x weekly service PTY-GCM on F70/100

Air Panama has 2 F70, no F100.

Quote:
KX will begin service to both PTY and DFW

When and why KX left IAH? Now it seems they want to try their luck with DFW. Is AA flying DFW-GCM?
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RE: One Happy Island - Caribbean Aviation Thread 95

Sun Feb 26, 2012 3:10 am

Someone asked if the GOL flight to BGI is still operating it is a Saturday only flight operated with the 737
 
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RE: One Happy Island - Caribbean Aviation Thread 95

Sun Feb 26, 2012 3:18 am

Quoting BW424 (Thread starter):
ARUBA!

LOVE IT!

Why couldn't you have provided a pic of the Marriott Surf Club?!! lol My wife and I were there for our honeymoon. Flew AA on PHL-MIA-AUA.

What is Tiara's long term plan? Are there any other plans for airlines to expand to other regions in the US at any time besides Florida? I remember reading in a thread about airport "wish lists" and my hometown (PIT) was high on the wish list for AUA.
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RE: One Happy Island - Caribbean Aviation Thread 95

Sun Feb 26, 2012 3:37 am

Quoting 2travel2know2 (Reply 3):
When and why KX left IAH? Now it seems they want to try their luck with DFW. Is AA flying DFW-GCM?

KX use to fly IAH, then when CO came into the route, they dropped it for CO and codeshared for a bit, and then KX dropped the codeshare (which seems to be the norm now for KX, I dont think they have really any Codeshares...... shame!)

with the recent drop of frequency on the IAH route by CO (last year it was nearly daily, now seems to be weekends only now) I would think that they dont want to restart the route up to steal some PAX from CO, but rather try another Texas city which again has a big US airline at!
I know AA dont like to try new routes unless they are pretty confident they will succeed, but this to me is a route that AA should do to GCM. They have the opportunity for connecting PAX from the Central/West and even Canada for GCM. KX is only interested in O+D it seems which to me is a fail. KX has the pickings atm with AA in the state its in tho!

The route to Panama again will be a good addition, but I want to see it from CM! KX will have again the opportunity to make money on this route, but they need to CODESHARE! Help out others travelling onwards and not just the O+D traffic!
Now if Air Panama fly it on the F70, its a great little aircraft to start the operation on! Not too big and still a jet! Be nice to see more variety here in GCM!


Anyone got any shots of the B744 in POS for carnival? Wish i could of been there this year but was on training in MIA. Maybe 2013 I hit up T&T for Carnival!
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RE: One Happy Island - Caribbean Aviation Thread 95

Sun Feb 26, 2012 3:46 am

Quoting BW424 (Thread starter):
Air Panama looking at 2x weekly service PTY-GCM on F70


With that being said, it seems that the [Panama City - Grand Cayman] segment wouldn't be operated by CM mainline.
Related to Panama City, perhaps that flight would leave from PAC instead.




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Quoting baje427 (Reply 4):
Someone asked if the GOL flight to BGI is still operating it is a Saturday only flight operated with the 737


I did the question in the old thread.
So the 763 is no longer in service into [GRU-BGI].

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RE: One Happy Island - Caribbean Aviation Thread 95

Sun Feb 26, 2012 4:43 am

Thanks BW424 for the new forum once again.

Quoting divemaster08 (Reply 6):
Anyone got any shots of the B744 in POS for carnival? Wish i could of been there this year but was on training in MIA. Maybe 2013 I hit up T&T for Carnival!
http://a1.sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-ash4/426991_10150589391230233_551385232_9430889_1043677084_n.jpg

http://sphotos.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ash4/420432_10150586004985233_551385232_9417846_2061428050_n.jpg

http://sphotos.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-snc7/425782_10150586003445233_551385232_9417845_136856843_n.jpg

http://sphotos.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-snc7/421807_2701830341530_1129840145_31939879_1376518003_n.jpghttp://sphotos.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-snc7/428126_10150794084901038_723866037_12422622_2097815677_n.jpg

http://sphotos.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ash4/397137_10150794071101038_723866037_12422605_666612013_n.jpg

http://sphotos.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ash4/419120_2635413681155_1129840145_31917034_1158997614_n.jpg

The two 767 destine for CAL
http://sphotos.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ash4/403369_2641251467096_1129840145_31919355_834442856_n.jpg

http://sphotos.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-snc7/422210_2641154544673_1129840145_31919276_606511496_n.jpg
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RE: One Happy Island - Caribbean Aviation Thread 95

Sun Feb 26, 2012 6:17 am

Quoting 2travel2know2 (Reply 3):
Air Panama has 2 F70, no F100.

Appreciate the correction....if only I could make the correction in the thread header.....

Quoting SJOtoLIR (Reply 1):

Well, those "unusual" maneuvers referred to are quickly becoming or already are usual occurrences.

Quoting steeler83 (Reply 5):
LOVE IT!

Why couldn't you have provided a pic of the Marriott Surf Club?!! lol My wife and I were there for our honeymoon. Flew AA on PHL-MIA-AUA.

Well to be honest........time constraints prevented me from providing more info on the island. I normally include a couple more shots and info in thread headers. Sorry about that.

BTW, Happy 6th A.net birthday!

Quoting steeler83 (Reply 5):
What is Tiara's long term plan? Are there any other plans for airlines to expand to other regions in the US at any time besides Florida? I remember reading in a thread about airport "wish lists" and my hometown (PIT) was high on the wish list for AUA.

Well, from what i know, they're looking further up the east coast in the JFK/BOS area. But that will most likely be in the 4-6yrs from now if things are still rosy with them.
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RE: One Happy Island - Caribbean Aviation Thread 95

Sun Feb 26, 2012 12:53 pm

Quoting 2travel2know2 (Reply 3):
When and why KX left IAH? Now it seems they want to try their luck with DFW. Is AA flying DFW-GCM?

KXs has a policy (As a gov't entity) of starting routes that the gov't would like to see other airlines pick up, then hand them over to other carriers once the route is established. Think of it as the gov'ts version of a rev guarantee or a way to prove to the AA, CO, CMs of the world that the route can work.
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RE: One Happy Island - Caribbean Aviation Thread 95

Sun Feb 26, 2012 1:07 pm

Quoting BW424 (Thread starter):
Topic Air of Belize to start BZE-LCE 2x weekly starting March 4
Isn't Tropic Air into BZE-SAP 3x weekly which is due to start on March 12th?


They had to rejuggle the startup sequence and will actually start BZE-SAP with RTB and LCE to follow by the end of the year.
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RE: One Happy Island - Caribbean Aviation Thread 95

Sun Feb 26, 2012 1:16 pm

Can anyone confirm that these are the 767's for CAL? One looks like its GE powered and the other is PW powered. It would be strange for CAL to acquire two 767's with different engine choices.
 
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RE: One Happy Island - Caribbean Aviation Thread 95

Sun Feb 26, 2012 8:09 pm

Quoting 2travel2know2 (Reply 3):
And if tourist happen to be on the island when it rains, don't complain with the locals, as they probably will have quite an smile on their face. Every drop of water that pours down on Aruba is a well received blessing.

Last winter was one of the wettest in a long time. Water was ankle deep in front of the Renaissance and in front of the hotels at Palm Beach.

Quoting steeler83 (Reply 5):
What is Tiara's long term plan? Are there any other plans for airlines to expand to other regions in the US at any time besides Florida? I remember reading in a thread about airport "wish lists" and my hometown (PIT) was high on the wish list for AUA.

I would think that NY, NJ and New England have to be high on the list. You hear a lot of those accents on the beaches and in the restaurants.
 
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RE: One Happy Island - Caribbean Aviation Thread 95

Sun Feb 26, 2012 10:23 pm

Quoting silentbob (Reply 13):
What is Tiara's long term plan? Are there any other plans for airlines to expand to other regions in the US at any time besides Florida? I remember reading in a thread about airport "wish lists" and my hometown (PIT) was high on the wish list for AUA.

I know the Venezuela-ABC's market is saturated, so I hope they have south american on their plans! ;D
 
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RE: One Happy Island - Caribbean Aviation Thread 95

Sun Feb 26, 2012 11:23 pm

Quoting SJOtoLIR (Reply 7):
So the 763 is no longer in service into [GRU-BGI].

Correct, the 767 has been gone for almost a year. 738's all the way since April 2011.
 
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RE: One Happy Island - Caribbean Aviation Thread 95

Mon Feb 27, 2012 12:22 am

Quoting windian425 (Reply 12):
Can anyone confirm that these are the 767's for CAL? One looks like its GE powered and the other is PW powered. It would be strange for CAL to acquire two 767's with different engine choices.

It was mentioned internally, not sure if an engine change will take place for both to be GE.

"A Condor Boeing 767-300, registration D-ABUE performing flight DE-5123 from Bridgetown (Barbados) to Frankfurt/Main (Germany), was enroute about 45 minutes into the flight when the crew descended the aircraft and returned to Bridgetown for a safe landing."
http://avherald.com/h?article=44b7784b&opt=0

Caribbean tourism up slightly in '11 despite economic crisis
"The Caribbean Tourism Organization says 23.8 million tourists visited the region in 2011, a 3.3 per cent increase from 2010. Statistician Sean Smith said the number of arrivals rose every month except May and October"
http://news.yahoo.com/report-caribbe...ite-economic-crisis-180122874.html

Grenadian PM Criticizes Problems at Intl Airport
St. Georges, Feb 20 (Prensa Latina) The financial problems currently threatening the closure of the Maurice Bishop international airport in this capital could have been avoided, according to Grenadian Prime Minister Tillman Thomas.
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RE: One Happy Island - Caribbean Aviation Thread 95

Mon Feb 27, 2012 1:00 am

Quoting andrefranca (Reply 14):
I know the Venezuela-ABC's market is saturated, so I hope they have south american on their plans! ;D

From what I understand the economy down where you are is doing well. If so, I would expect some flights to offset the prime seasons for North American tourism.
 
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RE: One Happy Island - Caribbean Aviation Thread 95

Mon Feb 27, 2012 2:43 am

Here are some more aviation videos from my last trip to Trinidad and Tobago

TAB HD Caribbean Airlines ATR-72-600 Landing Crown Point Tobago Avions de Transport Régional
http://youtu.be/bteP8-IJZLQ?hd=1


HD POS Continental & Copa Airlines Operations at Piarco International Airport Port of Spain Trinidad
http://youtu.be/aGwoIPyev_8?hd=1


POS HD Caribbean Airlines ATR-72-600 Landing Port of Spain Trinidad Avions de Transport
http://youtu.be/nPBxk2iemW8?hd=1


HD Inside 737-700 Copa Airlines First Class Clase Ejecutiva & Coach Economy Cabin Boeing Port of Spain
http://youtu.be/CKW8jks4J_4?hd=1


HD POS Piarco International Airport Port of Spain Trindidad Carvinal Decrations 2012 & Operations
http://youtu.be/eP2HKp8OSjM?hd=1


TAB HD Caribbean Airlines ATR-72-600 Take-Off Crown Point Tobago Avions de Transport Régional
http://youtu.be/Qdh7T8kX29c?hd=1
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RE: One Happy Island - Caribbean Aviation Thread 95

Mon Feb 27, 2012 3:45 am

Quoting windian425 (Reply 12):
Can anyone confirm that these are the 767's for CAL? One looks like its GE powered and the other is PW powered. It would be strange for CAL to acquire two 767's with different engine choices.

Yes, it has been somewhat confirmed. As for the engine choices, I really am not privy to any details as to why it turned out that way. Also seems sort of inefficient to me to have such a small sub-fleet with two different engine installations.
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RE: One Happy Island - Caribbean Aviation Thread 95

Mon Feb 27, 2012 4:41 am

Quoting CO777DAL (Reply 18):
HD POS Continental & Copa Airlines Operations at Piarco International Airport Port of Spain Trinidad

CM's check-in and boarding area always look that empty?
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RE: One Happy Island - Caribbean Aviation Thread 95

Mon Feb 27, 2012 4:55 am

Quoting 2travel2know2 (Reply 20):
CM's check-in and boarding area always look that empty?

Nope. Their flights are always full or near full as they've captured a substantial amount of the market going to South America. They come in the early afternoon and leave in the late afternoon.
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RE: One Happy Island - Caribbean Aviation Thread 95

Mon Feb 27, 2012 5:53 am

Quoting 2travel2know2 (Reply 20):

When I flew POS-PTY with CM the flight was 70% full.  
Quoting silentbob (Reply 17):
From what I understand the economy down where you are is doing well. If so, I would expect some flights to offset the prime seasons for North American tourism.

Yes but there's not too much options! and fair prices either!
 
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RE: One Happy Island - Caribbean Aviation Thread 95

Mon Feb 27, 2012 5:53 am

Quoting BW424 (Reply 21):
Their flights are always full or near full as they've captured a substantial amount of the market going to South America.

Sure is the airline of choice for POS-Mexico and POS-HAV now too.
How is it with POS-LAX traffic?
Sure it's small numbers but POS-LAX via PTY may be more convenient/comfortable than via MIA or IAH.
Sadly PTY-LAS-PTY wont' make immediate connections to/from POS at PTY.
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RE: One Happy Island - Caribbean Aviation Thread 95

Mon Feb 27, 2012 7:26 am

Quoting 2travel2know2 (Reply 20):
CM's check-in and boarding area always look that empty?

That was a fairly empty flight. There was only 4 of us in all of First Class. There was one person in 1A and 1B and 1F. I was in 2A and all other seats empty. Coach wasn't full either. The thing I like was I guess Copa served meal order by status, because the F/A asked me before anyone in row 1. The he went to the guy in 1F and the couple in 1A and B.
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RE: One Happy Island - Caribbean Aviation Thread 95

Mon Feb 27, 2012 12:36 pm

Passing through ANU on a late afternoon Friday recently, I was wondering if the chaos I experienced is the norm?

The terminal airside was very very crowded, with no boards displaying any useful information and the public announcments being not understandable at all. The result was lots of passengers were clustered around a poor security guy who was controlling access from the central waiting area to the gates and had to answer questions like "has boarding for flight XY1123 started yet" at 10 second intervals. I noticed quite a few passengers who were really stressed out/worried and the place looked to me very un-organized, quite in contrast to other "transit hubs" in the Caribbean through which I transited (e.g. POS, CUR, BGI and SXM). I can easily imagine that passengers who have gone through this once or twice will try to avoid travelling through ANU if they there is an alternative....
 
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RE: One Happy Island - Caribbean Aviation Thread 95

Mon Feb 27, 2012 2:39 pm

Quoting vfw614 (Reply 25):

It pretty much is the norm, if I had the choice to transit through anywhere else I would, but unfortunately for me to get back to MNI, I would have no other choice but to go to ANU since its pretty much the only destination scheduled from MNI, to get anywhere else would require a charter
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RE: One Happy Island - Caribbean Aviation Thread 95

Mon Feb 27, 2012 3:44 pm

Interesting. While some of the problems are obviously related to the inadequate terminal itself, others could be rectified with little cost, e.g. installation of some display boards or of better loudspeakers.
 
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RE: One Happy Island - Caribbean Aviation Thread 95

Mon Feb 27, 2012 5:42 pm

Quoting vfw614 (Reply 27):
e.g. installation of some display boards or of better loudspeakers.

true, I really think that would help alot, in terms of the terminal, I remember seeing some plans for a new terminal at ANU to replace the current one, not sure if those plans are still in place, im sure others here would have more info regarding that.
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RE: One Happy Island - Caribbean Aviation Thread 95

Mon Feb 27, 2012 6:25 pm

Quoting vfw614 (Reply 25):

How can ANU be so bad when it is a major hub for LIAT which might have as many as 5 planes leaving at the same time?
 
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RE: One Happy Island - Caribbean Aviation Thread 95

Mon Feb 27, 2012 7:22 pm

Quoting vfw614 (Reply 25):
Passing through ANU on a late afternoon Friday recently, I was wondering if the chaos I experienced is the norm?

The terminal airside was very very crowded, with no boards displaying any useful information and the public announcments being not understandable at all. The result was lots of passengers were clustered around a poor security guy who was controlling access from the central waiting area to the gates and had to answer questions like "has boarding for flight XY1123 started yet" at 10 second intervals. I noticed quite a few passengers who were really stressed out/worried and the place looked to me very un-organized, quite in contrast to other "transit hubs" in the Caribbean through which I transited (e.g. POS, CUR, BGI and SXM). I can easily imagine that passengers who have gone through this once or twice will try to avoid travelling through ANU if they there is an alternative....

Yes it is very confusing now since they moved the boarding "gates" to a different area.. It was never a problem before but now there is a large gift store where the boarding gates were before and a narrow passageway leading around to where the new boarding gates. Even though there are some signs pointing to the departure gate area, it is impossible to see around the corner where the gates are actually located so persons are often confused as to whether their flights are boarding or not. Up to last week when I travelled, i noticed some confused passengers. The announcements are pretty loud and clear though. It only gets more chaotic on busy days when up to 7 or 8 big jets are boarding around the same time plus liat and other regional prop flights. A pet peve for me is the fact that the airport is not equipped with depature/arrival monitors!! I noted that even little viggie airport (SLU) had arrival/depature monitors! This would greatly help this issue but I gather that won't be happening until the new terminal is completed.

Quoting 817Dreamliiner (Reply 28):
true, I really think that would help alot, in terms of the terminal, I remember seeing some plans for a new terminal at ANU to replace the current one, not sure if those plans are still in place, im sure others here would have more info regarding that.

It broke ground several months back and is now under construction. Expected to be completed in 2014....The drawings look really impressive complete with boarding bridges and the latest technologies.
 
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RE: One Happy Island - Caribbean Aviation Thread 95

Mon Feb 27, 2012 7:31 pm

Quoting wadadli (Reply 30):

It broke ground several months back and is now under construction. Expected to be completed in 2014....The drawings look really impressive complete with boarding bridges and the latest technologies.

Well thats good news, the current terminal is pretty dated in my opinion, and yes the artist impressions were impressive from what I remember seeing
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RE: One Happy Island - Caribbean Aviation Thread 95

Mon Feb 27, 2012 9:59 pm

Quoting BW424 (Reply 9):
Well to be honest........time constraints prevented me from providing more info on the island. I normally include a couple more shots and info in thread headers. Sorry about that.

Hahaha! It's all good.  
Quoting silentbob (Reply 13):
I would think that NY, NJ and New England have to be high on the list. You hear a lot of those accents on the beaches and in the restaurants.

Oh don't I know that! I was trying to pick up our car rental down there and some pompous jerk (I guess from New York) but right in front of me to ask a dumb question to the girl working at the counter. I said, "geez, what an asshole! Must be from New York." There was a couple next to me and they started laughing at that comment. They happened to be from Boston!   (BTW, there are plenty of NY'ers who are nice and friendly; guys like him just give you all a bad name! Everyy city has their fair share of 'em!)
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RE: One Happy Island - Caribbean Aviation Thread 95

Mon Feb 27, 2012 10:17 pm

Quoting vfw614 (Reply 25):

When I was there I was arriving from SKB, the flight took 15 minutes! and to clear the immigration it took me more than 1 HOUR! cause there was a VS flight arriving from london with the fatties and families! OMG, I wanted the death!
On my way out I could listen to the LIAT lady but many pax were confused and went to board the wrong flight and were told to go back, after having their carry on inspected they refused and then the nice lady "go back to the waiting room or I'll have you removed"  GOD, I wonder if she was in brazil, she'd be punched in 1.... 2....  
 
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RE: One Happy Island - Caribbean Aviation Thread 95

Tue Feb 28, 2012 8:25 am

http://www.trinidadexpress.com/busin..._to_Grenada_airport-140253673.html

It's interesting how Trinidadian newspapers love to report about every tiniest irregularity at Liat or CAL, but have failed to report how BA have cancelled their Tobago flight last Saturday and left most passengers stranded for 4 days...

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RE: One Happy Island - Caribbean Aviation Thread 95

Tue Feb 28, 2012 9:18 am

Quoting BW985 (Reply 34):

It's interesting how Trinidadian newspapers love to report about every tiniest irregularity at Liat or CAL, but have failed to report how BA have cancelled their Tobago flight last Saturday and left most passengers stranded for 4 days...

Yes that BA flight got cancelled on Saturday, I saw it on the popular website, The BA Source (www.thebasource.com). It appears that this was a technical issue as the next day a LGW - MCO service, which would also use the 777-200, was cancelled too.

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RE: One Happy Island - Caribbean Aviation Thread 95

Wed Feb 29, 2012 2:04 am

I was thinking it would be awesome if BW did a special livery or a sticker to celebrate Jamaica and The Republic of Trinidad and Tobago reaching 50 years as independent states. This could be done with the introduction of the two 767 this summer, one dedicated to POS other to KIN.

While I would love a complete special livery I think a simple sticker would do. Perhaps the sticker could incorporate the national flower of each state. Personally I would love to a see a livery inspired by the Trinidad and Tobago flag... yes a red plane LOL but practically I think the sticker would be more practical and less costly. As for the Jamaica sticker I am not to sure I am not a huge fan of their national colors but I am pretty sure a stunning livery of the green gold and black could be easily accomplished.


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RE: One Happy Island - Caribbean Aviation Thread 95

Wed Feb 29, 2012 11:37 am

REDjet has finally launched its SXM service... Flights operate non-stop from BGI every Tuesday and Saturday starting 19th May, 2012. Flights will allow for a fully day in SXM, arriving at 8:15AM and departing back to BGI at 8:15PM.
 
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RE: One Happy Island - Caribbean Aviation Thread 95

Wed Feb 29, 2012 12:57 pm

Quoting windian425 (Reply 37):
REDjet has finally launched its SXM service... Flights operate non-stop from BGI every Tuesday and Saturday starting 19th May, 2012. Flights will allow for a fully day in SXM, arriving at 8:15AM and departing back to BGI at 8:15PM.

Is this right? arrive at 8:15 AM and leave at 8:15PM? would this be with more than 1 flight on the days noted? If not, thats highly inefficient if you ask me, especially for a LCC
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RE: One Happy Island - Caribbean Aviation Thread 95

Wed Feb 29, 2012 12:57 pm

Quoting BW424 (Thread starter):
CUR and SXM downgraded to Category 2 by FAA.

I don't understand why this is brought up again as it was mentioned in the previous thead already!!! I also mentioned the two additional loading bridges that have arrived in CUR to be installed, why is this not mentioned? Copa Airlines will also start times weekly flights to CUR, this was mentioned in the previous thread as well. Why not mention this now? Why do the negative things always seem to stick to people's mind? Is it more exciting news to read?

DAE first ATR42 has been in CUR already, no clear date as to when it will be put into service.

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RE: One Happy Island - Caribbean Aviation Thread 95

Wed Feb 29, 2012 1:14 pm

Quoting 817Dreamliiner (Reply 38):

I think the aircraft continues on to KIN and then returns to SXM
 
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RE: One Happy Island - Caribbean Aviation Thread 95

Wed Feb 29, 2012 1:25 pm

Quoting windian425 (Reply 37):

Is there any word on the other routes RD will start since Ian Burns mentioned that the route cuts made were in an effort to launch new routes.
 
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RE: One Happy Island - Caribbean Aviation Thread 95

Wed Feb 29, 2012 1:27 pm

Quoting baje427 (Reply 40):
I think the aircraft continues on to KIN and then returns to SXM

Well, their route map doesn't show this continuation to KIN, but I guess it will be added later if at all
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RE: One Happy Island - Caribbean Aviation Thread 95

Wed Feb 29, 2012 1:28 pm

Quoting 817Dreamliiner (Reply 38):
Is this right? arrive at 8:15 AM and leave at 8:15PM? would this be with more than 1 flight on the days noted? If not, thats highly inefficient if you ask me, especially for a LCC
Quoting baje427 (Reply 40):
I think the aircraft continues on to KIN and then returns to SXM

With that amount of time, the aircraft could fly SXM-KIN-NAS or SXM-KIN-HAV (!) or SXM-KIN-BZE (!!) and back.
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RE: One Happy Island - Caribbean Aviation Thread 95

Wed Feb 29, 2012 4:30 pm

Quoting 2travel2know2 (Reply 43):
With that amount of time, the aircraft could fly SXM-KIN-NAS or SXM-KIN-HAV (!) or SXM-KIN-BZE (!!) and back.

Exactly, and they dont show any continuation on their route map the last time I checked. If this is the case, then they should at least put it on the routemap
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RE: One Happy Island - Caribbean Aviation Thread 95

Wed Feb 29, 2012 6:06 pm

I see BW610 stopped in ANU today. Strong headwinds to YYZ?

http://flightaware.com/live/flight/B...0/history/20120229/1519Z/TAPA/CYYZ
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RE: One Happy Island - Caribbean Aviation Thread 95

Wed Feb 29, 2012 8:48 pm

Quoting A388 (Reply 39):
Why do the negative things always seem to stick to people's mind? Is it more exciting news to read?

We've being talking about that too.... I posted on last thread the route map of DAE with their new routes for 2012!
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Quoting 817Dreamliiner (Reply 38):
Is this right? arrive at 8:15 AM and leave at 8:15PM? would this be with more than 1 flight on the days noted? If not, thats highly inefficient if you ask me, especially for a LCC

Very very strange, or we are antecipating ourselves or Ian really doesn't know what' he's doin' on the airline industry...

Rumors (even coming from the crew) here in MAO are getin' stronger that Trip airlines T3 a big regional carrier in Brazil until now is doing charters to AUA but the service is soon to be scheduled!  
 
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RE: One Happy Island - Caribbean Aviation Thread 95

Wed Feb 29, 2012 9:17 pm

Quoting andrefranca (Reply 46):
Very very strange, or we are antecipating ourselves or Ian really doesn't know what' he's doin' on the airline industry...

Well, the only thing I could give them credit for is advertising a full day in SXM for shopping, etc, other than that, it would be hard to believe that they would let an aircraft sit in SXM for 12 hours, also from their own press release it doesnt mention any continuation of the flight from SXM:

http://www.flyredjet.com/en/news/redjet-sets-sights-on-st-maarten
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RE: One Happy Island - Caribbean Aviation Thread 95

Wed Feb 29, 2012 9:29 pm

Quoting baje427 (Reply 40):
I think the aircraft continues on to KIN and then returns to SXM

This is no longer under consideration, at least for the time being.
 
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RE: One Happy Island - Caribbean Aviation Thread 95

Wed Feb 29, 2012 11:45 pm

Quoting windian425 (Reply 48):

Redjet will keep a plane unused all day and then blame CAL/LIAT when their lossses mount. They didnt think thru their marketing and have themselve sonly to blame.