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Air Canada Announces 7 Canadian Cities For 787s

Mon Mar 05, 2012 1:10 pm

I didnt find it anywhere on here, but..


Air Canada annouces 7 cities the 787 will fly out;

Toronto
Montreal
Vancouver
Calgary
Edmonton
Ottawa
&
Halifax

Looking forward to having this aircraft here in Halifax...


http://www.ctv.ca/generic/generated/...tatic/business/article2358591.html

(you might have to copy and paste the link as I am at work and sercuirty settings are way too high)
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Air Canada Announces 7 Canadian Cities For 787s

Mon Mar 05, 2012 1:14 pm

Looking forward to seeing the 787 fly out of YYC, even though its still 3 years away.
 
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Air Canada Announces 7 Canadian Cities For 787s

Mon Mar 05, 2012 1:15 pm

You know at first I thought you meant International cities and not within canada, either way, good that they are planning to fly them out of these cities listed

[Edited 2012-03-05 05:17:01]
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Air Canada Announces 7 Canadian Cities For 787s

Mon Mar 05, 2012 1:26 pm

Is there any other city left that they currently do fly international services out of?
 
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Air Canada Announces 7 Canadian Cities For 787s

Mon Mar 05, 2012 1:42 pm

Vancouver-Cancun!!   
 
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RE: Air Canada Announces 7 Canadian Cities For 787s

Mon Mar 05, 2012 1:47 pm

Quoting AirCanadaA330 (Thread starter):
Air Canada annouces 7 cities the 787 will fly out;

Toronto
Montreal
Vancouver
Calgary
Edmonton
Ottawa
&
Halifax

Looking forward to having this aircraft here in Halifax...

The way in which you have written this sounds like a joke because everyone knows that AC will be using the B787s to operate from these cities internationally and few domestic. What is required to be found out is on what specific trans-atlantic and trans-pacific sectors will they actually be put on operationally!
 
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RE: Air Canada Announces 7 Canadian Cities For 787s

Mon Mar 05, 2012 1:51 pm

Quoting leftyboarder (Reply 3):
Is there any other city left that they currently do fly international services out of?

YYT also has nonstop service to LHR, at least seasonal.
 
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RE: Air Canada Announces 7 Canadian Cities For 787s

Mon Mar 05, 2012 1:57 pm

Quoting leftyboarder (Reply 3):
Is there any other city left that they currently do fly international services out of?

Do you mean don't not do ? Because that would imply YWG. Used to, to LHR/PIK/CPH/FRA. But now everything is hubbed through YYZ. Only TATL services out of YWG are Icelandic Express seasonally to KEF and any Canadian charter ops, again seasonally, mostly to STN.

If YWG was a little larger, I could see 787 service to LHR, but that's about it.
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RE: Air Canada Announces 7 Canadian Cities For 787s

Mon Mar 05, 2012 2:27 pm

Quoting frat (Reply 6):
YYT also has nonstop service to LHR, at least seasonal.

Onl on the A319, the B787 is the B763 replacement.
 
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RE: Air Canada Announces 7 Canadian Cities For 787s

Mon Mar 05, 2012 4:12 pm

Great news. Canada is well suited for 787 routes.
 
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RE: Air Canada Announces 7 Canadian Cities For 787s

Mon Mar 05, 2012 4:35 pm

Well I have to say... I'm not surprised at all. These are all cities which see 767 service currently I believe, so naturally they will be getting the 787 as well. The only one that might be surprising to some would be Halifax, however we do have service YHZ-LHR which is currently operated by the 767 and when they are all gone it will have to be operated by something else. I suppose however that it was a good time to make such an announcement with the media coverage following the 787's visit to YYZ the past few days. It was good that CEO Calin Rovinescu did confirm that they are at least looking into new routes which could be operated by the aircraft. Hopefully that will put an end to all of those who insist that it won't be used to open up new routes by Air Canada, just cover current ones.
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RE: Air Canada Announces 7 Canadian Cities For 787s

Mon Mar 05, 2012 4:55 pm

Could we possibly see the 787 on the daily YYC-NRT in the future?
 
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RE: Air Canada Announces 7 Canadian Cities For 787s

Mon Mar 05, 2012 4:59 pm

Quoting AirCanada787 (Reply 10):
It was good that CEO Calin Rovinescu did confirm that they are at least looking into new routes which could be operated by the aircraft. Hopefully that will put an end to all of those who insist that it won't be used to open up new routes by Air Canada, just cover current ones.

Hell yeah, we might even see the return of AC at GLA and MAN.
 
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RE: Air Canada Announces 7 Canadian Cities For 787s

Mon Mar 05, 2012 5:02 pm

Any idea as to when will air Canada start retiring the 767s?
 
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RE: Air Canada Announces 7 Canadian Cities For 787s

Mon Mar 05, 2012 5:05 pm

I'm more interested by where these aircraft are flying to outside Canada. It's already a given that these 7 cities will see 787 service to LHR. But where else is the question.
 
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RE: Air Canada Announces 7 Canadian Cities For 787s

Mon Mar 05, 2012 5:18 pm

Quoting KAL7478 (Reply 13):
Any idea as to when will air Canada start retiring the 767s?

I thought the plan was to try and spin quite a few of the 763's off to the vacation carrier they are trying to get up and running?
 
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RE: Air Canada Announces 7 Canadian Cities For 787s

Mon Mar 05, 2012 5:18 pm

It looks like the list of where AC flies the 767 from. I hope to see them at YXU doing touch and goes to get the pilots up to speed in the new aircraft. I have seen alot of aircrsft over the years doing such a thing.
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RE: Air Canada Announces 7 Canadian Cities For 787s

Mon Mar 05, 2012 5:35 pm

Pretty much covers all Canadian cities with international flights ... no offense to AC, but I can't really pinpoint why this is news or how are these 7 cities being played by the media as something significant. It's like saying the new BMW 3 series will be up for sale in ALL 50 states!

just playing up the loyal AC base following the 787 visit to YYZ ?   
 
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RE: Air Canada Announces 7 Canadian Cities For 787s

Mon Mar 05, 2012 5:36 pm

Quoting brilondon (Reply 16):
I hope to see them at YXU doing touch and goes to get the pilots up to speed in the new aircraft. I have seen alot of aircrsft over the years doing such a thing.

With the advent of newer more capable simulators, the requirement to do actual aircraft training no longer exists. In fact, except for some instances, that requirement has not been needed for about 10 years.

99% of the time, the first time a pilot sees an "actual airplane", there are passengers in the back!
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RE: Air Canada Announces 7 Canadian Cities For 787s

Mon Mar 05, 2012 6:26 pm

Quoting AirCanadaA330 (Thread starter):
Air Canada annouces 7 cities the 787 will fly out;

This is all assuming AC is still here in 2014 to begin with !

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RE: Air Canada Announces 7 Canadian Cities For 787s

Mon Mar 05, 2012 7:04 pm

Quoting thenoflyzone (Reply 19):
This is all assuming AC is still here in 2014 to begin with !

Yup, could all be Air Canada Express, or Maplestar ... with foreign pilots, and prepubescent flight attendants all making minimum wage ... with all the exAC pilots making twice what they are making right now in Asia, and all the managers in YUL HQ, now unemployed, scratching their heads wondering what happened.

In other words, Air Canada will last longer than cockroaches!
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RE: Air Canada Announces 7 Canadian Cities For 787s

Mon Mar 05, 2012 7:24 pm

As an Ottawa local, I'm more than pleased to see the 787 will fly out from my home city. Will definitely be taking a ride on it when it's entered into service.

Thanks for the information.
 
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RE: Air Canada Announces 7 Canadian Cities For 787s

Mon Mar 05, 2012 7:33 pm

Quoting longhauler (Reply 18):

With the advent of newer more capable simulators, the requirement to do actual aircraft training no longer exists. In fact, except for some instances, that requirement has not been needed for about 10 years.

99% of the time, the first time a pilot sees an "actual airplane", there are passengers in the back!

AC were doing touch and goes with their new 777-300's so they can't all be gone, besides please don't take this away from us in London we have so very little as it is now.
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RE: Air Canada Announces 7 Canadian Cities For 787s

Mon Mar 05, 2012 8:08 pm

Quoting longhauler (Reply 18):
99% of the time, the first time a pilot sees an "actual airplane", there are passengers in the back!

Let's say a new type like the 787 becomes operational. Does a pilot not even go for a short familiarization flight on the actual aircraft before transferring to the type with real pax?
 
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RE: Air Canada Announces 7 Canadian Cities For 787s

Mon Mar 05, 2012 8:12 pm

Quoting brilondon (Reply 16):
It looks like the list of where AC flies the 767 from.
Quoting ASA (Reply 17):
Pretty much covers all Canadian cities with international flights ... no offense to AC, but I can't really pinpoint why this is news

To be fair to AC, it wasn't an announcement. It just came out of an interview on board the 788 at YYZ. Obviously a reporter asked which cities would see 788 service, and the AC interviewee rhymed off the existing 767 cities.   
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RE: Air Canada Announces 7 Canadian Cities For 787s

Mon Mar 05, 2012 11:13 pm

From the Financial Post:

"Ben Smith, Air Canada chief commercial officer, who was also aboard the flight to Boston Sunday, said the carrier has yet to decide what its configuration will be the Dreamliner. But he said most of the market research shows that North American carrier will use a 3-3-3 seat configuration in the economy seats."

ANA's 787 has a 2-4-2 configuration. If the 3-3-3 configuration is chosen, YTZ (the poster, not the airport) can claim some success for his predictive powers.

Personally, seeing my favorite 2-3-2 767 being replaced by a 3-3-3 787 will probably push me onto TS metal - assuming, of course, that no mileage Tango fares will be introduced to Europe, as they have been for Lat Am and Asia.
 
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RE: Air Canada Announces 7 Canadian Cities For 787s

Mon Mar 05, 2012 11:18 pm

Quoting ElPistolero (Reply 25):
assuming, of course, that no mileage Tango fares will be introduced to Europe, as they have been for Lat Am and Asia.

Different Y markets.
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RE: Air Canada Announces 7 Canadian Cities For 787s

Mon Mar 05, 2012 11:42 pm

Quoting Kaiarahi (Reply 26):

Is that an informed guess, or a fact obtained from someone on the inside?

Either way, I hope you're right. I don't fly to HKG often, but looking into it right now, and it looks like I'll be giving AC a miss. The differential between T and T+ is quite large - $710 r/t pre-tax and surcharges.

[Edited 2012-03-05 15:49:57]

[Edited 2012-03-05 15:50:33]
 
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RE: Air Canada Announces 7 Canadian Cities For 787s

Mon Mar 05, 2012 11:58 pm

Quoting thenoflyzone (Reply 19):
This is all assuming AC is still here in 2014 to begin with !

It will be there, even if the fed's have to make it a crown corporation again (as it was prior to '88).


It clearly is 767 replacement equipment. Who gets it first? YUL or YYZ?
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RE: Air Canada Announces 7 Canadian Cities For 787s

Tue Mar 06, 2012 12:11 am

Quoting SLCUT2777 (Reply 29):
It clearly is 767 replacement equipment. Who gets it first? YUL or YYZ?

It will likely fly direct to YUL from the factory on the delivery flight as the 777's did. Then you will see a YYZ visit for tours etc. The very first revenue flights could be Rapidair flights so both cities will see it within an hour of each other. This is pretty standard for familiarization purposes, After a few of those I see some YYZ to YVR flights. Then they will gradually expand to other cities.
 
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RE: Air Canada Announces 7 Canadian Cities For 787s

Tue Mar 06, 2012 1:59 am

Quoting thenoflyzone (Reply 19):
This is all assuming AC is still here in 2014 to begin with !

Is this fact? I did not even know that AC was even in reorganization.
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RE: Air Canada Announces 7 Canadian Cities For 787s

Tue Mar 06, 2012 1:59 am

Quoting aGreatWayToFly (Reply 23):
Let's say a new type like the 787 becomes operational. Does a pilot not even go for a short familiarization flight on the actual aircraft before transferring to the type with real pax?

Normally no ... surprise!

Quoting brilondon (Reply 22):
AC were doing touch and goes with their new 777-300's so they can't all be gone, besides please don't take this away from us in London we have so very little as it is now.

I think it depends on how new the type is to the simulator manufacturer, as it is Transport Canada that applies there certification to the simulator, then the airline uses that certification. Today, all new B777 pilots do not do touch and goes.

Besides, I have diverted to YXU twice in the last two years due to weather ... you didn't appreciate that?  
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RE: Air Canada Announces 7 Canadian Cities For 787s

Tue Mar 06, 2012 2:15 am

Air Canada : How about a flight to Singapore from Vancouver? I know I am dreaming but if there is one airplane with the range and the right size, it has to be the B787-Dreamliner.

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RE: Air Canada Announces 7 Canadian Cities For 787s

Tue Mar 06, 2012 5:13 am

They are also adding new destinations to India and China:

http://www.theglobeandmail.com/globe...en-canadian-cities/article2358591/
 
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RE: Air Canada Announces 7 Canadian Cities For 787s

Tue Mar 06, 2012 6:56 am

Quoting Hawaiian763 (Reply 11):
Could we possibly see the 787 on the daily YYC-NRT in the future?

YYC-NRT isn't daily. It's 5 x week in the summer, and starting next winter, 3 x week during the winter. Since it started 2 years ago it has been a seasonal route, summer only.
 
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RE: Air Canada Announces 7 Canadian Cities For 787s

Tue Mar 06, 2012 8:53 am

I can see AC introducing the 787 the way they introduced the 777 by using it on the YYZ - YUL route for flight crew familiarization and slowly expand service to YVR, and if memory serves me correctly wasn't the first international route for the 777 to LHR? I can see AC doing the same thing here. Would AC also bring in ground crews from the other five cities that the 787 will fly to into YVR, YYZ, or YUL for ground crew familiarization as well?
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RE: Air Canada Announces 7 Canadian Cities For 787s

Tue Mar 06, 2012 10:12 am

Quoting skipness1E (Reply 8):
Quoting frat (Reply 6):
YYT also has nonstop service to LHR, at least seasonal.

Onl on the A319, the B787 is the B763 replacement.

I know but that was noit the question.  
 
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RE: Air Canada Announces 7 Canadian Cities For 787s

Tue Mar 06, 2012 7:34 pm

Quoting longhauler (Reply 32):
Besides, I have diverted to YXU twice in the last two years due to weather ... you didn't appreciate that?  

I don't live in London anymore but my parents are still in London and I do visit them about one or two times a month although not much during the winter. I moved to my current location to get away from the crappy weather. I still am always looking at what the aviation scene is doing in my old home town. Were you the one bringing that 767 diversion in?
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RE: Air Canada Announces 7 Canadian Cities For 787s

Wed Mar 07, 2012 12:47 am

Quoting Fiedman (Reply 35):
can see AC introducing the 787 the way they introduced the 777 by using it on the YYZ - YUL route for flight crew familiarization and slowly expand service to YVR,

Expect to see the first planes operating YUL-YVR-YYZ-YUL routes where they can get the quick hops in, but also stretch it's legs a bit. It also depends on the delivery schedule. If they get three in a month, they might branch out a bit, but it depends on what Boeing is able to supply. First couple months will be dedicated to getting all the crews trained, and if that means bringing them in to either YVR,YYZ,YUL, then they will.

I enjoyed the part of the article where they mentioned YYZ atc asking for a flyby   Too bad they couldn't oblige!

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