JosephJarvis
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LGW 2003 Arrival & Departure Times?

Sun Mar 11, 2012 10:02 pm

Hi everyone,

I wonder if anyone could provide me with the departure and arrival times of American Airlines, Continental Airlines,
Delta Air Lines, Garuda Indonesia, Northwest Airlines, US Airways and Virgin Atlantic flights at LGW during the summer of 2003 please?

Any feedback would be greatly appreciated,

Thanks.
 
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LGW 2003 Arrival & Departure Times?

Sun Mar 11, 2012 10:38 pm

Have you tried www.lhr-lgw.co.uk
 
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LGW 2003 Arrival & Departure Times?

Sun Mar 11, 2012 10:46 pm

Quoting bennett123 (Reply 1):

I have tried this website, but it doesn't give scheduled departure and arrival times.

Regards,
 
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LGW 2003 Arrival & Departure Times?

Sun Mar 11, 2012 10:56 pm

No, but you could get a pretty good idea of the times.

Not ideal, but a good starting point.
 
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LGW 2003 Arrival & Departure Times?

Sun Mar 11, 2012 11:06 pm

Quoting bennett123 (Reply 3):

Thanks. The only thing is the times vary from one day to the next, sometimes significantly.

Am looking for scheduled times preferably.

Regards.
 
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LGW 2003 Arrival & Departure Times?

Mon Mar 12, 2012 12:14 am

Just Interested, but why do you need the times of all these flights?
(The views on this site are my own and no one elses)
 
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RE: LGW 2003 Arrival & Departure Times?

Mon Mar 12, 2012 7:05 am

[quote=lhr380,reply=5][/quote

Hi,

I have just found some old footage of Gatwick Airport filmed from the now closed Skyview on a VHS tape. It shows the South terminal occupied by many US carriers. It shows two separate occasions where I went to Gatwick in 2003, the first one shows a very busy South terminal with most gates occupied, but on the second one there doesn't appear to be many US Airlines left. I am just interested to know the times. Did the majority of the US carriers serving Gatwick leave in the morning?

Regards,
 
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RE: LGW 2003 Arrival & Departure Times?

Mon Mar 12, 2012 8:24 am

Yes almost all US airlines arrived and departed in the morning.

CO used to have an EWR flight which left around 15:00 that always parked at the gate closest to the skyview observatioon deck.

NW used to have a DTW which departed at around 14:30

AA had a DFW which departed around 14:00 too.

When DL had their short lived LGW-BOS service around 2001 that left mid to late afternoon.

Other than this they were all morning movements.

Sorry I dont have any detailed times.
 
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RE: LGW 2003 Arrival & Departure Times?

Mon Mar 12, 2012 1:13 pm

Quoting heebeegb (Reply 7):

Hi,

Thanks for your reply. Do you know what aircraft operated the 15:00 EWR CO service?

Regards,
 
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RE: LGW 2003 Arrival & Departure Times?

Mon Mar 12, 2012 4:49 pm

Used to be a DC10 (in 'my day' late ninties through to their retirement, then was a 764 near the end, I CO also sent the odd 762 on the service
 
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RE: LGW 2003 Arrival & Departure Times?

Wed Mar 14, 2012 12:58 pm

Has anyone got any of these airline timetables from 2003 atall?

Thanks.
 
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RE: LGW 2003 Arrival & Departure Times?

Wed Mar 14, 2012 11:43 pm

Right, here we go for Summer 2003:

AA134/135 STL-LGW-STL B763, arr 0700, dep 1345
AA173/174 RDU-LGW-RDU, B772, arr 0655, dep 1210
AA50/51 DFW-LGW-DFW, B772, arr 0800, dep 1025
AA78/79 DFW-LGW-DFW, B772, arr 1010, dep 1430
CO04/05, IAH-LGW-IAH, B772, arr 0955, dep 1200
CO18/19, EWR-LGW-EWR, B772, arr 0630, dep 1020
CO28/29, EWR-LGW-EWR, B772, arr 0830, dep 1245
CO34/35, IAH-LGW-IAH, B772, arr 0655, dep 0940
CO66/67, CLE-LGW-CLE, B752, arr 0745, dep 1155
DL12/11, ATL-LGW-ATL, B763, arr 0730, dep 0930
DL10/9, ATL-LGW-ATL, B763, arr 1105, dep 1305
DL58/58, ATL-LGW-ATL, B772, arr 0910, dep 1120
DL36/37, CVG-LGW-CVG, B772, arr 0805, dep 1010
NW31/32, DTW-LGW-DTW, DC10, arr 1005, dep 1350
NW43/44, MSP-LGW-MSP, DC10, arr 0900, dep 1210
US126/99, PHL-LGW-PHL, A330, arr 0915, dep 1215
US740/741, PIT-LGW-PIT, A330, arr 0555, dep 1155
US94/95, CLT-LGW-CLT, A330, arr 0915, dep 1235
US98/127, PHL-LGW-PHL, B762, arr 0555, dep 1040

CO Newark was definitely two flights per day in 2003 with no service at/around 1500. CO19 operated at 1500 in Summer 2002 on a 777 though and in Summer 2001 on a B767-400 also at that time. I don't have records back beyond 2001 to check when the last Conti DC10s left Gatwick but some time around 1999 rings a bell - long before Northwest ceased to terrify the local population (or anyone passing on a Gatwick Express train) with DC10 departures off 08R on a hot day.

DL Boston (DL60/61) lasted for less than one summer in 2001 with a 767-300 which used to arrive at 0545 and depart at 1310. Started on 2 June 2001 and inevitably ceased almost immediately after 9/11. Aircraft used to swap over with the 767 operating DL36/37 CVG-LGW-CVG every day in Gatwick.
 
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RE: LGW 2003 Arrival & Departure Times?

Thu Mar 15, 2012 6:49 am

Quoting ZuluTime (Reply 11):

Hi there,

This information is great, thank you. Just out of curiousity, did you find this information in airlines timetables from 2003?

Also do you know if these times were the same in winter 2003?

Regards,
 
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RE: LGW 2003 Arrival & Departure Times?

Sun Mar 18, 2012 9:28 pm

Hi,

Does anyone know Virgin Atlantic scheduled departure and arrival times at LGW in summer 2003?

Regards.
 
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RE: LGW 2003 Arrival & Departure Times?

Mon Mar 19, 2012 10:09 pm

Hi,

Here is the data. Apologies for the slightly rubbish presentation. Where there are more than one entry for a particular flight number the flight may have operated at different times on different days in the season or there is a clock change during the season.

Hope it helps!


GA,970,SIN,LGW,01:35,07:25,'744
GA,970,SIN,LGW,01:40,07:30,'744
GA,971,LGW,SIN,17:30,14:30,'744
VS,5,LGW,MIA,10:45,14:15,'744
VS,5,LGW,MIA,10:45,15:15,'744
VS,6,MIA,LGW,16:45,06:55,'744
VS,6,MIA,LGW,17:45,06:55,'744
VS,15,LGW,MCO,12:30,15:40,'744
VS,15,LGW,MCO,12:30,16:40,'744
VS,16,MCO,LGW,19:25,09:30,'744
VS,16,MCO,LGW,20:25,09:30,'744
VS,27,LGW,MCO,11:15,14:25,'744
VS,27,LGW,MCO,11:15,15:25,'744
VS,28,MCO,LGW,16:35,06:40,'744
VS,28,MCO,LGW,17:35,06:40,'744
VS,28,MCO,LGW,17:50,06:55,'744
VS,29,LGW,BGI,10:00,13:45,'744
VS,29,LGW,BGI,10:15,14:00,'744
VS,29,LGW,BGI,11:10,14:55,'744
VS,29,LGW,BGI,11:15,15:00,'744
VS,30,BGI,LGW,17:25,06:30,'744
VS,31,LGW,UVF,10:00,13:45,'744
VS,31,LGW,UVF,13:00,16:45,'744
VS,32,UVF,LGW,17:25,06:30,'744
VS,32,UVF,LGW,19:25,08:30,'744
VS,33,LGW,ANU,10:00,13:40,'744
VS,33,LGW,ANU,11:15,14:55,'744
VS,33,LGW,ANU,13:00,16:40,'744
VS,34,ANU,LGW,17:30,06:30,'744
VS,34,ANU,LGW,19:30,08:30,'744
VS,35,LGW,BGI,10:00,13:45,'744
VS,35,LGW,BGI,10:45,14:30,'744
VS,36,BGI,LGW,20:55,10:00,'744
VS,37,LGW,BGI,10:00,13:45,'744
VS,37,LGW,BGI,10:45,14:30,'744
VS,38,BGI,LGW,20:45,09:50,'744
VS,43,LGW,LAS,09:45,12:30,'744
VS,43,LGW,LAS,10:25,13:10,'744
VS,43,LGW,LAS,10:45,13:30,'744
VS,43,LGW,LAS,11:15,13:00,'744
VS,43,LGW,LAS,11:15,14:00,'744
VS,44,LAS,LGW,15:00,08:50,'744
VS,44,LAS,LGW,16:25,11:15,'744
VS,44,LAS,LGW,17:25,11:15,'744
VS,49,LGW,MCO,10:45,14:55,'744
VS,49,LGW,MCO,13:00,17:10,'744
VS,50,MCO,LGW,21:10,10:15,'744
VS,51,LGW,TAB,11:15,15:15,'744
VS,52,GND,LGW,17:10,06:30,'744
VS,52,TAB,LGW,20:45,10:10,'744
VS,623,LGW,PHC,09:55,17:05,'343
VS,623,LGW,PHC,11:00,18:10,'343
VS,624,PHC,LGW,22:30,05:40,'343
 
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RE: LGW 2003 Arrival & Departure Times?

Mon Mar 19, 2012 10:19 pm

Also, CO DC10 services ended in December 2000.
 
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RE: LGW 2003 Arrival & Departure Times?

Mon Mar 19, 2012 10:20 pm

That is, DC10 services at LGW!
 
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RE: LGW 2003 Arrival & Departure Times?

Sun Apr 01, 2012 6:53 pm

Quoting BAStar1 (Reply 14):

Thank you for your reply.

Where it has the time on the left, is this the time it
departed LGW and on the right side is the time it
arrived at its destination?

For example:

VS,15,LGW,MCO,12:30,16:40,'744

So VS15 departed LGW at 12:30 and arrived at
MCO at 16:40?

VS,16,MCO,LGW,19:25,09:30,'744

And VS16 departed MCO at 19:25 and arrived
back at LGW at 09:30?

Thanks,
 
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RE: LGW 2003 Arrival & Departure Times?

Sun Apr 01, 2012 7:53 pm

Quoting JosephJarvis (Reply 17):
Where it has the time on the left, is this the time it
departed LGW and on the right side is the time it
arrived at its destination?

For example:

VS,15,LGW,MCO,12:30,16:40,'744

So VS15 departed LGW at 12:30 and arrived at
MCO at 16:40?

VS,16,MCO,LGW,19:25,09:30,'744

And VS16 departed MCO at 19:25 and arrived
back at LGW at 09:30?

Yes thats right. Its about an 8hour flight to MCO less five hour time difference and you get a 4pm arrival.

Look at the VS website today and you will see that the VS15/16 and 27/28 to MCO ( and I am sure other places like BGI/UVF/ANU) operate pretty much the same times.
 
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RE: LGW 2003 Arrival & Departure Times?

Tue Apr 03, 2012 8:30 pm

Quoting willd (Reply 18):

Hi there,

Thank you for your reply.

The times for the MCO and BGI flights are much the same times now as they were back in 2003.

If correct, some of the ANU and UVF times are very different from today, as shown below:

VS,31,LGW,UVF,13:00,16:45,'744

VS,33,LGW,ANU,13:00,16:40,'744

Does this mean that flights VS031 and VS033 departed LGW at 13:00?, as VS031 and VS033 depart LGW at 09:35/09:40 these days and it would seem a massive difference in departure times?

Regards,
 
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RE: LGW 2003 Arrival & Departure Times?

Tue Apr 03, 2012 9:56 pm

The data should be correct - it comes from Schedules inet which is an OAG product and uses its historic timetable data as its source.
 
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RE: LGW 2003 Arrival & Departure Times?

Wed Apr 04, 2012 2:06 am

Quoting bennett123 (Reply 1):
Have you tried www.lhr-lgw.co.uk

This is a GREAT resource! I have been wanting to figure out which CO aircraft I was on in 2004 during my first overseas trip to LGW. I really want to thank the person who created this!
 
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RE: LGW 2003 Arrival & Departure Times?

Wed Apr 04, 2012 2:17 am

His email is on the site, Stephen Bowler from memory.....
 
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RE: LGW 2003 Arrival & Departure Times?

Wed Apr 04, 2012 5:37 pm

Quoting BAStar1 (Reply 20):

Hi there,

Do you know how I could get hold of some OAGs?

Regards,
 
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RE: LGW 2003 Arrival & Departure Times?

Wed Apr 04, 2012 5:57 pm

Quoting JosephJarvis (Reply 19):
Does this mean that flights VS031 and VS033 departed LGW at 13:00?, as VS031 and VS033 depart LGW at 09:35/09:40 these days and it would seem a massive difference in departure times?

Yes but MCO for sure is the same as it was all those years ago. For historic VS flight info go to www.v-flyer.com/forum and ask the guys nicely. Sure someone will have an old timetable they can dig out.
 
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RE: LGW 2003 Arrival & Departure Times?

Wed Apr 04, 2012 6:21 pm

Quoting willd (Reply 24):
Quoting JosephJarvis (Reply 19):
Does this mean that flights VS031 and VS033 departed LGW at 13:00?, as VS031 and VS033 depart LGW at 09:35/09:40 these days and it would seem a massive difference in departure times?

Yes but MCO for sure is the same as it was all those years ago. For historic VS flight info go to www.v-flyer.com/forum and ask the guys nicely. Sure someone will have an old timetable they can dig out.

I have 2 here:

Between 27 Oct 2002 and 29 Mar 2003 times were:

VS031
Depart LGW 10:30 Arrive UVF 15:15, but only operated at the weekends.

VS032
Depart UVF 18:25 Arrive LGW 06:30 the following morning.

VS033
Depart LGW 10:00 Arrive ANU 14:40 on Thursdays
Depart LGW 10:55 Arrive ANU 15:35 Saturdays

VS034
Depart ANU 18:30 Arrive LGW 06:30 the following day on both days.

26 Oct 2003 - 27 Mar 2004

VS031
Depart LGW 10:30 Arrive UVF 15:15 on Sundays
Depart LGW 11:00 Arrive UVF 15:45 on Fridays
Depart LGW 12:45 Arrive UVF 17:30 on Tuesdays, Flights commenced 2/12

VS032
Depart UVF 18:25 Arrive LGW 06:30 for the Friday and Sunday departure
Depart UVF 20:55 Arrive LGW 09:00 for the Tuesday departure

VS033
Depart LGW 10:55 Arrive ANU 15:35 on Wednesdays and Fridays
Depart LGW 11:40 Arrive ANU 16:20 on Saturdays

VS034
Depart ANU 18:30 Arrive LGW 06:30 for the Wednesday and Friday departure
Depart ANU 10:40 Arrive LGW 06:40 for the Saturday departure

Hope this helps!
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RE: LGW 2003 Arrival & Departure Times?

Wed Apr 04, 2012 9:06 pm

Quoting jwhite9185 (Reply 25):

Hi there,

This really helps me, thank you for that. Do you have the BGI times also?

Thanks.
 
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RE: LGW 2003 Arrival & Departure Times?

Thu Apr 05, 2012 6:43 pm

27/10/02 - 29/03/03

VS029 Dep LGW 10:00 Arr BGI 14:45 Mon, Fri, Sat, Sun
VS030 Dep BGI 18:25 Arr LGW 06:30 Mon, Fri, Sat, Sun

VS029 Dep LGW 11:15 Arr BGI 16:00 Thursdays from 4/12/02
VS030 As above

VS037 Dep LGW 10:00 Arr BGI 14:45 Tuesdays
VS038 Dep BGI 21:45 Arr LGW 09:30 Tuesdays

26/10/03 - 27/03/04

VS029 As above, but daily except Wed:

Wednesdays:
VS029 Dep LGW 10:45 Arr BGI15:30

VS030 As above, daily.

VS037/038 as above until 25/11/03, then cancelled.
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RE: LGW 2003 Arrival & Departure Times?

Fri Apr 06, 2012 7:40 pm

Quoting jwhite9185 (Reply 27):

Hi,

Have you got VS times between 30th March 2003 and 25th October 2003?

Regards,
 
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RE: LGW 2003 Arrival & Departure Times?

Fri Apr 06, 2012 11:10 pm

Joseph are you writing a history of Gatwick?

There used to be a book called Airport Timetables UK that listed all of this.
 
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RE: LGW 2003 Arrival & Departure Times?

Sat Apr 07, 2012 12:01 am

Quoting skipness1E (Reply 29):

Hi,

Thank you for your reply. I am indeed writing a history of Gatwick Airport.

Do you know where I could get hold of this book?

Regards.
 
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RE: LGW 2003 Arrival & Departure Times?

Sat Apr 07, 2012 12:08 am

I have summer 1990 to winter 2001 in storage back home in Scotland, however there must be someone online who could lend you some copies. It was a bible in pre internet planning....

Good luck with the project! I was at LGW today, what an improvement on recent years!

[Edited 2012-04-06 17:09:36]
 
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RE: LGW 2003 Arrival & Departure Times?

Sat Apr 07, 2012 1:58 am

Quoting skipness1E (Reply 31):

Hi,

I see, thank you. Do you know if you will be able to retrieve the ones from 1999 until winter 2001 from your home back in Scotland?

Regards.
 
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RE: LGW 2003 Arrival & Departure Times?

Sat Apr 07, 2012 10:24 am

Quoting JosephJarvis (Reply 28):
Hi,

Have you got VS times between 30th March 2003 and 25th October 2003?

Regards,

I don't I'm afraid.
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RE: LGW 2003 Arrival & Departure Times?

Sat Apr 07, 2012 10:47 am

Quoting jwhite9185 (Reply 33):

Ok not to worry. Have you any from the years 2000 and 2001?

Also how do you get hold of these?

Regards.
 
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RE: LGW 2003 Arrival & Departure Times?

Sun Apr 08, 2012 10:52 am

I've got 31/10/99 - 25/3/00 and 31/3/02-26/10/02 as well as the 2 I've previously mentioned. They are VS timetables that I picked up in the VS clubhouse at the time. Ive seen them pop up on eBay from time to time.
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RE: LGW 2003 Arrival & Departure Times?

Sun Apr 08, 2012 6:53 pm

Quoting jwhite9185 (Reply 35):

Hi,

Would it be ok to send me a copy of all 4 of your VS timetables please?

I would greatly appreciate this if you could.

Regards,
 
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RE: LGW 2003 Arrival & Departure Times?

Sat Apr 14, 2012 7:40 pm

Was the Garuda Indonesia LGW-BKK-DPS route still operating in summer 2003?

Regards,
 
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RE: LGW 2003 Arrival & Departure Times?

Sun Apr 15, 2012 9:20 am

The Garuda flight at LGW definitely operated in 2002, as for 2003, I am not sure I am afraid but I don't think so, could be wrong though.
 
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RE: LGW 2003 Arrival & Departure Times?

Mon Apr 16, 2012 9:07 am

Preliminary schedules for Summer 2003 showed:

GA970 arrived LGW on days 1/3/6 from DPS via SIN, B747-400 at 08:20
GA971 departed LGW on days 1/3/6 to DPS via SIN, B747-400 at 12:30

However, the CAA passenger statistics show that passenger numbers between Gatwick and Bali dropped in March 2003 and then dropped to zero for every month after that, which suggests that the service stopped in early March and did not operate in line with the above.
 
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RE: LGW 2003 Arrival & Departure Times?

Tue Apr 17, 2012 10:00 pm

Quoting heebeegb (Reply 38):

Do you know the departure and arrival times of these flights at LGW in 2002?