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A320 From US Air 1549 To Be Exhibited

Mon Mar 05, 2012 2:26 pm

I was reading a little while ago that a museum in the USA was planning on re-assembling and exhibiting this in early 2012 but the most recent information I can find states that the museum only received the wings a month or so ago. So I was wondering if anyone knew when they plan to complete the exhibit, and if your able to see it uncompleted?

Not to distract from the incredible performance of the crew, but I was surprised and a little disappointed that Airbus and the A320 didn’t receive the credit they deserved for the role they played in this accident. Although thankfully now rare, there are still a few arrogant individuals that continue to believe an Airbus isn’t as rugged as an older, more traditionally designed jet, or that the Airbus FBW system would inhibit control in emergency situations.

So I’m hoping that it will exhibited in such a way to show just how critical the FBW system was in this accident and the last of the doubters will finally be silenced.

I suppose I better say this again too; I’m not in any way trying to detract from the crew performance as it was simply incredible. Nor am I saying that other aircraft wouldn’t have performed well. It’s just after all the negative press Airbus received over AA587 then in my view they deserved much more recognition than they got for this.
 
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RE: A320 From US Air 1549 To Be Exhibited

Mon Mar 05, 2012 2:54 pm

Quoting Daysleeper (Thread starter):
So I’m hoping that it will exhibited in such a way to show just how critical the FBW system was in this accident and the last of the doubters will finally be silenced.

In what way did the FBW system contribute to the success of this incident, as you seem to be suggesting?
Plenty non FBW aircraft have been ditch in the past with all or most on board surviving. Why is this A320 any different?

Airbus and AA got the attention they deserved fo AA587
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Mon Mar 05, 2012 4:16 pm

The plane is at the Carolinas Aviation Museum right next to CLT. Flew to Charlotte recently just to see it and really is amazing. The wings were not on but had a long talk with a museum exec about future plans for it, which include what you say.

Happy to post some of the many pics I took if requested.
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RE: A320 From US Air 1549 To Be Exhibited

Mon Mar 05, 2012 4:24 pm

Speaking as a captain for the very airline in question, with many thousands of hours in Airbus, Boeing, McDonnell-Douglas and Fokkers...the results would likely been the same if Sully had been flying a non-FBW aircraft. FBW did not hinder nor did it contribute to the successful outcome.

[Edited 2012-03-05 08:30:14]

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RE: A320 From US Air 1549 To Be Exhibited

Mon Mar 05, 2012 4:33 pm

Quoting maxpower1954 (Reply 3):
.the results would have been the same if Sully had been flying a non-FBW aircraft.

How do you know? Is this just a guess? Do not get me wrong he did a great job but we cannot know for sure if the outcome would have been the same.

Quoting garpd (Reply 1):
In what way did the FBW system contribute to the success of this incident, as you seem to be suggesting?

The FBW system assisted with the controlled descent of the A320 at certain points the aircraft came close to stall speed but the system increased to rate of descent to avoid stalling.
 
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RE: A320 From US Air 1549 To Be Exhibited

Mon Mar 05, 2012 5:09 pm

Hmmmm... You started off asking an interesting question. But this?

Quoting Daysleeper (Thread starter):

Not to distract from the incredible performance of the crew, but I was surprised and a little disappointed that Airbus and the A320 didn’t receive the credit they deserved for the role they played in this accident. Although thankfully now rare, there are still a few arrogant individuals that continue to believe an Airbus isn’t as rugged as an older, more traditionally designed jet, or that the Airbus FBW system would inhibit control in emergency situations.

Take this in the spirit of someone pointing out what appears to be confounding logic. This reads more than a little bit like fan-boyism. I know there's really no way nice way to say that, but I'm really not seeing the point of your question here. Who has said that FBW inhibited control (and under what law setting for that matter?) Who has said Airbus or the A320 aren't "rugged" enough for commercial use? I don't know of anyone (in the industry anyway) who really believes the 320 isn't up to code in all the required ways. Sorry, but I'm really not seeing the thrust of you question/argument. Frankly it has the appearances of a strawman argument.

To answer the broader question though, any aircraft up to legal standards would likely have caused the same result. The 320 performed great, and everyone knows it.
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RE: A320 From US Air 1549 To Be Exhibited

Mon Mar 05, 2012 6:22 pm

This aircraft should be flying, but salvage operators got overzealous.
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RE: A320 From US Air 1549 To Be Exhibited

Mon Mar 05, 2012 6:49 pm

Quoting rscaife1682 (Reply 4):
The FBW system assisted with the controlled descent of the A320 at certain points the aircraft came close to stall speed but the system increased to rate of descent to avoid stalling.

Exactly

Quoting darksnowynight (Reply 5):
Take this in the spirit of someone pointing out what appears to be confounding logic. This reads more than a little bit like fan-boyism. I know there's really no way nice way to say that, but I'm really not seeing the point of your question here. .

Because it is related to why I want to know the status of the exhibit. I’ve read that they are going to focus on the aircrafts performance just as much as the crew’s so I was curious to what aspects of that this they consider a contributing factor.

Quoting maxpower1954 (Reply 3):
the results would likely been the same if Sully had been flying a non-FBW aircraft. FBW did not hinder nor did it contribute to the successful outcome.


I’m sure as a pilot you would like to think this is the case, and it perhaps is. There just isn’t enough information on how aircraft perform in this situation as thankfully it’s incredibly rare. All we do know is that in this situation the FBW system did exactly what it was supposed to do, and assisted the crew by allowing them to approach the river at the lowest possible speed without stalling.

Quoting plateman (Reply 2):
Happy to post some of the many pics I took if requested.



I’m certainly curious as to how it’s presented, as I stated above they have said that they will focus on the aircrafts role and how advancements in technology over the last 100 years have made such an accident survivable.
 
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RE: A320 From US Air 1549 To Be Exhibited

Mon Mar 05, 2012 6:55 pm

Will the wings be reattached?
 
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Mon Mar 05, 2012 6:57 pm

I'd love to see some of the pics you took.
 
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RE: A320 From US Air 1549 To Be Exhibited

Mon Mar 05, 2012 7:10 pm

As requested ... here are a collection of my photos. It was really neat to see up close. While the museum is pretty tiny, this was a highlight ... its about 5 minutes from the airport, so doable on a stopover, but you need a car or taxi. -Brian

One thing to keep in mind is most of the damage to the hull came from rescue vessels. I had a long talk with the head of volunteers who was really into sharing his information about the plane. He said he doubts that anyone other than staff will ever be allowed inside. Happy to answer other questions.

Bag tag from the flight:
http://i228.photobucket.com/albums/ee141/bmkbowler/317094_828966756885_7406307_39388047_1355365197_n.jpg

Rescue rescue caused this on the front
http://i228.photobucket.com/albums/ee141/bmkbowler/312651_828966432535_7406307_39388034_415499248_n.jpg

Side, with impact from hitting the Hudson clear
http://i228.photobucket.com/albums/ee141/bmkbowler/312617_828966457485_7406307_39388035_912151424_n.jpg

More damage from boats
http://i228.photobucket.com/albums/ee141/bmkbowler/310599_828966507385_7406307_39388037_1363417368_n.jpg

Cracked window
http://i228.photobucket.com/albums/ee141/bmkbowler/309789_828967141115_7406307_39388061_1207964547_n.jpg

How the plane made it from NY to NC ... slow and steady
http://i228.photobucket.com/albums/ee141/bmkbowler/308121_828966587225_7406307_39388040_215129474_n.jpg

Circles are where the birds impacted
http://i228.photobucket.com/albums/ee141/bmkbowler/307804_828966866665_7406307_39388050_1296586832_n.jpg

Windshield cracked from rescue boats
http://i228.photobucket.com/albums/ee141/bmkbowler/307711_828967126145_7406307_39388060_1863102432_n.jpg

From inside the crippled plane
http://i228.photobucket.com/albums/ee141/bmkbowler/302582_828966731935_7406307_39388046_1135163629_n.jpg

Safety cards from US1549
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Damage from river impact
http://i228.photobucket.com/albums/ee141/bmkbowler/298784_828966607185_7406307_39388041_1124957454_n.jpg

Tail
http://i228.photobucket.com/albums/ee141/bmkbowler/298703_828966642115_7406307_39388042_768482477_n.jpg

http://i228.photobucket.com/albums/ee141/bmkbowler/297166_828966821755_7406307_39388049_105881662_n.jpg

Back
http://i228.photobucket.com/albums/ee141/bmkbowler/296609_828966652095_7406307_39388043_1091210095_n.jpg

Hole
http://i228.photobucket.com/albums/ee141/bmkbowler/294481_828966971455_7406307_39388055_1353174954_n.jpg

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RE: A320 From US Air 1549 To Be Exhibited

Mon Mar 05, 2012 7:24 pm

Quoting Daysleeper (Thread starter):
a little disappointed that Airbus and the A320 didn’t receive the credit they deserved for the role they played in this accident.

There was a very good article in Vanity Fair about it two years ago: http://tinyurl.com/dgxfy2 (the URL redirects to VF, for some reason trying to post the link directly causes some sort of malfunction in the forum software)
 
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RE: A320 From US Air 1549 To Be Exhibited

Mon Mar 05, 2012 7:28 pm

Quoting N328KF (Reply 6):
This aircraft should be flying, but salvage operators got overzealous.

Eh?

The aeroplane collided with a large flock of geese which caused a lot of impact damage to the fuselage and wings, some of them were ingested into the engine cores turning them to two big lumps of scrap metal.

It then landed on the Hudson causing damage to the rear fuselage and tearing one engine clean off. Then the rescue boats came and did even more damage (as seen in plateman's awesome pics above) before it sank with only one wingtip and the V-stab showing.

I'd say that N106US had pretty much had it before the salvage contractor removed the wings which they had to do in order to move it from the quayside.

If anyone in the know can look at that aeroplane and tell us all that all of the damage was repairable and financially viable than please correct me but it looks it was never going to be airworthy again.
 
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RE: A320 From US Air 1549 To Be Exhibited

Mon Mar 05, 2012 7:47 pm

Quoting rscaife1682 (Reply 4):
The FBW system assisted with the controlled descent of the A320 at certain points the aircraft came close to stall speed but the system increased to rate of descent to avoid stalling.

So a pilot of a 737 say would not be able to dip the nose a tad himself?

Are you perchance lending too much credit to FBW instead of pilot skill?
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RE: A320 From US Air 1549 To Be Exhibited

Mon Mar 05, 2012 8:38 pm

The accident linked below was a mirror image of US 1549. It happened in 1963 to a TU-124, in day VFR conditions - a 100% successful ditching of a powerless jetliner in a flat calm river. All without FBW computers.

The only thing I'm trying to refute here is the insinuation that such a maneuver is virtually impossible without FBW. In the final evaluation, the skill - and luck - of the pilot is what determines the outcome.

http://rt.com/news/pilot-saves-lives-by-landing-on-a-river-in-1963/
 
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Mon Mar 05, 2012 9:10 pm

Quoting GBLKD (Reply 12):
The aeroplane collided with a large flock of geese which caused a lot of impact damage to the fuselage and wings, some of them were ingested into the engine cores turning them to two big lumps of scrap metal.

It then landed on the Hudson causing damage to the rear fuselage and tearing one engine clean off. Then the rescue boats came and did even more damage (as seen in plateman's awesome pics above) before it sank with only one wingtip and the V-stab showing.

I'd say that N106US had pretty much had it before the salvage contractor removed the wings which they had to do in order to move it from the quayside.

If anyone in the know can look at that aeroplane and tell us all that all of the damage was repairable and financially viable than please correct me but it looks it was never going to be airworthy again.

I believe you are 100% correct and I cannot imagine a scenario in which this plane was ever going to fly again once it came into contact with the Hudson River. After the rescue, it was a matter of securing the aircraft and eventually salvaging it, probably for scrap but I like the museum idea a whole lot better! Wish I could walk down the aisle inside her but I know that will never be allowed to the general public.
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RE: A320 From US Air 1549 To Be Exhibited

Mon Mar 05, 2012 9:22 pm

Quoting GBLKD (Reply 12):
If anyone in the know can look at that aeroplane and tell us all that all of the damage was repairable and financially viable than please correct me but it looks it was never going to be airworthy again.

Yes: they should have fitted 2 new engines, replaced the windshield and pass window, re-stocked the damaged Sprite and Coke cans, attached floats to the gear and flown it out on the runway it landed on!  

Sorry, couldn't help it, there was never a chance that would fly again. I was curious to learn the full extent of how much damage it had received (although I always imagined it would be a write-off) but those great pics show just how severe it was.

[Edited 2012-03-05 13:24:37]
 
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RE: A320 From US Air 1549 To Be Exhibited

Mon Mar 05, 2012 9:37 pm

Quoting richierich (Reply 15):
I believe you are 100% correct and I cannot imagine a scenario in which this plane was ever going to fly again once it came into contact with the Hudson River

Thanks, it looked like a total loss the second it "spalshed down"

Quoting Chimborazo (Reply 16):
Yes: they should have fitted 2 new engines, replaced the windshield and pass window, re-stocked the damaged Sprite and Coke cans, attached floats to the gear and flown it out on the runway it landed on!

I've worked at places where buses in equivalent condition have been bodged to the extreme and been back on the road so I guess anything's possible.

I'm glad you mentioned re stocking the catering, would make having to wear wellies on the ferry flight all worth it.
 
 
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RE: A320 From US Air 1549 To Be Exhibited

Mon Mar 05, 2012 9:53 pm

Quoting garpd (Reply 13):
So a pilot of a 737 say would not be able to dip the nose a tad himself?

Are you perchance lending too much credit to FBW instead of pilot skill?

Not at all just answering the question below.

Quoting garpd (Reply 1):
In what way did the FBW system contribute to the success of this incident, as you seem to be suggesting?

I am not saying this would not have been possible in a 737 or any other aircraft for that matter. I am just stating that the pilot was assisted in the final descent of the aircraft. I do not know if the a/c would have stalled or impacted the water. The pilot did an outstanding job in piloting the aircraft but the FBW assisted him all the way to the Hudson making several corrections to the rate of descent. Just making sure the A320 gets the credit it deserves....and this coming from a Boeing man  

On a side note great PICS

[Edited 2012-03-05 13:56:02]

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RE: A320 From US Air 1549 To Be Exhibited

Mon Mar 05, 2012 10:01 pm

Quoting Daysleeper (Thread starter):
So I’m hoping that it will exhibited in such a way to show just how critical the FBW system was in this accident and the last of the doubters will finally be silenced.

Oh, can of worms opened.

Quoting rscaife1682 (Reply 4):
The FBW system assisted with the controlled descent of the A320 at certain points the aircraft came close to stall speed but the system increased to rate of descent to avoid stalling.

There is one thing the FBW cannot do... that is, manage the energy so that you don't come in too fast and having to bleed off excess speed just as you were skimming over the river... or so that you don't screw up and when you're about to soften your descent rate just over the water, the stall protection kicks in and puts the nose down and then errr.... a bigger mess in the Hudson!

By the way, was the aircraft ever on EMER ELEC (RAT deployed)? Or did the APU take care of the electrics in the glide? If EMER ELEC and No APU, then the FBW went into degraded mode anyways... which means there was no stall protection.

FBW is wonderful, but pilot skills are still important... Put an idiot in front and the FBW can turn the plane into a disaster... the same goes for non-FBW aircraft.

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RE: A320 From US Air 1549 To Be Exhibited

Mon Mar 05, 2012 10:13 pm

Quoting mandala499 (Reply 19):
By the way, was the aircraft ever on EMER ELEC (RAT deployed)? Or did the APU take care of the electrics in the glide? If EMER ELEC and No APU, then the FBW went into degraded mode anyways... which means there was no stall protection.

APU, Cpt Sullenberger started it pretty much as soon as the engines died.
 
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RE: A320 From US Air 1549 To Be Exhibited

Mon Mar 05, 2012 10:33 pm

Quoting Daysleeper (Thread starter):
Not to distract from the incredible performance of the crew, but I was surprised and a little disappointed that Airbus and the A320 didn’t receive the credit they deserved for the role they played in this accident.

Exactly what credit do you feel Airbus and the A320 deserve but were not given?
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RE: A320 From US Air 1549 To Be Exhibited

Mon Mar 05, 2012 10:37 pm

Quoting ContnlEliteCMH (Reply 21):
Exactly what credit do you feel Airbus and the A320 deserve but were not given?

Exactly what I'm wondering, I thought that two decade old debate about the 320 and FBW was dead.   
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RE: A320 From US Air 1549 To Be Exhibited

Tue Mar 06, 2012 1:25 am

Quoting maxpower1954 (Reply 3):
How do you know? Is this just a guess? Do not get me wrong he did a great job but we cannot know for sure if the outcome would have been the same.

There's your answer...

Quoting maxpower1954 (Reply 3):
Speaking as a captain for the very airline in question, with many thousands of hours in Airbus, Boeing, McDonnell-Douglas and Fokkers...the results would likely been the same if Sully had been flying a non-FBW aircraft. FBW did not hinder nor did it contribute to the successful outcome.

The man has thousands of hours in the airplane involved.. if that's not enough then you may never find your answer..

Great pictures, truly a wonderful museum that I would love to visit one day, from what I understand you can board the airplane right? Or was that for the crew of that A/C only?
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RE: A320 From US Air 1549 To Be Exhibited

Tue Mar 06, 2012 2:01 am

Quoting Daysleeper (Thread starter):
Not to distract from the incredible performance of the crew, but
Quoting Daysleeper (Thread starter):
So I’m hoping that it will exhibited in such a way to show just how critical the FBW system was in this accident and the last of the doubters will finally be silenced.
Quoting Daysleeper (Thread starter):
I suppose I better say this again too; I’m not in any way trying to detract from the crew performance as
Quoting Daysleeper (Thread starter):
Nor am I saying
Quoting Daysleeper (Thread starter):
It’s just after all the negative press

 

It's quite obvious what your intent is here, and it has nothing to do with the aircraft being exhibited anywhere!

Please!


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RE: A320 From US Air 1549 To Be Exhibited

Tue Mar 06, 2012 2:54 am

Interesting showcase. Though I have to say the stickers are unnecessary and tacky.

Quoting bond007 (Reply 24):
It's quite obvious what your intent is here, and it has nothing to do with the aircraft being exhibited anywhere!

Please!

+1. IIRC, a B737 crashed in swampy waters and it performed just fine. Both aircraft do their jobs perfectly (hello, they meet regulations)--they just do them differently. In both cases, it's a mater of the pilots skill. Simple as that. It's not like the Airbus suddenly told Sully "I got this, relax" and landed itself... and it's not like the Swamp 737 lost all flight computers and the pilot had to land completely manually.
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RE: A320 From US Air 1549 To Be Exhibited

Tue Mar 06, 2012 5:08 am

On Saturday, January 14, the day before the third anniversary of flight 1549, I was able to attend the event that the Carolinas Aviation Museum hosted. They had seven of the survivors of the flight show up and talk about the flight, as well as answer some questions. It was incredible to hear from them! The Air Traffic Controller who was in contact with the flight showed up during the event and came up to answer some questions during the Q&A session.

I got the chance to snap a few photos while I was there. Plateman posted some great pictures earlier in the thread. Since his photos were taken, they have added some Life Jackets to the exhibit under the right side of the aircraft...



Also, they placed the wings near the aircraft, and I believe they intend to re-attach them to the aircraft in the near future...



And finally, they removed the decals from the fuselage, of course they left the US Airways, Star Alliance, etc. decals. I believe the intent is to have the aircraft in the condition that it was in as it was removed from the Hudson.



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RE: A320 From US Air 1549 To Be Exhibited

Tue Mar 06, 2012 5:37 am

Quoting rscaife1682 (Reply 18):
I am not saying this would not have been possible in a 737 or any other aircraft for that matter. I am just stating that the pilot was assisted in the final descent of the aircraft



That's not a good thing. In fact it could have been a very bad thing had it happened a few seconds earlier.

Do you know why the plane was at such a high angle of attack to the point it almost stalled? because it had to pass over the George Washington Bridge and they had to trade Speed for maintaining altitude. Had the FBW made the plane descend earlier, the outcome would have been completely different. IIRC, they were only at 700ft when they passed over the bridge which is only 600ft tall.
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RE: A320 From US Air 1549 To Be Exhibited

Tue Mar 06, 2012 6:25 am

Quoting ghifty (Reply 25):
the Swamp 737 lost all flight computers and the pilot had to land completely manually.

That plane I believe landed on a marsh and still flies for a major air carrier today..
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RE: A320 From US Air 1549 To Be Exhibited

Tue Mar 06, 2012 7:35 am

Quoting garpd (Reply 1):
Airbus and AA got the attention they deserved fo AA587

What are you referring to? It was an Airbus A300 and wikipedia states that the accident was due to pilot error in response to wake turbulence.
 
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RE: A320 From US Air 1549 To Be Exhibited

Tue Mar 06, 2012 10:16 am

Quoting GBLKD (Reply 12):
Eh?
Quoting bond007 (Reply 24):
It's quite obvious what your intent is here, and it has nothing to do with the aircraft being exhibited anywhere!

Please!

At no point have I said that this outcome would not have been possible in another type of aircraft, in fact I have said the opposite. Neither have I belittled or said anything negative about the performance of the crew.

The whole point of this was to try and discover and discuss how they plan to demonstrate the role technology played in this accident. The fact you, and others want to turn this into a flame war only serve to demonstrate your personal prejudice. This is after all an enthusiast’s forum, so what the hell is wrong with showing enthusiasm for the performance of an aircraft?
 
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Tue Mar 06, 2012 10:24 am

Quoting AirPacific747 (Reply 29):

What are you referring to? It was an Airbus A300 and wikipedia states that the accident was due to pilot error in response to wake turbulence.

So Airbus were cleared of blame and AA got scalded for their pilot training. That's what I meant.
The OP appeared to intimate something much more negative.
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Tue Mar 06, 2012 10:31 am

Quoting garpd (Reply 31):
So Airbus were cleared of blame and AA got scalded for their pilot training. That's what I meant.
The OP appeared to intimate something much more negative.

Okay, I misunderstood you then. I thought you meant 'Airbus and AA got the attention they deserved fo AA587' in a negative way.
 
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Tue Mar 06, 2012 10:35 am

Quoting AirPacific747 (Reply 32):
Okay, I misunderstood you then. I thought you meant 'Airbus and AA got the attention they deserved fo AA587' in a negative way.

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Tue Mar 06, 2012 4:32 pm

Quoting Daysleeper (Reply 30):
The fact you, and others want to turn this into a flame war only serve to demonstrate your personal prejudice.

And what about those of us who

A. heavily prefer airbus products in many situations (e.g. all other factors being equal I will indeed book travel on any non-NK A32x over any 73g)

B. still found your post to be a bit "leading" in some ways.

I'm not seeing the prejudice angle there.
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RE: A320 From US Air 1549 To Be Exhibited

Tue Mar 06, 2012 6:00 pm

Quoting Chimborazo (Reply 16):
Yes: they should have fitted 2 new engines, replaced the windshield and pass window, re-stocked the damaged Sprite and Coke cans, attached floats to the gear and flown it out on the runway it landed on!

Sorry, couldn't help it, there was never a chance that would fly again. I was curious to learn the full extent of how much damage it had received (although I always imagined it would be a write-off) but those great pics show just how severe it was.

Are you serious? the Hudson River is a tidal river, it is very brackish water, if not almost pure ocean water where it landed and then partially sank. The entire aircraft would have had to have been completely disassembled to "restore it". New wiring, new systems, etc.
 
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RE: A320 From US Air 1549 To Be Exhibited

Wed Mar 07, 2012 9:42 pm

Quoting Chimborazo (Reply 16):
Yes: they should have fitted 2 new engines, replaced the windshield and pass window, re-stocked the damaged Sprite and Coke cans, attached floats to the gear and flown it out on the runway it landed on!
Quoting milesrich (Reply 35):
Are you serious?

I can't speak for Chimborazo but I am 99 percent sure he was being sarcastic.

Quoting Daysleeper (Reply 30):
The whole point of this was to try and discover and discuss how they plan to demonstrate the role technology played in this accident. The fact you, and others want to turn this into a flame war only serve to demonstrate your personal prejudice.

What did you expect to happen? You started a topic discussing something not everyone agrees with and chose one side. Doing so has great potential to create a debate.
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RE: A320 From US Air 1549 To Be Exhibited

Wed Mar 07, 2012 10:13 pm

I'd say the instant that airplane hit the Hudson (which is "known" for it's spic and span clean water ), it was about as likely to fly again, as hauling the Costa Concordia back upright, welding a patch on its side, and announcing it's back in service on the Mediterranean loop.