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Indian Aviation Thread: Part 96

Thu Mar 01, 2012 4:12 pm

Indian Aviation Thread: Part 95 (by LAXDESI Nov 21 2011 in Civil Aviation)
Part 95 has hit 200 posts, so its time for a part 96!

Turkish Airlines and Air India sign a codeshare agreement:
http://www.moneycontrol.com/news/bus...-shareturkish-airlines_675618.html

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The national carrier Air India today signed a code-share deal with Turkish Airlines which will allow the latter's passengers connect to Air India flights on the Hyderabad, Chennai, Ahmedabad, Bangalore, Kolkata and Amritsar routes.

The deal will also allow both the airlines to market each other's flights by their own code and flight numbers on a free sale basis, a Turkish Airline statement said.

...

Even after being rejected by Star Alliance, it looks like Air India is continually improving bonds with Star Carriers...
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Fri Mar 02, 2012 5:38 pm

Quoting aeroblogger (Thread starter):
Turkish Airlines and Air India sign a codeshare agreement:

Good move. I plan on flying Turkish in the future from LAX to MAA with stops in IST(sightseeing) and BOM(visit sister).

Indigo to hike frequencies on domestic, international routes.
http://www1.economictimes.indiatimes...al-routes/articleshow/12112403.cms

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No-frills carrier Indigo Airlines said it will increase frequencies on the domestic and international routes this summer as it adds nine aircraft to its fleet by the year end.

He said the airline plans to add nine aircraft to its fleet this calendar year, taking the total fleet size to 60.
 
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Sat Mar 03, 2012 5:44 am

Kingfisher misses deadline, more accounts frozen.
http://www1.economictimes.indiatimes...ts-frozen/articleshow/12117550.cms

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The service tax department has frozen some more bank accounts of debt-crippled Kingfisher Airlines for missing the deadline for clearing dues. Vijay Mallya-promoted Kingfisher had been given time till Wednesday to pay Rs 10 crore as arrears, but it could not meet the deadline till evening. Following this, the department attached all the bank accounts of the airline.

Kingfisher was allowed to operate some accounts on the promise that it would pay up by February 29. A senior service tax official said the airline's management is in talks with CBEC officials to resolve the issue. Kingfisher declined to comment on the matter. The income-tax (IT) department, too, has frozen the airline's bank accounts for non-payment of TDS (tax deducted at source) dues of over Rs 300 crore. Senior officials said the repayment schedule offered by the airline was not acceptable to the department.
 
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Sat Mar 03, 2012 8:27 am

So why did the runway at BLR fail? Interesting piece...
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Mon Mar 05, 2012 4:58 pm

SpiceJet foresees tough times marred by high fuel and interest cost.
http://www1.economictimes.indiatimes...eil-mills/articleshow/12144595.cms

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Budget carrier SpiceJet's chief executive Neil Mills feels the aviation sector, marred by high fuel and interest cost in the coming fiscal, will continue to face "tough operating conditions".

"I think the tough conditions will continue for a while in the coming fiscal. Our futures are pegged with oil prices and they are very high right now," Mills said in an interview.

Jet fuel now constitutes about 50 percent of the total operating cost of airlines in India. Domestic airlines are estimated to have lost around Rs.3,000 crore in the first six months of this fiscal.
 
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Mon Mar 05, 2012 10:47 pm

Does anyone have any suggestions for transit hotels at DEL? I'll have about 12h - scheduled to arrive from IXC at 6 PM and then out at 6 AM the next morning with RJ. Should be a fun trip, but I'd love to catch at least a few hours of sleep and have a proper meal. Has anyone stayed at the on-airport facility (Eaton)? The website is very confusing - it looks like it's inside security and you can't leave as it's in a "transit" area. Very strange. Would appreciate any suggestions. Thanks in advance!
 
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Tue Mar 06, 2012 7:15 am

It's not all doom and gloom for India's embattled airline sector.
http://www1.economictimes.indiatimes...urbulence/articleshow/12157847.cms

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IndiGo, a low-fare carrier launched in 2006, has climbed to second place in market share at the expense of Air India and Kingfisher Airlines and is the only one of India's six main carriers making a profit, for now at least.

IndiGo also sells and leases back its planes, sparing its balance sheet and allowing itself to maintain a young fleet. Industry watchers say there is no great secret to IndiGo's success, which they attribute to rigid adherence to a disciplined business plan, a task that grows more complex as the 50-plane airline adds a new plane every month.

IndiGo has 21 percent of the domestic market, behind the combined low-cost and premium operations of Jet Airways, but up from its 17 percent share at the end of 2010. The Centre for Asia Pacific Aviation (CAPA) expects IndiGo to take the top spot from Jet in a few months in an aviation market that grew 17 percent in 2011 and is expected to expand by about 12 percent annually over the next few years.

Last year, IndiGo placed what was then the biggest-ever commercial airline order for 180 Airbus A320s worth $16 billion to be delivered starting in 2015 when an earlier 100-plane order is completed. It also began flying to a handful of foreign destinations using the same narrow-body plane type.

The airline has said it would consider an IPO, but Ghosh said recently it has no current plans to do so. IndiGo says it earned 6.5 billion rupees ($131 million) in the fiscal year that ended last March, a result that Kingfisher's Mallya has questioned.
 
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Thu Mar 08, 2012 12:57 am

IT suspended from the IATA Clearing House yet again.

http://www.thehindu.com/business/companies/article2970627.ece
 
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Thu Mar 15, 2012 2:52 pm

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RE: Indian Aviation Thread: Part 96

Sun Mar 18, 2012 4:50 am

http://www.rediff.com/business/slide...oeings-787-dreamliner/20120317.htm

pictures of the AI 787 from HYD... the Y seat colors are not quiet "classy"..... anyone been there?
 
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RE: Indian Aviation Thread: Part 96

Mon Mar 19, 2012 8:07 am

DGCA does not seem to have heard about volksairways.....

Is there no thread on Aviation India 2012 or Im not able to locate it.

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Mon Mar 19, 2012 12:28 pm

Quoting HAWK21M (Reply 10):
DGCA does not seem to have heard about volksairways.....

Hmm. Interesting... They've been hiring... If the DGCA hasn't heard of them yet, they'll hear pretty soon

Quoting HAWK21M (Reply 10):
Is there no thread on Aviation India 2012 or Im not able to locate it.

No thread
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Mon Mar 19, 2012 9:59 pm

http://www.samachar.com/JetLite-disc...gets-Konnect-link-mdtsNrefijd.html

Have read the whole article, & I find Jet's strategy quite confusing.

Apparently JetLite & JetKonnect are merging to form a single low cost entity which will be called JetKonnect. But somewhere else the article quotes Chief Commercial Officer Raghavan "Jet Airways and JetLite will continue as distinct business entities operating under their own airline operating permits" !!

The article also mentions that some JetKonnect flights will have S2 code while others will have 9W codes.

& the article alos mentions "Though low-cost, JetKonnect, he said, will offer premiere services on certain routes, where guests may enjoy service, identical to that enjoyed by the full-service parent Jet".

I am not sure what Jet are trying to do. Why not keep it simple by having a full service bit (Jet - 9W) & a low cost bit (JetKonnect or whatever else they want to call it).
 
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Mon Mar 19, 2012 11:36 pm

Quoting AI (Reply 12):
Have read the whole article, & I find Jet's strategy quite confusing.
Quoting AI (Reply 12):
I am not sure what Jet are trying to do.

I have been already confused by their existing strategy. So they are maybe going from one thing I don't understand to another thing that I don't understand.
 
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RE: Indian Aviation Thread: Part 96

Thu Mar 22, 2012 9:37 am

Important week for Kingfisher....

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Quoting aeroblogger (Reply 11):
No thread

We need to start one then........
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Sun Mar 25, 2012 5:33 am

I hope you guys saw this - pics of an old IC A320 which has been scrapped (anyone know which registration and is IC scrapping many of the eight-wheelers?) that got stuck in Narela northwest Delhi
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Sun Mar 25, 2012 8:51 am

Quoting Cricket (Reply 16):
I hope you guys saw this - pics of an old IC A320 which has been scrapped

unique pics.

sad reality - For most onlookers thats the closest they will get to an aircraft.
 
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Sun Mar 25, 2012 10:03 pm

Quoting Cricket (Reply 16):
(anyone know which registration and is IC scrapping many of the eight-wheelers?) that got stuck in Narela northwest Delhi

I have no idea. But I have the information that there were six IC/AI A320s stored in India and it could be one of that six:

VT-EPE Stored at BOM
VT-EPK Stored at BPM
VT-EPL Stored at CCU
VT-EPP Stored at BOM
VT-EPR Stored at DEL
VT-EPT Stored at DEL

I think, it must be Romeo or Tango...
 
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Mon Mar 26, 2012 5:23 am

Just to share the outcome of meeting between EK and MoCA.

http://indiatoday.intoday.in/story/e...-indian-aviation-pie/1/179015.html

Cricket: Any additional light you can throw on the above, will be good.
 
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Mon Mar 26, 2012 9:01 am

The question is can INDIGO sustain their profits over the next few quarters......
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Mon Mar 26, 2012 5:52 pm

Quoting HAWK21M (Reply 20):
The question is can INDIGO sustain their profits over the next few quarters......

As long as they keep receiving a few planes every quarter, they'll continue in the black and given their order book, they'll be getting at least one plane every month for the next ten years...
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Mon Mar 26, 2012 6:52 pm

Quoting Cricket (Reply 21):

As long as they keep receiving a few planes every quarter, they'll continue in the black and given their order book, they'll be getting at least one plane every month for the next ten years...

So its the new aircraft thats saving them the losses......Is that what you are saying.

Are they returning any older ones back.
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Mon Mar 26, 2012 7:21 pm

Captain Gopinath had a cargo-parcel logistic service Deccan 360, he is also initiator of LCC Air Deccan later re-named as Simplify Deccan, later rebranded as Kingfisher Red. What is the status of Kingfisher Red at this moment and will it go bust as well or does it continue under a different brand when parent brand Kingfisher dissappears off the market?


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Tue Mar 27, 2012 10:27 am

Deccan 360 A310Fs are not flying anymore.

KF is rumoured to lay off 35000+ staff.Hopefully KF pay them their dues 1st.
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Tue Mar 27, 2012 10:29 am

Kingfisher Red is being phased out currently. In theory anyway.
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Wed Mar 28, 2012 1:55 am

Does these mean a brighter future for Indian Aviation?


More foreign destinations from India


Pvt carriers free to fly

Indian carriers to fly to 11 new international routes

... Some respite for the ailing Indian aviation market I suppose.   

Quoting HAWK21M (Reply 24):
KF is rumoured to lay off 35000+ staff.

Well as of now Kingfisher is rather on a Holding plan rather than layoff.

Kingfisher discloses 'holding plan', no layoffs announced
If it wasn't for AI and those money mongers sitting in the parliament, 9W would have been as big as SQ...:(
 
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Wed Mar 28, 2012 3:54 pm

Quoting JOYA380B747 (Reply 26):

Well as of now Kingfisher is rather on a Holding plan rather than layoff.

Different names  
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Wed Mar 28, 2012 6:29 pm

Quoting JOYA380B747 (Reply 26):

Question is, who actually has the means to fly routes such as DEL-MEL; DEL-SYD? The only one I could think of 9W. Do they have enough planes to start this? Any speculation on start of such service?
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Quoting buck3y3nut (Reply 28):

Question is, who actually has the means to fly routes such as DEL-MEL; DEL-SYD? The only one I could think of 9W. Do they have enough planes to start this? Any speculation on start of such service?
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No.

Nobody is likely to start any of these routes any time soon. The move had basically no impact whatsoever.
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Quoting buck3y3nut (Reply 28):
Question is, who actually has the means to fly routes such as DEL-MEL; DEL-SYD? The only one I could think of 9W. Do they have enough planes to start this? Any speculation on start of such service?

"Qu'ils mangent de la brioche" - let them eat cakes. This is what a French Queen - supposedly Marie Antoinette - said when she came across peasants who had no bread to eat (sometime before the French Revolution).

The Government of India's very generous route distribution is quite akin to the above. Most of the routes given can only be served by 9W - who is simply in no condition to expand into these markets in the immediate future.

Prediction - Indian Aviation is heading for a revolution. Weak carriers like IT and even AI (to my immense dismay) must die out if the market has to emerge stronger.

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Thu Mar 29, 2012 6:08 am

Quoting aeroblogger (Reply 29):
Nobody is likely to start any of these routes any time soon. The move had basically no impact whatsoever.

well, its as promised....

Quoting AirIndia (Reply 19):
Just to share the outcome of meeting between EK and MoCA.

Singh said that the issue of increasing flight frequency was discussed. In the next six months, Indian carriers will utilise their capacity. "Then, we will discuss it with airlines," Singh said. The minister had recently informed that about 500 to 600 new international routes would be opened up for private carriers mostly to countries like Uzbekistan, Egypt, Ethiopia and Vietnam besides parts of Europe and Australia.

Read more at: http://indiatoday.intoday.in/story/e...-indian-aviation-pie/1/179015.html
 
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Thu Mar 29, 2012 10:00 am

Quoting Vimanav (Reply 30):

Prediction - Indian Aviation is heading for a revolution. Weak carriers like IT and even AI (to my immense dismay) must die out if the market has to emerge stronger

Agree totally.
Get a few more Cargo operators in the market too.
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Thu Mar 29, 2012 3:33 pm

I vaguely remember a bunch of Air India connector flights to/from the international terminals of DEL/BOM to various cities in India (again, to/from the international terms) at odd times of the night. Can anybody tell me if these flights still exist? I looked up the AI website as well as makemytrip but they aren't showing these flights. I'm looking for flights from BLR-BOM departing on the night of 29/04 to make it to the LHR flight departing at 0630 from BOM. I remember the flight departing BLR at either 0030 or 0130. Thanks in advance!
 
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Thu Mar 29, 2012 3:42 pm

Quoting anshuk (Reply 33):
I vaguely remember a bunch of Air India connector flights to/from the international terminals of DEL/BOM to various cities in India (again, to/from the international terms) at odd times of the night. Can anybody tell me if these flights still exist? I looked up the AI website as well as makemytrip but they aren't showing these flights. I'm looking for flights from BLR-BOM departing on the night of 29/04 to make it to the LHR flight departing at 0630 from BOM. I remember the flight departing BLR at either 0030 or 0130. Thanks in advance!

Yes, these flights still exist. They are very convenient.. They often continue on to middle-eastern destinations...
Yeah, these flights still exist. I think that BLR doesn't have any more to BOM/DEL though...
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Thu Mar 29, 2012 4:50 pm

Yeah, they were extremely convenient flights. Somebody I know is looking at AI to fly to the UK, but the last flight from BLR to BOM departs at 2200. 9W it is, I suppose.
 
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Thu Mar 29, 2012 4:53 pm

Quoting anshuk (Reply 35):
Yeah, they were extremely convenient flights. Somebody I know is looking at AI to fly to the UK, but the last flight from BLR to BOM departs at 2200. 9W it is, I suppose.

Flying BLR-DEL-LHR on AI is actually very convenient...
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Thu Mar 29, 2012 5:40 pm

The DEL flight gets into LHR in the evening, a morning arrival is more convenient for us. No doubt, flying through DEL is way more convenient, but we're also looking at BA direct from BLR.
 
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Tue Apr 03, 2012 8:35 am

VJM has promised to pay his staff pending salaries this week.
But things still look tough for KF....
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RE: Indian Aviation Thread: Part 96

Tue Apr 03, 2012 9:48 am

Quoting aeroblogger (Reply 34):

Yes, these flights still exist. They are very convenient.. They often continue on to middle-eastern destinations...
Yeah, these flights still exist. I think that BLR doesn't have any more to BOM/DEL though...

Me and my friend took one of these connector flights last year...it was BOM-BLR. We missed our Go Air flight back to BLR so this was our only option left. Wasnt a bad flight actually...we got a sandwich and a muffin as snacks  
 
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Tue Apr 03, 2012 9:53 am

Quoting caliatenza (Reply 39):
Me and my friend took one of these connector flights last year...it was BOM-BLR. We missed our Go Air flight back to BLR so this was our only option left. Wasnt a bad flight actually...we got a sandwich and a muffin as snacks

Why would you expect a bad flight??? AI has by far the best product for domestic India flights with comfortable seats, good food (I trust the sandwich and muffin were tasty), and reasonably (although probably money-losing) fares....

From a passenger perspective on domestic flights, it really doesn't get better.

I won't comment on Air India's finances - those are obviously a completely different story.
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Tue Apr 03, 2012 12:12 pm

Quoting caliatenza (Reply 39):
Me and my friend took one of these connector flights last year...it was BOM-BLR. We missed our Go Air flight back to BLR so this was our only option left. Wasnt a bad flight actually...we got a sandwich and a muffin as snacks  

What time was the flight? If I recall correctly, when I took the flight back in 2008, I only got a sandwich as well! And a bunch of noisy kids kicking my seat from the back, of course  
 
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Tue Apr 03, 2012 1:32 pm

$3.6 billion Air India restructuring plan approved.
http://www1.economictimes.indiatimes...-approved/articleshow/12519826.cms

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The long-awaited Rs 18,000 crore financial restructuring plan for cash-strapped Air India has finally been approved by a consortium of 19 banks led by State Bank of India, an official said here on Tuesday.

As part of the airline's restructuring plans, the government had announced an infusion of Rs.4,000 crore($800 million) during the current fiscal, raising the airlines' equity base to Rs 7,345 crore, in the union budget for 2012-13.
 
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Quoting LAXDESI (Reply 42):
$3.6 billion Air India restructuring plan approved.
http://www1.economictimes.indiatimes...-approved/articleshow/12519826.cms

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The long-awaited Rs 18,000 crore financial restructuring plan for cash-strapped Air India has finally been approved by a consortium of 19 banks led by State Bank of India, an official said here on Tuesday.

As part of the airline's restructuring plans, the government had announced an infusion of Rs.4,000 crore($800 million) during the current fiscal, raising the airlines' equity base to Rs 7,345 crore, in the union budget for 2012-13.

Good, now they have the capital to run the airline. I hope that the management will actually make a decent effort at turning the airline around financially. Not optimistic though  
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Wed Apr 04, 2012 12:10 am

Does anyone have any recent information or photos from CCU regarding the new terminal?
 
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Wed Apr 04, 2012 6:30 am

Indian aviation grows 12.3% in February as per reports

http://airliners1.com/?p=1719

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Despite severe financial pressures and collapses of airlines, the Indian aviation industry carried 12.3% more passengers than the previous year. This however is much lower than the 16% capacity addition by airlines as compared to the previous year.
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Wed Apr 04, 2012 10:44 am

Any news on VJMs meet with the staff this week....any Outcomes?.
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RE: Indian Aviation Thread: Part 96

Wed Apr 04, 2012 4:22 pm

Does anyone know all the booking classes on AI or where I can possibly find them?
 
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RE: Indian Aviation Thread: Part 96

Wed Apr 04, 2012 4:30 pm

Quoting anshuk (Reply 47):
Does anyone know all the booking classes on AI or where I can possibly find them?

https://www.flyingreturns.co.in/html/er_airindia_flights.php
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RE: Indian Aviation Thread: Part 96

Wed Apr 04, 2012 8:22 pm

Quoting HAWK21M (Reply 46):
Any news on VJMs meet with the staff this week....any Outcomes?.

As per ET, junior staff will be getting paid a portion of their pending salaries.
http://www1.economictimes.indiatimes...-salaries/articleshow/12536752.cms